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Engadget Nexus One Review

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/
Kind of ridiculous. They wished it had a keyboard. Why don't they say that about the iPhone
I think google hasn't optimized Android for the snapdragon as well as they could have. Cyanogen needs to get his godly hands on this thing ASAP and build his kernel for it. It is simply amazing at the amount of speed he got out of a G1. I can't wait to see what he does with a snapdragon

I agree. There are features that were not discussed on the phone that blows the iPhone away. Exchange syncing etc. I love the one sided view. Like I posted before, I have a 3G iPhone as well and I think iPhone is a nice thing and 4th Gen should be good but you have to compare apples to apples. When comparing apples to androids, you have issues and miss out things. People are making a big deal about multi touch. Yeah droid does not have it either. But once cyanogen gets his hand on the kernel, that will be there.
I love Apple's devices as much as the next apple fanboy but you have to give credit where credit is due. N1 is a damn good phone. They are all good phones. Period. They all have their own pros and cons. That's that.

Why wouldn't you post this in the existing Engadget review thread? Just saying...

seraph1024 said:
I love Apple's devices as much as the next apple fanboy but you have to give credit where credit is due. N1 is a damn good phone. They are all good phones. Period. They all have their own pros and cons. That's that.
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Thank you! I'm sick of comparisons that have no value to a vast majority of customers.
A vast majority doesn't switch carriers every month. What do I care about phone for other carriers, it's such a luxury to switch carriers, most people wait for contracts to expire before switching carriers.
I'm on Tmobile. Tmobile has few android phones and the best android phones so far have gone to sprint and verizon anyway.
On top of that, the Nexus One is being subsidized. For these reasons, to tmo customers, it's a very exciting phone. What other phone is there to be excited for on tmo? None, especially in the Android category.
How much value do these reviews have for normal users on limited budgets?

seraph1024 said:
I agree. There are features that were not discussed on the phone that blows the iPhone away. Exchange syncing etc. I love the one sided view. Like I posted before, I have a 3G iPhone as well and I think iPhone is a nice thing and 4th Gen should be good but you have to compare apples to apples. When comparing apples to androids, you have issues and miss out things. People are making a big deal about multi touch. Yeah droid does not have it either. But once cyanogen gets his hand on the kernel, that will be there.
I love Apple's devices as much as the next apple fanboy but you have to give credit where credit is due. N1 is a damn good phone. They are all good phones. Period. They all have their own pros and cons. That's that.
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The review wasn't about android vs iphone. Thats why exchange syncing was not included since its on all android phones and probably wasn't improved on the N1 so theres no point in comparing them.
The only comparison made between the iphone was the browser speed.
And i believe the review did say the N1 was an awesome phone with a few hiccups like all phones.
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Kind of ridiculous. They wished it had a keyboard. Why don't they say that about the iPhone
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I think it was because the touch buttons below the screen made it so that you always accidentally touched the buttons when composing a msg using the touchscreen keyboard.

engadget's review of the N1 was a joke. they complained about the missing 48 missing pixels that the droid had over the N1. lol seriously? its not even in-depth. Wheres the bluetooth, 3G connection, video recording... etc tests? they did a browser test of their site that many have commented to be not a good test. could've tested more sites. overall, a lot of comparison to the iphone and how its not up to the hype. i'm still getting the N1.

kev30 said:
engadget's review of the N1 was a joke. they complained about the missing 48 missing pixels that the droid had over the N1. lol seriously? its not even in-depth. Wheres the bluetooth, 3G connection, video recording... etc tests? they did a browser test of their site that many have commented to be not a good test. could've tested more sites. overall, a lot of comparison to the iphone and how its not up to the hype. i'm still getting the N1.
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I redid the same test here: http://www.erodov.com/forums/google-nexus-one-phone-review/29287-page7.html

This "bad" press is telling me something...

On the outside someone might be thinking the N1 is a terrible phone plauged with problems etc. But the more I look into these articles and reviews they seem to be 'complaining' about non issues.
You've all seen the engadget and gizmodo reviews, but take this article: 6 reasons not to like the nexus one!? This guy made up his mind before he even picked up the phone, and then wrote his article based on other bias reviews.
There was also an article featured on /. regarding the support backlash but all it cites are random 'customers' getting bounced around, and doesn't corrilate a common problem or state what these 'people' were having problem with. However there does seem to be a real problem with 3g/edge flapping. If the article had been written as well as this random forum poster I would be fine with it, but instead PCW took the angle of FUD, and it just angers me.
...and then it hit me, this phone might just be the iphone killer and fanboys are actually getting scared. Thoughts?

"6 reasons to hate" is a hands-off schoolboy attempt at bashing.
he's just pissed he isn't important enough (or hasn't budgeted his finances) enough to have one handed him.
the other non-reviews are a farce. when there is a real, hands on, weekly use review of the nexus, i'll listen up. for now it's all M$ generated (and other mobile OS venders) fud that proves the nexus is awesome hardware, running awesome software.
sure, there are some what-ifs about verizon/att/whoever, but they're just carriers. dumb pipes. really really dumb pipes. we all know it's the hardware and more importantly the SOFTWARE that matters. the dumb pipe carriers are just mad they finally have a real reason to fear phones that are not chained to their crappy services and contracts.
let them whine. the fud is easy to cut through with logic.

I got the Nexus One. Your are correct, the only problem is the 2G/3G connection switching. The computing power of this phone is amazing.

I never like professional reviews for anything, movies, games or tech because theyre all just some one paid to write their opinion, and you never know whos writing their check, or their companies check. I do however like user reviews from people that paid for and really use the product, and I think those have been strong. I think the most important part of the "6 reasons not to like" article is all the backlash at the bottom and users defending the phone, shows how much people really like theirs already. I am really lovin this phone, also I havent had the 3G issues some have been having, I have a mytouch, G1 and N1, all on TMob and they all have 3G all the time for me, I think it really depends on the market cause if it was a hardware or software issue I would think everyone would have that problem

am I the only one who IS NOT seeing this 2G-3G problem? I mean I do see the 3G connection sometimes going from 2 bars to 4 bars in the same area, and In some places around where I live I can't get 3G coverage, but this is the EXACT SAME behavior I saw on my MT3G

First off, I have to say that I absolutely love the N1...I don't remember the last time I was this obsessed with a gadget both before and after I got it.
That being said, I was starting to get a little nervous while waiting for FedEx because of all the bad press I was seeing. But then I noticed that a large chunk of this press was generated by sites like macworld.com or other apple, iphone, mac related sites. While the N1 has some minor glitches(what piece of technology doesn't), this is mostly a case of fanboys feeling threatened because people won't be oohing and aahing over there iphone as much.
P.S. I came from a G1 and am seeing absolutely no difference/problem with my 2g/3g service.

These network issues seem to be only in the US.
Never had any problems in the UK with my iPhone/3G, G1, Hero.
But then again pretty much all the UK is 3G anyway
Clearly people are writing this phone off without even seeing/using it!
Was in work and two are big WinMo and iPhone fans and they even said a few hours after it was officially announced that the iPhone is better without even knowing anything about it! I then told them about the Snapdragon / 512mb ram etc and then they shifted it saying yer but Android is rubbish!
But in work their are also a few Android users (G1, Tattoo and Hero) and they couldn't wait to see what Android does and if anything from the N1 will get ported etc!
Its just like the good old which console is the best? 360 or PS3! You can argue all day but you will never win the argument!

fdm1 said:
First off, I have to say that I absolutely love the N1...I don't remember the last time I was this obsessed with a gadget both before and after I got it.
That being said, I was starting to get a little nervous while waiting for FedEx because of all the bad press I was seeing. But then I noticed that a large chunk of this press was generated by sites like macworld.com or other apple, iphone, mac related sites. While the N1 has some minor glitches(what piece of technology doesn't), this is mostly a case of fanboys feeling threatened because people won't be oohing and aahing over there iphone as much.
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Or people buying their magazine/products

The fact that "no multi - touch" is riddled on most reviews and that most people are referencing Engadget should make you realize the TERRIBLE shape electronic reviews are in.
Theres only a handful of people that know wtf theyre talking about. Im convinvec none of those people work at Engadget or the slew of other "tech review" sites Im reading. How do you review a product youve never touched ? How do you give a review based on anothers review ? Insulting a trackball ??
I mean jeez sound slike this guy would have his mind blown by a pair of AA batteries.

xManMythLegend said:
The fact that "no multi - touch" is riddled on most reviews and that most people are referencing Engadget should make you realize the TERRIBLE shape electronic reviews are in.
Theres only a handful of people that know wtf theyre talking about. Im convinvec none of those people work at Engadget or the slew of other "tech review" sites Im reading. How do you review a product youve never touched ? How do you give a review based on anothers review ? Insulting a trackball ??
I mean jeez sound slike this guy would have his mind blown by a pair of AA batteries.
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not if AAA batteries were already invented, then the AA would just be stupid because they are missing an "i"... i mean "A"!

bofslime said:
On the outside someone might be thinking the N1 is a terrible phone plauged with problems etc. But the more I look into these articles and reviews they seem to be 'complaining' about non issues.
You've all seen the engadget and gizmodo reviews, but take this article: 6 reasons not to like the nexus one!? This guy made up his mind before he even picked up the phone, and then wrote his article based on other bias reviews.
There was also an article featured on /. regarding the support backlash but all it cites are random 'customers' getting bounced around, and doesn't corrilate a common problem or state what these 'people' were having problem with. However there does seem to be a real problem with 3g/edge flapping. If the article had been written as well as this random forum poster I would be fine with it, but instead PCW took the angle of FUD, and it just angers me.
...and then it hit me, this phone might just be the iphone killer and fanboys are actually getting scared. Thoughts?
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i agree completely. i have zero, ZERO problems with by n1 except for the dynamic polar clock of course. Google was very prompt with a return e-mail about the polar clock also. im very sure Google has an update soon for up to fix the polar clock and the 3g/edge switch issue. i seem to remember alot of bad press about the iphone when it originally came out also, as i recall it had alot of bugs. i guess this is "bad press" is our hater-aid and we should just drink up while the ifanboys drink their Apple kool-aid.

xManMythLegend said:
The fact that "no multi - touch" is riddled on most reviews and that most people are referencing Engadget should make you realize the TERRIBLE shape electronic reviews are in.
Theres only a handful of people that know wtf theyre talking about. Im convinvec none of those people work at Engadget or the slew of other "tech review" sites Im reading. How do you review a product youve never touched ? How do you give a review based on anothers review ? Insulting a trackball ??
I mean jeez sound slike this guy would have his mind blown by a pair of AA batteries.
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REMOVABLE BATTERIES?! NON-SENSE! (sarcasm)
I don't really get why people are bashing the N1. In the end, it's the same as the 3gs in terms of app placement- the hardware's faster than the other two models and developers have to make a choice of whether or not to take advantage of it- Android's made tons of improvements and now there's even fewer restrictions on the hardware (sold unlocked, super easy root)
I've loved my G1 for awhile and while it's a tank, I eagerly await getting the N1 at the end of the month as I've been able to toy with one (boss ordered after CES) and it pretty much lives up to all the hype.
I'm eager to get my hands on the section of the SDK that will allow for programming of live wallpapers- i love theming, and I can't wait to get a few of my ideas for a live background.

melterx12 said:
am I the only one who IS NOT seeing this 2G-3G problem? I mean I do see the 3G connection sometimes going from 2 bars to 4 bars in the same area, and In some places around where I live I can't get 3G coverage, but this is the EXACT SAME behavior I saw on my MT3G
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NO problems with 3G/EDGE here either. Same performance as my G1.

bofslime said:
On the outside someone might be thinking the N1 is a terrible phone plauged with problems etc. But the more I look into these articles and reviews they seem to be 'complaining' about non issues.
You've all seen the engadget and gizmodo reviews, but take this article: 6 reasons not to like the nexus one!? This guy made up his mind before he even picked up the phone, and then wrote his article based on other bias reviews.
There was also an article featured on /. regarding the support backlash but all it cites are random 'customers' getting bounced around, and doesn't corrilate a common problem or state what these 'people' were having problem with. However there does seem to be a real problem with 3g/edge flapping. If the article had been written as well as this random forum poster I would be fine with it, but instead PCW took the angle of FUD, and it just angers me.
...and then it hit me, this phone might just be the iphone killer and fanboys are actually getting scared. Thoughts?
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lol that 6 reasons article is definitly a Iphone user trying to give google and t-mobile a bad name, BUT im not to fond of them right now myself because of the whole family plan/Corporate discount thing which is keeping me from getting one cause im not spending 530$ haha.

xManMythLegend said:
The fact that "no multi - touch" is riddled on most reviews and that most people are referencing Engadget should make you realize the TERRIBLE shape electronic reviews are in.
Theres only a handful of people that know wtf theyre talking about. Im convinvec none of those people work at Engadget or the slew of other "tech review" sites Im reading. How do you review a product youve never touched ? How do you give a review based on anothers review ? Insulting a trackball ??
I mean jeez sound slike this guy would have his mind blown by a pair of AA batteries.
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The trackball comment sounded like it was pulled directly from the gizmodo review. The trackball does the same thing it has on every android phone, there's nothing to report here.

Those tech writer/review are dumb asses. Every new good potential phones that come out they write up a review or hand on and then compare it to the iphone and then they talk junk about it. Esp those engadget @sshole. For ex, when the N900 came out, they talk mad sh!t about it comparing to the iphone, well for once, if they were smart enough, iphone is up to 3.1 version, and maemo 5 is still not complete. And now the nexus, android os had about 1.5 yr to grow so far. Iphone os? Well maybe 3 now? Iphone didnt have mms til 3.0 comes out, those reviewer are a bunch of iphone fanboys who seriously cant stand the thought of a competing device that might have a chance to beat it. I rather read forums and base my buying decision than trusting some blog writing techy.

shata said:
lol that 6 reasons article is definitly a Iphone user trying to give google and t-mobile a bad name, BUT im not to fond of them right now myself because of the whole family plan/Corporate discount thing which is keeping me from getting one cause im not spending 530$ haha.
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I had a discussion yesterday with one of my coworkers on that, because he's stuck on a family plan. But this is a t-mobile decision, and them doing what they've always done and screwing over existing customer in favor of new signups. I'd kinda like to see the churn numbers at tmo. In any event, its still cheaper to buy the phone outright and continue with my grandfathered plan, even further non-contract plans are still cheaper in the end, and tmo is the only provider currently offering this inside the United States.

I hate everything about my new super sleek, super fast N1. What I hate most is its speed. Actually, I think I hate its awesome screen the most. Or that it's too light and thin for the power it has. I also hate how easily my contacts, calendar and email sync seemlessly with my device. I hate the fact I have to use a top of the line browser when going online and I especially hate that all my music plays so well. Watching all those HD quality movies I've converted and watching high quality YouTube videos is so boring. I can't stand my desktop full of all those widgets that provide me with useful information and those folders keeping my apps sorted just get in the way. But--and here's the most important thing I hate about my N1--I hate that I can make phone calls wherever I am. I'd much rather my calls be dropped. And that's all before I even rooted it to get access to more stuff to make my N1 terrible.

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I hate everything about my new super sleek, super fast N1. What I hate most is its speed. Actually, I think I hate its awesome screen the most. Or that it's too light and thin for the power it has. I also hate how easily my contacts, calendar and email sync seemlessly with my device. I hate the fact I have to use a top of the line browser when going online and I especially hate that all my music plays so well. Watching all those HD quality movies I've converted and watching high quality YouTube videos is so boring. I can't stand my desktop full of all those widgets that provide me with useful information and those folders keeping my apps sorted just get in the way. But--and here's the most important thing I hate about my N1--I hate that I can make phone calls wherever I am. I'd much rather my calls be dropped. And that's all before I even rooted it to get access to more stuff to make my N1 terrible.
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+1 Those things are SO annoying! And how about that damn 5mp camera with it's stupid flash taking really good pictures all the time, it's like god, stop already, I don't want to see things so well!

AndroidAppCritic said:
I hate everything about my new super sleek, super fast N1. What I hate most is its speed. Actually, I think I hate its awesome screen the most. Or that it's too light and thin for the power it has. I also hate how easily my contacts, calendar and email sync seemlessly with my device. I hate the fact I have to use a top of the line browser when going online and I especially hate that all my music plays so well. Watching all those HD quality movies I've converted and watching high quality YouTube videos is so boring. I can't stand my desktop full of all those widgets that provide me with useful information and those folders keeping my apps sorted just get in the way. But--and here's the most important thing I hate about my N1--I hate that I can make phone calls wherever I am. I'd much rather my calls be dropped. And that's all before I even rooted it to get access to more stuff to make my N1 terrible.
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Hi,
I am an executive for Engadget.com and I have taken an interest in your talent for reviewing new technology and writing reports. I would like to offer you a job on my staff for reviewing new phones on the market. I won't go into detail on public forums about the specifics of the job but I can tell you that we will supply you with a free Iphone3gs and free unlimited everything contract, compliments of our partnership with Apple and ATT. If you would like further details please private message me.
Thanks

N1 makes Top 10 list

I just saw this post on CNN.com. The N1 is on there. Thought I would share
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2035319,00.html?hpt=T2

Here's the direct link. Go N1!
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2035319_2033840_2033834,00.html

That's pretty cool....finally recognized for it's greatness.

Wow, like seeing some great N1 news! About time!!

Hip-hip-hooray!

N1 also ranked higher than iPhone 4. sweet... Wondering why?

ah finally SOME recognition. But of course, the ipad was ranked number 1

I'm shocked that the N1 was ranked above the iPhone 4. I love my N1, but I have to say that the hardware on the iPhone 4 is incredible.
Perhaps it was rated lower due to its antenna issues.

Old MuckenMire said:
That's pretty cool....finally recognized for it's greatness.
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You guys must be reading a different article than I saw. The one I read was more of the same "sales didn't meet expectations, it's not really that great of a phone but more of a novelty" drivel that I've seen written by everyone who doesn't "get" it.
This year Google tried (and failed) to capitalize on customer frustrations with wireless-phone manufactures and their multiyear contracts as well as the dominant tech company's brand. Nexus One is the first and only phone designed specifically by Google to take advantage of its Android software platform. Nexus One, which Google called a superphone (I can almost hear the sarcastic quotes around "called"), wasn't quite the runaway success the search company had hoped for (failure). The phone was ahead of its time but by only months (== insignificant), and even though you could buy it without a contract, you could pick between only AT&T and T-Mobile (bummer)— and you had to pay a premium to do so (the nerve of them to charge money for excellent hardware!). Still, Nexus One owners get updates directly from Google and ahead of other Android phone users.
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It seems like for every positive thing they say, there's two more negative things said or implied. "Still, they get updates directly from Google" doesn't really sound like an appropriate closing statement to an article about a Top 10 piece of tech.
Compare that with the glowing praise for the iPhone4, which was rated one place BELOW the N1:
While sales of 1.7 million units in the first three days of availability are mighty impressive, the iPhone 4's 960-by-640-pixel screen resolution is even more impressive. No competitor has been able to stuff as many pixels into a 3.5-in. (9 cm) LCD. What's more, Apple's front-facing camera and FaceTime software have finally made mobile video chatting popular with regular people.
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:-/

codesplice said:
You guys must be reading a different article than I saw. The one I read was more of the same "sales didn't meet expectations, it's not really that great of a phone but more of a novelty" drivel that I've seen written by everyone who doesn't "get" it.
It seems like for every positive thing they say, there's two more negative things said or implied. "Still, they get updates directly from Google" doesn't really sound like an appropriate closing statement to an article about a Top 10 piece of tech.
Compare that with the glowing praise for the iPhone4, which was rated one place BELOW the N1:
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Is this from cnn also? Just remember that how many people work for cnn knows how to operate a phone. they're are not tech site like engadget our gizmodo our anybody that knows a lot about tech.they only look at the sales number and write **** they want. Probably the writer of that article is an iphone 4 owner that's why he is frustrated when the n1 tops their beloved one. I'd say most of the people there own an iphone or a blackberry device.
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Loving the way they rated the Samsung Galaxy S, with its broken GPS and relatively poor performance for its hardware as #2, LMAO. Lost all credibility for it the moment I saw that.

I was a N1 user who moved on to the iPhone 4 (passed my n1 to my better half), I was pleasantly surprised that it got the higher spot! But what I find interesting is the least coverage it got on Engadget.com, which proves their bias against android and to apple. Yes Mr. Topolsky, keep up the sarcasm on your biasness - extremely shallow and I am still upset about the horrid proximity sensor which you guys never covered properly on your review.

Glad to see it ahead of the iphone 4, but as someone else said its funny to see the still negative comments mixed in with the praise. Love my N1 almost a year later.

Happy to see our precious at #5
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I'm shocked that the N1 was ranked above the iPhone 4. I love my N1, but I have to say that the hardware on the iPhone 4 is incredible.
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I'm not shocked at all, only the iphone screen is better, but smaller!. The Nexus CPU is twice as powerful. http://goo.gl/jPZcF

FACT- Xoom will get updated review scores

with motorola unrolling a 3.0.1 honeycomb update and flash now giving hardware acceleration, its safe to say xoom is slowly tapping into its potential..and theres more in store.
obviously the hardware thats promised but the performance gain is going to be great.
i guess im sounding like a fanboy when i say this but it really ticks me off to see the IPAD2 score on engadget and the xoom.
if they dont update xooms score as these updates come through and others (4g, micro sd slot, bigger **** in pants) i will have no choice but to eat a great nyc steak medium rare with a nice cold beer after work.

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with motorola unrolling a 3.0.1 honeycomb update and flash now giving hardware acceleration, its safe to say xoom is slowly tapping into its potential..and theres more in store.
obviously the hardware thats promised but the performance gain is going to be great.
i guess im sounding like a fanboy when i say this but it really ticks me off to see the IPAD2 score on engadget and the xoom.
if they dont update xooms score as these updates come through and others (4g, micro sd slot, bigger **** in pants) i will have no choice but to eat a great nyc steak medium rare with a nice cold beer after work.
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Dude, get the steak anyways! Substitute the beer for a scotch and you're all set!

Personally, I'm going to go with a ginger seitan taco and a tequila/mezcal old fashioned.

FACT - Chuck Norris owns a XOOM and gives it three thumbs up!
Seriously, though. I doubt they'll change their score. Did you read the iPad 2 review they did. He said "iPad 2 isn't just the BEST tablet. It's the ONLY tablet on the market."
Bah!

Engadget is useless anyways. Who cares what they rated the Xoom. Their reviews hardly ever offer any unbiased information.

I like Engadget but there's no denying that they have an Apple bias. That's fine, as long as I like the device I couldn't care less what any fanbois think.

I dropped engadget from my feeds after that line.
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I only read engadget for breaking news, etc. I've found their reviews are extremely opinionated and biased and so I don't bother to read them anymore. They always say Android is good but not great, that it's half-baked and not where it should be, and they always give the iPhone and other Apple products (like the insanely overpriced Macbook) the highest reviews and hardly fault them for anything. To say the least, I find that kind of thing annoying coming from one of the most popular blogs on the web. They call themselves journalists but I'm not sure I believe that...
I will say I do still read reviews done by Chris Ziegler. He uses Android phones daily and doesn't own an iPhone, so unlike Joshua Topolsky, I rarely find Apple bias within Chris's reviews. But Josh does most of the big profile reviews (Xoom, etc.) and so I don't read those done by him. I know what I'm going to find were I to click into the review: an unfiltered display of Josh's love for all things Apple. And he ends every review the same way: "(insert apple product name here) is the single best (insert device category, i.e. phone or tablet) on the market today."
Reviews are mostly just opinion most of the time anyway, so I don't think I'm missing much. If an Android product has a big enough flaw to not be worth buying, I'll find that out before a review would be posted anyway.
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so true, i love engadget on everything except apple. its boggles my mind how biased they can be, its just not right. ars technica is so good with proper technology reviews.
my theory also is because of the massssiivvee ipad infactuation, this leads to a slow down on technological innovation, really. Paying high amounts of money for standard tech specs (namely their laptop products) and ipad as well (ram, cpu)
anyways, i dont want to sway too far into this flame ****, people like how it looks and thats its highest value. Bleh
Ill probably have a single malth scotch then.

Updated reviews would be nice, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I will say that if Motorola is able to get out some significant fixes before the WiFi-only version of the Xoom drops, like Flash support (3/18 woohoo!), then hopefully people would just simply do a review of the WiFi-only version and then say that all this also applies to the 3G version that was available initially. Motorola does need to get their marketing act together as you don't often (if ever) get a second chance to make a first impression. I would love to see a Xoom commercial that copied a bit from the iThing commercials where they simply show the apps. For the average user, showing that Android has a lot of the apps that they want will do way more than implying that your tablet can turn into a space ship...

Bauxite said:
I dropped engadget from my feeds after that line.
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I just did the same. ****'em
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Reviews are too biased with them... replaced my feed a while back.

engadget is known to have an apple bias. joshua topolsky even wrote an editorial just praising apple paragraph after paragraph.
but i'm starting to think they do it on purpose to generate more page views. seriously. most engadget readers are anti apple, yet engadget, owned by AOL, is wholly on the side of Apple and its sleazy marketing tactics.

aohus said:
engadget is known to have an apple bias. joshua topolsky even wrote an editorial just praising apple paragraph after paragraph.
but i'm starting to think they do it on purpose to generate more page views. seriously. most engadget readers are anti apple, yet engadget, owned by AOL, is wholly on the side of Apple and its sleazy marketing tactics.
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Exactly this. I like Engadget for everything else, but they don't give Android a fair shake at things.
When you introduce a "new" line of products*, the base assumptions about it are yours to define. A lot of people can't shake the conception that a tablet =/= an iPad. An iPad is a version of a tablet. It's not the base, simplest (all jokes aside) form of one. Android gets points deducted because it's not iOS when it never claims to be. That's where Engadget and other reviewers get everything wrong.
*I know Apple didn't invent the tablet. But for all intents and purposes, it might as well have.

reviews have been a smoke and mirrors show for a while especially in the technology space. there are so many different ways folks use their devices, it makes it tough to do it. I was all gun ho until i found out native mail didn't work with my exchange, then i saw reviews of how touchdown is on par and even rumors they are looking to fix the exchange side certificate issues, might as well get in on the ground floor

there are people out there that are absolutely clueless about Xoom and they will always, and i'm sure some of you guys experienced it, say "is that iPad2?". instead of saying "no", i just let them play with it and show them all the applications. then i'll tell them this is actually Google's tablet - honeycomb.
they're just dumbfounded afterward.

Any Sprint users keeping up with CES?

Something lovely was announced:
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=SEM:Google:P:Sprint:Samsung
Looks like I know what my next phone is. Discuss.

Been posted all over today. Not only here, but on every major media site.

I haven't seen any posts on here yet. But I do see it everywhere media wise. I'm pretty excited.

I post it yesterday and a ritard mod moved my thread.

Hmm making me question if I should of jumped to verizon
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Too bad they invested so much in the iPhone that their phones aregoing to suck til they make their money back.

z33dev33l said:
Too bad they invested so much in the iPhone that their phones aregoing to suck til they make their money back.
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Their phones are going to suck? Why? Did they make a deal for some Nokias?

Again, trolling, that which you so hastily bash. Their phones are going to suck because of the aforementioned reason. Note that nothing profound has been shown at CES in their favor as far as devices go and the last good exclusive they had was a rehashed HD2.

z33dev33l said:
Again, trolling, that which you so hastily bash. Their phones are going to suck because of the aforementioned reason. Note that nothing profound has been shown at CES in their favor as far as devices go and the last good exclusive they had was a rehashed HD2.
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Do you know anything before you open your mouth, or are you just that dumb? They have the Iphone 4s, the SGSII and the Gnex...I think that is a pretty good selection. As for trolling, that was a legitimate question. If their phones are going to suck...they must be nokias...

lowandbehold said:
Do you know anything before you open your mouth, or are you just that dumb? They have the Iphone 4s, the SGSII and the Gnex...I think that is a pretty good selection. As for trolling, that was a legitimate question. If their phones are going to suck...they must be nokias...
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I clearly stated, "exclusives." Though I suppose with your boundless rage towards me you neglect the opportunity to review valid points. I suppose that if you want to discredit Nokia, that's your call. My phone is not measured by it's processor, but by it's efficiency, speed, and build quality.

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I clearly stated, "exclusives." Though I suppose with your boundless rage towards me you neglect the opportunity to review valid points. I suppose that if you want to discredit Nokia, that's your call. My phone is not measured by it's processor, but by it's efficiency, speed, and build quality.
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They will always have your evo exclusives. Your views on business are absolutely horrible. You believe everything you read on the internet. Have you ever came up with an original idea? Im guessing no. Well, I guess buying a $500 phone for a 1 year old doesn't make you the smartest though, so it is to be expected.

Yup, just attempt to attack me personally rather than put forth a valid point. I'm used to it by now, and I could probably do it faster on a WP7.