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developers knock yourself out ? (or is it out yet ?)

Hai everyone,
Today i looked at a clip from a iphone with a great app.....
the screen looks (damned whats the word of this...) online translators says "bay"
anyway, i looked with the search option but could not find it, so when its already here i apologize...
the clip http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/348731/de1548cf/beslagen_iphone.html

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This is pretty cool +1
Maybe we could integrate it into s2u2 or as a screen saver?

How the f***??? That's the perfect app for locking our screen!!!

u got my donation for this one

Wow! Can confirm this is completely SFW as opposed to a previous suggestion.

wow this is very cool.

No developer interested in this challenge ??

It's a stupid app that serves no purpose. Kind of like 90% of the IPhone apps on the market... No wonder none of us want anything to do with this crap

hahaha... imagine unlocking by this method when you want to do something fast (check what's the time, write a SMS message, check timetables, etc.)...
It would be like that:
Actual action - 1 minute
Unlocking - about three
And don't forget Diamond has no multitouch so you would have to do it with single finger. Have fun

NRGZ28 said:
It's a stupid app that serves no purpose. Kind of like 90% of the IPhone apps on the market... No wonder none of us want anything to do with this crap
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I second that comment... lets file this thread under "iCrap"

NRGZ28 said:
It's a stupid app that serves no purpose. Kind of like 90% of the IPhone apps on the market... No wonder none of us want anything to do with this crap
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Said by the guy who lives in Las Vegas, Romania Why does everything have to have a purpose? Life can be fun too ya know, sometimes it's good just to take time out and do "useless", fun things I think this would be fun to have on a Windows Mobile Phone, but that's my opinion.

NRGZ28 said:
It's a stupid app that serves no purpose. Kind of like 90% of the IPhone apps on the market... No wonder none of us want anything to do with this crap
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when you look on your Diamond 90% of the apps are bs, its just making your phone more fun.
"No wonder none of us want anything to do with this crap"
so your the spokesman of all developers here ?

NRGZ28 said:
It's a stupid app that serves no purpose. Kind of like 90% of the IPhone apps on the market... No wonder none of us want anything to do with this crap
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Dont forget the crappy "soft music" on the vid.

Sergio PC said:
Dont forget the crappy "soft music" on the vid.
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O please, only reply if your "message" is usefull. Dont post your crappy comment...

californiarailroader said:
Said by the guy who lives in Las Vegas, Romania Why does everything have to have a purpose? Life can be fun too ya know, sometimes it's good just to take time out and do "useless", fun things I think this would be fun to have on a Windows Mobile Phone, but that's my opinion.
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There is no Las Vegas in Romania.. What the hell does my location have to do with anything ?!

sandeman11 said:
when you look on your Diamond 90% of the apps are bs, its just making your phone more fun.
"No wonder none of us want anything to do with this crap"
so your the spokesman of all developers here ?
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I don't have any "bs" apps on my phone ( I have a touch Pro, if you bothered to check my signature). Maybe you do! I actually use every application on my phone for something.

What's with all the bashing in this thread? Everyone is a different user. Get over it!
This looks pretty cool and I'd like to see this on my Diamond, that's for sure...

I just find it funny that some user noobs (members and under) like myself try and stand up to NRGZ and Sergio whom both have published many apps which i currently have, and use on my phone. I side with them, they are spending their time programing way better programs for our abuse, not wasting their time for a trivial screen lock when theres a handful of locking applications out there.

just my two penneth!
this app is just plain silly useless fun! if it makes folk laugh then its worth it!

K'Nees said:
I just find it funny that some user noobs (members and under) like myself try and stand up to NRGZ and Sergio whom both have published many apps which i currently have, and use on my phone. I side with them, they are spending their time programing way better programs for our abuse, not wasting their time for a trivial screen lock when theres a handful of locking applications out there.
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Well, you know what:
Those "very superb developers" that love to do IMPORTANT things, can do so...
But I guess, either they have a lot of time to spend (and they have already finished whatever they've been working on) or lack the skills/knowledge/etc (whatever, I dunno, I'm not a programmer/developer), so that they can come and comment very non-creatively on something that they don't value. But, it would be better if they just didn't post their negative ideas... Those, really don't help. If someone doesn't want to spend his time on it, then he wouldn't. That includes posting comments only with nonsense/crap/BS... (It would be helpful to hear professional opinions on why that wouldn't work/be coded, though)
Short version: If you push that reply button with an undeniable urge to comment on something, wait on it, it will pass. If you have something to say, it would be more than welcome. That's my motto. (I'm saying this here, because I'm sick of all the negative approach I've seen on this site... Wow, enough for moon!)
And, I would love to see that kind of app on my Diamond too.
PS: iBoobs was the same. Every guy that
a) lacked the skills to code it
b) thought he knew all better than everyone
c) just thought/felt different
d) was pretending to be a very hard business-man
shunned it, declared it was nonsense...
Eventually, hdWobble was released, and it's by far one of the most exciting apps I'd have on my Diamond.

kkruse, I see in your sig you're running your own custom Kernel

What's it customized to do?

thread; the new pm
this ain't twitter

lock this please....

wow I thought this might be relevant to other people's interests. If you don't like the thread don't click on it.
you're not junior mods that get threads locked at your request so gtfo.

LOl Hilarious

akijikan said:
wow I thought this might be relevant to other people's interests. If you don't like the thread don't click on it.
you're not junior mods that get threads locked at your request so gtfo.
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not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
not a topic asking a specific person a specific question :facepalm:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
make your own kernel

johnsongrantr said:
not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
not a topic asking a specific person a specific question :facepalm:
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facepalm yourself, there's nothing wrong with asking a specific person a question in a topic. You obviously don't care for the thread and you have nothing to add to it so stop posting in it just to thread crap.
david279 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
make your own kernel
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Thanks, I already know how to do that though. This thread was started to ask if kkruse might share with us what he did since it might be useful to incorporate into our own kernels.

akijikan said:
facepalm yourself, there's nothing wrong with asking a specific person a question in a topic. You obviously don't care for the thread and you have nothing to add to it so stop posting in it just to thread crap.
Thanks, I already know how to do that though.
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You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard

johnsongrantr said:
You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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I'm not going to pay the time you wasted trying to bully me into doing things your way. Sorry you choose to see that as moronic.

johnsongrantr said:
You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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Wow... The pot calling the kettle black... You are just as retarded.. You're arguing like a little *****.. Shut your mouth... Leave the guy alone. If you don't like the thread, forget it exists..
It is not yours, nor anyone else's to say anything.. A forum is made to voice any concerns whatsoever that the users feel necessary... For you to reply as aggressively as you did, doesn't make your forum rep jump up, you actually just end up making yourself look like a bigger **** than we all already think you are...
Every time I see one of your posts, I wish you would just leave the community...
Maybe its below your asshole tolerance level, but he has every right to post whatever he wants. Go troll somewhere else.
Now, back to the original topic OP.....

^ heard that..what rom is this kat running with the kernal darch's 2.1?

johnsongrantr said:
not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
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It's 'ESPECIALLY'. There's no X in that word. Also 'relevance' not 'relevence'. I'm certain I'm missing one or two there, but this was just a quick glance. Since you seem to be all over propriety, I suggest learning to spell before criticizing others.
I like these forums, but GOD I'm getting sick of the self proclaimed topic police around here. The guy asked a legitimate question. There was no reason to jump all over him for it.

LUL
LUL
this is funny

I am not here to agree with johnson's approach to this thread but I have to agree that this thread should not have been created in such forum. PM's are exactly how you communicate with other members and if after PMing said Member, he received info that he felt relevant to the forum, then he should post it. Just starting a thread to ask someone something like that is just a little much.

Loud noises!!!!

I am just tired of threads like this... then people backing up the justification of it being there.... then people going after the ones that get on the ones that post stupid sh*t like this....
I've been reading xda for a very long time and it just goes on and on and on, but this particular handheld seems to attract a butt load of self richous know nothings... and not noobs.. but know nothings... the retard to technical person ratio is just totally f*cked currently, makes me want to go back to hacking winmo phones or something, at least there the idiots let you know they were idiots up front.
and I don't give a big flying f if I can spell or not.. that is the weakest type of argument ever... you obvioulsy know what I'm saying... so I don't really care if you correct me or leave it be, it makes you sound as pompous as you are suggesting I am is all.
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@azyouthinkeyeiz I can be the biggest asshole on the face of the planet if I want... I can care less if you or anyone else likes me or not, a knowledgeable person is a knowledgeable person. My job and/or goal here isn't to make friends, it's to learn and to share knowledge. I can dish out whatever info I see fit however I see fit, you don't like it... tough sh*t

Bielinsk said:
Loud noises!!!!
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I love lamp.

johnsongrantr said:
I am just tired of threads like this... then people backing up the justification of it being there.... then people going after the ones that get on the ones that post stupid sh*t like this....
I've been reading xda for a very long time and it just goes on and on and on, but this particular handheld seems to attract a butt load of self richous know nothings... and not noobs.. but know nothings... the retard to technical person ratio is just totally f*cked currently, makes me want to go back to hacking winmo phones or something, at least there the idiots let you know they were idiots up front.
and I don't give a big flying f if I can spell or not.. that is the weakest type of argument ever... you obvioulsy know what I'm saying... so I don't really care if you correct me or leave it be, it makes you sound as pompous as you are suggesting I am is all.
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@azyouthinkeyeiz I can be the biggest asshole on the face of the planet if I want... I can care less if you or anyone else likes me or not, a knowledgeable person is a knowledgeable person. My job and/or goal here isn't to make friends, it's to learn and to share knowledge. I can dish out whatever info I see fit however I see fit, you don't like it... tough sh*t
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How ironic that you tried to paint me as the 5 year old in the equation.
I'm here for the same thing, the sharing and development of knowledge surrounding this phone, and this thread as it was started (don't think the same could be said now) met that end in a direct manner.
The only one acting self-righteous though is you.

akijikan said:
The only one acting self-righteous though is you.
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given... but at least I know my sh*t

i just don't get it?

you know i was just reviewing the tp2 section of xda, the android section i should say. i see they have a port of ubutnu for the phone now. i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?

fixxxer2008 said:
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?
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For anybody that doesn't want to have to read this sentence 10 times to understand it, here's a punctuated and readable version:
If I were a Touch Pro 2 owner, and I actually was for a very brief period, I'd want a full port of Android, much like the Vogue users had.

I don't get what you are trying to say....
@ubuntu, the TP2 has a physical keyboard so ubuntu would be much more practical then on the hero.
@android port for TP2, ummmmm who cares about the TP2? I used dzo's android port for a long time and I greatly respect everything that they have accomplished. It truly is amazing.

I agree.
fixxxer2008 said:
you know i was just reviewing the tp2 section of xda, the android section i should say. i see they have a port of ubutnu for the phone now. i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?
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The sole reason I didn't get the TP2 was the fact it was running WinMo.
WinMo has to be the worst phone UI ever, why the heck would anyone want to use a stylus to navigate the UI. Nevermind the fact I've never heard one positive review of Windows Mobile as far as speed was concerned.
-Mike

if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able
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For anybody that doesn't want to have to read this sentence 10 times to understand it, here's a punctuated and readable version:
If I were a Touch Pro 2 owner, and I actually was for a very brief period, I'd want a full port of Android, much like the Vogue users had.
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I only read it 7 times.

sorry i was sick as hell yesterday and still am. thanks mr grammar nazi's!
my point was having a port of ubuntu is stupid IMO, id rather have a fully working android port that could be flashed to nand like the vogue users have. got it now?

I dunno if I had a TP2 and then upgraded to something else but still had my old TP2 laying around. I would most likely put something like ubuntu on it for ****s and giggles.

fixxxer,
wow, you've graduated from useless personal opinion posts to starting whole new useless personal opinion threads. Way to go man, you're really making progress. Congratulations.
I might have a couple ideas as to why someone would attempt to run ubuntu, debian or just about anything else on their phone:
1. just because
2. it's a challenge just to see if you can do it
3. It's fun
4. did I mention "just because"
Just a heads up: your frustration over not having the skills to do these things yourself is showing...muffintop

nebenezer said:
fixxxer,
wow, you've graduated from useless personal opinion posts to starting whole new useless personal opinion threads. Way to go man, you're really making progress. Congratulations.
I might have a couple ideas as to why someone would attempt to run ubuntu, debian or just about anything else on their phone:
1. just because
2. it's a challenge just to see if you can do it
3. It's fun
4. did I mention "just because"
Just a heads up: your frustration over not having the skills to do these things yourself is showing...muffintop
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what crawled up your ass? what just because i posted an opinion about that app you helped create? the point of a message board is to create, help and debate. all i did was give an opinion, there is no reason for you to get all worked up. it's not like i said it was useless.

Actually, man, if you leave out the first and last paragraphs and just read his list, he answered your question perfectly. The fact that you don't get it says s lot. This is, at its base, a community of hackers (or hacker wannabes, like me). Half the reason we do ANYTHING with our phones is because we can. Just for the sheer unadulterated HELL OF IT! Kinda like choosing to do themes the hard way yourself, rather than using metamorph. The fact that some of what we do makes our phones more functional is sometimes almost secondary to the feeling of having got your hands dirty and done something yourself. It is the same thing that drives people to DIY rather than just buying the finished product at the store...even when you might have saved a buck and some time just dropping the cash.

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what crawled up your ass? what just because i posted an opinion about that app you helped create? the point of a message board is to create, help and debate. all i did was give an opinion, there is no reason for you to get all worked up. it's not like i said it was useless.
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"didnt say regaw's toolbox was useless" either, did you? I'm tired of seeing the same old crap from you already. Every time I see your name on a post I jump past it, every thread you own I skip, for the sole reason of not feeling like reading useless BS

jerry43812 said:
"didnt say regaw's toolbox was useless" either, did you? I'm tired of seeing the same old crap from you already. Every time I see your name on a post I jump past it, every thread you own I skip, for the sole reason of not feeling like reading useless BS
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Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.

sandboxlove said:
i know its lame, but dont people still follow if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything atall? i lurked for 2 months before i joined because i was scared people would be rude to me for asking questions/expressing opinions. xda doesnt have a bad name, only the cdma hero section. every other portal, every other FORUM, people never act like some of the people here. i think most of the people here are teenagers or lonely old men, which would explain alot.
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I'm beginning to think that too.

alright guys lets ton it down, i don't need all of my threads locked because neb is on the rag today. lets just forget it. i swear sometimes this site lives up to it's bad name.

smoother2010 said:
Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.
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settle down man, i don't need you defending me. thanks but your thoughts are not mine. yes neb misunderstood what i said but let it go.

In an attempt to bring this thread back around to topic and stop some of the bickering:
The reasons I see for doing something like installing Debian or Ubuntu on a phone are pretty simple:
1. To see what is possible
2. To find out what your are capable of
3. To find out what the device is capable of
4. To do something that no one else around you has done
In other words, why not?

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In an attempt to bring this thread back around to topic and stop some of the bickering:
The reasons I see for doing something like installing Debian or Ubuntu on a phone are pretty simple:
1. To see what is possible
2. To find out what your are capable of
3. To find out what the device is capable of
4. To do something that no one else around you has done
In other words, why not?
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im not dissing it per say but i think a full port of android would be better. i know they pretty much abandoned android for ubuntu and there was quite a few people upset.

smoother2010 said:
Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.
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Quit trolling this dude's threads? he dont mean a damn thing to me, and neither do you, but his actions as well as yours are uncalled for including trolling other peoples threads claiming the stuff they spend countless hours on is "useless"
join after I do but post more than I? who be the troll here, sweetie?
Have a good night.

I honestly don't know any of the background details of what was going on in the TP2 forum. This is what i was responding to:
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i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
get what im trying to say?
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Sometimes the purpose is the trip not the destination. That's how I feel about hacking our phones, anyway. 90% of the time, I don't really need to be able to access my desktop and take control of it through VNC, but the fact that I can makes me really happy. I don't need to be able to stream HD movies on my phone, but the fact that I will be able to with the evo has me excited. What color flashes on the screen when i tap an app doesn't really make a flying fvck in the long run, but I like the glassy blue, so I rip into every rom I download and change it. To me, that is the why that answers your initial question. To someone for whom the end functionality is the ultimate goal, the this may not make any sense, but to someone else who enjoys the process of creation and tinkering, the opposite might be true. And in a community of devs and hackers, i think you are likely to find as many or more of the latter than the former.

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Effin Scammers!!!!

Look at this guy trying to make a buck off the dev's hard work!! 50 bucks a phone!!! Hes offering his "skill and time" to "make a living"!!!
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/mob/1895644500.html

HAHAH yeah I just read that post, some people just have the nerves to put out such bussiness. But what can we say? What about all of the other people charging others to jailbreak their iphone?

1quickturbosix said:
Look at this guy trying to make a buck off the dev's hard work!! 50 bucks a phone!!! Hes offering his "skill and time" to "make a living"!!!
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/mob/1895644500.html
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you should totally report him saying something about the fact that its ILLEGAL to profit off of freeware such as android and the like

How low can you go...........
Jeez,what can we do about it?

There's already a thread for this...

Lol....everyone should spam him with texts. If running android use sms bomber.

Mod close this thread please as its already up,don't need another.
Cheers
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I wish the people on craigslist and ebay knew how to use google.
Look at this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160465048336&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
It looks like he has the stock rom too, so it'll probably have robot voice problems. So he's basically getting $100+ more for putting files on an SD card.

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you should totally report him saying something about the fact that its ILLEGAL to profit off of freeware such as android and the like
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really? I'd like for you to show me the law where such a thing is mentioned.
I'm not defending the guy, but i hate seeing people talk law w/o a clue.
Android is not freeware. under the Apache license, android can be redistributed for profit, even the gpl parts (kernel, webkit) can be sold as a completed work given that you provide the buyer the source for the affected parts (source that was gpl and it's derivative works).
it'sthe reason htc can claim copyright infringement on people posting ports of their builds but still have to release kernel sources.
besides, this guy is selling a service, not source. if the makers of haret made a provision that it can't be included in such a service then they could sue, until then, this is something that is sleazy, but legal.

(whispers) dude play along! come on

kingofyo1 said:
(whispers) dude play along! come on
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lol .............

I would not be surprised at all if the people profitting from these android OS is a user somewhere on this XDA forum. Youtube will pretty much teach people hwo to do this, gosh they are silly willing to spend 50 on a few minute job.

Segnaro said:
I wish the people on craigslist and ebay knew how to use google.
Look at this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160465048336&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
It looks like he has the stock rom too, so it'll probably have robot voice problems. So he's basically getting $100+ more for putting files on an SD card.
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Whats wrong with that?
He is selling his phone with a few extra bits and peices. At least he is upfront about what it is and where it comes from.
The bloke on Craigslist is selling his time to put the files on the SD card, big deal. Some people don't know how to do it so he is filling the hole.
Seriously guys, don't you have better things to do?

the title of this thread should be .........."im hating on people"

So what's with all the crying on XDA's EVO threads lately?

I remember the good ol days when people just dropped by, downloaded some stuff, left nice comments and went about their day. Lately, bout the last month or so, the threads have been filled with "I donated a dollar, I want my ROM" or "can I get an ETA on this?" (which is the rudest question I've ever seen here) or just people arguing or one-upping each other. I fear we're losing the community-based friendliness of this site as the days go along.
As we can see, a few devs have had enough and already left. How much longer is everyone gonna keep this up? It's like I visited XDA one day and it turned into an AOL n00b forum. It sucks. I want the old XDA back where people didn't cry about CM missing deadlines (they just visited again later and if a new CM was up they were happy, if not they just came back later), people didn't complain about Damageless losing his job and having to focus on his life instead of ours, people simply enjoyed what was available instead of hounding devs about when stuff is coming out.... I must say it'll be released when it's released!
I just don't understand what's so difficult about giving those who give us the time of our lives time to breathe and enjoy their lives too. It shouldn't matter whether a "donation" of a $1 or $1000 is made - the devs (and some of the senior members, shucks, even like me) deserve a lot more respect than what's going around lately. At the end of the day, I just don't want to suffer for following the rules when others decide to wreck it for the rest of us.
Anyway, I just had to rant. I still <3 XDA and always will. This place really has changed my life forever.

That is very well said. Devs should be praised not hounded.

annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.

DomSim said:
annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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lol ok you got me

LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.

Noiro said:
LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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That's a great way to put it. Didn't think about it like that.

DomSim said:
annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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hahaha I knew that was coming from someone.... Hey it is what it is... this place is packed full of redundant and repetitive questions but what ya gonna do...

Noiro said:
LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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Everyone was a noob at some point. Don't let that be used as an excuse for bad forum behavior.
Sent from my HTC Evo using XDA App

I have seen this before with Forums as the user-base grows and popularity increases, which Android brought many non technical users into the smartphone era, your impatient/arrogant/immature user-base grows as well and since they are still learning how things work but want it now since this is the era of entitlement your gonna get alot of asshats wanting there ROM now or there FIX now. It sucks but It happens.

One thing about XDA is its never been that user friendly or at least as long as I have been here. Seems like a few people come here just to be assholes. They know everything and even if you agree with them they will still act like dicks. With that said I try to stay out of those situations. Sit back in my thread and sometime comment on topics. Sorry but its true.
Try it, post something in the wrong thread by accident and see what happens.

P_Dub_S said:
I have seen this before with Forums as the user-base grows and popularity increases, which Android brought many non technical users into the smartphone era, your impatient/arrogant/immature user-base grows as well and since they are still learning how things work but want it now since this is the era of entitlement your gonna get alot of asshats wanting there ROM now or there FIX now. It sucks but It happens.
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This. The Evo was the first time that an android device really blew up with the non-technical crowd, and of course XDA has a reputation, so all of the new users came here. Unfortunanly, they don't really understand what it means to be a member of a development community though, and look at XDA like it's just another smartphone forum.
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One thing about XDA is its never been that user friendly or at least as long as I have been here. Seems like a few people come here just to be assholes. They know everything and even if you agree with them they will still act like dicks. With that said I try to stay out of those situations. Sit back in my thread and sometime comment on topics. Sorry but its true.
Try it, post something in the wrong thread by accident and see what happens.
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This is true, but back then people just took it in stride. Also, people have gotten a lot less militant about posting in the wrong threads. Back in june/july though, it was rough. And god forbid you didn't search first...

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This. The Evo was the first time that an android device really blew up with the non-technical crowd, and of course XDA has a reputation, so all of the new users came here. Unfortunanly, they don't really understand what it means to be a member of a development community though, and look at XDA like it's just another smartphone forum.
This is true, but back then people just took it in stride. Also, people have gotten a lot less militant about posting in the wrong threads. Back in june/july though, it was rough. And god forbid you didn't search first...
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I lightened up my statement a bit.. its not a lot just a select few.
I've been guilty of wrong thread bashing myself it can be kinda fun. All depends on how out of place the topic is.

P_dub_S has it right. the market just expanded so much for androids. its like when blackberry came out with the Pearl and every teenage girl had one lol... most of the new phones arnt owned by tech people. hopefully in the fallowing months they will calm down. stil think the best forum was the xda section for the eris im just happy to have a phone lol so dont mind me

Most people just don't see how hard it is to make some of this stuff work. People must think that making roms/themes/kernels is just a bunch of copying and pasting or something...one thing that bugs the living hell out of me is on those Desire HD port threads...if the OP doesn't respond in 3 days, they just bump it saying something like "Well...I guess this is dead..." Devs ain't robots, something wrong with these people...

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Most people just don't see how hard it is to make some of this stuff work. People must think that making roms/themes/kernels is just a bunch of copying and pasting or something...one thing that bugs the living hell out of me is on those Desire HD port threads...if the OP doesn't respond in 3 days, they just bump it saying something like "Well...I guess this is dead..." Devs ain't robots, something wrong with these people...
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Exactly. What people don't understand is this is a hobby. We are not making a living doing this, and I do not get paid for this. Yes its true that we do receive donations but not NEARLY as many as I think people assume.

imho...these forums which used to be filled with great developers turned into a forums filled with the developers wanting compensation or in prettier words "beer money" for their time and effort instead of "joy and fun" or "hobby" of making roms and is slowly becoming more "pay-to-play" and if you don't pay, they take their business elsewhere to their own "pay-to-play" forums....just my own observation going from windows mobile development to android....

phistyle said:
imho...these forums which used to be filled with great developers turned into a forums filled with the developers wanting compensation or in prettier words "beer money" for their time and effort instead of "joy and fun" or "hobby" of making roms and is slowly becoming more "pay-to-play" and if you don't pay, they take their business elsewhere to their own "pay-to-play" forums....just my own observation going from windows mobile development to android....
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Not doubting you, but I'm curious (because I don't frequent other forums, or noticed anyone leaving), who took their "business" elsewhere, and where did they take it? I haven't really seen that - those donation links in the sigs have been around forever...

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Not doubting you, but I'm curious (because I don't frequent other forums, or noticed anyone leaving), who took their "business" elsewhere, and where did they take it? I haven't really seen that - those donation links in the sigs have been around forever...
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He is correct I have seen a few developers take their ROMs elsewhere (create their own website) but I'm not sure it was about money. I have donated to a few chiefs because I understand the time that goes into making these ROMs. Its time I could be spending with my kids. People seems to feel chiefs are obligated to do this for some reason. I do it because I like it not because I want to get paid. I get paid at work. When people complain at you all the time it turns it into work and then it isn't fun anymore.

Screw all of you....I payed my turkey sandwich and a hooker! I want my damn daily updates with a rom so spectacular that it will make me a full course meal.
Of course im playing but i cant help but agree with you. I find that i spend more time sorting through "non searchers" than anything else. I hope to see this calm down over the next year. Good thing about this is that people will only get smarter and simmer down....My car forums(g35driver.com) is getting worse as the car gets cheaper. More kids and ridiculousness.

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Screw all of you....I payed my turkey sandwich and a hooker! I want my damn daily updates with a rom so spectacular that it will make me a full course meal.
Of course im playing but i cant help but agree with you. I find that i spend more time sorting through "non searchers" than anything else. I hope to see this calm down over the next year. Good thing about this is that people will only get smarter and simmer down....My car forums(g35driver.com) is getting worse as the car gets cheaper. More kids and ridiculousness.
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that's where you are wrong...sure "some" people may get smarter, but for every person that gets smarter, 5 more noobs are sure to follow...