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Are You Bored of your HD2?

My phone history is no small list i've tried pretty much everything out there From N97, to Blackberry 9700... HD2 cought my eye because i originally had the HD, however it seems that i'm getting the itch to move on to possibly the N900 or E72
Anyways just wondering what your experiences have been like with your device, and what are your most cool applications?

I change phones quite often too. My last phone in fact was a N900. Great phone yet I felt it was a bit slow. So far I am loving the hd2 and don't have plans to switch for quite some time. With every phone there was always something that bothered me. I thought Windows mobile would be it but so far it has been great. My only past issue was with a touch diamond being a bit sluggish, this hd2 definitely does not have that problem.
I could possibly see a jump to the N900, but an E72 (used to own an E71)?! No way. Using symbian is like jumping through a time warp to the past.

i know im lil off topic but i feel you guys on never finding perfect phone before one i got now. I dont mean to push android on WM guys but other then lil lag sometimes its been best phone for me.

It's gonna take a real monster of a phone for me to even think about considering getting rid of my HD2.
I've never been as happy with a phone as I am with this, and I don't think I'll start having wandering eyes for a looooooooong time!

wait till Winmo 7 comes. I reckon it will be a real sweet OS
I also change phones quite often. I always loved my iphone 3GS, but the HD2 has kept my attention for a while now. It does everything my iphone used to do for me.
I think once Microsoft implements Xbox live games into winmo, we'll all be laughing!

I'll get bored when they have a dual core 1.5 GHz Snapdragon or Tegra 2 HD3 with WM7

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I'll get bored when they have a dual core 1.5 GHz Snapdragon or Tegra 2 HD3 with WM7
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And AT LEAST a 4.7" screen. lol - I wouldn't really want one that big, but I definitely don't want smaller!

johncmolyneux said:
And AT LEAST a 4.7" screen. lol - I wouldn't really want one that big, but I definitely don't want smaller!
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I wouldn't mind an even bigger screen. They could do it with the hd2 by removing the border around the lcd. Imagine nothing but screen corner to corner.

in the end it's still a phone.. doesn't have wheels or boobs..

The experience of the HD2 in most cases spoils you, and you will find it difficult to use a phone with a smaller screen. Apart from the earpiece quality at the higher frequencies, i am completly happy with this phone having owned about 10 different phones including iphone.

bel_z_bub said:
in the end it's still a phone.. doesn't have wheels or boobs..
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But I heard that on WM7 it will preform BJ's .

I must say, the HD2 is one of the best phone I came across.
I've worked over 2 years as the buyer for a multimedia chain and got the oppertunity to test drive a whole lot of device.
Also I'm using a ppc over 7 years now and untill the HD2 there were only 2 devices who have the "professional"/fun factor that the HD2 has.
And that was the Magician and the Universal.
Now I don't argue about the N900 because he has a "full" linux on it and for the linux guru's this is a wonderfull device. But if you aren't that good or fond in Linux then there is nothing special on the N900, and he is idd quite slow in normal use.
The other problem is that several years ago people did not compare a ppc with a normal phone (nokia symbian and etc...) but the mainstream users now also want a pcc thus the discussing is started... (certainly no personal blame meant)

I have no intentions of getting rid of the HD2 until there is a Nvidia Tegra powered platform available running WinMo7 with a screen equal to or bigger than the HD2.
The extra screen size compared to other mobiles on the market today really does make all the difference. I see people considering exchanging their HD2 for the Nexus One, but personally I find the screen a real letdown after being used to my HTC.
The one thing that does bug me about it is the low capacity battery included but, touch wood, so far I've managed to keep it running 24/7 by charging thru the night and every now and again in the car. Not enough of a let down for me to start looking at other handsets anyhow.

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The one thing that does bug me about it is the low capacity battery included but, touch wood, so far I've managed to keep it running 24/7 by charging thru the night and every now and again in the car. Not enough of a let down for me to start looking at other handsets anyhow.
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That is a serious battery drain, do you work so much on your device?
Eg I use my device constantly, 15 sms/day, 1 a 2hours phone, 30min surfing wifi and or hspda and I can do over a day and a half with one battery charge

This topics makes me laugh (not being offensive).
But it's pretty difficult to get bored of it. Of course we could have much more action on it but i'm sure in time we will have that also.

I cant see myself getting bored of the HTC HD2 anytime soon. Still got lots to do to it. Custom Roms, writing my own apps etc. Once i have it perfect then I will be using it until my contract runs out and i can get the latest super phone for free

Seeing as I have just discovered 800x480 encoding of 720p videos using WinMenc makes amazingly clear videos, and the demo of Electopia showing OpenGL 2.0 capabilities, I don't see myself getting bored any time soon.

thomas_pieps said:
That is a serious battery drain, do you work so much on your device?
Eg I use my device constantly, 15 sms/day, 1 a 2hours phone, 30min surfing wifi and or hspda and I can do over a day and a half with one battery charge
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Yeah, I use it constantly for the web and MSN (wifi/hsdpa/3g) as well as calls/sms. I could probably tweak it to last longer by disabling wifi/bluetooth etc when not connected but haven't found a good app to automate this yet.
Of course, once I find a 'cheap' car-cradle with built-in micro-usb (ie. put the phone in the cradle and it automatically starts charging - rather than fiddle around with cables and whatnot) the batterylife won't be a problem no more.

karkid said:
My phone history is no small list i've tried pretty much everything out there From N97, to Blackberry 9700... HD2 cought my eye because i originally had the HD, however it seems that i'm getting the itch to move on to possibly the N900 or E72
Anyways just wondering what your experiences have been like with your device, and what are your most cool applications?
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No where near board with it but as you've most likely tried everything there is for the HD2 why don't you list your best top 10 apps that you've tried and then we'll compare notes

For me the HD2 is my very first PocketPC/Smartphone. For me this phone is very powerful that it'll do fine for the coming years, if the phone can last that long. My only reason for switching to another phone is when the specs are at least equal to the one of the HD2, MUCH improved battery life and support of both capacative and resistive touch with adequate software and UI support. You can't get better than that. I'm not a gamer, so more power and a higher frequency is not necessarily my wish.

24 Hours w/a Nexus One

I just finished my 24 hour testing of the Nexus One for my employer and figured I would give my 2 cents worth:
1. On screen keyboard: Great, especially when used in landscape. Portrait has a bit more room side to side than the G1, and it makes it easier, but I wouldn't go so far to say in protrait it is a night and day difference. Landscape truly is, and I had no problem typing long messages in landscape mode, and using portrait for quick stuff. A physical keyboard is still a better option, IMO as a keyboard lover, but the onscreen is executed very, very well.
2. Speed/Android 2.1: I have tested some of the 2.1 ports on my G1, and as nice as they are, they do not give justice at all too what 2.1 is on a Nexus One. Blanket statement, the phone is faster and 2.1 is a great advancement. A more astute observation that I wasn't expecting, websites load much, much, much faster on the Nexus One. I didn't do an actual stop watch test, but a realistic guess says sites load about twice as fast. I am on an EDGE network where I do most of my surfing when not using WiFi... when on WiFi it was more dramatic (I actually loaded 1 site faster on the Nexus One than on my computer)
3. Stability: I tried my absolute best to slow it down and make it unstable. Couldn't do it. At one point in time, I had 23 apps open, the browser had 3 windows, I had youtube running, music, and so forth. Of course, several of the apps had to "reload" the last point I was at, but with this phone "reloading" is pretty much instant. The longest it ever took was one of the web pages had to re-download the content. I found that the phone's cache held my normal use just fine without ever having to reload.
4. Fit/Finish/Style: The phone has a very solid feel too, despite being very light in weight. Fits well in the hand, comfortable being used as a phone, and I got a lot of comments on it when I was out and about testing the "wow" factor (I was asked to go to a busy restaurant/bar and see how many people asked me about it). And, as odd as this might sound, being right handed the back button being on the far left was not a big deal, and I actually liked it's placement a lot since when I used it in landscape mode it was much more comfortable hitting it, and I think this is what they had in mind when they designed in like that.
5. Battery Life: Damn! That is all you need to know, Damn! I tried, really, really hard to push this to the max and see how fast I could run it down. I had WiFi and GPS both going, music playing, and was surfing the web as quick as possible, messing around with google maps taking a look at new and interesting places, and gave up. I used 80% of the battery in those 24 hours, but I was trying my best, for a little above typical usage it only went down 20% from 9AM-5PM. My G1 is usually about 60% gone over that period.
6. Conclusion: I am someone that pretty much demands a physical keyboard for me to even think about buying a phone. I am getting a Nexus One as soon as they become available through the company I work for. My manager is a BB addict, and she said as soon as we get it she is switching as well. That is a huge statement, her daily phone is a BB 9700, she texts and writes most of her emails from her phone, and the Nexus One out performed her BB 9700. She was using the google voice service to write, but she said out of all the texts and emails she wrote using it she didn't have a single typo!

Thank you for making my poverty that much more depressing.

cloverdale said:
Thank you for making my poverty that much more depressing.
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lmao i second that!
But seriously, great review!!

cloverdale said:
Thank you for making my poverty that much more depressing.
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I third that
But excellent review by the way (especially on the battery usage!)

cloverdale said:
Thank you for making my poverty that much more depressing.
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Too right, mate!

erlern said:
I third that
But excellent review by the way (especially on the battery usage!)
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Your welcome! I will say, if you check out the Nexus One forum opinions differ on battery life, but those saying it isn't good enough or are having issues with it not lasting long enough seem to have something off IMO.
I would say, with my normal usage, I could get 2 days of use on a full battery. Doing power use to the max I would get a full day. The only way I see this phone not lasting an entire day is if you are surfing the web, playing music, and using GPS non-stop type thing.

i seriously want a nexus so #$#[email protected]#$ bad its insane. but i cant afford it. being 18 sucks

no, being 14 and wanting a new android device sucks

hiddengopher said:
no, being 14 and wanting a new android device sucks
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That it does...........

hiddengopher said:
no, being 14 and wanting a new android device sucks
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I know, its so hard to get enough when your parents wont buy it for you.
And being to young for a job doesnt exactly help either.

Hard Decision: Blackberry 9700 Or HD 2

I Dont Know What Path To Go Down. Both Of These are Powerhouses And Can Hold Their Own Weight. Im Looking For A Real Reliable Phone That Will Stop Me From Constantly Upgrading Or Trading. Can Someone Help Me? Thanks. All Opinions Are Welcome.

both about the same its down to personal preference

charlieb620 said:
I Dont Know What Path To Go Down. Both Of These are Powerhouses And Can Hold Their Own Weight. Im Looking For A Real Reliable Phone That Will Stop Me From Constantly Upgrading Or Trading. Can Someone Help Me? Thanks. All Opinions Are Welcome.
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I have a HD2 as my personal phone and a Bold 9000 as a work phone.
I must admit, I'm not personally a fan of the Bold, the OS seems to have been designed to mimic the iPhone's layout, but without the touch screen, its a bit of a chore navigating.
The Bold's battery life isn't anywhere near the previous BB I had, and I'm lucky to get a few days out of it (it sits in my office, just doing push-email in sleep mode, not used otherwise as its not got the same 'fluid feel' to it as the HD2), the HD2 gets hammered each and every day and I get a good 1.5 - 2 days out of it.
But, as World705 said, its pretty much down to personal preference from there.

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I have a HD2 as my personal phone and a Bold 9000 as a work phone.
I must admit, I'm not personally a fan of the Bold, the OS seems to have been designed to mimic the iPhone's layout, but without the touch screen, its a bit of a chore navigating.
The Bold's battery life isn't anywhere near the previous BB I had, and I'm lucky to get a few days out of it (it sits in my office, just doing push-email in sleep mode, not used otherwise as its not got the same 'fluid feel' to it as the HD2), the HD2 gets hammered each and every day and I get a good 1.5 - 2 days out of it.
But, as World705 said, its pretty much down to personal preference from there.
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So You Find Your HD2 More Reliable Than The 9700?

charlieb620 said:
So You Find Your HD2 More Reliable Than The 9700?
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Reliable in terms of switching on, or making calls/messaging/general operation?
Both work fine to be honest, I just prefer the HD2 as I find the navigation on BBs a bit of a chore.

The only thing that could be improved is the battery life on the HD2.
I've got a curve 8900 and a HD2.
I like the push messages from the BB. But I like the HD2 as an everyday use phone its so much better and much more smooth to use.
The BB OS is out dated, even the latest os5 is kinda boring, it does the trick but still. The app store on BB is slow and apps are expensive.
The HD2 is still awesome in my book, I just wish it had a better battery and push services (apart from just windows live email).
I love this community though, you can find alot of useful info and apps on this forum.

rp-x1 said:
Reliable in terms of switching on, or making calls/messaging/general operation?
Both work fine to be honest, I just prefer the HD2 as I find the navigation on BBs a bit of a chore.
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As In A Everyday Phone? Email, Online, Battery Life? Battery Life Is My Main Thing. I Find That WM Battery Life Isnt Good. I Have The TP2 Now. I Constantly Charge As Where When I Had Blackberry I Charged Every 2 Days.

charlieb620 said:
As In A Everyday Phone? Email, Online, Battery Life? Battery Life Is My Main Thing. I Find That WM Battery Life Isnt Good. I Have The TP2 Now. I Constantly Charge As Where When I Had Blackberry I Charged Every 2 Days.
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As I said, my BB barely lasts a few days and thats literally just sat on my desk with push mail. Not used.
The HD2 lasts a good 1.5 to 2 days without charge (the first couple of weeks my HD2 would last about a day, then performance improved to almost double) and I pretty much use it constantly for texting, email (3 x pop3 accounts checked every 15 mins) and online browsing.

wotsreallygood said:
The only thing that could be improved is the battery life on the HD2.
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And a good stylos.
Hope HTC can/will read this.
eshd

eshd said:
And a good stylos.
Hope HTC can/will read this.
eshd
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Its been designed to be used with a finger. Why do you want a stylus?

What's With The Capitalisation Of Every Word? Lol
I'd say the main thing you've got to consider is the keyboard. I think it's a fair comment that a BB user trying to transition to a HD2 will struggle at first. Hell, I struggled coming from a Touch HD, but I got used to it and it was worth it. I now prefer the on-screen keyboard over a hardware one. But that's just me.

rp-x1 said:
Its been designed to be used with a finger. Why do you want a stylus?
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For drawings, small icons and list-boxes,
for selecting exakt coordinates on a map, ... ,
and for using internet pages.
eshd

johncmolyneux said:
What's With The Capitalisation Of Every Word? Lol
I'd say the main thing you've got to consider is the keyboard. I think it's a fair comment that a BB user trying to transition to a HD2 will struggle at first. Hell, I struggled coming from a Touch HD, but I got used to it and it was worth it. I now prefer the on-screen keyboard over a hardware one. But that's just me.
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I had the same coming from the X1, but to be honest, I won't be looking back.

Its A Habit. Lol. But I Have The Universal And The Touch Pro 2 Now. Im Selling Both And I Am Just Stuck With The 9700 Or H2 Decision Wise. I Like The HD2 But I Find Myself Always Wanting To Go Back To A Blackberry.

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Its been designed to be used with a finger. Why do you want a stylus?
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For drawings, small icons and list-boxes.
For picking up exakt screen-coordinates (for maps etc.)
And at least for choosing a correct internet page.
Very often I get the wrong page.
eshd

johncmolyneux said:
What's With The Capitalisation Of Every Word? Lol
I'd say the main thing you've got to consider is the keyboard. I think it's a fair comment that a BB user trying to transition to a HD2 will struggle at first. Hell, I struggled coming from a Touch HD, but I got used to it and it was worth it. I now prefer the on-screen keyboard over a hardware one. But that's just me.
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Yup I prefer HD2, the battery is my main concern with this phone but it last me for 1 day or almost 2 days if it has little use.
But the on-screen keyboard + something like Swype (it's great for me), you will never like hardware keyboards, imo.

hector_huerta said:
Yup I prefer HD2, the battery is my main concern with this phone but it last me for 1 day or almost 2 days if it has little use.
But the on-screen keyboard + something like Swype (it's great for me), you will never like hardware keyboards, imo.
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I Use Swype On My TP2 And Im Not Really A Fan Of It. I Guess It Will Make More Of a Difference On A Wider Screen.

To be honest? My last phone was a Bold 9000 (still have it, running OS 5.0.0.411) and compared to a HTC HD2... not to compare. Here are some things that might help you.
Browser:
The HTC HD2 BLOWS AWAY the Bold 9000 (so probably the 9700 as well, not much difference). Seriously, I did a few 'test' on my own on the same network and... wel, the Bold takes about 4 to 5 times as long to load. And then it looks like crap as wel. This on the stock BB browser. But still, even if you use Opera, there is no beating the HD2.
Media:
First the good things. The Bold has much better Speakers. So playing music out load will be MUCH better on the Bold. Also, HTC Sense looks better, but the Media in general is much simpler and faster to access on the Bold. BUT, everything looks much better on the 4.3 inch screen, off course Further, the HD2 YouTube app is great. The Bold does not really have an app for YouTube.. Moving on.
Overall OS performance:
Things load up instant on the Bold (but you know that, BB OS is fast). But there is NO EYECANDY in the OS. So if you really go for function, that the Bold probably beats the HD2 by a little. But the HD2 also offers great eyecandy. But really, the Bold is very very stable.
Battery Life: About the same, all though I do much more with my HD2. So the HD2 is the winner, I think.
But really this choice is simple... Are you a serious person looking for a stable but performing phone? No YouTube and all that crap? Or are you the kind of person that likes eyecandy, YouTube in general etc..
Just answer yourself the question if you want YouTube on your phone. Yes = HD2, no = Bold 9700.
The hard keyboard is awesome though, so that is another plus for the Bold IF you wright a lot of messages.
Good luck.
Btw, I myself regret that I ever bought an BlackBerry. Way to boring OS for me. The only good things were BlackBerry Messenger and learning about BlackBerry in General, which will prevent me from buying another one in the future. Amazing devices, but just no fun. No apps (at least in the time I used it, App World was not available in many countries).. No good browser. This really is a messaging device.

Yeah I agree with XDA mark.
I think the phones both have their uses and it really depends what you need it for.
I had the BB first, I love the messaging on it but the browser was so crap and I like browsing and reading stuff on the web plus I couldnt view PDF files very well.
The HD2 is okay for messaging, it really only lacks push services for me just because of MSN and facebook but other than that it works okay for most people.
The battery life on the HD2 is rubbish. XDA mark is the first person that says its good. The blackberry for me lasts like 2 or 3 days with alot of usage.
I barely get through the day with my HD2. Its that great big screen.
Im going to buy a power monkey charger thing so that should sort that out.
Oh yeah if you want you could get both, as orange do a bb bolton for pay as you go. £5 I believe that's what Im going to do. Going to be annoying two phones though.
You got to really look at what you want to use the phone for really, you will get bored of the BB os really quickly which is what I found.

There is stylus for HD2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXVKyqDJC8s
and there is bigger battery for HD2 - http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/05/htc-hd2-extended-battery-gets-its-close-up-lower-price/
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Reasons why I should buy the HD2 instead of the Nexus One

Guys, I'm absolutely TORN between these two, and am leaning toward the HD2 a lot (because of how comfortable customizing Windows Mobile is) but can someone tell me why the HD2 is a better buy than the Nexus One? I'm just looking for some reassurance as to how the HD2 is better (apart from the screen size).

i have the hd2 and is a powerfull device the only thing is it have WM if i were you ill buy the nexus or you have a better option the evo 4g

Your decision
Andriod is great, for some people, wm is great for some, I love hd2, but personal choice,. Thats why so many different phones to choose from, lots of different personal choices,,,Quig

brekem said:
i have the hd2 and is a powerfull device the only thing is it have WM if i were you ill buy the nexus or you have a better option the evo 4g
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The EVO 4G is a CDMA device and I use a GSM network. How is the Nexus One better than the HD2?

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Andriod is great, for some people, wm is great for some, I love hd2, but personal choice,. Thats why so many different phones to choose from, lots of different personal choices,,,Quig
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Doesn't the HD2 have a lot of problems? I read this post of a guy with an HD2 and he said he has a new problem with it every day lol is that true?

well i cant tell you if it but i comming from a g1 i prefferd android over WM

Why not check the HTC Droid Incredible if android is a option
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQOsgZFBUGY
i , myself use a HD2 and i love it.

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Doesn't the HD2 have a lot of problems? I read this post of a guy with an HD2 and he said he has a new problem with it every day lol is that true?
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I saw that too. TBH i think that was a very large case of user incompetence. I've had my HD2 about 6 weeks now and i've not had any problems with it that weren't my fault to begin with except for the sms sound notification issue and the slow HTC messaging application issue but these are problems almost everyone is having and the second one isn't so bad if you don't have text mainiacs for friends or want to flash a custom rom that use's the outlook style WM default.
I love my windows mobile device for the simple things. Things like direct push of my email from my exchange server and the familiar UI. As a linux fan i was very excited when android was first annouced but after using a G1 in the local tmobile store i changed my mind a little. I haven't used android since so i have no idea if it's grown up any.

Nexus One uses a crappy pentile AMOLED screen.
Until today, I have not had a single lock-up, freeze, etc and what have you with my HD2. I think it all boils down to how versed you are with Windows Mobile. I however, did (without much thinking), double clicked on the SimLock.exe program to see what would happen. Naturally, this pained me for 60 seconds since I couldn't minimize the program. I had to hit the home key (brings it up for .5 second before the sim lock program comes up again) and quickly swipe my way to the soft reset button (had to do this 8 times while starting up every other program because it was a fleeting image. It was funny.

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I saw that too. TBH i think that was a very large case of user incompetence. I've had my HD2 about 6 weeks now and i've not had any problems with it that weren't my fault to begin with except for the sms sound notification issue and the slow HTC messaging application issue but these are problems almost everyone is having and the second one isn't so bad if you don't have text mainiacs for friends or want to flash a custom rom that use's the outlook style WM default.
I love my windows mobile device for the simple things. Things like direct push of my email from my exchange server and the familiar UI. As a linux fan i was very excited when android was first annouced but after using a G1 in the local tmobile store i changed my mind a little. I haven't used android since so i have no idea if it's grown up any.
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What about the SMS sound and HTC messaging issue?
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Nexus One uses a crappy pentile AMOLED screen.
Until today, I have not had a single lock-up, freeze, etc and what have you with my HD2. I think it all boils down to how versed you are with Windows Mobile. I however, did (without much thinking), double clicked on the SimLock.exe program to see what would happen. Naturally, this pained me for 60 seconds since I couldn't minimize the program. I had to hit the home key (brings it up for .5 second before the sim lock program comes up again) and quickly swipe my way to the soft reset button (had to do this 8 times while starting up every other program because it was a fleeting image. It was funny.
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Yeah it's things like that that make me think a WM device has a sort of soul, it always needs your attention, like Windows does. I used to have an iPAQ h4150 that ran WM2003 and I loved the apps and the gaming and file management capabilites. I also loved how everything was so familiar and easy to use. It's just that with the flick and swipe culture being so rampant everywhere and combining this with Android's open nature, just makes me think that WM 6.5 won't be as worthwhile. and lol why didn't you just pop the battery door off and reset?

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What about the SMS sound and HTC messaging issue?
Yeah it's things like that that make me think a WM device has a sort of soul, it always needs your attention, like Windows does. I used to have an iPAQ h4150 that ran WM2003 and I loved the apps and the gaming and file management capabilites. I also loved how everything was so familiar and easy to use. It's just that with the flick and swipe culture being so rampant everywhere and combining this with Android's open nature, just makes me think that WM 6.5 won't be as worthwhile. and lol why didn't you just pop the battery door off and reset?
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Firstly, that was not challenging. Easy way out.
Anyhow, hope you make a decision. WM 6.5 will be around for at least a year more after WP7 releases (so roughly 2 years or close to it if you get it now). By then, when you've used the HD2 as the last great Windows Mobile device, you can switch to the Hd4 which probably has 800mhz quadcore chips or something with 5000mAH batteries the size of a nickel or something. Who the heck knows what will happen in 2 years. A lot of emerging battery tech is arriving, and I hope it reaches the mobile scene soon since battery life as it is is sagging behind by a decade or more now.

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What about the SMS sound and HTC messaging issue?
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On occasion and at random the phone will not play the sms notification sound if the device is in standby but as soon as you hit any button to bring the device out of standby mode it pings you. The way i get around it is to enable a registry tweak which makes the green led at the top of the device blink when a message comes in.
The messaging app itself is just plain slow. If you have a contact with more than a few messages associated with them it can take up to 30 seconds to load them all. There is also a small delay when you hit the text input to start typing new sms messages. It is very much down to poor coding imho and although there are a couple of cabs out there to are supposed to fix this they appear to be a bit hit and miss. It doesn't really bug me that much, i think it as sort of a quirk and if you text while watching TV or doing other things then you don't really notice it.

M3PH said:
On occasion and at random the phone will not play the sms notification sound if the device is in standby but as soon as you hit any button to bring the device out of standby mode it pings you. The way i get around it is to enable a registry tweak which makes the green led at the top of the device blink when a message comes in.
The messaging app itself is just plain slow. If you have a contact with more than a few messages associated with them it can take up to 30 seconds to load them all. There is also a small delay when you hit the text input to start typing new sms messages. It is very much down to poor coding imho and although there are a couple of cabs out there to are supposed to fix this they appear to be a bit hit and miss. It doesn't really bug me that much, i think it as sort of a quirk and if you text while watching TV or doing other things then you don't really notice it.
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Darn I usually leave my phone somewhere on my bed or couch and I wouldn't see a blinking LED, usually I depend on the sound.
And 30 seconds? That's a lot of time, even my current Symbian smartphone doesn't take that long.
Do you think that, at this point, with WP7 and Android Gingerbread coming out in the end of the year, it would be better for me to skip out on a smartphone?

hackm0d said:
Darn I usually leave my phone somewhere on my bed or couch and I wouldn't see a blinking LED, usually I depend on the sound.
And 30 seconds? That's a lot of time, even my current Symbian smartphone doesn't take that long.
Do you think that, at this point, with WP7 and Android Gingerbread coming out in the end of the year, it would be better for me to skip out on a smartphone?
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Like I said, if you wait, you'll have a dual-core snapdragon next year. Of course, even after WP7 comes out, it'll take about 2 ~ 3 years before it even reaches the maturity of what Windows Mobile is today.

So I'm supposed to wait huh?
Darn, I guess I'll never see HTC/Microsoft's last hurrah with Windows Mobile 6.5. I think it's okay though, I might as well get a decent notebook that'll last me a couple of years so that I don't ask as much from a smartphone as I was asking from Windows Mobile and the HD2.

I dare say there will be a call for downgrading devices from wp7 to wm6.5, a lot of people will be unhappy with the reduced functionality and lack of customisability.

hackm0d said:
So I'm supposed to wait huh?
Darn, I guess I'll never see HTC/Microsoft's last hurrah with Windows Mobile 6.5. I think it's okay though, I might as well get a decent notebook that'll last me a couple of years so that I don't ask as much from a smartphone as I was asking from Windows Mobile and the HD2.
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I would never have got my Leo if it wasn't for O2-UK's inability to understand terms like redundancy and co-location and finally, an enthusiastic builder with a shovel but it is seriously the best phone (well it's not really a phone more a personal communications device) i have ever had. Yeah it's got it's problems but they are all HTC's fault for not sticking with the stock interface throughout and instead thinking they can do better.
If i was you (and 6 weeks ago i sorta was) i would go for the HD2 and i would make the same choice everytime of offering.

A friend of mine got the EVO on release day, and I've spent some time messing with it. Suprisingly, with Sense running on both, the core experience between the two is very similar. At the end of the day, I'd go for the EVO over the HD2 for the availability of apps, and what feels like a better touchscreen, but I don't feel the HD2 is as inferior to the EVO as I thought I would.
Between the HD2 and the Nexus one, I'd go for the HD2 because of the bigger screen, and generally better hardware. I'm an old iPhone user, so the hype of apps wore off for me a long time ago....if Apps are important to you, then definitely get the Nexus One, otherwise my vote goes for the HD2.
The last few iterations of the Energy Rom have been rock solid stable for me...rarely crashes, if ever. No messaging bug or crashes for me.

hd2 all the way. nexus one has been reviewed up against the hd2 and has proven to have better hardware run smoother. i have found if your an app person Windows mobile is still as possible to compete availability is concerned. i use omarket which is an app market for freewarepocketpc.net and also i visit umnet.com and i am just happy when it comes to apps.

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I would never have got my Leo if it wasn't for O2-UK's inability to understand terms like redundancy and co-location and finally, an enthusiastic builder with a shovel but it is seriously the best phone (well it's not really a phone more a personal communications device) i have ever had. Yeah it's got it's problems but they are all HTC's fault for not sticking with the stock interface throughout and instead thinking they can do better.
If i was you (and 6 weeks ago i sorta was) i would go for the HD2 and i would make the same choice everytime of offering.
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I'm pretty much looking for laptop-esque functionality, i.e. downloading torrents, word document composing and everything in a pocket-friendly package. Do you think it offers that? And what ROM are you running?
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A friend of mine got the EVO on release day, and I've spent some time messing with it. Suprisingly, with Sense running on both, the core experience between the two is very similar. At the end of the day, I'd go for the EVO over the HD2 for the availability of apps, and what feels like a better touchscreen, but I don't feel the HD2 is as inferior to the EVO as I thought I would.
Between the HD2 and the Nexus one, I'd go for the HD2 because of the bigger screen, and generally better hardware. I'm an old iPhone user, so the hype of apps wore off for me a long time ago....if Apps are important to you, then definitely get the Nexus One, otherwise my vote goes for the HD2.
The last few iterations of the Energy Rom have been rock solid stable for me...rarely crashes, if ever. No messaging bug or crashes for me.
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You sure? The person above said almost everyone has the messaging bug.
Any major issues worth mentioning?

Things I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?

Hi guys,
I might buy a HD2 and I want to do everything that a current DHD or DesireZ can do. So keeping this in mind what are things that I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?
Thanks, Help me decide whether or not to buy this phone

go for HD7

Yeah, the Desire builds of Android are indeed pretty decent, and sooner or later the HD2 is gonna be running WP7 aswell so thats kinda a double win there.

sathara said:
go for HD7
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??? Hmmm, helpful.
If you want to run Android full-time, then battery life may be your biggest issue, but apart from that I find that the current Android ROMs are pretty flawless, and it might be worth the trade-off for allowing you to dual-boot to WM, and save a few £100...
I'd say software-wise there's next to no difference, so after that, it's just a case of comparing the hardware side-by-side to seeing if any differences matter to you, e.g. camera-quality etc.
And a HD7 is just the HD2 hardware, but with non-expandable memory, and an okay-ish OS. Certainly not worth shelling out top-dollar for yet.

No HD7 please. Dont want a WP7 for now. Just want an android phone.
How bad is battery while running android ? Not looking forward to run WinMo anwyays.
I wanted to buy DHD... But its not available in US. Its quite expensive. And no other options for 4.3 Inch screen

If you visit the HD2 Android forums, there's a lot in there about battery life expectations. From all that I would have read, I think a safe generalisation is ~18 hours between recharges, so it depends if that suits your daily patterns (I can just about make it back into bed each night with a little juice left, and then leave it on charge until the next morning).
I've ordered the HTC Extended Battery, which will hopefully give me 1.5/2 days.

sathara said:
go for HD7
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wow............totally bad post there.....who wants to downgrade to WP7?

Apart from battery no other issues ? Battery if gives me 12 hrs of heavy usage i would be happy It delivers every thing that a nexus one /desire/DZ/DHD delivers ?

I'd really like others to reply, as the more opinions the better , but yes, I find that is is just like the Desire in every regard.
People have faced problems with:
-Data dropping
-Screen taking a while to turn on if screen rotation is on
-'Robot voice' on calls (e.g. you can't hear your call through distortion
But I believe I am right in saying that these have all been just about resolved within the last few weeks in many ROMs. Finding the right combo of ROM and Radio takes some time, but when you do, you should be fine. I face no issues on a daily basis.
The ROMs runs smooth, you get fine-running Live Wallpapers, all Apps work great without slowdown, WiFi is fine, I believe the same with Bluetooth, etc. etc. Some ROMs still have quirks, and in mine (MDeeJay Froyo Revolution) I find sometimes that I cannot save a Contact, but otherwise yes.
If money is no object, get the Desire.
If..
-You want to save the £300 or so
-Want the flexibility of another OS to use
Then get the HD.
I'd suggest looking around http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=743 and even perhaps posting this Q there as well.

Thanks. I vl do that