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Just started getting "storage memory is critically low&

Hope somebody can give me a quick answer to this one.
I got up this morning to find that my MDA Pro is now reporting the "storage memory is critically low" error. Previous to this I'm *sure* it had at least 5Mb available. I've not installed anything (for weeks) so really can't understand it. What it has done in the meantime is synced my mail but all attachments are due to be soted on teh stoage card (but when checking the mail account settings there are currently 0k of attachments being stored).
I have soft-reset the device with no change in the storage space.
What I'd like to find is a utility that will tell me folder sizes so I can see what is being taken up where .... can't seem to find anything as yet that is free.
Any suggestions for software or any suggestions full stop?

Re: Just started getting "storage memory is critically
blueivy said:
Hope somebody can give me a quick answer to this one.
I got up this morning to find that my MDA Pro is now reporting the "storage memory is critically low" error. Previous to this I'm *sure* it had at least 5Mb available. I've not installed anything (for weeks) so really can't understand it. What it has done in the meantime is synced my mail but all attachments are due to be soted on teh stoage card (but when checking the mail account settings there are currently 0k of attachments being stored).
I have soft-reset the device with no change in the storage space.
What I'd like to find is a utility that will tell me folder sizes so I can see what is being taken up where .... can't seem to find anything as yet that is free.
Any suggestions for software or any suggestions full stop?
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...how about:
clearing the IE cache (cookies/history/files)
going through inbox/sent/deleted and emptying those folders from email/outlook/texts/mms
check my documents in particular my pictures/videos/music for anything you dont want.
other than that perhaps re-evaluate whats in your main memory and move to storage card. I think as a rule only programs that require today plugins or alter system activities (like notifications etc) need to be installed in main memory. For example in my main memory I have only installed: apreminder+, avantgo, check notifications, phonealarm, ps shutxp, smallmenuplus, spb weather, total commander.
......check notifications and total commander(TC) could go on storage card but i generally leave TC open. With all that installed and my 3MB avantgo account maxed out I still have about 22mb of storage memory free.
hope this helps.
matt

The application that you're looking for is WIMR (Where Is My RAM).
Extremely useful in these cases!

My G/F had this recently, we found a sound file that was 31Mb in size, she must have accidentally hit the sound recorder button and left it running. check for dodgy files on your device.

How much internal phone storage do you have free? Only 166 here.

I just got my N1 today. I've installed a few apps: Amazon, Goggles, Layar, Tmobile My Account, Places Directory, Seesmic, Shazam, Speed Test, StreamFurious.
When I check my internal storage, (Home -> Settings -> SD card & Phone Storage -> Internal phone storage / Available space). I only have 166mb free! I've barely installed anything and 70% of my 512 is used up. What gives?
How about you guys?

I guess the Android ROM simply grew in size. Keep in mind though that Google confirmed at the press conference that a later update to Android will enable you to install apps on the SD-card.

your android OS is stored on the phone storage as well. dont worry thats MORE than enough space. most apps are under a megabyte, heck a good number are under 500KB!
also google has confirmed in the future apps will be stored on SD.

waffle2 said:
I just got my N1 today. I've installed a few apps: Amazon, Goggles, Layar, Tmobile My Account, Places Directory, Seesmic, Shazam, Speed Test, StreamFurious.
When I check my internal storage, (Home -> Settings -> SD card & Phone Storage -> Internal phone storage / Available space). I only have 166mb free! I've barely installed anything and 70% of my 512 is used up. What gives?
How about you guys?
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The full 512 mb's isn't just for app storage. When I started I had 191MB'S available.

can anybody adb shell df?

Settings shows 147 free, which is also indicated by /data below.
df
/dev: 108720K total, 0K used, 108720K available (block size 4096)
/sqlite_stmt_journals: 4096K total, 0K used, 4096K available (block size 4096)
/system: 148480K total, 118636K used, 29844K available (block size 4096)
/data: 200960K total, 53188K used, 147772K available (block size 4096)
/cache: 97280K total, 1796K used, 95484K available (block size 4096)
/sdcard: 7814208K total, 25572K used, 7788636K available (block size 4096)

Mi|enko said:
Settings shows 147 free, which is also indicated by /data below.
df
/dev: 108720K total, 0K used, 108720K available (block size 4096)
/sqlite_stmt_journals: 4096K total, 0K used, 4096K available (block size 4096)
/system: 148480K total, 118636K used, 29844K available (block size 4096)
/data: 200960K total, 53188K used, 147772K available (block size 4096)
/cache: 97280K total, 1796K used, 95484K available (block size 4096)
/sdcard: 7814208K total, 25572K used, 7788636K available (block size 4096)
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I wonder where the missing 75MB went. About 5 MB is recovery, 2-3 MB is boot, radio is about 15 MB and spl/ipl are both about 400k combined, that's still about 40 MB missing (well, I guess by 512 MB they actually mean 512,000 B, kB, not 524,288 like it should be, so more like 25 MB missing)

Sorry to bump this thread. I've had my phone for just a month and today I got a notification telling me my internal phone storage was full. I freed some space by clearing history, cache, and that stuff in the browser. My 'available space' in settings is now about 60 mb.
Is this normal? I dont have that many apps (exactly 25 apps from the market) , and certainly not games. Now that the browser (which was using 32 mb) is fixed, except for google earth, flash palyer and maps, most of them are just below 30 mb.
Is there something wrong? I had an htc magic for a year and this NEVER happened.

Bumping 1/2-year-old thread instead of reading detailed specs and realizing that Nexus has 190MB data storage would definitely seem wrong to some people, myself included.
Use "Move to SD card" option on all your apps that allow it, or root and install custom ROMs that allow using old-school Apps2SD.
And I have more than 200 apps.

29,86 MB free.
144 Apps installed and 34 of them saved to SD Card (FroYo Apps2SD)

Jack_R1 said:
Bumping 1/2-year-old thread instead of reading detailed specs and realizing that Nexus has 190MB data storage would definitely seem wrong to some people, myself included.
Use "Move to SD card" option on all your apps that allow it, or root and install custom ROMs that allow using old-school Apps2SD.
And I have more than 200 apps.
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I am aware the phone has the 190 mb limitation. Still can't believe I get an 'phone memory full' notification after a month with only 25 apps installed (with only 6 of them, at most, over 5 mb). I used an htc magic for a year, installed way more apps, and never had this problem.
The poster above me has over 100 apps installed on the phone memory and still 30 mb free. I have 25, literally, and have had the phone for a month.
So excuse me for believing something is awfully wrong. My post is not "omg, why does my new phone not have around 512 mb free?". My question is why is my phone's memory full after a month, and why can people have 4 times the amount of apps I have without this problem
PS: none of the apps I have allow for the Move to SD option yet.

Try clearing the browser/Facebook/text message/etc data
Sent from my Nexus One

Again, as other said, you need App2sd or ModIstallLocation from the market to force SD installation or if you search you will find all of them there on the forum (You will also need to be rooted).
If you put everything except apps with widget on your SD and are a little carefull with what you download + clean various caches from time to time (or put cache on SD which is also possible) then you will manage to put a lot enough and still remain over 30mb available.
My case I have 110 apps and 41mb available.

jcar87 said:
I am aware the phone has the 190 mb limitation. Still can't believe I get an 'phone memory full' notification after a month with only 25 apps installed (with only 6 of them, at most, over 5 mb). I used an htc magic for a year, installed way more apps, and never had this problem.
The poster above me has over 100 apps installed on the phone memory and still 30 mb free. I have 25, literally, and have had the phone for a month.
So excuse me for believing something is awfully wrong. My post is not "omg, why does my new phone not have around 512 mb free?". My question is why is my phone's memory full after a month, and why can people have 4 times the amount of apps I have without this problem
PS: none of the apps I have allow for the Move to SD option yet.
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Yep, it's probably browser cache, I've seen it go as high as 12M and in reality it takes much more than that (lots of small files, larger block sizes). I've cleared 6M of cache and gotten back 11M of ram in the browser.
Sort your applications by size, what do you come up with? The cache they contain IS listed with them.

you can make ext3 partition & use app2sd than & force app to instal on ext3 partition
I have big game ,without games I can sure rich 140
I`m now et 82apps

[REQ][MOD] SMS app drops msgs on 'low memory'

It seems as if there's some code in the SMS-receiving app that says 'if the phone is reporting low memory, fire a 'warning' notification and completely forget the message I just got sent'. We do not get to see who sent the message, and the sender is not sent a 'message failed' response.
As we know the phone reports 'low memory' a bit cautiously, you could actually have 10mb spare - plenty for an SMS. It's possible for the phone to reach a 'low memory' status whilst in your pocket, so the user doesn't know he's going to miss txts until one comes in.
Could really do with a mod to do something about this - still show the warning but accept the text as normal rather than dropping it?
This would go wrong if there actually isn't enough space to store the message (<1k?), but if the warning fires on every text then at least the user has had a chance to do something about it.

mamoulian666 said:
It seems as if there's some code in the SMS-receiving app that says 'if the phone is reporting low memory, fire a 'warning' notification and completely forget the message I just got sent'. We do not get to see who sent the message, and the sender is not sent a 'message failed' response.
As we know the phone reports 'low memory' a bit cautiously, you could actually have 10mb spare - plenty for an SMS. It's possible for the phone to reach a 'low memory' status whilst in your pocket, so the user doesn't know he's going to miss txts until one comes in.
Could really do with a mod to do something about this - still show the warning but accept the text as normal rather than dropping it?
This would go wrong if there actually isn't enough space to store the message (<1k?), but if the warning fires on every text then at least the user has had a chance to do something about it.
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Can the Nexus One actually run out of memory to receive a mere SMS? :/ Has this ever happened to you before or is this just a hypothetical question/request?

I don't think he would talk so specifically about it in detail if he was just making it up. I've lost an sms before too.
I was under the warning limit, but between 10mb and 20mb free, and my phone decided to tell me there wasn't enough room on the phone when an sms came in and that's that. No indication as to whom it was from, and definitely no way to get it again.

Yeap, it definitely does this. I've had it happen a few times and very annoying it is too. The message never gets received but shows as delivered at the other end.

Yes it has happened to me several times since having the N1, and just a few days ago on 2.2. Sometimes it's been 'my fault' because I've ignored the 'low on memory' notification, sometimes it's been the first I've heard of it - by then it's too late.
Either way, just dropping the message like that is not good :-/
Oh, and no, I don't think I've ever *actually* run out of memory, I've seen that 'low memory' warning appear but still have just under 10mb free.
So I think the SMS-receiving-code is being overly cautious/strict.

+1 for some workaround for this situation, when I went from cyan ext3 to froyo stock and trying fit everything on I did lose a few texts, which I had no idea where they were from.

what is the low memory warning? Can this phone actually run out of memory?

legion21 said:
what is the low memory warning? Can this phone actually run out of memory?
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Low internal storage space. The SMS's are not saved in ram you know? Install too many applications and you run out of internal storage space.

So can we clarify if this is low MEMORY or low STORAGE being as the two are completely different?
I've had missing messages so this may explain it?

It is when you have low STORAGE. Internal storage to be precise. Would be nice if you could have SMS going to mem-card. But yes, I have had the same issue in the past. And there is no way to retrieve the 'delivered' message that I know of. Very annoying.

Yes, low storage.
Install a load of stuff... Google Earth and Fennec beta should do it, and you'll get the warning. But it's a bit over-sensitive, you could still have 10mb or so left.
There's an issue for this on the official tracker:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4991
doesn't look like it'll be looked at in a hurry though as there's not very many stars... so I hope a mod might be possible until G gets around to it?
(if you want to register your interest in the issue just star it, no need to comment with a 'me too' unless you're adding some info)
Edit: please keep 'store messages on SD card' to another thread... that is a big job, and it's not like we would actually have problems storing one 250-character message when we've got 10mb of space. The fix is for it to ignore that warning.

IDEA, install a program that when internal mem is detected as below the threshold where the system will rej, and overwride the default messaging and take hold of the message itself (and presumably SD it)

a very irratating bug indeed.. i have missed countless sms cause i have tonz of apps installed on an unrooted fone; leading to low internal storage RAM and thus getting this error... FROYO isnt much of a help with the option to put apps to SD since the apps have to integrate that feature and 95% of apps currently in the marked dont have that feature YET.. even GOOGLE Earth (25mb <- WAAA so big!!!) ..

I've added a comment to the bug. I would suggest everyone else does if you want this bug fixed officially, otherwise talk nicely to a dev on this forum

thelucster said:
I've added a comment to the bug. I would suggest everyone else does if you want this bug fixed officially, otherwise talk nicely to a dev on this forum
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No, don't add a COMMENT, just add a STAR. 'Me too' comments get emailed to everyone and are annoying. STARs register interest. Thanks!
So is it possible to fix this with a mod? Is it even in the SMS app or is it some other code that handles receiving the message?

try this post for altering your low space threshold:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877793

I have had this happen to me too.
The most infuriating part of the matter is that the phone rejects the message, but the message is GONE forever. You have no idea who sent it, and they have no idea you never got the message. On top of that, there is still nearly 20mb of space left. WTF the phone needs to reject a 1kb sms when there is 20mb of space left completely blows my mind.
It is a terrible glitch and one of the few things I severely dislike about android.
One option could be an app for when the phone hits low storage, to put the phone in air plane mode?
This would prevent ANY sms from being rejected until you delete space, and take the phone out of air plane mode.

Once you get up to the limit on apps no matter where the low storage limit is set you always run the risk of running into it. It would be better to simply put all the data on sd, there would be no performance hit and the problem is permafixed. As an added advantage all your texts are backed up locally and with just a little more coding could be set up to be restored as needed when the app was reinstalled on the same or new device.

GldRush98 said:
I have had this happen to me too.
The most infuriating part of the matter is that the phone rejects the message, but the message is GONE forever. You have no idea who sent it, and they have no idea you never got the message. On top of that, there is still nearly 20mb of space left. WTF the phone needs to reject a 1kb sms when there is 20mb of space left completely blows my mind.
It is a terrible glitch and one of the few things I severely dislike about android.
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It is not that simple. AFAIK sms/mms are stored in the sqlite database. Which needs some maneuver space to operate normally. In fact, android SQLiteOpenHelper under certain threshold will open the database only in the readonly mode. Which seems to be happening here.
The pragmatic solution would be to "tweak" the free space display and show the real size minus some 30mb "reserve". So, the user would see "0 bytes left" and would not complain. Better still - stop receiving messages and signal "memory full" to the Short Message Service Center. Adding nagging notifications to the user. Seems like unfinished work by google.

krabman said:
Once you get up to the limit on apps no matter where the low storage limit is set you always run the risk of running into it. It would be better to simply put all the data on sd, there would be no performance hit and the problem is permafixed. As an added advantage all your texts are backed up locally and with just a little more coding could be set up to be restored as needed when the app was reinstalled on the same or new device.
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The SD way would be a straight road to hell, since all the data can "disappear" from under your arse at any random moment.
It's enough just to plug-in the USB cable or simply pop-out the card (easily doable on many models).
Even worse: someone can easily delete anything on the card since it is a stupid FAT32 with no permissions whatsoever. O just insert different SD card from the different phone. It is far from trivial to define what should the apps do in this case.

Phone is low on space

I have 1.84gb on the sdcard and 9.17gb internal and 191mb application space. No way am i even close to running out of space.
I have one of the earlier versions of Lag Fix installed, and im also rooted. can anyone help?

What makes you think you are "running out of space"? Are you getting an error message of some sort?

Yes i am. It wont let me install anyting and its not syncing gmail and im not getting text messeges.

Just FYI alot of times questions can be answered if you use the search button.
i just asnwered this question in the Q&A forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=747
And that was answered in a previous thread by me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752471&highlight=Database+Storage+Low&page=2
After deleting the bloated Contacts i haven't gotten the error (i was sure to export the list from Google prior to deleting it) Also removing the Facebook Apps ability to sync and only leaving stock brought back the Contacts facebook updates.
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thank you, however its not saying anything about the database, instead its saying "internal Phone storage is getting low". Not database.

Oskiee said:
thank you, however its not saying anything about the database, instead its saying "internal Phone storage is getting low". Not database.
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Can you use ADB or ShootMe to take screen shots of the error message then?

i dont have nither installed, so no. it wont let me install anything. It says "Internal phone storage is getting low".

Lol! I am getting the same message about space getting low. It says "Internal phone storage is getting low. "
I also have lag fix applied and guess how much app space I have remaining?
That's right, 191MB.
It is clearly referring to app space and not SD storage.
Not sure what to do.
sent from my Vibrant.

Don't some of the lag fixes cause this?

Don't use such a large container for the loopback filesystem. The phone will show that message when that partition drops to about 300mb free iirc. The versions that used 1gb seem to avoid this issue, it's when they tried to go to 1.5gb or so that it started up.
Or use a partition on the external sd and don't have the problem.
There's also the new voodoo lag fix that should be out soon, we hope. That will fix it properly and remove the busted rfs file system entirely.

This happen to me when installing a lag fix, back your files then enter.recovery delete all personal data after restore your apps but dont install the lag fix.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

[Q] False "Storage space running out" notification

I'm not rooted, completely stock 4.1.1.
I have a persistent "Storage space running out, some system functions may not work" notification, even though the storage settings page (pics 1-2) says I have plenty of space in both my internal storage and SD card. When I go to the manage apps page (3rd pic), though, it gives a different story, which is weird. I also can't download or update apps.
I did some searching and apparently this problem has happened to other people on other phones, particularly samsungs it seems like.
One person suggested using the DiskUsage app to find out what's taking up space. I tried to download it, and it said I had insufficient storage available, even though it's a 155 kb application. I deleted Skype, which is ~24 MB, and I still couldn't download the app because of "insufficient storage." Restarting the phone did nothing.
It seems like this has been happening on and off for a while, but I don't think I've tried to install any new apps recently and I've just ignored the failed updates. I can't remember exactly when it started, or anything I might have done differently around that time.
Any ideas?

That can happen when there's junk in your cache partition as well.. like rogue .apk's. I'd try to clean your cache partition first.

So I hooked it up to my computer and manually went through folders to find out where the space was being taken up. Turns out it was my podcast app (Acast). There was a gig or so of podcasts saved on the internal storage that didn't show up as being related to apps or anything.