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Why Apps2SD is such a BAD IDEA (tm)

This is in the Wiki, but thought I'd repost it here for all those who ask the same silly questions.
What Apps2SD does is shift all of your user applications (that would normally be installed on your phone's /data partition) and moves them onto a specially formatted ext2/ext3 partition on your SD card. This gives you the ability to install more apps than you would normally have the ability to. Sounds great huh? What's so wrong with that?
On the G1/Dream/ADP this app is a must - those phones have only a 256MB flash and only have 75MB for their data partition - it's
outrageous. Apps2SD/Cache2SD are great as they offload it the stuff to the SD card and reduce the limitation.
The HTC Magic (both 32A or 32B) and Hero are the next generation of Android devices though, and these phones have twice the flash of the previous generation (512MB). A large chunk of that (300MB) went to the /data partition, so installing apps isn't an issue.
There's also a number of real disadvantages to using http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Apps2SD&action=createApps2SD:
It will probably slow your apps down as it's thrashing the sd more - even if you have a class 6
you'll reduce the life of your sd card
you won't be able to remove your SD card/mount it on your pc if you wanted to without your phone crashing/apps dying/hanging/etc.
if your SD card is dodgy in the slightest then it will also cause the above.. crashing/hanging/random coredumps, etc - and you'll probably just blame the rom you're using rather than realising it's your SD card.
In the same vein, CompCache/Swap space/Swapper, et al are just as silly if you're a 32A/Hero owner.
Even on the G1/32B's it offers very dubious performance improvement - and there's no need with the 32A/Hero as you have plenty of ram. If you do install it you have all the same negative points I just listed above apply there too as they each use your SD card in much the same way.

Very old.
That post is quite outdated. The information there is relevant and fluid; however, whoever still follows that thread as being something to "take heed" to prior to allowing transfer of their APPS, CACHE, and DATA to the SD card they use...is entirely too broke to even own an Android-based platform.
SD cards nowadays; even the more efficient ones typically cost less than $30, including high-end retailers such as Best Buy and Fry's Electronics.
Who even worries about that crap anymore? That's such nonsense if you ask me. The fact is:
- Even if you could prove with some form of an exact science that utilizing those abilities and storing various amounts of data on your SD card was remotely harmful and could "wear down" (thus lessening the lifespan of the card) it would show that these results would be inconclusive until about a FULL YEAR had gone by.
Run-on sentence. I'm aware. But I had a point to make.

I just finished trying out app2sd in my magic for a few days and everything ran noticibly slower. I also disliked the notion of taking apps offline while copying via usb. I think this article raises valid points. *If* you aren't running out of room, then just leave it. You gain absolutely nothing.
DT

Hahahaha! I was reading for hours and hours of confusing tricks as how to do app2sd and whatever. Now comes a totally destroying tale!
I think ita worth it for a learning session to experiment.
My experience with previous sevaral Symbian phones, as most of them allowed applications to be installed on sd cards and nothing ever went wrong.Fring, Nimbuzz,Maps etc were on almost all times .Especvially Fring or Nimnuzz.
I like mu HTC Magic and put Enom's latest Tmobile ROM.It is fast and stable.Why couldny Android writers gave us the choice in first place- to select you appliocation to install in phone or storage memory like Symbian or WM? Is it something they forgot? Can it be included in future major updates?

It's not a concern of mine.
To put my response earlier quite simply:
I have 4-5 microSDHC cards laying around. All of which are Class 6. I'm not really concerned about "killing" an SD card sooner than it expected. It's an SD card for Christ sake.

Radix999 said:
[*]you'll reduce the life of your sd card
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I don't think it's a big deal because nowadays most flash memory come with lifetime or at least 5 years warranty. And by the time my 16GB microsd dies, I probably can buy another one for less than 10 bucks.

tengtengvn said:
I don't think it's a big deal because nowadays most flash memory come with lifetime or at least 5 years warranty. And by the time my 16GB microsd dies, I probably can buy another one for less than 10 bucks.
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Pretty sure the cost of the card is the last thing to worry about. What if you have pics, docs, video that you haven't backed up for some reason and it takes all your info with it. Besides are people actually installing that many apps? I can't see needing or using more than what the phone can store.
Clinton

Money ain't nothing but paper.
Yessssir.
I could make it rain.
SD cards are so cheap. What's $20 to most people...nothing! Enough said. Thread closed. Lol.

While the cost of a micro SD card is neglible, the damage to your phone when you lose all your apps, preferences, settings and get random hangs, errors, slowdowns while the SD card dies IS an issue.
And who cares if you have a dozen or even hundreds of microsd cards - once you've configured Apps2SD then you're prettymuch stuck with the one you have - try and remove it and be prepared for a screwed up phone.
All this hassle for such little benefit!

Wow.
Radix999 said:
While the cost of a micro SD card is neglible, the damage to your phone when you lose all your apps, preferences, settings and get random hangs, errors, slowdowns while the SD card dies IS an issue.
And who cares if you have a dozen or even hundreds of microsd cards - once you've configured Apps2SD then you're prettymuch stuck with the one you have - try and remove it and be prepared for a screwed up phone.
All this hassle for such little benefit!
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Bro, common sense...
BACK YOUR **** UP AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.
Problem averted. I'm a busy guy, but find plenty of time to periodically, whether it's bi-weekly, etc. to back everything up.
We're gravy.

Radix999 said:
2. you'll reduce the life of your sd card
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As was said, I doubt it will really matter.
And if it does... I prefer to down my SD card, which I can replace (and normally, not all recorded data vanish suddenly if it wears down ! you should only see total memory decreasing, and maybe loosing "some" data)...
....instead of my phone internal memory which I won't be able to replace at all !
I have a magic so for now I can live without apps2SD, though even now I am forced to make choices to get some free space.

Here are some of the issues I had running Apps2SD on my G1:
Backup for root users wouldn't backup apps that were on the SDcard.
If I unmounted or removed the card even with the phone off, many apps would disappear or become corrupt.
Sometimes things would go wrong and the only fix was to reformat and partition the SD card. I had big problems when I was testing Hero roms. I used two different cards and they both had similar issues even though they checked out fine.
Here is why I love Apps2SD:
There are so many great apps for Android and the memory limitations of the G1 would have kept me from being able to give dazzling demos.
Just getting it set up before all the tutorials were available taught me plenty about rooting around the Android guts.
It was really cool to be able to say "oh, you're out of memory? I've got 72MB free with 80 apps installed, but it's no big deal."
I say go ahead and try it out, but be prepared for the worst. I don't remember if Nandroid backups got the apps from the SDcard. I got a Magic PVT 32a with 288MB and never looked back.
Enjoy!

Bwhaha!
I don't back my computer up very often? Hard Drive....What Hard Drive? BIOS is all I got.... Pretty funny!

I don't think anyone is arguing against backups, and I agree the sd destruction argument is somewhat dubious, but that doesn't change the others! The point was: absolutely if you're running a 32b mboard apps2sd is worth a look, but as a magic user, I'm telling you I've tried it and went back after 2 days. The earler post about it being worth it as an experiment might well be true, but I wish I had read that article first!
DT

hi Radix999!
Thank you for porting 32a. My question is, how do i disable App2SD?
I'm using linux so i don't have problem with partions, my problem is to unmount /data/app folder.
Also, will nandroid backup /data folder as well?
Regards

if interested to disable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5246028

Reignzone said:
Yessssir.
I could make it rain.
SD cards are so cheap. What's $20 to most people...nothing! Enough said. Thread closed. Lol.
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The cheap cost of replacing flash memory won't make the other points go away... and you still have the risk of losing your data. Throw all your money at your phone and you still can't mount your SD card without crashing some apps... all that paper ain't gonna make your apps run faster on Apps2SD than it does on system memory
To begin with, if you got all that dough, why don't you go get a 32A? Or better yet, go grab one of the shiny new phones running Snapdragon, no need for Apps2SD there

the biggest advantage from app2sd for me is not the fact that I can save phone memory even though I have like 80 games and 40 apps installed; but it's because it will save me a lot of time re-installing each and every single app and game between roms testing.
and the biggest disadvantage from app2sd is that your phone depends on that tiny little plastic too much. it wont even turn on without that piece of plastic; and thats very weird cuz i thought app2sd only move other apps (not system apps cuz your system apps are still in /system/app) to your sd card which means system apps should still be able to start your phone without the microsd. But I guess I was wrong cuz my phone wouldn't turn on wihout the sd card installed.
jus my $.02

APP2SD how?
How do you do apps 2 sd? i want to try it out. can some one help or point me to a different forum?
-rooted mt3g 32b

I think the whole life reduction theory is pure b.s whats the difference between you using your micro sd card on the daily bases to transfer data from a computer or having it transfer data in your phone via apps2sd? None at all they use the same transfer mechanism correct?.I have a G1 and a behold 2 been using the same 4GB micro sd card for over 2 years in my G1 I even swapped it and now I use it in my behold 2 (without formatting and without loosing my apps) and have yet to endure any problems/lag slow downs maybe the people who complain simply have no knowledge of the device.both of my phones are rooted with swap partitions and custom firmware and are 2/3 faster than what they were when they came stock.With that being said it will not slow your experience down if you know what you are doing.And you can remove your SDcard without damaging your device you just have to take the BATTERY out before you take the SDCARD out.I do this on the daily bases depending on which phone I prefer to use and theirs no evidence to support the reduction in life for the microsd cards atleast not on any of my devices.

Should i "downgrade" or keep my MT3g

Basic question, i know the specs are far from close, but when you root + ram hack on a G1, will there be much of a performane difference between a Rooted G1 vs a Rooted MT3g?
Questioning becasue i have the option to trade my rooted mt3g for a unlocked/rooted G1. I just hate not having a keyboard
What do you guys think?
Am i making a bad move to downgrade? Or not much of a difference/

The tmobile-branded HTC MAGIC is the 32B version, 192RAM, 512NAND. All HTC DREAM are 192RAM,256NAND. So the ram itself is the same, you just end up with less internal storage.
Just note a couple of things;
1) If you use apps-to-sd, then the internal storage is moot.
2) If you have root, there are no OTA updates, so the 65 MB /cache partition is freed up for other uses.
Personally, I would NEVER switch from this phone to *anything* that lacked a physical keyboard. And that includes a GN1.

lbcoder said:
The tmobile-branded HTC MAGIC is the 32B version, 192RAM, 512NAND. All HTC DREAM are 192RAM,256NAND. So the ram itself is the same, you just end up with less internal storage.
Just note a couple of things;
1) If you use apps-to-sd, then the internal storage is moot.
2) If you have root, there are no OTA updates, so the 65 MB /cache partition is freed up for other uses.
Personally, I would NEVER switch from this phone to *anything* that lacked a physical keyboard. And that includes a GN1.
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so essentially i would have the same phone with a keyboard when rooted...is the cpu the same ? the 528mhz or whatnot?

jdedeaux said:
so essentially i would have the same phone with a keyboard when rooted...is the cpu the same ? the 528mhz or whatnot?
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1)Same CPU speed
yes
2)Same amount of Ram
yes
3)Same amount of ROM/Internal storage
No, this means that larger Roms will not fit on your Dream and you will have to use Apps2SD which makes a rom slower because of the links needed.Swap will also be used but not used on the Magic.It's up to you if any of this matters to you or not.

Ace42 said:
3)Same amount of ROM/Internal storage
No, this means that larger Roms will not fit on your Dream and you will have to use Apps2SD which makes a rom slower because of the links needed.Swap will also be used but not used on the Magic.It's up to you if any of this matters to you or not.
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Incorrect, on all counts.
Larger roms fit just fine as long as you aren't a complete moron about it.
Apps2SD is ***FASTER*** than keeping everything internal. The reason is that you have INCREASED BANDWIDTH!
Just because you are running an app does NOT mean that it is the ONLY thing drawing data from some storage device.
Each piece of hardware has certain bandwidth limits. If you are running a program from the sdcard, then more of the internal storage device's bandwidth is available for other things, thus net speedup!
Symlinks have ZERO effect on performance.
As for swap... wow. Totally WRONG.
The devices have the SAME AMOUNT OF RAM and therefore the SAME requirements for using extra RAM.
If you DECIDE to use swap on one, then since the other has EXACTLY THE SAME amount of RAM, you would also choose to use swap on THE OTHER.
Note: SWAP is SLOW, and it is BAD for NAND. I do NOT recommend it.

lbcoder said:
Incorrect, on all counts.
Larger roms fit just fine as long as you aren't a complete moron about it.
Apps2SD is ***FASTER*** than keeping everything internal. The reason is that you have INCREASED BANDWIDTH!
Just because you are running an app does NOT mean that it is the ONLY thing drawing data from some storage device.
Each piece of hardware has certain bandwidth limits. If you are running a program from the sdcard, then more of the internal storage device's bandwidth is available for other things, thus net speedup!
Symlinks have ZERO effect on performance.
Note: SWAP is SLOW, and it is BAD for NAND. I do NOT recommend it.
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sorry, bro. i generally agree with what you say... but apps2sd is NOT faster. I've used it with a Mytouch before i knew jack **** about internal storage space (this is my first actual smartphone not counting a blackberry) and once i got rid of it my phone has been quite faster. not to mention it burnt up the sdcard i got with the phone and another one i bought. (probably wont have this problem with a class 6.)
swap? lol. man how many times do i hear this. swap is personal pref. sure it slows your phone down. but 32mb backing-swap works wonders for me. it all depends on how you use your phone. and by NAND i hope you don't mean a nandroid backup. not once since I've had this phone has swap ever affected my nandroid backup in any little way whatsoever.
edit: oh as for physical keyboard: i was same way. had a friend with an iPhone and of course i played with it. well, i eventually learned how to use the keyboard so when i went to go get a g1 i decided to go all touchscreen and what can i say? i'm faster texting with a touchscreen than i am a physical keyboard. also, I have to point out that symbols are much easier to access. and when you have to write a long e-mail to college professors it's nice to be able to use them quickly and efficiently.

So, down to the nitty gritty?
It seems like everyone is more of a fan of the G1 vs the MT3g?
Is that the verdict?
To trade or not to trade, that is the question.

r3s-rt said:
sorry, bro. i generally agree with what you say... but apps2sd is NOT faster. I've used it with a Mytouch before i knew jack **** about internal storage space (this is my first actual smartphone not counting a blackberry) and once i got rid of it my phone has been quite faster. not to mention it burnt up the sdcard i got with the phone and another one i bought. (probably wont have this problem with a class 6.)
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You either had a defect, or did something wrong. By your own admission, you know **Mod Edit **about internal storage.

lbcoder said:
You either had a defect, or did something wrong. By your own admission, you know **Mod Edit** about internal storage.
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if you're going to try and come off more educated than me, then may i suggest you read my whole post? much less go back to third grade english.
r3s-rt said:
sorry, bro. i generally agree with what you say... but apps2sd is NOT faster. I've used it with a Mytouch before i knew jack **** about internal storage space (this is my first actual smartphone not counting a blackberry) and once i got rid of it my phone has been quite faster. not to mention it burnt up the sdcard i got with the phone and another one i bought. (probably wont have this problem with a class 6.)
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r3s-rt said:
I've used it with a Mytouch before i knew jack **** about internal storage space
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There's also a number of real disadvantages to using ?Apps2SD:
1. It will probably slow your apps down as it's thrashing the sd more - even if you have a class 6
2. you'll reduce the life of your sd card
3. you won't be able to remove your SD card/mount it on your pc if you wanted to without your phone crashing/apps dying/hanging/etc.
4. if your SD card is dodgy in the slightest then it will also cause the above.. 5. crashing/hanging/random coredumps, etc - and you'll probably just blame the rom you're using rather than realising it's your SD card.
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taken from xda-wiki... maybe you need to look at... number 2? **Mod Edit **sdcard + walmart doesn't equal class 6, giving it an ever higher chance of dieing.

jdedeaux said:
So, down to the nitty gritty?
It seems like everyone is more of a fan of the G1 vs the MT3g?
Is that the verdict?
To trade or not to trade, that is the question.
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The verdict is that the DREAM is an UPGRADE.

There's also a number of real disadvantages to using ?Apps2SD:
1. It will probably slow your apps down as it's thrashing the sd more - even if you have a class 6
2. you'll reduce the life of your sd card
3. you won't be able to remove your SD card/mount it on your pc if you wanted to without your phone crashing/apps dying/hanging/etc.
4. if your SD card is dodgy in the slightest then it will also cause the above.. 5. crashing/hanging/random coredumps, etc - and you'll probably just blame the rom you're using rather than realising it's your SD card.
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1.... well you will note that it says "probably" -- it does NOT say "definitely". There ARE circumstances where it WILL make things slower, such as when ALSO using SWAPPING.
I would like to point out a technology called RAID. Specifically, a subset of RAID: RAID 0 "striping". With this technology, you use two or more disks together to increase the performance. Overall data throughput is typically the SUM of the throughput of each individual disk.
This isn't quite as sophisticated as striping, but it has the same kind of effect -- that the overall peak throughput will be the sum of the throughput of the individual components.
2 is true of ANYTHING that writes data to your sdcard. Running applications on your sdcard does not typically write ANYTHING -- it is simply the process of INSTALLING them that writes. You can READ them an UNLIMITED number of times. As a result, it is NOT VALID.
3 *partly* incorrect. You can't *remove* the card (how many people actually do remove it? Answer: not many), but you CERTAINLY CAN mount it to your computer and read/write the fat32 partition (read only on the ext). Doing this does NOT cause ANY instability.
4 and 5 are the same thing, and this also applies to your INTERNAL NAND or ANY OTHER storage device that you happen to own. Your home computer, for example. What does it do if the hard disk starts to fail? Things start crashing and it gets real slow.
Summary of 1 through 5: Not applicable.
Just because the information goes over your head (clearly WAY over your head) does NOT mean that there is anything wrong with it.
And for your information, I am reporting this. This kind of disrespect has no place in civilized conversation.

Post tidied up. Next step is to ban anyone who continues to be abusive.
Remain on topic and civil. If you can't respond in that manner then don't post.
WB

lol you guys are nuts, i asked if i should keep my MT3g or trade a guy for his G1 and it got so bad the mods had to come in... now thats a ****ing nerd rage if i've ever seen one... Not being rude but you guys are the reason I can come here to ask these questions because i know im not gonna get a biased answer. Everyone DEFINITELY has their own opinions.
so..
G1 - 1 MT3G - 0
Anyone gonna ante up the MT3G or top off w/ the G1...

Just because you aren't swearing doesn't mean you aren't being abusive. Knock it off.
To the OP, it really varies on what you want. What matters more to you? To me, the hardware keyboard is a GIGANTIC plus. But I don't mind the extra bulk of the HTC Dream. Unless you have the upgraded RAM Magic, then the Dream is better imho.
Also, to finish things once and for all, Apps2sd will not have a gigantic impact on your SD card, at all. Yes, flash does have a limited life, and yes, apps2sd will kill that faster, but it won't be as fast as people are saying. Swap on SD, however, WILL kill flash relatively fast.

Going nuts! with the limited space :( and other annoyances...

i think i'm hitting my limit here.
not sure if i can last a few more months with this limitation... (keeping fingers crossed for the next best thing that runs on 1700+2100)
i'm using Dropbox (3 GB) to ease the pain
i'm using Fiabee (1 GB) <--- that's nothing, it's like a drop in a bucket
i'm using Subsonic (not very useful, as it still uses local storage to catch the songs)
i'm using mSpot (same as Subsonic, easier to use, no need for server)
I'm using Picasa (but is useless unless you have actual space to take pictures)
I'm also using pixelpipe (yet another media sync that catches stuff locally, which also consumes local space)
the only real solution i see is to be able to plug in an USB flash drive to the SNS, and play my medias from there.
unfortunately that is out of the question at the moment, as no one have been able to get it working yet via USB storage driver
The problem with both dropbox and fiabee is their download rate is not fast enough to make them a viable Streamer
not to mention, you can't even access the files until you have downloaded them, which also makes it pointless as you (me) have no free space left to receive the files anyways
It's not fun (a very tedious task), having to keep uninstalling a bunch of apps/games every time i want to check out another app/game, or deleting a whole bunch MP3s / Videos that you use often, only to have to download them again a few minutes later.
on the SGS the 2 GB space for Apps/Games + MKV, DIVX and other media support on the SGS was like a GOD sent, also the extra microSD support really opened up the phone to all kind of possibilities.
unfortunately the SGS has its own demons as well like dying internal SD, GPS issues, bad file system, etc, etc, just to name a few.
seems like currently i'm stuck between the sword & a rock
......... i'm slowly starting to regret getting the SNS:
- main issue limited space
- unable to natively do Video Call other phones like Nokia, LG, Samsung
- no gorilla glass (already got a deep scratch with a minor drop, the old SGS went through a lot of dips without a single scratch)
the only positive thing i like the SNS:
- 2.3 OS
- the phone actually works without dying internal SD issues

is this a common thing are many people running out of space with the nexus s? i thought there was ample room with this phone with the new internal storage. i'm confused.

AllGamer said:
i think i'm hitting my limit here.
not sure if i can last a few more months with this limitation... (keeping fingers crossed for the next best thing that runs on 1700+2100)
i'm using Dropbox (3 GB) to ease the pain
i'm using Fiabee (1 GB) <--- that's nothing, it's like a drop in a bucket
i'm using Subsonic (not very useful, as it still uses local storage to catch the songs)
i'm using mSpot (same as Subsonic, easier to use, no need for server)
I'm using Picasa (but is useless unless you have actual space to take pictures)
I'm also using pixelpipe (yet another media sync that catches stuff locally, which also consumes local space)
the only real solution i see is to be able to plug in an USB flash drive to the SNS, and play my medias from there.
unfortunately that is out of the question at the moment, as no one have been able to get it working yet via USB storage driver
The problem with both dropbox and fiabee is their download rate is not fast enough to make them a viable Streamer
not to mention, you can't even access the files until you have downloaded them, which also makes it pointless as you (me) have no free space left to receive the files anyways
It's not fun (a very tedious task), having to keep uninstalling a bunch of apps/games every time i want to check out another app/game, or deleting a whole bunch MP3s / Videos that you use often, only to have to download them again a few minutes later.
on the SGS the 2 GB space for Apps/Games + MKV, DIVX and other media support on the SGS was like a GOD sent, also the extra microSD support really opened up the phone to all kind of possibilities.
unfortunately the SGS has its own demons as well like dying internal SD, GPS issues, bad file system, etc, etc, just to name a few.
seems like currently i'm stuck between the sword & a rock
......... i'm slowly starting to regret getting the SNS:
- main issue limited space
- unable to natively do Video Call other phones like Nokia, LG, Samsung
- no gorilla glass (already got a deep scratch with a minor drop, the old SGS went through a lot of dips without a single scratch)
the only positive thing i like the SNS:
- 2.3 OS
- the phone actually works without dying internal SD issues
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looks like you have a lot of media that you use often. That should have been your number one concern when making your phone buying decision. 1gb for apps should be more than enough space but maybe im kidding myself. And if you needed a phone with more storage space for media there were/are plenty of options available. just sounds to me like you didnt do your research beforehand. IJS

RogerPodacter said:
is this a common thing are many people running out of space with the nexus s? i thought there was ample room with this phone with the new internal storage. i'm confused.
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it's just me
not every one is a heavy user like i am
lets just say the phone is replacing my laptop, and i'm trying to do everything i was able to do on my laptop on the phone (which it can)
but the problem is the limited space
if it had the microSD support like its counter part Galaxy S, then it would have been a breeze to just swap another microSD to access the files you want quickly

tarusdg said:
looks like you have a lot of media that you use often. That should have been your number one concern when making your phone buying decision. 1gb for apps should be more than enough space but maybe im kidding myself. And if you needed a phone with more storage space for media there were/are plenty of options available. just sounds to me like you didnt do your research beforehand. IJS
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+1
Return it before the 30 days and buy yourself a phone with an sdcard slot. There is not much that can be done after it gets full.. hopefully 32gb will be enough

tarusdg said:
looks like you have a lot of media that you use often. That should have been your number one concern when making your phone buying decision. 1gb for apps should be more than enough space but maybe im kidding myself. And if you needed a phone with more storage space for media there were/are plenty of options available. just sounds to me like you didnt do your research beforehand. IJS
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not the case, i just though i could live with the limitation, but in the end it's not working out as planned.
still, i'll hang on to the SNS until a dual core with SAMOLED comes out, then i'll make my move.
this is the only Solid and stable Samsung phone so far, going back to a SGS Vibrant is like playing with fire
... I just needed to vent a little
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Use AudioGalaxy. I have 80gigs of music on my PC available for streaming to my NS. No caching needed.
My other suggestion, get a dedicated PMP.
-Nexus S

@AllGamer
Honestly, mate, I'd suggest returning/sending your Samsung Nexus S back if you still can. I've watched your post history over the last week or so and every other post seems to be a gripe about the Nexus S(like this one) or wishing that you had something from the Galaxy S lineup. Its clear that this phone is not a good fit for you and you should go back to your SGS device, whatever it may be.
I'm not trying to start a flamewar, call you out, or disrespect you or anything. I just think you'd be happier with a Vibrant or what have you. Different strokes for different folks.

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Use AudioGalaxy. I have 80gigs of music on my PC available for streaming to my NS. No caching needed.
My other suggestion, get a dedicated PMP.
-Nexus S
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Thanks for the tip. But do you know of anything similar that doesn't require your computer to be on?

nxt said:
Use AudioGalaxy. I have 80gigs of music on my PC available for streaming to my NS. No caching needed.
My other suggestion, get a dedicated PMP.
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that's a good food for though, i'll try it out

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@AllGamer
Honestly, mate, I'd suggest returning/sending your Samsung Nexus S back if you still can. I've watched your post history over the last week or so and every other post seems to be a gripe about the Nexus S(like this one) or wishing that you had something from the Galaxy S lineup. Its clear that this phone is not a good fit for you and you should go back to your SGS device, whatever it may be.
I'm not trying to start a flamewar, call you out, or disrespect you or anything. I just think you'd be happier with a Vibrant or what have you. Different strokes for different folks.
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don't worry mate
all comments are welcome.
I did play with the idea of getting the the SGS vibrant SGH-T959, i might even trade my SGS i9000 for the SGH-T959
Currently i'm toying with the idea of converting the SGS i9000 to use the SGH-T959 radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908120
in the end if i can find some Software alternative, then perhaps i can go on a few more months longer and switch to the next best phone all together, assuming they will support 1700+2100

"i'm using mSpot (same as Subsonic, easier to use, no need for server)"
hey man,did you update mspot??? recently.
they do stream from server now,without downloading it on your phone.
all my mspot(xept covers/albumart folder) are empty even after playing 30 songs.

When did you sign up for Fiabee? They upgraded my account to 15 GB on new years for being "one of the first to try it" or something like that.

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not the case, i just though i could live with the limitation, but in the end it's not working out as planned.
still, i'll hang on to the SNS until a dual core with SAMOLED comes out, then i'll make my move.
this is the only Solid and stable Samsung phone so far, going back to a SGS Vibrant is like playing with fire
... I just needed to vent a little
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Cool, I can understand that.

AllGamer said:
it's just me
not every one is a heavy user like i am
lets just say the phone is replacing my laptop, and i'm trying to do everything i was able to do on my laptop on the phone (which it can)
but the problem is the limited space
if it had the microSD support like its counter part Galaxy S, then it would have been a breeze to just swap another microSD to access the files you want quickly
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yeah well.. then I'm sorry but you did a bad job @ requierement engineering for your new device ;-)
well anyway. you should get some decent $$ on ebay for the nexus

Well, you could get an android pmp like archos 43. Nice device with sd card, and can obviously download music. Its their new, smaller line. 2.1, but hey. Its a pmp.
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jazz145 said:
yeah well.. then I'm sorry but you did a bad job @ requierement engineering for your new device ;-)
well anyway. you should get some decent $$ on ebay for the nexus
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the Nexus S sells for a lot more here locally than on eBay
so i have no problem at all letting it go, but as i posted a few message above
the SNS is the most solid device so far released by Samsung, that being said
i find it very hard to find another phone with SAMOLED display that can beat the SNS, as the Vibrant is not very good else i've swapped the SNS for the SGS in a heart beat.
i still have another SGS here with me, but it's not compatible to 1700+2100

AllGamer said:
the Nexus S sells for a lot more here locally than on eBay
so i have no problem at all letting it go, but as i posted a few message above
the SNS is the most solid device so far released by Samsung, that being said
i find it very hard to find another phone with SAMOLED display that can beat the SNS, as the Vibrant is not very good else i've swapped the SNS for the SGS in a heart beat.
i still have another SGS here with me, but it's not compatible to 1700+2100
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All you can eat everything for $40 FTW!

Why I think no removable batter/MicroSD is a good thing.

Lets talk about the MicroSD first
Like everyone I love to have a phone with MicroSD feature. It makes it easier to swap between my phones as well as to transfer data to my PC. I myself won't mind spending lots of money on a fast microSD card but I have yet to find one that is both FAST and LARGE in capacity. On my Note 4, i'm using Sandisk Extreme and my fastest bench mark test was 70mb Read and 39 Write. Now these numbers are decent but In my opinion MicroSD cards are not keeping up with the speed of phones these days which is cause bottleneck issue and is one of the reasons behind all the lag that people complain about.
Now with the Universal Flash Storage (UFS) 2.0 which has 350Mb/s Read and 150Mb/s, you can rest assure it will not cause any lag from viewing pictures and videos as well as swapping from app to app. Not to mention you can always plug in your OTG cable with flash usb and do all your backups there titanium backup or simply copying your data there which is what i'm doing currently.
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Samsung has ultra fast 128GB UFS 2.0 ready for smartphones
As for the Battery,
While having a removable battery is a plus, from my personal experience I have yet to use it when I want too. I have extra battery and charger for my Note 4 but i always find my self plugging it in rather than taking the cover off and restart my phone. Now with all the new features to charge wirelessily and fastcharge 2.0, I don't think anyone would have any issue. Iphone users as well as other brands from nexus 5,6 and htc didn't complain about their battery then why should we when are ahead of the game in many ways?
With all the features we are getting on the GS6, I think i can easily sacrifice on these too.

I generally agree with you. But after 8 months or so my phone batteries are noticeably less able to hold a charge as much. My note 3 (loved that phone) went from 8-9 hours screen on time to not even 6 hours. Big difference. Changed the bettery and back to normal. This is what I want to be able to do especially if I keep the phone 2 years!
Most people are complaining about choice being taken away

lawtq said:
I generally agree with you. But after 8 months or so my phone batteries are noticeably less able to hold a charge as much. My note 3 (loved that phone) went from 8-9 hours screen on time to not even 6 hours. Big difference. Changed the bettery and back to normal. This is what I want to be able to do especially if I keep the phone 2 years!
Most people are complaining about choice being taken away
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Most batteries have a life cycle of 500 charges. But then having non removable back doesn't mean the battery is not replaceable. You can always heat up the back with air dryer and pull the back off and i'm sure you will see many people doing a tutorial on that but we have to wait and see if it easy to do so or hard.

There's just no good reason to remove microSD support and no real argument to support the decision. Literally every reason you mentioned for supporting the decision could have been done without microSD support being removed. It's that simple. Use of microSD was an -option- that nobody would have been forced to use. Removal of options is rarely a good thing, and this isn't one of those rare exceptions.
Lack of a removable battery has only two good sides in most any situation, and one of them was left out of the picture here. Non-removable battery brings two benefits, and two benefits only.
1. Unibody design (Usually means slimmer, which at this point, it's highly debatable whether or not that's even a good thing)
2. Waterproofing (Omitted)
Personally, the 128GB of (hopefully) UFS will be enough for me and I STILL disagree with the decision. Why? Again, removal of options is rarely a good thing, and this isn't one of those cases. I can take or leave the removable battery. Simple fact of the matter is that I havn't had nor used a device where I couldn't change the battery when I felt like it regardless of whether or not it being removable was part of a spec sheet or not. With that said, I'm not a daily battery swapper, so I certainly see why people are concerned there.
Regardless, what should have happened is that there should have been a 128GB UFS option WITH support for a microSD utilizing up to 128GBs, period. I suspect that their reasoning (other than the obvious incredibly mild cost savings) will be for the sake of trying to do the impossible and "fix stupid." By fixing stupid, I mean you'll always have people who won't be able to comprehend that all flash storage isn't just any ole flash storage, and will whine and complain that their $10 Wal-mart microSD isn't as fast as the on-board storage. Which will lead to them saying the device is slow when in actuality they're just too "slow" to realize what the issue is. While I understand the concept thanks to my personal field of expertise, I've already realized the truth in that matter:
When you try to fix stupid, you piss off smart, and stupid stays stupid; just in some other manner of being stupid.
And of course there's the greed aspect; wherein all of a sudden, a would-be 32GB buyer becomes a 64GB buyer and a 64GB buyer becomes a 128GB buyer due to the lack of a microSD slot.

For how I use my SD cards (and it seems that I'm far from alone in this), the speed makes no real difference at all. I keep my cards loaded up with my most commonly used FLAC files and rarely make any changes to them. On my S4 I see no difference in opening music or video files compared to the internal storage. Copying new files to the phone via USB is certainly slower on SD, but that's the only situation where the speed difference is even noticeable.
For the OS and apps, the built-in storage speed is the only way to fly, but having more onboard storage is always better for me, even if it's relatively slow SD added to 128GB of super fast UFS. I've used OTG and it's completely annoying and clunky having wires & USB drives hanging off the phone, and the OTG route isn't nearly as compact as carrying an extra MicroSD card (or three).
Battery is less of an issue for me in everyday use, but I travel a lot for work and having spare internal batteries means I can sit in airports and on planes without having to have an external device hanging off of my phone to keep it running. What if you are running low on battery AND the files you need are on OTG? I don't think you can do both at the same time, something that would never be a problem on a phone with SD and removable battery.

As I mentioned in another tread, I don't think the battery issue is a big deal any more just because those portable battery chargers are cheaper than an extra battery. I just put the phone in my pocket with one of those and I am charged up in no time. I haven't bought a spare battery since my SGS3 for this reason.
As far as the SD card does though, I HATE that it's gone. It's not even a space issue, it's a functionality issue. I think 64gig is more than enough for me. I haven't filled up my 64gig card. However, when I go from one phone to another, I just put my microsd card in and I'm done. If my phone breaks, gets wet, doesn't turn on any more... I didn't lose anything, my titanium backup is on my SD card, I pull that out and put it into my replacement phone, and I'm good to go.
The process now to get a new phone up and running is now much harder and the risk of losing everything if your phone breaks is much higher. Yes, yes... there is a cloud. But without unlimited data, I don't want to back up to my cloud... plus I don't want my pictures being uploaded to the cloud anyway.

Yathani said:
Lets talk about the MicroSD first
Like everyone I love to have a phone with MicroSD feature. It makes it easier to swap between my phones as well as to transfer data to my PC. I myself won't mind spending lots of money on a fast microSD card but I have yet to find one that is both FAST and LARGE in capacity. On my Note 4, i'm using Sandisk Extreme and my fastest bench mark test was 70mb Read and 39 Write. Now these numbers are decent but In my opinion MicroSD cards are not keeping up with the speed of phones these days which is cause bottleneck issue and is one of the reasons behind all the lag that people complain about.
Now with the Universal Flash Storage (UFS) 2.0 which has 350Mb/s Read and 150Mb/s, you can rest assure it will not cause any lag from viewing pictures and videos as well as swapping from app to app. Not to mention you can always plug in your OTG cable with flash usb and do all your backups there titanium backup or simply copying your data there which is what i'm doing currently.
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The entire basis for your argument is stupid.
External cards are mostly used for storing media files where speed is not a concern

vortexmak said:
The entire basis for your argument is stupid.
External cards are mostly used for storing media files where speed is not a concern
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And your entire reply basis is ignorant and does not show respect to other opinion.

Yathani said:
And your entire reply basis is ignorant and does not show respect to other opinion.
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No **** Sherlock!!

Yathani said:
And your entire reply basis is ignorant and does not show respect to other opinion.
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You are entitled to your opinion for sure but you are certainly not entitled to respect for that opinion...your arguments are without merit and though I wouldn't call them stupid simply out of politeness I am sure others would not be as polite.....
Fact is they could have kept the microsd and ufs.
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My Samsung Galaxy Nexus runs the sane nearly 3 1/2 years later, in terms of the battery, as it did on day 1. I've never had to replace the battery, and in my opinion, the whole "batteries degrade in less than a year" argument is a sham.
Also, let's face reality, the average consumer isn't a techno nerd on a phone forum or a tech blogger. The average person looks at the phones in their local carrier store and picks what they like (if they aren't already set on an iPhone of course). The S6 stands head and shoulders above the rest in terms of display, design, and the "edge". This phone will sell well, despite not having a removable back or SD card slot. 99% (yes...I made that up) of people out there aren't walking around with a spare battery in their pocket, or trying to carry 10,000 songs, and multi-gig videos on their phones.

If your phone were to suddenly die or break for some reason, good luck retrieving photos, videos, etc. from it. With a MicroSD storage, you can just remove it and be on your way.
I like to store movies and archive photos, videos, etc. and having expandable storage is extremely crucial. Would you buy a PC without a removable PSU or removable hard drives? Didn't think so.
The only logical explanation for Samsung to go this route, regardless of what's been touted in the news, is that they deliberately want a drop in sales and stocks and company image. Then the S7 will bring it back and they'll give the impression of it being a new breathtaking device for the people. Either that, or the S7 will be a flip phone.
I'm a Note user, and if the Note 5 goes this backwards route, then I will never consider Samsung as a brand again.

Well I think they would cut the SD card slot out mostly to save a few bucks and to get people to buy the larger versions of their phone. I do understand that if people move things like apps to their SD card they will miss the whole speed point of the phone. The only think I have ever put on my SD card are pictures and music... maybe a video now and then.... and if that moves any faster the music tempo will be off
I appreciate the fact that their new memory is much faster but people never do well with a feature being taken away.

SirWise23 said:
Well I think they would cut the SD card slot out mostly to save a few bucks and to get people to buy the larger versions of their phone. I do understand that if people move things like apps to their SD card they will miss the whole speed point of the phone. The only think I have ever put on my SD card are pictures and music... maybe a video now and then.... and if that moves any faster the music tempo will be off
I appreciate the fact that their new memory is much faster but people never do well with a feature being taken away.
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They could have done with a simple warning.
The point of the SD is that you can move all your media to it, leaving the faster internal storage free for apps

I think its more of a personal preference. I used to be a person that was so "pro-removable battery", but when I had my S5, I wasnt even changing my batteries as often. Now that I have a Z3, which has no removable battery, I don't even think about battery because the phone lasts long. I charge my battery every night before I sleep anyways and it lasts me through the day. So long as the S6 does the same I will be happy.

Well said

ThaiM said:
If your phone were to suddenly die or break for some reason, good luck retrieving photos, videos, etc. from it. With a MicroSD storage, you can just remove it and be on your way.
I like to store movies and archive photos, videos, etc. and having expandable storage is extremely crucial. Would you buy a PC without a removable PSU or removable hard drives? Didn't think so.
The only logical explanation for Samsung to go this route, regardless of what's been touted in the news, is that they deliberately want a drop in sales and stocks and company image. Then the S7 will bring it back and they'll give the impression of it being a new breathtaking device for the people. Either that, or the S7 will be a flip phone.
I'm a Note user, and if the Note 5 goes this backwards route, then I will never consider Samsung as a brand again.
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Thats why you back up your stuff...its not wise to keep everything you own on a MicroSD, because it can crash and break just like internal memory can

smooth4lyfe said:
Thats why you back up your stuff...its not wise to keep everything you own on a MicroSD, because it can crash and break just like internal memory can
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You can backup and still have archives on your MicroSD for viewing.
And another instance, if you're on vacation and want to take many videos and photos with your device. You CAN with removable external storage. Backing up onto the cloud during vacations is not practical. Unless you're a millionaire with an endless cashflow for data. Look how much space a single 2 minute 4K video clip takes up. That'll fill up your entire device in no time. And then backing up gigs and gigs of data to the cloud? And then retrieving? Not practical. The cloud is not a compromise.

I am inclined to agree with the OP. The new nand is going to make the phone fly, and will help the phone capture great photos. I'm just finally glad they ditched the 16GB option. That should have disappeared with the S3.
I look forward to the head to head reviews with the M9. If the camera doesn't perform well, I'll most likely get the S6.

ThaiM said:
You can backup and still have archives on your MicroSD for viewing.
And another instance, if you're on vacation and want to take many videos and photos with your device. You CAN with removable external storage. Backing up onto the cloud during vacations is not practical. Unless you're a millionaire with an endless cashflow for data. Look how much space a single 2 minute 4K video clip takes up. That'll fill up your entire device in no time. And then backing up gigs and gigs of data to the cloud? And then retrieving? Not practical. The cloud is not a compromise.
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Do you plan on taking many 4K videos?
I have 60GB of Dropbox free (from a Samsung promotion) and I save all my pics on there, its not that bad. The only con about using cloud storage is safety of files. If you make a Box Cloud account, you get 20GB free. You can also retrieve them anytime (so long as u have a data connection, which could be a con in some cases).
I do agree that having a MicroSD card is more convenient, but I don't see it as a major dealbreaker

T-Mobile variant external storage

I received mine yesterday and noticed there is no spot for my SD card... Anyone notice this and know why??

Its because there is no SD card support for the OP6T.....quite a simple answer. Some phones take SD cards, some do not. This phone does not. you should have know that had you done a little research before buying this phone.

Appreciate the feedback. I thought it was an iPhone thing and didn't even think that OnePlus did that.

suaverc118 said:
Appreciate the feedback. I thought it was an iPhone thing and didn't even think that OnePlus did that.
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It's more and more common to not have SD slots in phones. Big internal storage and cloud storage are taking over the need for SD slots, and freeing up room for other hardware features.
Personally, I've never needed more than a 64GB phone, but I've found myself waiting on an order for the 256GB version of the 6T. I suspect having the extra storage capacity will make me use it.

I'll never buy the argument 'its not needed' bull story, especially from OnePlus. Same for the headphone. Kinda violates their own motto: Never Settle. Such a small and insignificant change from a software/hardware view.

Archer said:
It's more and more common to not have SD slots in phones. Big internal storage and cloud storage are taking over the need for SD slots, and freeing up room for other hardware features.
Personally, I've never needed more than a 64GB phone, but I've found myself waiting on an order for the 256GB version of the 6T. I suspect having the extra storage capacity will make me use it.
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I've been in the same boat. Once I hit 64gb I've been good. Even with system backups.
But I'm also a heavy user of Google photos and Google Drive, so I can understand how it's not for everyone.
The only time I've come close is multi boot and having multiple iso's for drivedroid.

Mesmurized said:
I'll never buy the argument 'its not needed' bull story, especially from OnePlus. Same for the headphone. Kinda violates their own motto: Never Settle. Such a small and insignificant change from a software/hardware view.
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and yet GOOGLE NEXUS phones have NEVER had an SD slot cuz they are SLOW. Need more room? get the 256GB version.

jerrywmilton said:
and yet GOOGLE NEXUS phones have NEVER had an SD slot cuz they are SLOW. Need more room? get the 256GB version.
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I wouldn't say never. The Nexus One had an SD slot (the g1 also had an SD slot and while not a Nexus, it could be considered the first in the Nexus line in spirit).
Anyway, not to get off topic. Just wanted to put this out there.

jerrywmilton said:
and yet GOOGLE NEXUS phones have NEVER had an SD slot cuz they are SLOW. Need more room? get the 256GB version.
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Just because you don't need/want it does not invalidate my complaint. The space is there, the software is there --- why argue? Are you a stock-holder?

Mesmurized said:
Just because you don't need/want it does not invalidate my complaint. The space is there, the software is there --- why argue? Are you a stock-holder?
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so you bring up the no SD card argument every time OP has a new model ? Brilliant.

jerrywmilton said:
so you bring up the no SD card argument every time OP has a new model ? Brilliant.
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You're funny. My first OP complaint. Got more? Prove it!!

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You're funny. My first OP complaint. Got more? Prove it!!
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Being the OPO, OP2, OPX, OP3, OP3T, OP5, OP5T, OP6, and now OP6T have never had an SD slot...strange you just now noticed.

jerrywmilton said:
Being the OPO, OP2, OPX, OP3, OP3T, OP5, OP5T, OP6, and now OP6T have never had an SD slot...strange you just now noticed.
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The OnePlus X actually had an SD Card slot,but yeah,point definitely taken.
Having no SD Card slot has otherwise been OnePlus' M.O., not exactly news.
Of course we'd all rather have the option.
But,unless OnePlus wants to dip their toe in the water again with a mid-tier/budget phone,I seriously doubt we'll see a SD Card slot on any future models.
It's one of their design/build choices to keep mfg costs down,don't see that changing anytime soon.

jerrywmilton said:
Being the OPO, OP2, OPX, OP3, OP3T, OP5, OP5T, OP6, and now OP6T have never had an SD slot...strange you just now noticed.
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Again with your jump to conclusions. I'm a patient man, gave them plenty of time to make it happen and to go above and beyond expectations

I think it's a fair trade-off. If we were forced to accept only 64GB (which is less in practice) then the absence of Micro SD support would truly suck. But I think 128GB base is fair for most and the 256GB option is more than fair. 128GB needs to be the industry standard base option moving forward.
Cloud services can be helpful but ultimately you're at the mercy of data/WiFi coverage which I was never a fan of. But, like I said. 128GB base is fair enough. I can live with that.
If there is ever a need for extra storage for something like bringing along TV Shows or Movies to watch during a long trip or whatever, there's always USB-C Flash Storage sticks. They've gotten pretty compact and practical to use.

roaduardo said:
I think it's a fair trade-off. If we were forced to accept only 64GB (which is less in practice) then the absence of Micro SD support would truly suck. But I think 128GB base is fair for most and the 256GB option is more than fair. 128GB needs to be the industry standard base option moving forward.
Cloud services can be helpful but ultimately you're at the mercy of data/WiFi coverage which I was never a fan of. But, like I said. 128GB base is fair enough. I can live with that.
If there is ever a need for extra storage for something like bringing along TV Shows or Movies to watch during a long trip or whatever, there's always USB-C Flash Storage sticks. They've gotten pretty compact and practical to use.
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Saw this post and looked into USB c flash storage drives. Not bad priced. Just hope the 6T can read it. I had a USB c card reader from Anker laying around and put my 256gb sd card in it and the phone would not read it. So I tried my 128gb SD card...nope. Tried a 32gb, 8gb and a 1gb as well lol would not read. Also tried using the SD card adapter that you slide the micro into. Same, won't read.
Mainly just need it for movies and TV shows I have that I just haven't had time to upload to my Plex, also for the tons of roms I have for different emulators. Has anybody gotten any kind of card reader or external storage to work?

s0calstate0fmind said:
Saw this post and looked into USB c flash storage drives. Not bad priced. Just hope the 6T can read it. I had a USB c card reader from Anker laying around and put my 256gb sd card in it and the phone would not read it. So I tried my 128gb SD card...nope. Tried a 32gb, 8gb and a 1gb as well lol would not read. Also tried using the SD card adapter that you slide the micro into. Same, won't read.
Mainly just need it for movies and TV shows I have that I just haven't had time to upload to my Plex, also for the tons of roms I have for different emulators. Has anybody gotten any kind of card reader or external storage to work?
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Working fine here with a Meenova adapter.
Might be your card reader is defective,or,double check your Dev. Options for USB:
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s0calstate0fmind said:
Saw this post and looked into USB c flash storage drives. Not bad priced. Just hope the 6T can read it. I had a USB c card reader from Anker laying around and put my 256gb sd card in it and the phone would not read it. So I tried my 128gb SD card...nope. Tried a 32gb, 8gb and a 1gb as well lol would not read. Also tried using the SD card adapter that you slide the micro into. Same, won't read.
Mainly just need it for movies and TV shows I have that I just haven't had time to upload to my Plex, also for the tons of roms I have for different emulators. Has anybody gotten any kind of card reader or external storage to work?
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Oh, nice. I'm glad you mentioned this because I just tried this out and it works! It was just a theory because I never actually tried it on other phones. I just knew USB-C flash drives existed. I'm using one of the Samsung adapters that came with my previous Note and S phones and a PNY 128GB USB 3.0 drive. I transferred a picture from my phone to the drive and checked on my PC and it was there. I was also able to play an HD video from the drive on the 6T using the MX Pro video player (my fave video player).

KOLIOSIS said:
Working fine here with a Meenova adapter.
Might be your card reader is defective,or,double check your Dev. Options for USB:
https://shopmeenova.appspot.com/st/p/dash_g3c.html#buy
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No way, meenova is still around! I had one of their adapters years ago. Still have it somewhere it doesn't work anymore tho. But yeah, could be defective unit. I tried everything. Double checked settings all that. Probably just gonna return it. I'll be purchasing the meenova adapter. Thanks man I appreciate it!

s0calstate0fmind said:
No way, meenova is still around! I had one of their adapters years ago. Still have it somewhere it doesn't work anymore tho. But yeah, could be defective unit. I tried everything. Double checked settings all that. Probably just gonna return it. I'll be purchasing the meenova adapter. Thanks man I appreciate it!
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:good: :good: For the Meenova adapters,very convenient,keep it on my key ring.