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Will there ever be an appless rom available

I just wonder...
Isn't the whole OS supposed to be absolutely customizable??
I understand apps like phone and contacts must still exist.
The impression I have is that people want the ability to have a completely clean app tray... I know I'd like one that is specifically seperate from Phone, Contacts, SMS, and Voice Mail.
I also wish I had a clean slate for widgets.. I wish all my ring tones were gone.. I wish all the wall Papers were gone. I wish the boot animations were gone..
I don't even want the "market" app visible.. I want the option to go into the market by hitting them menu button while in my apps tray and I not only want market to perform the function of searching for apps but I want it to be have a searchable directory for apps, widgets,ringtones, wall papers, boot animations.. etc.
It would also be extremely awesome if the essential codes for the essential programs were coded into the main code instead of these apps.. so that even the native essential apps I listed could be swapped out.
I think it should be done.. And I think a new repository should be made for a new market place where the XDA elite could build the programs and leave these other guys who are doing nothing for the OS as a whole but flooding the market place... they can take a f'ing hike..
You guys should leave them on the back burner and then give me .1 cent ( cause I am freaking poor) of all your sales while we head a internet market campaign aimed at recruiting all android users over to the faster more customizable base model with an XDA market place.
Seriously.. you guys could charge access to the market place and get the service going like one of those other services that bill your cell bill..
Screw those other developers... you guys making the roms are the bread and butter of what will make android what it is...
And any developer who wants to publish programs on your better version of code.. you should charge them a fee....
and then you should lock up the code for your customized version of the OS and take a decade to release it.
I seriously want a 10th of a cent on every dollar for my thought.. its a billion dollar market... you guys could take it imo.
And as you do you could hire more people to work to get it functioning on every smart phone that hits the market.
You guys should do it.. I need a cool million and you guys need a cool billion... cut them out of the picture and make apple struggle.. i heard they are going to emulate the android OS or something on the iphone so users can switch between OS...
F it... rename the whole OS "Jack dRoid"

Nevermind...decided I didn't want to get into this discussion after all. Please ignore.

smw6180 said:
Nevermind...decided I didn't want to get into this discussion after all. Please ignore.
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omfg, that makes 2 of us...

Why??
What is customizable by a regular user??
Wall papers and widget placement????????
I despise the flooded market place that struggles to accustom a bunch of different versions of one OS.
I also despise the fact that the people doing the real developing work, are probably having their work stolen all the while others are just flooding the market place with junk trying to profit... not to mention the people here are the best customer service you can get.
It personally pisses me off.
If you guys think the pieces of the pie are in the right hands then either A. You are stealing others work and you work for someone getting a big piece of the pie or B. You are making contributions and getting nothing for it and need to check your self value.
Nobody is bringing me apps2SD,tethering, themes, roms, 2.1 but the people here...
The rest are just beating around the bush providing crappy customer service while refusing to even provide me with the option to change the way my dialer looks,. all the while providing ridiculous salaries to a bunch of slackers.
If I'm not correct just say it instead of trying to troll the thread as if its ridiculous to think or even partake in the discussion.

Cloned2 said:
Why??
What is customizable by a regular user??
Wall papers and widget placement????????
I despise the flooded market place that struggles to accustom a bunch of different versions of one OS.
I also despise the fact that the people doing the real developing work, are probably having their work stolen all the while others are just flooding the market place with junk trying to profit... not to mention the people here are the best customer service you can get.
It personally pisses me off.
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what the hell are you going on about?

<SARCASM> "I bought this cool phone and it turned out to not be an iphone. Now I'm frustrated." </SARCASM>

If I'm not correct just say it instead of trying to troll the thread as if its ridiculous to think or even partake in the discussion in any manner besides avoiding confronting what I said, directly.

Your initial post shows a lack of understanding, lack of good humor, was not particularly constructive and you are a horrible salesman. How would you like us to respond?

Cloned2 said:
If I'm not correct just say it instead of trying to troll the thread as if its ridiculous to think or even partake in the discussion in any manner besides avoiding confronting what I said, directly.
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I see no point in 'confronting what you said, directly' since it's obvious you're quite..um...passionate about your view point. There can be no honest discussion in that event since the standard rebuttal is always 'Well you're an idiot, and you're wrong' to anything that's said against the original post. As I said, I choose not to get involved in a discussion of that sort.

fixxxer2008 said:
what the hell are you going on about?
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We are talking about how some people pour bleach into laundry and act stupid so they don't have to do the laundry... Do you see what I'm saying?

Cloned2 said:
We are talking about how some people pour bleach into laundry and act stupid so they don't have to do the laundry... Do you see what I'm saying?
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I drank gasoline once, 20 minutes later I turned my penis into a flamethrower. It was cool.

smw6180 said:
I see no point in 'confronting what you said, directly' since it's obvious you're quite..um...passionate about your view point. There can be no honest discussion in that event since the standard rebuttal is always 'Well you're an idiot, and you're wrong' to anything that's said against the original post. As I said, I choose not to get involved in a discussion of that sort.
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Emotionally sensitive rationalizations with out verifiable accusations??
Then have what you expect... because "you're an idiot, and you're wrong"
I'd still like your honest opinion about any of the ideas regardless.

I like turtles.

I see the sequel to this thread being:
"Will there ever be a pointless thread available"
but it would mean that the OP of that thread didn't use the search feature to find this one

iviyth0s said:
I see the sequel to this thread being:
"Will there ever be a pointless thread available"
but it would mean that the OP of that thread didn't use the search feature to find this one
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Will you please comment atleast on whether or not you think there will be an appless rom available. lol

Cloned2 said:
Will you please comment atleast on whether or not you think there will be an appless rom available. lol
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We can't. We're all idiots and we're wrong.

doojer said:
I like turtles.
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are you zombie boy?

Cloned2 said:
Will you please comment atleast on whether or not you think there will be an appless rom available. lol
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my magic 8ball said, "Outlook not so good" Sorry man.

smw6180 said:
We can't. We're all idiots and we're wrong.
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Gimmie a break... thats not true of you

My Life Is Android Beta

Hey,
I'm starting a site called MyLifeIsAndroid
It's basically a social network for Android users.
You can post your own blog, photos, videos, and have your own page.
Im looking for some beta testers. Click this link and sign up http://mylifeisandroid.ning.com/?xgi=59FMEylI8icmJa
Also if anyone could throw out a logo for the website that would be appreciated!
Thanks

hmmm, any more details?

A social network for Android users? I laughed.

Isn't there like a million of these already??!!

I'm curious what you want to do. you wanna create something like a forum? or maybe a android app.
i like to test it, pm me

Mokurex said:
Isn't there like a million of these already??!!
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Always room for a million more!

You can count me in for the beta test...

Who ever wants to test it out click this link and sign up http://mylifeisandroid.ning.com/?xgi=59FMEylI8icmJa
And no its not a forum, its like a facebook

@kobecamp
If I signup, do I get a forward facing camera for my N1? Me wants!!!

I signed up to the site for support of your project. Will venture through it in a moment.

seems pretty cool. i already signed up.

lilchip85 said:
seems pretty cool. i already signed up.
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Thanks
We're working on adding new features and make it more appealing to the eye

peliROJO said:
@kobecamp
If I signup, do I get a forward facing camera for my N1? Me wants!!!
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LOL poor guy messed up his rep with that post

This is a site that I could definitely see myself becomming accustomed to checking out on a daily basis. I love the idea!!

Hey I like the site. I have started uploading a few pics. Maybe i'll put up a vid or two.

Thanks guys!

kobecamp2009 said:
Hey,
I'm starting a site called MyLifeIsAndroid
It's basically a social network for Android users.
You can post your own blog, photos, videos, and have your own page.
Im looking for some beta testers. Click this link and sign up http://mylifeisandroid.ning.com/?xgi=59FMEylI8icmJa
Also if anyone could throw out a logo for the website that would be appreciated!
Thanks
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Dude you need to buy a domain anx get a host and develop something if you plan to ever get any kind of user base.

Humm... Do you share Cracked/copy_protected/hacked apps in your "new site"? Shame on you...

Lysin said:
Humm... Do you share Cracked/copy_protected/hacked apps in your "new site"? Shame on you...
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Not anymore

donniesd said:
Dude you need to buy a domain anx get a host and develop something if you plan to ever get any kind of user base.
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Just purchased the domain, I have a host.

App Inventor: It begins!

just got my confirmation from google, app inventor is up and running! i think it would be a good idea to maybe get a thread goin for everything app inventor/a help page for using it. just a thought

Dear Google,
GIVE ME MY CONFIRMATION EMAIL!!!
I'll give you a cookie.
-Blueman

I go one, I tried it, turns out I still fail :')

I got mine a couple of weeks ago. It will definitely take some learning on my part. Fun though. It would be nice to have a thread for tips and tricks. I wrote a little about it on my blog, link below in my signature.

I signed up for it a couple weeks ago. Do I have to be a registered developer in order to receive the invitation?

Got my invite too.

I didn't get my invite but I am able to get in and create projects.

difrnt said:
I didn't get my invite but I am able to get in and create projects.
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care to explain?

Blueman101 said:
care to explain?
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I'll explain. he is a current member and opened a new account just to see the 100's of people that are going to ask the same thing. congrats, you are No. 1

sstang2006 said:
I'll explain. he is a current member and opened a new account just to see the 100's of people that are going to ask the same thing. congrats, you are No. 1
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Wrong... but nice try.
I simply was logged into my Google account and went to the app inventor page there was a my projects link on the top. I clicked it, I was able to access app inventor. As a word of caution make sure you have the app inventor extras installed prior to trying to use the blocks, it can / will be kind of screwy if you don't.

Now we'll need a new section on XDA..
xda-developers > Android Development and Hacking >Android CrApps

khaytsus said:
Now we'll need a new section on XDA..
xda-developers > Android Development and Hacking >Android CrApps
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lolz. has anyone actually successfully made an app using this?

Made the tutorial hellopurr app in about 5 minutes...the install was about 4mb though

I'm able to log in with out an invite too. Cool!

I've made some little things with it.
I need it to be able to parse RSS, or at least XML, before I'm able to implement any of my actual wanted-app ideas with it, though.

Hi All,
We just enabled another batch of accounts for access to App Inventor.
Due to some technical difficulties the email notifications may be
delayed. So if you requested access, please feel free to try to login
at http://appinventor.googlelabs.com to see if your account is enabled
yet.
For those people who have not yet been granted access, we appreciated
your patience as we ramp up access to App Inventor.
The App Inventor Team

khaytsus said:
Now we'll need a new section on XDA..
xda-developers > Android Development and Hacking >Android CrApps
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I don't know, I think it does have SOME potential. Believe it or not, there are people like me out there with VERY limited java experience that have some neat app ideas. I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with the inventor.
I do agree that everybody and their mother will probably be making the stupid "click the cat to hear a purr" app knockoff .
There should be a marketplace filter for app inventor apps so you know what you're signing up for haha

Devastatin said:
Hi All,
We just enabled another batch of accounts for access to App Inventor.
Due to some technical difficulties the email notifications may be
delayed. So if you requested access, please feel free to try to login
at http://appinventor.googlelabs.com to see if your account is enabled
yet.
For those people who have not yet been granted access, we appreciated
your patience as we ramp up access to App Inventor.
The App Inventor Team
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So what I just read: Google can't send emails.
I tried it for giggles, nothing for me. I guess I'll have to wait to make those fart machines.

unknownrebelx said:
I do agree that everybody and their mother will probably be making the stupid "click the cat to hear a purr" app knockoff .
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¿Click the cat to hear a purr?
¡¡HOLY FU***NG COW I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!

Got my invite as well. Give it a whirl tomorrow while I need to pass some time.

[Q] What is NoDo ?

Hi
What is NoDo?
Thanks
Amedeus

NoDo is an update to WP7 by Microsoft scheduled for March 2011.
Next big update is called Mango and is scheduled Q3/2011. This should bring multitasking an other stuff...

Does that mean that NoDo is 7.7008 as this is an update just released ?

No, as I know, the 7008 is an Update to improve the update capabilities to install further updates.
NoDo is 7389, I think.

So what does NoDO stand for?

Specifically - it is short for 'No Donuts'. Actually, it means nothing - it's just a name. It could just as easily be a reference number.

Gustopher said:
Specifically - it is short for 'No Donuts'. Actually, it means nothing - it's just a name. It could just as easily be a reference number.
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It is a poke at Android as all of Androids versions have had a name to do with pastry. You know Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, and now Honeycomb. It is just a way for Microsoft to make fun of Android publicly and not get sued for it lol. Look at the name of the next update, Mangoo which is a fruit. Fruit is suppose to be good for you and pastries are not get it? I think it is funny myself.

T-Macgnolia said:
It is a poke at Android as all of Androids versions have had a name to do with pastry. You know Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, and now Honeycomb. It is just a way for Microsoft to make fun of Android publicly and not get sued for it lol. Look at the name of the next update, Mangoo which is a fruit. Fruit is suppose to be good for you and pastries are not get it? I think it is funny myself.
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It's reasonably common knowledge why MS called it NoDo, but the poster asked what it meant, which is nothing really - it could have been called 'charlie', 'R2D2' or 'Hon Lionel Prinkinville III' - it's just a means of identifying it rather than imparting information.

Gustopher said:
It's reasonably common knowledge why MS called it NoDo, but the poster asked what it meant, which is nothing really - it could have been called 'charlie', 'R2D2' or 'Hon Lionel Prinkinville III' - it's just a means of identifying it rather than imparting information.
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You are correct it is just a means of indentifing the update. But it is a poke at Android and that is the reason Microsoft named/identified it as NoDo. Therefore I equate the NoDo or No Donuts to mean that Microsoft thinks their Windows Phone 7 OS is better than Android. Thus making NoDo mean WP7 is better than Android. I guess it is all how each indevidual looks at it. I just find it very comicial and had to post that as VirtualRenzo obviously had no clue about it. Microsoft and their silly word games

Actually NoDo is a reference to a meeting where a microsoft employee forget to bring donuts when he was supposed to.. it was not a jibe at android.
A quick google will tell you that.

theguy said:
Actually NoDo is a reference to a meeting where a microsoft employee forget to bring donuts when he was supposed to.. it was not a jibe at android.
A quick google will tell you that.
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I did a quick google and found this. I also found this qouted straight from the search page.
Mar 22, 2011 … The name is a sarcastic reference to Android update that are all … I did not like the UI as it is bland and rather ugly. … US owners of Samsung's Galaxy S Vibrant didn't get Froyo until 8 …
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I could not find a article on the guy forgeting the donuts but I have read about that as well. But don't you think them making fun of that guy is where they got the idea to make fin of Android in the same way. But thos is not worth arguing about it is just a name. But the truth is the truth.

The link you posted said the following:
"rumors have it that windows new firmware name "No Do" is a punt for Androids "doughnut" firmware"
I highlighted the crucial word. The blogger, like you, is only guessing what it means.
Here is the official response by Charlie Kindel, a WP7 developer, via his twitter :
http://twitter.com/#!/ckindel/statuses/22498194759884800

theguy said:
The link you posted said the following:
"rumors have it that windows new firmware name "No Do" is a punt for Androids "doughnut" firmware"
I highlighted the crucial word. The blogger, like you, is only guessing what it means.
Here is the official response by Charlie Kindel, a WP7 developer, via his twitter :
http://twitter.com/#!/ckindel/statuses/22498194759884800
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...................... That is so funny
Do you really take that as proof?
That sounds more like someone covering their butt from lawsuites to me. Somthing somebody said on twitter give me a break.
AlsocI am no blogger never have been never will be. The only reason I sited that link and quote was because you told me to do a quick Google search so I did and that is what I got, ot toke all of like 1 minute to pull that up. I never had a MySpace page, I don't use facebook matter of fact can't stand facebook, and twitter is even worse of a joke and a falacie in my opinion. I don't want to read whatever someone wants to just vomit out, or something they are writting to try to look cool. I try to stay grounded in facts and not fantasy that the corperate world would like for people and strive for people to stay in. I mean really do you think they would publicly admit to the name NoDo being a slight of word against Android. That would be grounds for a huge corparate lawsuite, and maybe even cause Microsoft to lose ownership of therlir precious new OS as a outcome of the lawsuit. At minumal it would cost them a very large amount of money.
Why are people diffending Microsoft anyway? Microsoft has never been called a saint. But the fact still remains call it a rumor or not the truth is the truth. Especially when it is so obviouse that a blind man could see it.
Beleive what you want to beleive, and continue to be blind if you want. I originally posted in thos thread because I thought others might get a good laugh out of it just as I did but I guess I was wrong.

T-Macgnolia said:
I did a quick google and found this. I also found this qouted straight from the search page.
I could not find a article on the guy forgeting the donuts but I have read about that as well. But don't you think them making fun of that guy is where they got the idea to make fin of Android in the same way. But thos is not worth arguing about it is just a name. But the truth is the truth.
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Do people who ask these kinds of questions never heard of google nor searching the forums?

seems like a silly thing to argue about. "haha im right, you're wrong" *points finger menacingly* while the other shakes his fist in the air yelling "i'll get you"

hjhjhj said:
Do people who ask these kinds of questions never heard of google nor searching the forums?
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Ok seens you don't think I can use Google (which you are torally wrong) here is a little article I got by using Google. This article does more than just says it is rumored it breaks it down just a little more, and shows it is a direct link to Android with the name NoDo. Funny thing is it was the third link on the first page of links Google pulled up and all I had to type in was NoDo, hmmmmm!
Also you think I can not search XDA, wrong again check out these post from XDA. Link #1, Link #2, and Link #3 And best yet one from you showing you really did not know for sure yourself not long ago.
Also check the link in my sig about "Becoming more familiar with XDA"that is all about how to use search.

OMG GIUZE THIs Is serious buiznes. pleaze continu to argument abowt it. The futur ov fone developmeant is at steak. dis must bee rezolved.
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Ok seens you don't think I can use Google (which you are torally wrong) here is a little article I got by using Google. This article does more than just says it is rumored it breaks it down just a little more, and shows it is a direct link to Android with the name NoDo. Funny thing is it was the third link on the first page of links Google pulled up and all I had to type in was NoDo, hmmmmm!
Also you think I can not search XDA, wrong again check out these post from XDA. Link #1, Link #2, and Link #3 And best yet one from you showing you really did not know for sure yourself not long ago.
Also check the link in my sig about "Becoming more familiar with XDA"that is all about how to use search.
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Coming In 2012 is Microsoft Windows Phone 7 "STEAK" why steak? cause steak is F****NG GOOD!!

Unless they update to ManGo soon I think windows phone will go the way of the DoDo

I just wanted to point out that Froyo is Frozen Yogert... Don't forget Gingerbread and Icecream sandwich. Android is named after deserts. The Donut release was about 2.5 years ago... who runs that version?
The name nodo comes off as stupid when you realize they thought android was called pastries.

Contact Verizon

Does anyone have a link to where I could contact Verizon preferably through email? I have some very important questions that I need to ask them

Jmoney47 said:
Does anyone have a link to where I could contact Verizon preferably through email? I have some very important questions that I need to ask them
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how about you start at www.verizonwireless.com?

Oh really? Get tthe hell out of this forum if you're going to be like that. I posted that because I've spent about an hour searching that damn site and no matter what I try, I can't seem to get to an email link. So unless you have something helpful to post get off this forum

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Oh really? Get tthe hell out of this forum if you're going to be like that. I posted that because I've spent about an hour searching that damn site and no matter what I try, I can't seem to get to an email link. So unless you have something helpful to post get off this forum
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Try this https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/contact/email.jsp

You could also try [email protected]

Jmoney47 said:
Oh really? Get tthe hell out of this forum if you're going to be like that. I posted that because I've spent about an hour searching that damn site and no matter what I try, I can't seem to get to an email link. So unless you have something helpful to post get off this forum
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Please don't feed the trolls. While poorly put, he does have a point... this was pretty easy to find.
Speaking of which - you need to navigate to that address manually, so:
1. verizonwireless.com
2. 'Contact us' link in top link bar (small, blue)
3. 'send an email' box (left side)
4. select the appropriate account type and click the arrow
6. 'send an email' box (lower left hand corner)
7. fill the form and send

Jmoney47 said:
Oh really? Get tthe hell out of this forum if you're going to be like that. I posted that because I've spent about an hour searching that damn site and no matter what I try, I can't seem to get to an email link. So unless you have something helpful to post get off this forum
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I can't tell you how many times I've seen you tell somebody, "search is your friend," instead of giving them helpful information as well.

www22(dot)verizon(dot)com/customersupport/contactus

Telling people to search is good. It stops them from posting more stupid questions. Unless you were looking for some secret email address that cannot be found easily on the website....

zwade01 said:
I can't tell you how many times I've seen you tell somebody, "search is your friend," instead of giving them helpful information as well.
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In case you can't read, I CLEARLY stated that I had been searching their site and Google for about an hour.
I have been to the contact us page, I selected the most appropriate option I could find, and the site said that email support was not available for this category.
For the person who provided the email, thank you I will try that
If it helps, I want to ask them to clarify part of the terms of service regarding reasons they can discontinue service

I agree & if u have to spend an hour of ur life searching google on how 2 email verizon... I'm sorry throw ur phone away... I'm suddenly angry @ur parents
sent from the DX

taterDX said:
I agree & if u have to spend an hour of ur life searching google on how 2 email verizon... I'm sorry throw ur phone away... I'm suddenly angry @ur parents
sent from the DX
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Now that os just disrespectful and completely unnecessary. If you do not have a helpful comment, go to a thread where you have one. Let me reiterate what I said earlier because you obviously didn't read anything I said except that one little part.
I go to Verizon's website, I select contact us, I select email and the most appropriate option and I am told that email support is not available for that type of question.
After google'ing how to contact Verizon, I get the www22 page that was also provided in this thread by someone who actually is here to help not be a jerkoff. When going through the categories on this site, I discovered that this was for everything but mobile phone service such as internet, home phone, fios, and the other services provided.
Now since you obviously know exactly what to do, why don't you just share it with the community instead of being an asshole about someone's question?