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Should i change to HD2? ( HD user )

My HD is barely a year old and i heard so many folks saying it is pointless..
i am hoping users who have both device can help.
My main dislikes of HD.
1) Video playback performance
2) System is sluggish. Even with custom roms
3) Camera is BAD. REAL BAD.
4) I always have misfires while typing. wrong letters etc.
5) Not so good batt. life.
does the HD2 solve all this and beyond? thanks so much.

I'm not an HD2 owner but I think I can fairly state that:
1) the device has been proven to be able to play very high resolution videos flawlessly;
2) system response is blazing fast, even with heavy-ass Sense 2.5;
3) camera is not really much better quality-wise, but you get a powerful flash and, most important, there's almost no lag at all between you clicking and the picture being taken;
4) the screen is considerably bigger and so will be the keyboard, accordingly;
5) numbers seem to indicate that battery life will not improve, but I'd ask owners first on this one.

Rizlo said:
I'm not an HD2 owner but I think I can fairly state that:
1) the device has been proven to be able to play very high resolution videos flawlessly;
2) system response is blazing fast, even with heavy-ass Sense 2.5;
3) camera is not really much better quality-wise, but you get a powerful flash and, most important, there's almost no lag at all between you clicking and the picture being taken;
4) the screen is considerably bigger and so will be the keyboard, accordingly;
5) numbers seem to indicate that battery life will not improve, but I'd ask owners first on this one.
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lol heavy-ass Sense 2.5

1) and 2) HD2 is infinitely better. I sold my HD to a colleague and tried to use it yesterday. I don't know how I tolerated it.
3) I don't know where and how you guys take pictures, but, as far as I'm concerned, HD2's camera is miles better that HD's one. I mean, with this camera I can actually take pictures in real life circumstances. The reason is that it is very fast. HD's camera took so long to focus and take the shot that the scene often changed several times by the end. Sure, these pictures won't make me a famous photographer, and for something really good I'll use my dedicated camera, but for occasional snapshots of friends and places it's good enough finally. HD was completely useless for me in this area.
4) is an issue of permanent flame wars here. Its very subjective. It was difficult for me to get used to it because of the capacitive screen and strong habits of using resistive touchscreen devices. Your taps may be registered in slightly different locations compared to what you may expect at first. With resistive, the tap happens where you press hardest, here it depends on the shape of your finger. People who've never used resistive seem to deal just fine with my keyboard. Also, HD2's keyboard wasn't modified by HTC properly for the capacitive screen. It needs to support multitouch and space buttons a bit further away from each other. But all in all, after a little getting used to, I type at least as fast as I did on HD2. Maybe even faster.
5) It's difficult to say. My HD lasted for 1.5 days (a full day, a full night in standby and another full day) easily. I've not been able to get this with HD2. But! I use it much more. For the first few days I caught myself turning it on and watching the silly weather animation on the home screen every five minutes. Disabling this animation seems to have increased battery life, even if by giving me fewer reasons to turn the phone on. I think that 1.5 days is achievable when my usage normalizes.

1) My HD2 plays all of my movies with out and problems, nice and smooth.
2) Doesnt slow down, pretty much ever, there is the occasion bit now and then, but thats very very rare! And with new roms it can only get better!
3) Camera is actually really, VERY VERY good.
4) Keyboard is really good if you leave XT9 on.
5) Battery life isnt that bad, obviously it could be better, but it lasts me a day and thats all I need.

Mate, there has been so many of these threads started already. I haven't commented on any but coming from a HD and loving it there really is no competition. The HD2 is literally twice the device the HD was. Its not that much bigger, 1ghz under the hood, upgradeable to WM7 etc etc etc. The only slight annoyance is the battery life is crap!! I use mine for work so get lots of calls and emails, barely lasts a day!
Other than this the HD2 is the best device (arguably) ever invented, it is that good.
DB

donbronzi said:
Mate, there has been so many of these threads started already. I haven't commented on any but coming from a HD and loving it there really is no competition. The HD2 is literally twice the device the HD was. Its not that much bigger, 1ghz under the hood, upgradeable to WM7 etc etc etc. The only slight annoyance is the battery life is crap!! I use mine for work so get lots of calls and emails, barely lasts a day!
Other than this the HD2 is the best device (arguably) ever invented, it is that good.
DB
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Not really anything to add to that. Some people have beefs and believe that not agreeing with them means you are lying, but they're just idiots. There's about 99% praise for this phone on these forums, and we're not fanboys. We're just glad to own something so good.
Get one. Get one now

I'd pretty much agree with vangreig. except to say i find typing in landscape is a joy, im almost as fast typing with this now as with the advantage hard keyboard, and if it doesnt appeal swype works pretty well as well. will be interesting too see which way htc go with the keyboard, it could support multitouch easily and by the looks if things htc are throwing plenty of roms out..
I'm upto about 36 hrs of battery life with heavy use, plenty of tweaks in there.
personally i think there is no comparison really between hd and hd2, i tried my hd2 after a weekend with the hd2, and went and immediately sold it...

I add a Touch Pro 2 before. TP2 is the same than HD but with a full keypad.. so I've some advice abotu your post :
2) System is sluggish. Even with custom roms
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System is stable, and fast. VERY fast. i didn't got any pb with it.
3) Camera is BAD. REAL BAD.
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The resolution of photos is better, but qualitiy looks like the same. I think.
4) I always have misfires while typing. wrong letters etc.
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The capacitive screen of an HD2 is really different from the resistive your HD. It's hard to explain, but REALLY better. On answer to this problem, is that whit a resistive screen, if you're taping TWO differents keys on your virtual keypad, you'll get a mistake (the screen will takes the letter at the middle of the both). Whith capacitive screen, they won't be any problem, the second letter tapped will not be considered. So, YES, the HD2 screen is REALLY better for it ! ;D
5) Not so good batt. life.
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With my TP2 (is think he has a better batery than HD), I had a batery life of 2-3 days. With my HD2, I get only 1 day, using WMLongLife program (auto-switching to 2G-3G when needed). The batery is suffisant. Not exceptional, but really suffisant Moreover, at the end of the day (9:00 pm), I'm about 3% (xD) but I use my phone EVERY hour (which I didn't with TP2). =)
Hope it helps you !

vangrieg said:
(...) with this camera I can actually take pictures in real life circumstances. The reason is that it is very fast. HD's camera took so long to focus and take the shot that the scene often changed several times by the end.
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I think this is what really matters, the real major breakthrough we were all expecting for the camera.
johncmolyneux said:
Get one. Get one now
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Hahahaha JEEEEEEEEEEEZ I'm so horribly tempted

If you are really ready to open the back to reset the machine every day, yes you can buy it now.

biranouran said:
If you are really ready to open the back to reset the machine every day, yes you can buy it now.
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That's an exaggeration. I do that maybe twice a week, but I play with it a LOT, and by play, I mean hack about.
Anyway, if the worst thing it does is mean you have to press a small red button once a day, YES!!!! Get it!

Rizlo said:
3) camera is not really much better quality-wise, but you get a powerful flash and, most important, there's almost no lag at all between you clicking and the picture being taken;
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I wish, the lag is about three seconds. Taking photos of my baby son is almost impossible. Still, I love the camera, especially the touch focus ability.

Pagnell said:
I wish, the lag is about three seconds. Taking photos of my baby son is almost impossible. Still, I love the camera, especially the touch focus ability.
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ISO 400 should do the trick, if not go 800.
Had the HD2 for over 3 weeks now, only once did I soft reset my device, and that was to get some changes to take effect.

erosennin said:
ISO 400 should do the trick, if not go 800.
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ISO settings only adjust the shutter speed. The problem here is the time it takes between pressing the "button" to take a picture, and the device actually doing it.

biranouran said:
If you are really ready to open the back to reset the machine every day, yes you can buy it now.
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You can simply load a software soft reset button such as Raisaks and lots of others, theres one in the tweak thread too with a nice Icon. No need to take back cover off.

I changed from the HD to the HD2 but then took the HD2 back as I could not adjust to the size of the device! It's like a tablet PC rather than a PDA. That was the only let down for me. Everytime I picked it up I just thought "This is too big".
Luckly I was able to return it to O2 for a full refund and they cancelled the 18 month contract. Im now back to my HD and love it to bits.
The HD2 was faster... Much faster infact and the camera was so much quicker at taking pictures. Also the multi-touch screen was very good. I had problems typing on the phone as it was too sensitive. The slightest movement of you finger would select the key to the side.
In my opinion I would have liked the HD2 specs to be inside the HD case and keep that size. Now that would have been a great phone.

Re camera speed, I certainly don't have anything remotely close to a 3 second delay. There are videos out there showing HD2 taking pictures - it's near instant, and that's been my experience. Maybe the reason you think there is a delay is that you confuse the preview you get after taking a picture for it?

I went from a Touch HD to the HD2 and am very happy.
Battery life is slightly poorer than the HD but adding the tweaks here has helped I can get through from 8:00am to 11:00pm comfortably, which is enough for me. Oh and +1 on the keep switching on to play and watch the weather animation.
Typing takes some getting used to moving from the Resistive screen to the Capacitive screen, takes some practice, but the experience is better once a little effort has been put in.
These are the only caveats I could point out, the HD2 is superior to the HD in every way and, in my opinion, the best that money can buy.

Pagnell said:
I wish, the lag is about three seconds. Taking photos of my baby son is almost impossible. Still, I love the camera, especially the touch focus ability.
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Now, if that's true you might consider to do a hard reset. It's not supposed to behave that way.
On topic: I had HD before HD2 and it's like day and night in all aspects (yes also in the aspect of the keyboard ) and I would'nt switch back even if I got paid. Actually I would'nt want to switch to any other phone after getting used to the HD2. I love it and when hardspl is done which will make us able to cook some fresh ROM's, well then we'll have a real iPhone killer for sure.

Hard Decision: Blackberry 9700 Or HD 2

I Dont Know What Path To Go Down. Both Of These are Powerhouses And Can Hold Their Own Weight. Im Looking For A Real Reliable Phone That Will Stop Me From Constantly Upgrading Or Trading. Can Someone Help Me? Thanks. All Opinions Are Welcome.

both about the same its down to personal preference

charlieb620 said:
I Dont Know What Path To Go Down. Both Of These are Powerhouses And Can Hold Their Own Weight. Im Looking For A Real Reliable Phone That Will Stop Me From Constantly Upgrading Or Trading. Can Someone Help Me? Thanks. All Opinions Are Welcome.
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I have a HD2 as my personal phone and a Bold 9000 as a work phone.
I must admit, I'm not personally a fan of the Bold, the OS seems to have been designed to mimic the iPhone's layout, but without the touch screen, its a bit of a chore navigating.
The Bold's battery life isn't anywhere near the previous BB I had, and I'm lucky to get a few days out of it (it sits in my office, just doing push-email in sleep mode, not used otherwise as its not got the same 'fluid feel' to it as the HD2), the HD2 gets hammered each and every day and I get a good 1.5 - 2 days out of it.
But, as World705 said, its pretty much down to personal preference from there.

rp-x1 said:
I have a HD2 as my personal phone and a Bold 9000 as a work phone.
I must admit, I'm not personally a fan of the Bold, the OS seems to have been designed to mimic the iPhone's layout, but without the touch screen, its a bit of a chore navigating.
The Bold's battery life isn't anywhere near the previous BB I had, and I'm lucky to get a few days out of it (it sits in my office, just doing push-email in sleep mode, not used otherwise as its not got the same 'fluid feel' to it as the HD2), the HD2 gets hammered each and every day and I get a good 1.5 - 2 days out of it.
But, as World705 said, its pretty much down to personal preference from there.
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So You Find Your HD2 More Reliable Than The 9700?

charlieb620 said:
So You Find Your HD2 More Reliable Than The 9700?
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Reliable in terms of switching on, or making calls/messaging/general operation?
Both work fine to be honest, I just prefer the HD2 as I find the navigation on BBs a bit of a chore.

The only thing that could be improved is the battery life on the HD2.
I've got a curve 8900 and a HD2.
I like the push messages from the BB. But I like the HD2 as an everyday use phone its so much better and much more smooth to use.
The BB OS is out dated, even the latest os5 is kinda boring, it does the trick but still. The app store on BB is slow and apps are expensive.
The HD2 is still awesome in my book, I just wish it had a better battery and push services (apart from just windows live email).
I love this community though, you can find alot of useful info and apps on this forum.

rp-x1 said:
Reliable in terms of switching on, or making calls/messaging/general operation?
Both work fine to be honest, I just prefer the HD2 as I find the navigation on BBs a bit of a chore.
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As In A Everyday Phone? Email, Online, Battery Life? Battery Life Is My Main Thing. I Find That WM Battery Life Isnt Good. I Have The TP2 Now. I Constantly Charge As Where When I Had Blackberry I Charged Every 2 Days.

charlieb620 said:
As In A Everyday Phone? Email, Online, Battery Life? Battery Life Is My Main Thing. I Find That WM Battery Life Isnt Good. I Have The TP2 Now. I Constantly Charge As Where When I Had Blackberry I Charged Every 2 Days.
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As I said, my BB barely lasts a few days and thats literally just sat on my desk with push mail. Not used.
The HD2 lasts a good 1.5 to 2 days without charge (the first couple of weeks my HD2 would last about a day, then performance improved to almost double) and I pretty much use it constantly for texting, email (3 x pop3 accounts checked every 15 mins) and online browsing.

wotsreallygood said:
The only thing that could be improved is the battery life on the HD2.
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And a good stylos.
Hope HTC can/will read this.
eshd

eshd said:
And a good stylos.
Hope HTC can/will read this.
eshd
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Its been designed to be used with a finger. Why do you want a stylus?

What's With The Capitalisation Of Every Word? Lol
I'd say the main thing you've got to consider is the keyboard. I think it's a fair comment that a BB user trying to transition to a HD2 will struggle at first. Hell, I struggled coming from a Touch HD, but I got used to it and it was worth it. I now prefer the on-screen keyboard over a hardware one. But that's just me.

rp-x1 said:
Its been designed to be used with a finger. Why do you want a stylus?
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For drawings, small icons and list-boxes,
for selecting exakt coordinates on a map, ... ,
and for using internet pages.
eshd

johncmolyneux said:
What's With The Capitalisation Of Every Word? Lol
I'd say the main thing you've got to consider is the keyboard. I think it's a fair comment that a BB user trying to transition to a HD2 will struggle at first. Hell, I struggled coming from a Touch HD, but I got used to it and it was worth it. I now prefer the on-screen keyboard over a hardware one. But that's just me.
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I had the same coming from the X1, but to be honest, I won't be looking back.

Its A Habit. Lol. But I Have The Universal And The Touch Pro 2 Now. Im Selling Both And I Am Just Stuck With The 9700 Or H2 Decision Wise. I Like The HD2 But I Find Myself Always Wanting To Go Back To A Blackberry.

rp-x1 said:
Its been designed to be used with a finger. Why do you want a stylus?
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For drawings, small icons and list-boxes.
For picking up exakt screen-coordinates (for maps etc.)
And at least for choosing a correct internet page.
Very often I get the wrong page.
eshd

johncmolyneux said:
What's With The Capitalisation Of Every Word? Lol
I'd say the main thing you've got to consider is the keyboard. I think it's a fair comment that a BB user trying to transition to a HD2 will struggle at first. Hell, I struggled coming from a Touch HD, but I got used to it and it was worth it. I now prefer the on-screen keyboard over a hardware one. But that's just me.
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Yup I prefer HD2, the battery is my main concern with this phone but it last me for 1 day or almost 2 days if it has little use.
But the on-screen keyboard + something like Swype (it's great for me), you will never like hardware keyboards, imo.

hector_huerta said:
Yup I prefer HD2, the battery is my main concern with this phone but it last me for 1 day or almost 2 days if it has little use.
But the on-screen keyboard + something like Swype (it's great for me), you will never like hardware keyboards, imo.
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I Use Swype On My TP2 And Im Not Really A Fan Of It. I Guess It Will Make More Of a Difference On A Wider Screen.

To be honest? My last phone was a Bold 9000 (still have it, running OS 5.0.0.411) and compared to a HTC HD2... not to compare. Here are some things that might help you.
Browser:
The HTC HD2 BLOWS AWAY the Bold 9000 (so probably the 9700 as well, not much difference). Seriously, I did a few 'test' on my own on the same network and... wel, the Bold takes about 4 to 5 times as long to load. And then it looks like crap as wel. This on the stock BB browser. But still, even if you use Opera, there is no beating the HD2.
Media:
First the good things. The Bold has much better Speakers. So playing music out load will be MUCH better on the Bold. Also, HTC Sense looks better, but the Media in general is much simpler and faster to access on the Bold. BUT, everything looks much better on the 4.3 inch screen, off course Further, the HD2 YouTube app is great. The Bold does not really have an app for YouTube.. Moving on.
Overall OS performance:
Things load up instant on the Bold (but you know that, BB OS is fast). But there is NO EYECANDY in the OS. So if you really go for function, that the Bold probably beats the HD2 by a little. But the HD2 also offers great eyecandy. But really, the Bold is very very stable.
Battery Life: About the same, all though I do much more with my HD2. So the HD2 is the winner, I think.
But really this choice is simple... Are you a serious person looking for a stable but performing phone? No YouTube and all that crap? Or are you the kind of person that likes eyecandy, YouTube in general etc..
Just answer yourself the question if you want YouTube on your phone. Yes = HD2, no = Bold 9700.
The hard keyboard is awesome though, so that is another plus for the Bold IF you wright a lot of messages.
Good luck.
Btw, I myself regret that I ever bought an BlackBerry. Way to boring OS for me. The only good things were BlackBerry Messenger and learning about BlackBerry in General, which will prevent me from buying another one in the future. Amazing devices, but just no fun. No apps (at least in the time I used it, App World was not available in many countries).. No good browser. This really is a messaging device.

Yeah I agree with XDA mark.
I think the phones both have their uses and it really depends what you need it for.
I had the BB first, I love the messaging on it but the browser was so crap and I like browsing and reading stuff on the web plus I couldnt view PDF files very well.
The HD2 is okay for messaging, it really only lacks push services for me just because of MSN and facebook but other than that it works okay for most people.
The battery life on the HD2 is rubbish. XDA mark is the first person that says its good. The blackberry for me lasts like 2 or 3 days with alot of usage.
I barely get through the day with my HD2. Its that great big screen.
Im going to buy a power monkey charger thing so that should sort that out.
Oh yeah if you want you could get both, as orange do a bb bolton for pay as you go. £5 I believe that's what Im going to do. Going to be annoying two phones though.
You got to really look at what you want to use the phone for really, you will get bored of the BB os really quickly which is what I found.

There is stylus for HD2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXVKyqDJC8s
and there is bigger battery for HD2 - http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/05/htc-hd2-extended-battery-gets-its-close-up-lower-price/
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you've had the weekend to play with it.

how do you like your EVO?
what are the quirks that are bugging you?
what phone did you come from?
and
how does it compare to that previous phone?
i have my phone pre-order sitting at best buy still.
i have my money, i have my little gift card....only thing is i've really enjoyed the past few roms on my HTC HERO and I don't feel the need for this phone because the Hero has fit me very well. that and there is no 4g here in so cali yet so what's the point?
thanks to everyone who replies

I left WiMo on a VZW xv6800
Quirks........
no signature in SMS and the native email client sucks. I can only get my main folder in Hotmail and not all my other folders were my mail is separated to.
Anyone know a better email client that will resolve that?
I thought Seven would do it but i see they dont have a client for Android as of yet.

weedahoe said:
I left WiMo on a VZW xv6800
Quirks........
no signature in SMS and the native email client sucks. I can only get my main folder in Hotmail and not all my other folders were my mail is separated to.
Anyone know a better email client that will resolve that?
I thought Seven would do it but i see they dont have a client for Android as of yet.
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after 1 week with the stock text client i switched to handcent. it is SO SO SO SO SO much better in my opinion
i hate the mail client for hotmail/yahoo as well BUT i only really use gmail and that one is perfect for me so...maybe think about switching to gmail?

oh jeeze....thats what she said.
my evo is treating me great! my first complain was with the battery, but with a few discharge/recharge cycles, it seems to be doing well.
everything else is pretty much gravy. i love the screen, the real estate is just MASSIVE.
bottom line, you're going to love this thing

Phenomenal piece of hardware.

I love my Evo. I am still setting it up and haven't decided if I want to root or not but its awesome.
Haven't had many quirks, the soft keys are a little sensitive and I end up fatfingering them when playing some games, no biggie. Battery isn't a huge issue if you're a resourceful person. I used my phone for 6 hours before it died doing HEAVY usage. (Navigation, Trapster, YouTube streaming, Super KO Boxing 2, Pictures, recorded a 2 min video, etc)
I came from the G1, what an upgrade.

I freaking love it!!!!

engagedtosmile said:
I love my Evo. I am still setting it up and haven't decided if I want to root or not but its awesome.
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Do the unrevoked root. Getting rid of it is as simple as uninstalling the app. All Root does is give you superuser/admin rights to the phone.

I love this phone. I play iMobsters on it so addicting so I haven't had too much time to play with the phone. I've taken so many pictures.
Gripes:
Is there a way to turn flash on at night so I can record video? Videos come out dark so I haven't recorded much at night.
I disabled SenseUI but I wanted to know how I can get more widgets to fill up at least 1 or 2 more pages. Any recommendations? I noticed that when I disabled SenseUI a lot of widgets don't come up in the options.

I am coming from a Palm Pre, and this phone is so amazing. I have been using the speech-to-text on text messages and it hasn't missed a word yet. I dislike the email client, but it isn't enough to make me verbally complain. I have downloaded a few apps here and there, and so far everything is working better than expected.

I do miss the track pad or ball a little. Nothing earth shattering.
I LOVE THE SCREEN BUT they should have raised the resolution.
I wish the system didn't auto start a bunch of crap. That's an android issue and people shouldn't be forced to root to get rid of it. I'm rooted so this doesn't matter anymore but battery performance and even actual device performance improves after removing all the bull ****.
I wish they was another way to turn on the device. I miss menu menu. Should be an option.
I wish launcher pro worked over sense. I like the widgets.
Otherwise I love android and the evo. I will have a hard time going back to any screen less than 4 inches. I don't miss having s physical keyboard anymore with swype and especially swype on this awesome screen.
The speed is mostly good, it will improve as things get optimized.

how about things like, how does it fit in your pocket.
does it fit in the same spot where you stored your old phone in your car
*i have a perfect slot above my radio and i think the evo may be too thin and it will fall out while driving*
i've had an htc phone since the 6700 a few years back and everything has been mini-usb now i gotta use my blu-tooth microsb cables/chargers.
ummmmmmmmmmmmm
anyone crack their screen yet?

Absolutely love the phone much better than my HD2. Only 2 quirks for me is that I cant control all volumes (media, notifications, phone calls, etc.) with one setting and that I can never tell where my battery percent is. I always have to guess if im on 85% etc. OTT it has exceeded all expectations.

dukins said:
Absolutely love the phone much better than my HD2. Only 2 quirks for me is that I cant control all volumes (media, notifications, phone calls, etc.) with one setting and that I can never tell where my battery percent is. I always have to guess if im on 85% etc. OTT it has exceeded all expectations.
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uhh, there's an app for that (more like 100 apps for that). Most are free too.

gonzoangel said:
how about things like, how does it fit in your pocket.
does it fit in the same spot where you stored your old phone in your car
*i have a perfect slot above my radio and i think the evo may be too thin and it will fall out while driving*
i've had an htc phone since the 6700 a few years back and everything has been mini-usb now i gotta use my blu-tooth microsb cables/chargers.
ummmmmmmmmmmmm
anyone crack their screen yet?
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It fits in my pocket quite well. (Is it just me or are there a lot of jokes that would go there?) I think that it being as thin as it is actually makes it better than my Hero. Just my opinion.
I got the silicone case from Sprint and it doesnt slide around in the cubby in my car at all. Next is the car mount

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dukins said:
Absolutely love the phone much better than my HD2. Only 2 quirks for me is that I cant control all volumes (media, notifications, phone calls, etc.) with one setting and that I can never tell where my battery percent is. I always have to guess if im on 85% etc. OTT it has exceeded all expectations.
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I use an app called battery left. It is free and really nice.

Aridon said:
I wish launcher pro worked over sense. I like the widgets.
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-That is exactly what I was thinking when I installed launcher pro but removed it due to that reason
Aridon said:
Otherwise I love android and the evo. I will have a hard time going back to any screen less than 4 inches. I don't miss having s physical keyboard anymore with swype and especially swype on this awesome screen.
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I didn't even know what swype was 20 min ago. I installed it and did the tutorial, sent out a few texts. Will take some time to get used to, but so far it seems promising. Thanks.

Pros:
I absolutely love the size. Not too big, not too small.
Kickstand, HDMI out, dual LED flash, 720P recording.
Haptic feedback is great.
Cons:
For some reason, most of my incoming text messages are time stamped incorrectly. I have googled the living hell out of this problem, but can't find a legit fix anywhere.
The camera is so grainy that it feels like I'm using a camera phone from the 90's. Flash clears this up in dark lighting, but indoor photos are terrible.
Stock keyboard is a nightmare. Thank god for Swype.
Lock/Power button is hard to locate without looking at times.
Overall, I couldn't be any more disappointed in the camera. With all the time they spend on kickstands, flash, and such a massive screen I would have thought they'd spend more time on something as standard as a camera. I've read that not many people have this problem- so I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that this is a faulty camera in my phone.

All my friends have been amazed how much I've been tinkering with my phone all weekend. I laid in bed Saturday night for 3 hours (until about 2am) playing with all the cool apps and features of the EVO. They all laughed when I told them I was in bed until 2am (laying next to my wife) while playing with the phone. Yes, "playing" because it's been so much fun. I already had the original G1 when it was first launched 2 years ago, so all this wasn't new to me. I can't imagine how a NEW user to Android would be just blown away at first glance of the EVO.
I was first blown away of the size of the screen. It is sooo much better to view text. I was equally blown away at the speed of the phone and apps (and it's supposed to be faster with 2.2 JIT ??? wow!!). Battery was great for me. I was using everything, including 4G. I was getting tired of waiting for the juice to run out. I was blown away at the Sega Genesis emulator and speed of the games.
I don't have any complaints, but if you twisted my arm and forced me to find something to improve on I would list:
1) Action buttons on the bottom (home, menu, back, and search). They are very sensitive and I keep hitting them accidentally. Not a major problem, but still, I think they should have been physical buttons.
2) Trackball, nice to use instead of keyboard arrow buttons, but as someone else said: This is not a deal breaker.
3) 4G: I live in Houston so we have 4G coverage, but it's spotty. I was in Best Buy over the weekend talking to the ClearWire rep and we were on the edge of the city (in Katy) and he had his usb Dongle to get 4G reception. I still right up next to the antenna and we both ran speed test from SpeedTest.net. The Rep kept getting MINIMUM of 6 Mbit down and 2 Mbit up, while I was getting max 2.25 MBit down (I've since gotten 3.35 MBit down while at home over 4g). With our limited testing I would have to conclude that 4G is NOT ClearWire or Sprints problem, but more of a HARDWARE issue. The USB dongle probably had a better antenna whereas the EVO antenna didn't pick up the signal as much. We were deep inside the Best Buy store and the ClearWire 4G reception was at least 75%, while I barely got 1 bar on my EVO. I changed positions, and we made sure we were both on the same servers running our speed tests. But, 4G is still much faster than 3G, but not what I was expecting.

My first week with the Evo 4g coming from an iPhone 3G

For the first five days I had a huge issue with the battery draining while in standby, and because of that I expected to return the phone. Now that I have logged out of google talk and changed to CDMA auto it's doing much better... I seem to get at least 6 hours of continuous use with little power draining when the screen is off, which I can definitely live with.
Here are the things I love about the evo:
* Being able to plug it in to my computer and mount it as a drive. So simple, and so frustrating that apple won't allow it.
* Google navigation. It's awesome, and much safer since it has text to speech.
* The screen size is amazing... I love that it lets me view docs in meetings so I hardly have to print anything
* Wifi tethering
Here are my main issues, the big ones that might make me have to return it:
* Horrible wifi reception. I have yet to pick up a signal at work, and I have no problem with my iPhone & laptop.
* It sucks as a media player. I have a huge library full of lossless files, and I don't have the energy to convert everything (yes I've tried doubletwist and andless but I can't get it to recognize the artist/album/songnames properly). I listen to a lot of music so this is a major PITA for me.
* Build quality kind of scares me, light leakage etc.; it makes me feel like I need to get the insurance. This plan is costing me way more than an iPhone 4 would (since I still have two other lines on AT&T with one year left on the contract and I get a lower corporate discount) and I hate the thought of paying any more.
The evo is not without it's imperfections, but I love it so far and shudder at the thought of having to go back to an iPhone. In fact I picked up my 3G today and it felt like a sad pathetic joke, like going back to one of those 12 lb. i486 laptops from the 90's. And nobody wants that.
Gary

cloudyphiz said:
For the first five days I had a huge issue with the battery draining while in standby, and because of that I expected to return the phone. Now that I have logged out of google talk and changed to CDMA auto it's doing much better... I seem to get at least 6 hours of continuous use with little power draining when the screen is off, which I can definitely live with.
Here are the things I love about the evo:
* Being able to plug it in to my computer and mount it as a drive. So simple, and so frustrating that apple won't allow it.
* Google navigation. It's awesome, and much safer since it has text to speech.
* The screen size is amazing... I love that it lets me view docs in meetings so I hardly have to print anything
* Wifi tethering
Here are my main issues, the big ones that might make me have to return it:
* Horrible wifi reception. I have yet to pick up a signal at work, and I have no problem with my iPhone & laptop.
* It sucks as a media player. I have a huge library full of lossless files, and I don't have the energy to convert everything (yes I've tried doubletwist and andless but I can't get it to recognize the artist/album/songnames properly). I listen to a lot of music so this is a major PITA for me.
* Build quality kind of scares me, light leakage etc.; it makes me feel like I need to get the insurance. This plan is costing me way more than an iPhone 4 would (since I still have two other lines on AT&T with one year left on the contract and I get a lower corporate discount) and I hate the thought of paying any more.
The evo is not without it's imperfections, but I love it so far and shudder at the thought of having to go back to an iPhone. In fact I picked up my 3G today and it felt like a sad pathetic joke, like going back to one of those 12 lb. i486 laptops from the 90's. And nobody wants that.
Gary
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Welcome!
Thanks for your iPhone/Evo thoughts.
I have some friends at work that are curious about Evo and how it compares to an iPhone.
I've been with Sprint for 10 years, so I've never had an iPhone.
These XDA forums are full of really good folks that want to help out.
Enjoy you Evo!

I also came from a 3G and have similar opinions:
Screen - Damn this screen is beautiful. It definitely is hard to go back to the iPhone just because of this. In addition, I can see much more on the screen without having to zoom (unsure if this is because of the larger screen or increased resolution, or both). On the other hand, it does seems more reflective than the iPhone. I have a hard time seeing the screen in the sun because of all the glare. It's very nice indoors though.
Syncing - much better than the iPhone. iTunes is okay when it works but it just has too many problems. Plus, being able to manually put things on the android without having to root is awesome.
Navigation - Wow. Google navigation blew me away when I first used it. Streetview is a nice touch. Nothing compared to that on the iPhone unless you pay a decent amount.
Customization - being able to root and apply all sorts of different ROMS is pretty badass. Currently, I'm using a Froyo ROM and I have to say... much better than HTC Sense. I guess I like stock android better (I hate HTCs keyboard - too crowded).
Notifications - hot damn I love notifications on android. This is what may keep me on android. It works so well with gmail.
Widgets are awesome
My issues that may swing me back to the iPhone (and please, if I can fix any of these issues, let me know):
I hate having to press the power button to wake from sleep. Maybe I'm just used to pressing the bottom button on the iPhone, but it was just so much easier for me. Of course, not a deal breaker, but very annoying.
It could be just me, but the screen seems hypersensitive. When I'm scrolling up and down, I'm constantly opening apps/menus that I don't want to. It seems to be getting better, so maybe I just need to get used to it.
I'm in Hawaii and the 4G is supposed to be pretty good -- looking at the coverage maps on sprint shows mostly blue where I live. However, I seem to get spotty coverage and the speeds compared to 3G aren't what they advertise. I was so looking forward to 4G. To add insult to injury, leaving 4G on drains the battery like no other.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think most people agree the iPhone's OS is much more polished. It doesn't help that both HTC and Sprint add applications and background processes. Scrolling on the android is a tad slower and a little more jerky. One thing that bugs the hell out of me is, on HTC sense, if you press the applications icon, open an application, but decide to go back to the applications screen, it doesn't do that! It goes back to the home screen. That frustrates me so much. Froyo doesn't do that so right now I'm pretty happy.
I can't think of anything else, but I'm pretty torn right now about keeping the EVO or getting an iPhone 4. Any advice?

binxer said:
I also came from a 3G and have similar opinions:
Screen - Damn this screen is beautiful. It definitely is hard to go back to the iPhone just because of this. In addition, I can see much more on the screen without having to zoom (unsure if this is because of the larger screen or increased resolution, or both). On the other hand, it does seems more reflective than the iPhone. I have a hard time seeing the screen in the sun because of all the glare. It's very nice indoors though.
Syncing - much better than the iPhone. iTunes is okay when it works but it just has too many problems. Plus, being able to manually put things on the android without having to root is awesome.
Navigation - Wow. Google navigation blew me away when I first used it. Streetview is a nice touch. Nothing compared to that on the iPhone unless you pay a decent amount.
Customization - being able to root and apply all sorts of different ROMS is pretty badass. Currently, I'm using a Froyo ROM and I have to say... much better than HTC Sense. I guess I like stock android better (I hate HTCs keyboard - too crowded).
Notifications - hot damn I love notifications on android. This is what may keep me on android. It works so well with gmail.
Widgets are awesome
My issues that may swing me back to the iPhone (and please, if I can fix any of these issues, let me know):
I hate having to press the power button to wake from sleep. Maybe I'm just used to pressing the bottom button on the iPhone, but it was just so much easier for me. Of course, not a deal breaker, but very annoying.
It could be just me, but the screen seems hypersensitive. When I'm scrolling up and down, I'm constantly opening apps/menus that I don't want to. It seems to be getting better, so maybe I just need to get used to it.
I'm in Hawaii and the 4G is supposed to be pretty good -- looking at the coverage maps on sprint shows mostly blue where I live. However, I seem to get spotty coverage and the speeds compared to 3G aren't what they advertise. I was so looking forward to 4G. To add insult to injury, leaving 4G on drains the battery like no other.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think most people agree the iPhone's OS is much more polished. It doesn't help that both HTC and Sprint add applications and background processes. Scrolling on the android is a tad slower and a little more jerky. One thing that bugs the hell out of me is, on HTC sense, if you press the applications icon, open an application, but decide to go back to the applications screen, it doesn't do that! It goes back to the home screen. That frustrates me so much. Froyo doesn't do that so right now I'm pretty happy.
I can't think of anything else, but I'm pretty torn right now about keeping the EVO or getting an iPhone 4. Any advice?
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I have currently an iphone 3Gs and just got the Evo opening day. I am just now able to really install and get a feel for the EVO since we just got back from vacation. I am becoming more and more pleased with the EVO each time I use it. THere are many things that the EVO can do that iphone cant do even being Jailbroken, which my Iphone is. As i use it i will report more. Right now im having loads of fun with my EVO. Yes, I will get the iphone 4 when it comes out. I guess you can tell im a gadget kind of person. There are just a few things with the EVO that has to be fixed, and I feel like it will be much better with the Froyo.
One thing I really like about the EVO is its browsing. How it resizes the screen and paragraphs so you dont have to scroll right to left. Iphone doesnt have that. Yet. Maybe the new update. Will wait and see. But for now, Evo is in my pocket and iphone is on the bedroom nitestand.

binxer said:
I also came from a 3G and have similar opinions:
Screen - Damn this screen is beautiful. It definitely is hard to go back to the iPhone just because of this. In addition, I can see much more on the screen without having to zoom (unsure if this is because of the larger screen or increased resolution, or both). On the other hand, it does seems more reflective than the iPhone. I have a hard time seeing the screen in the sun because of all the glare. It's very nice indoors though.
Syncing - much better than the iPhone. iTunes is okay when it works but it just has too many problems. Plus, being able to manually put things on the android without having to root is awesome.
Navigation - Wow. Google navigation blew me away when I first used it. Streetview is a nice touch. Nothing compared to that on the iPhone unless you pay a decent amount.
Customization - being able to root and apply all sorts of different ROMS is pretty badass. Currently, I'm using a Froyo ROM and I have to say... much better than HTC Sense. I guess I like stock android better (I hate HTCs keyboard - too crowded).
Notifications - hot damn I love notifications on android. This is what may keep me on android. It works so well with gmail.
Widgets are awesome
My issues that may swing me back to the iPhone (and please, if I can fix any of these issues, let me know):
I hate having to press the power button to wake from sleep. Maybe I'm just used to pressing the bottom button on the iPhone, but it was just so much easier for me. Of course, not a deal breaker, but very annoying.
It could be just me, but the screen seems hypersensitive. When I'm scrolling up and down, I'm constantly opening apps/menus that I don't want to. It seems to be getting better, so maybe I just need to get used to it.
I'm in Hawaii and the 4G is supposed to be pretty good -- looking at the coverage maps on sprint shows mostly blue where I live. However, I seem to get spotty coverage and the speeds compared to 3G aren't what they advertise. I was so looking forward to 4G. To add insult to injury, leaving 4G on drains the battery like no other.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think most people agree the iPhone's OS is much more polished. It doesn't help that both HTC and Sprint add applications and background processes. Scrolling on the android is a tad slower and a little more jerky. One thing that bugs the hell out of me is, on HTC sense, if you press the applications icon, open an application, but decide to go back to the applications screen, it doesn't do that! It goes back to the home screen. That frustrates me so much. Froyo doesn't do that so right now I'm pretty happy.
I can't think of anything else, but I'm pretty torn right now about keeping the EVO or getting an iPhone 4. Any advice?
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To shut off the locksreen go to the matket and get no lock.
After it is installed just launch it and click on the lock.
After that you will just heve to hit the volume button to bring upi the home screen.

I had pretty bad light leakage on the bottom after the first couple days, now that part of the screen has lifted by about 0.5mm and it moves when I squeeze down. This thing has to go back . Just for the hell of it I tried browsing the web on my 3G... I can't imagine going back to such a tiny screen, but it looks like I have to. ugh.
Gary

Cool good info here.

cloudyphiz said:
I love it so far and shudder at the thought of having to go back to an iPhone. In fact I picked up my 3G today and it felt like a sad pathetic joke
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LoL
You sir... have had an AWAKENING!

I came from the iPhone and I can personally tell you this thing DESTROYS the iPhone..
1. CALENDAR SYNC via Exchange - Calendar use is WAY better on Android - one touch navigation of the "Where" clickable numbers(granted the iphone had this) and a beautiful widget to go on the front screen... another widget to show me my upcoming appointment and another to make a "Calendar folder" which makes it a bit easier
2. Notifications, Multi-tasking... Ahh the beauty of using Pandora while writing an e-mail or text message instead of going out of the song each time... being on Skype and Facebook Chat at all times and being that much easier to get ahold of (without the phone call to use my minutes)... LOVE IT
3. Screen Size, Screen Brightness - the screen destroys the iPhone and I have no problem with the touch at all..
4. Apps - I love the openness of the apps.. any major app I used (Pandora, Slacker, etc) are on both Android and iPhone (granted they are usually a bit more developed on the iPhone but I get things like MP3 Explorer that let me download songs when I want them.. something I would need to jailbreak my iPhone for...
5. Customized Home Screen - No need to talk about that... way better then iPhone... I don't feel like I'm the same as every other iPhone user
Okay Okay I coudl go on literally forever ... My iPhone feels like a dinosaur.. Facetime will probably be better video chat then QIK - because QIK SUCKS!!! But its only over WiFi and iPhone 4 to iPhone 4... so I'm not that envious..
One bad thing - battery... granted you get way more power and you can expect that the battery won't be as good... and I'm near a charger most of the time anyways... but I wish they woulda put a super super strong battery in this thing .. I'd be willing to deal with a thicker phone for a battery that's twice as capable!

I just don't get why android can't play all video types.. I'm very surprised that someone hasn't figured out a way to make this work.

jtadeo said:
I just don't get why android can't play all video types.. I'm very surprised that someone hasn't figured out a way to make this work.
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yeah.. but my guess.. soon there will be an app on the market that will be better and use more formats.
Like most things on android.. if you dont like it.. you can find an app for that!

Mod. edit: Warez link removed. RockPlayer is a beta, the developer didn't consent it's distribution. Consider this 1st warning!http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699824

cloudyphiz said:
For the first five days I had a huge issue with the battery draining while in standby, and because of that I expected to return the phone. Now that I have logged out of google talk and changed to CDMA auto it's doing much better... I seem to get at least 6 hours of continuous use with little power draining when the screen is off, which I can definitely live with.
Here are the things I love about the evo:
* Being able to plug it in to my computer and mount it as a drive. So simple, and so frustrating that apple won't allow it.
* Google navigation. It's awesome, and much safer since it has text to speech.
* The screen size is amazing... I love that it lets me view docs in meetings so I hardly have to print anything
* Wifi tethering
Here are my main issues, the big ones that might make me have to return it:
* Horrible wifi reception. I have yet to pick up a signal at work, and I have no problem with my iPhone & laptop.
* It sucks as a media player. I have a huge library full of lossless files, and I don't have the energy to convert everything (yes I've tried doubletwist and andless but I can't get it to recognize the artist/album/songnames properly). I listen to a lot of music so this is a major PITA for me.
* Build quality kind of scares me, light leakage etc.; it makes me feel like I need to get the insurance. This plan is costing me way more than an iPhone 4 would (since I still have two other lines on AT&T with one year left on the contract and I get a lower corporate discount) and I hate the thought of paying any more.
The evo is not without it's imperfections, but I love it so far and shudder at the thought of having to go back to an iPhone. In fact I picked up my 3G today and it felt like a sad pathetic joke, like going back to one of those 12 lb. i486 laptops from the 90's. And nobody wants that.
Gary
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Good comparison. One app you might wanna try for you music needs is btunes. It is basically like the iphone music player. It does cost money but so far its the best one I have used. I have the Hero so I do not know if it works on the EVO yet but you might wanna give it a try. Also when you buy a app if you havent figured it out yet you have 24hrs trial if you dont like it uninstall and you will be refunded. Hope that helps

dwertz said:
Mod. edit: No it's not. Warez link removed. This is a beta, the developer didn't consent it's distribution.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512
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Is it a free program?

it is in beta right now so for this version yes

Issues with Xoom WiFi - 3/27/11

Picked one up from Costco today - there is a long list of things wrong with it, I hope there are fixes out there cause they are really critical flaws and I'm close to returning it back to store. Oh, I own a EVO4G so I'm by no means a noob to Android. Its also important to note that I don't own any apple products
1. Browser:
Wow force closes like none other. It also fails to load any website after you've crashed once. No way around it except rebooting the device. Poor adobe flash performance - should be much faster than my Evo but it ain't so. Defaults to mobile browser as stated on here. Screen, text fonts and pics started to blur when I was on a website, serious bug wow. Tried alternatives such a as firefox and dolphin, meh. Did I mention it was laggy, irresponsive browsing experience?
2. Apps:
Faceook, Pandora, VPlayer, etc. fail to work. Force close heaven...come on! They're basic frggin apps. Market is portrait only. Most apps aren't formatted properly - fonts are way too small. Widgets are non customizable in size and are just too small to be useful. Look at the calendar and mail widgets....
3. Display:
10.1'' is way too wide to hold comfortably. I now spend 100% of the time in portrait mode. Videos look proper but pictures look blurry? Fonts look horrendous. Screen has this blurring effect, it is far far from crisp and decent. I expected 1280x800 to be better, sharper.
4. Build.
Heavy. So heavy you cant even rest it on just anything to get it to prop up properly. Very Dense. Not comfortable, strain to the palms.
5. Battery
4 hours of use and its already down to 60%. Expected better from two large batteries weighing this much.
I know I forgot to list some other issues...and sadly there are more.
Honeycomb is unfinished but I didn't expect them to be this far off?
OK.... we need solutions, or when is the next update(s)! Desperately needed.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

Ehm ... Didn't you research before you bought the Xoom?
It's been in this very forum for weeks ... all those were mentioned.
Nothing new ... so cope with it and wait for an update ... or return it.
Case closed.

1) Only had one browser FC in nearly a month.
2) Not 3.0 optimized apps. Contact the app devs.
3) Get bigger hands.
4) Lift weights. Apparently the Xoom is a good one to start with.
5) I get at least two days of heavy use.
(Bonus comment) The Xoom has been out a month and there are 3415453215 threads of people whining about it. No need to make another. Return it, do some research and buy something that satisfies your expectations and anatomy.

You made me laugh ... LOL to "anatomy"
El Daddy said:
1) Only had one browser FC in nearly a month.
2) Not 3.0 optimized apps. Contact the app devs.
3) Get bigger hands.
4) Lift weights. Apparently the Xoom is a good one to start with.
5) I get at least two days of heavy use.
(Bonus comment) The Xoom has been out a month and there are 3415453215 threads of people whining about it. No need to make another. Return it, do some research and buy something that satisfies your expectations and anatomy.
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Just to counterbalance, I bought the Xoom wifi yesterday and love it. I had a great time rooting and playing with my Android phone, and I can't wait to dig into the Xoom. I did a lot of research before buying the Xoom and actually found the problems to be non-existant or not as bad as stated.

Mr Bland said:
Just to counterbalance, I bought the Xoom wifi yesterday and love it. I had a great time rooting and playing with my Android phone, and I can't wait to dig into the Xoom. I did a lot of research before buying the Xoom and actually found the problems to be non-existant or not as bad as stated.
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Same here. Im getting great battery life. I took it off the charger about 6pm last night. Took it took work with me and browsed and streamed with it all night. With bluetooth on and a lil under max brightness im at 32% at 745am. i have had no force closes in the browser and the only problem i have is flash not working in the browser (works with Dolphin though).
Also thumb keyboard is great in landscape, but im comfy with the stock keyboard to.

Pretty sure, could be wrong here...but pretty sure an update won't help the weight of the device...(which I enjoy, feels good in my hand)...but then again if they optimize code enough between now and then, removing enough 1s and 0s could help....

vTeCz said:
Picked one up from Costco today - there is a long list of things wrong with it, I hope there are fixes out there cause they are really critical flaws and I'm close to returning it back to store. Oh, I own a EVO4G so I'm by no means a noob to Android. Its also important to note that I don't own any apple products
1. Browser:
Wow force closes like none other. It also fails to load any website after you've crashed once. No way around it except rebooting the device. Poor adobe flash performance - should be much faster than my Evo but it ain't so. Defaults to mobile browser as stated on here. Screen, text fonts and pics started to blur when I was on a website, serious bug wow. Tried alternatives such a as firefox and dolphin, meh. Did I mention it was laggy, irresponsive browsing experience?
2. Apps:
Faceook, Pandora, VPlayer, etc. fail to work. Force close heaven...come on! They're basic frggin apps. Market is portrait only. Most apps aren't formatted properly - fonts are way too small. Widgets are non customizable in size and are just too small to be useful. Look at the calendar and mail widgets....
3. Display:
10.1'' is way too wide to hold comfortably. I now spend 100% of the time in portrait mode. Videos look proper but pictures look blurry? Fonts look horrendous. Screen has this blurring effect, it is far far from crisp and decent. I expected 1280x800 to be better, sharper.
4. Build.
Heavy. So heavy you cant even rest it on just anything to get it to prop up properly. Very Dense. Not comfortable, strain to the palms.
5. Battery
4 hours of use and its already down to 60%. Expected better from two large batteries weighing this much.
I know I forgot to list some other issues...and sadly there are more.
Honeycomb is unfinished but I didn't expect them to be this far off?
OK.... we need solutions, or when is the next update(s)! Desperately needed.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
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That's why I returned my 3G Xoom I had on release date and was bashed here. Minus the battery and app fc(which is supposedly a WiFi only problem.) I mean I got the iPad2 because it's just so much more Stable and likewise have my Evo4G for Android goodness. I wanted to buy the wifi xoom but so many more problems......?
Really interested in Samsungs new 10.1 skinny design. And it's light(important)!

vTeCz said:
Picked one up from Costco today - there is a long list of things wrong with it, I hope there are fixes out there cause they are really critical flaws and I'm close to returning it back to store. Oh, I own a EVO4G so I'm by no means a noob to Android. Its also important to note that I don't own any apple products
1. Browser:
Wow force closes like none other. It also fails to load any website after you've crashed once. No way around it except rebooting the device. Poor adobe flash performance - should be much faster than my Evo but it ain't so. Defaults to mobile browser as stated on here. Screen, text fonts and pics started to blur when I was on a website, serious bug wow. Tried alternatives such a as firefox and dolphin, meh. Did I mention it was laggy, irresponsive browsing experience?
2. Apps:
Faceook, Pandora, VPlayer, etc. fail to work. Force close heaven...come on! They're basic frggin apps. Market is portrait only. Most apps aren't formatted properly - fonts are way too small. Widgets are non customizable in size and are just too small to be useful. Look at the calendar and mail widgets....
3. Display:
10.1'' is way too wide to hold comfortably. I now spend 100% of the time in portrait mode. Videos look proper but pictures look blurry? Fonts look horrendous. Screen has this blurring effect, it is far far from crisp and decent. I expected 1280x800 to be better, sharper.
4. Build.
Heavy. So heavy you cant even rest it on just anything to get it to prop up properly. Very Dense. Not comfortable, strain to the palms.
5. Battery
4 hours of use and its already down to 60%. Expected better from two large batteries weighing this much.
I know I forgot to list some other issues...and sadly there are more.
Honeycomb is unfinished but I didn't expect them to be this far off?
OK.... we need solutions, or when is the next update(s)! Desperately needed.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
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1) Mine doesnt FC all that much. When there is a fail however, closing all tabs with the x on the tabs, reopening the browser and hitting the home button works for me to reset it.
2)Yeah, lots of apps fail... but it was expected. Once they get optimized for HC, itll be nicer. Till then facebook and some others are done through the browser. Also... my market works in landscape. Dont know why yours is only in portrait.
3&4) You seriously are complaining about the design of the device when you could have found this out in 2 seconds by holding one at a store that had a demo??? I find that the screen is very crisp with high res pics and I have no complaints on it.
5) My battery life is great... no complaints here. Wife and I played with it non stop with angry birds, web surfing and whatnot for hours and it only went down maybe 20%.
I really dont see this as a fail device, just a device that needs a few tweaks here and there. I bought it knowing the charging plug was crappy and a terrible design, no USB charging and a chance that my normal android apps wont work on it due to optimization. Knowing what it is going to be used for, the size and weight... I am more than happy with the device.

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5. Battery
4 hours of use and its already down to 60%. Expected better from two large batteries weighing this much.
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You are experiencing advertised battery life. The XOOM is rated for 10 hours of battery life so 4 hours would be 40% of the battery if you've been using it for that long. Plus you haven't run through any charge cycles on your battery. It will get better.

One and Two are valid, but will be fixed in time.
The others are rediculous.
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vTeCz said:
Picked one up from Costco today - there is a long list of things wrong with it, I hope there are fixes out there cause they are really critical flaws and I'm close to returning it back to store. Oh, I own a EVO4G so I'm by no means a noob to Android. Its also important to note that I don't own any apple products
1. Browser:
Wow force closes like none other. It also fails to load any website after you've crashed once. No way around it except rebooting the device. Poor adobe flash performance - should be much faster than my Evo but it ain't so. Defaults to mobile browser as stated on here. Screen, text fonts and pics started to blur when I was on a website, serious bug wow. Tried alternatives such a as firefox and dolphin, meh. Did I mention it was laggy, irresponsive browsing experience?
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Odd. I've been using my device pretty much constantly since I picked mine up. No force closes. No laggy browsing. Your Evo does better? You may have a defective unit.
2. Apps:
Faceook, Pandora, VPlayer, etc. fail to work. Force close heaven...come on! They're basic frggin apps. Market is portrait only. Most apps aren't formatted properly - fonts are way too small. Widgets are non customizable in size and are just too small to be useful. Look at the calendar and mail widgets....
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Facebook works for me. The rest I haven't tried. And the widgets are personal preference. Too small? How old are you?
3. Display:
10.1'' is way too wide to hold comfortably. I now spend 100% of the time in portrait mode. Videos look proper but pictures look blurry? Fonts look horrendous. Screen has this blurring effect, it is far far from crisp and decent. I expected 1280x800 to be better, sharper.
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10.1 too wide? Last I checked, you could have pulled out a ruler to figure that one out. But hey, whatever. Blurry screen? Again, you must have a defective unit. Either that, or maybe your fingers are really, really greasy.
4. Build.
Heavy. So heavy you cant even rest it on just anything to get it to prop up properly. Very Dense. Not comfortable, strain to the palms.
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I'm getting a very interesting image of what you look like. 1.5lb is too heavy? Orly?
5. Battery
4 hours of use and its already down to 60%. Expected better from two large batteries weighing this much.
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I've had mine running since I got to work at 1am (i work 3rd shift), and after a full shift, I still have 45% battery. I've watched youtube videos (HD), listening to music, downloaded apps, posted on forums, read news, downloaded podcasts, added numerous widgets. You know, typical stuff. And it hasn't touched the charger all morning (since you have to use their approved usb charger).
I know I forgot to list some other issues...and sadly there are more.
Honeycomb is unfinished but I didn't expect them to be this far off?
OK.... we need solutions, or when is the next update(s)! Desperately needed.
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I'm not saying the Xoom with Honeycomb is flawless. It's clearly not as optimized as it should be. Opening up the Apps menu, for example, should obviously not be laggy like it is. That said though, most of the "issues" you have above are NOT mirrored on my identical device.

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Odd. I've been using my device pretty much constantly since I picked mine up. No force closes. No laggy browsing. Your Evo does better? You may have a defective unit.
Facebook works for me. The rest I haven't tried. And the widgets are personal preference. Too small? How old are you?
10.1 too wide? Last I checked, you could have pulled out a ruler to figure that one out. But hey, whatever. Blurry screen? Again, you must have a defective unit. Either that, or maybe your fingers are really, really greasy.
I'm getting a very interesting image of what you look like. 1.5lb is too heavy? Orly?
I've had mine running since I got to work at 1am (i work 3rd shift), and after a full shift, I still have 45% battery. I've watched youtube videos (HD), listening to music, downloaded apps, posted on forums, read news, downloaded podcasts, added numerous widgets. You know, typical stuff. And it hasn't touched the charger all morning (since you have to use their approved usb charger).
I'm not saying the Xoom with Honeycomb is flawless. It's clearly not as optimized as it should be. Opening up the Apps menu, for example, should obviously not be laggy like it is. That said though, most of the "issues" you have above are NOT mirrored on my identical device.
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Have to say facebook acts like the old roms for the tablet use to. Sometimes it would crash, and you can't add facebook in accounts / sync. Twitter adds just fine

I spent about 7 hours playing on my xoom yesterday and really didn't experience any of the problems you did. Yes some of my phone formatted apps weren't working but I expected that.
I think I had one force close with my browser. That's not so bad.
Screen looks fine to me. Yes initially loading a webpage is blurry, but that's just how its rendering stuff. For me at least that lasts maybe a second before the browser fully loads the page.
And if its too big for you, maybe you should get a child sized tablet for your child sized hands? (Or stick with your phone?)
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Aldiko, ezpdf, xda premium and many others I use on a daily basis are completely useless as the fc's are so frequent is not worth my time
I did read about all the issues beforehand, so right now I have 89 days before either there is an update that fixes the issues or is going back to cotsco
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At first I was upset that the XDA app doesn't work properly yet. Then I thought, "Hey dummy, you have a 10.1" screen... Use the real site".
After that I uninstalled Facebook, Engadget, etc. and just added the bookmark widget to the home screen.
Sent from my Xoom.

i only get about 6.5 hours max of real usage on the xoom
I'm talking about 'DISPLAY' time usage, or, HOW LONG the screen has been on, as a case to determine the battery life.

MikeyMike01 said:
At first I was upset that the XDA app doesn't work properly yet. Then I thought, "Hey dummy, you have a 10.1" screen... Use the real site".
After that I uninstalled Facebook, Engadget, etc. and just added the bookmark widget to the home screen.
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The problem with XDA site specifically is that it is very slow typing responses and some other things. It does work, just lags.

aohus said:
i only get about 6.5 hours max of real usage on the xoom
I'm talking about 'DISPLAY' time usage, or, HOW LONG the screen has been on, as a case to determine the battery life.
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And what goes into said usage? I'm overclocked to 1.5ghz and I get much longer than that.

keitht said:
The problem with XDA site specifically is that it is very slow typing responses and some other things. It does work, just lags.
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I've found all typing in the browser lags, and always has, since my OG Droid. It's quite annoying, I expected Google to resolve it with 3.0...