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which better HTC Touch Pro or HTC Touch Diamond2 ?
now i have HTC Touch Pro, can buy HTC Touch Diamond2, which better
and why?
2 is always better than 1, right?
Strictly in terms of specs, the TD2 outclasses the TP, but there is a Touch Pro 2 available, which just ever so slightly outclasses the TD2. However, it is heavier, larger, and more expensive. From there, it depends on how badly you need a 'real' keyboard.
The only advantage of the Touch Diamond 2 is the slim size (and longer WVGA screen vs. TP). I prefer the more solid feel of the Touch Pro, and after seeing the Tilt 2 (TP2) today, it's definitely a better phone than the Pure (TD2).
Interestingly, the Pure demo phone at the AT&T store had an unresponsive screen. They said it was the second one that had failed. It could have been from their security controls, since I haven't heard of the TD2 having a bad screen.
i was trying to figure that out myself. td2 or tilt2. i havent played with the tilt 2 yet. i bought the pure and love it. like everyone else says is the keyboard and the more cost worth it. to me it wasnt. i bought the fuze when it first came out. i rarely used the keyboard. so a keyboard wasnt that important to me. either way i think there both good phones and you'll be happy with either one.
The TP is not equal to D2. TP is the equal to Diamond1.
So it's D2 of course.
For me, the absence of a real keyboard was offset by the Diamond 2 being slimmer, lighter, and narrower, and therefore fits easily in your pocket with a silicone cover protecting the case.
I rarely wear a jacket to work, so I can't put it in any larger pocket, and since dropping my Himalaya about 4 years ago and smashing the screen, I've not trusted belt clips (fastening broke).
I had the original tilt, got it when it first came out. I really liked the phone. I loved the tilt up screen for video viewing. Im a pocket carrier so the only complaint I had was the size. It was a bit bulky in the front pocket. This time around I got the pure and am loving it so far as well. Definitely feels better in the pocket. Love the 5mp cam. Not sure what the tilt 2 is equipped with. Have deleted many unwanted programs to free up space and helps immensely with lag as others have complained about. Was majorly disappointed that it doesnt support all flash as I was under the impression from the pre-release descriptions. So far thats my only complaint.
I used to face question as same as yours when i decided to buy a new phone to instead of my old hurricane. Between TD2 and TP, finally i choose the first one.
I just made this thread to see how us G1/Dream owners feel about our outdated, falling apart phones.
Phones we should consider:
Nexus One
HTC Sidekick Twist
Samsung Galaxy S
HTC Evo 4g
Add more phones to the list and tell me how you feel about your G1 and why there is no worthy successor. (Full five row Qwerty and more)
Motorola Droid/Milestone. Does have qwerty.
But I think I'll wait until christmass with change
HTC needs to make the true next successor the G1
make it the first 4g phone on t-mobile call it the g2 release at the end of the year with gingerbread stock and bam SUCCESS
theres not a single phone out now, or rumored to be coming out that I would give up my G1 for.
maxidus said:
Motorola Droid/Milestone. Does have qwerty.
But I think I'll wait until christmass with change
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Droid keyboard is ****ty, useless and doesn't have 5th numeric row.
I wonder if LG Ally will be available in Europe...
It hurt as the G1 has some good and bad points as
Only 5 row keyboard Android in U.S.
Started Android from rc28 (look at what Android has accomplished!!)
Limited Space
Outdated Processor
Is getting old and many are falling apart
Still goes for $150 - $450!!!!!!!
G1 did well to show Android but now we need a true successor.. Have you all seen the Inbrics M1? 5 row keyboard, but I wish it was stock Android 2.1
Mytouch 3G Slide FTW xD
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make it the first 4g phone on t-mobile call it the g2 release at the end of the year with gingerbread stock and bam SUCCESS
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There's already a g2.. it's tmobile's name for the hero.
jamesd86 said:
theres not a single phone out now, or rumored to be coming out that I would give up my G1 for.
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Not even the Vision...?
goldenarmZ said:
There's already a g2.. it's tmobile's name for the hero.
Not even the Vision...?
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I didn't look more than one google page deep but the last news I found was just a build id that said qwerty keyboard and the name of the phone, not enough for me to say I want. Seriously mu next phone purchase will be in 2011...by then we should have a dualcore mobile that kicks ass...now if only batteries followed moores law.
The Samsung Galaxy S Pro looks decent, it has a 5 row qwerty keyboard but still nothing on the specs (probably identical/similar to the Galaxy S).
HTC needs to re-release the G1/Dream with the Snapdragon processor, more ram/rom, better screen (higher resolution, better touchscreen, AMOLED display), better camera (at least 5MP with flash) and a normal headphone jack. Keep the same case/keyboard/screen size... I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Had my G1 for a couple of years now and it's a great android starter phone.
But after a while you come to realize it's not that great after all.
Just like that guy in Utah, that died by firing squad last night, I've decided to place my phone against a wall (blindfolded of course), and let off a .50 cal round from my M107, straight into the menu button. I offered it one last flash, but true to form and solid as a brick (get it? brick? hahahaha) it refused.
So the plan that i've being plotting for a while now is coming into fruition. I've discovered something that has literally thousands more apps, great ui/responsiveness and is cosmetically better looking.
Six days from the date of this post I will have my new phone.
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Had my G1 for a couple of years now and it's a great android starter phone.
But after a while you come to realize it's not that great after all.
Just like that guy in Utah, that died by firing squad last night, I've decided to place my phone against a wall (blindfolded of course), and let off a .50 cal round from my M107, straight into the menu button. I offered it one last flash, but true to form and solid as a brick (get it? brick? hahahaha) it refused.
So the plan that i've being plotting for a while now is coming into fruition. I've discovered something that has literally thousands more apps, great ui/responsiveness and is cosmetically better looking.
Six days from the date of this post I will have my new phone.
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You're a MORON, and I would kindly ask you to STOP POSTING.
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You're a MORON, and I would kindly ask you to STOP POSTING.
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i do concur lbcoder...
wsdisciple, does someone pay you for spamming this link to apple site? Or are you 10 years old?
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As I stated before, I'm not going to replace G1 for now. Simply because there is no other decent phone with 5 row qwerty keyboard and I don't feel like pushing or holding shift to select numbers.
d3v14n7 said:
The Samsung Galaxy S Pro looks decent, it has a 5 row qwerty keyboard but still nothing on the specs (probably identical/similar to the Galaxy S).
HTC needs to re-release the G1/Dream with the Snapdragon processor, more ram/rom, better screen (higher resolution, better touchscreen, AMOLED display), better camera (at least 5MP with flash) and a normal headphone jack. Keep the same case/keyboard/screen size... I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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I love the chin and real buttons! My girlfriend has a Droid, and everytime I go to hit any of those soft buttons, I'm momentarily aggravated. Especially for long presses, which I use VERY often. Same shell, maybe add an exterior hardware search button, replace the trackball with an optical pad, front facing camera, and maybe a seperate led for charging. That, and everything else that's been said, would be the best phone ever. And it'd be faster than my computer..
wc is still going on with his apple fan-boy craziness?
The only real successor to a G1 would be to completely remake it with nothing but hardware upgrades. And a tad bit stronger. I read many many posts about the keyboard messing up and the G1 just plain out falling apart as OP said. I think it was rushed, and Google should have based the Nexus One off of it. Who knows, maybe one day something will roll out.
I say all this and I'm stuck with a myTouch. :| I've actually considered selling/trading it for a G1. My myTouch is just in horrible condition from so many drunken nights, lol.
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Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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I disagree, I love the chin and the fact the buttons are separate from the screen, it allows you to easily use those buttons/trackball with the keyboard open.
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I disagree, I love the chin and the fact the buttons are separate from the screen, it allows you to easily use those buttons/trackball with the keyboard open.
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The main problem I find with the "chin" isn't so much that it sticks out front, but that when the phone is laying flat on a desk, the "chin" section is lifted up. When you try to push a button, the thing pops up like a rake hitting a coyote in the head when he's trying to catch a roadrunner.
After seeing so many cracked screens I want my new phone to have a folding body with an inward facing screen when closed.
Also:
OLED screen
2 cameras
USB host
Infrared (handy sometimes)
iPhone destroyer beam
to anyone whose received their preorders, how is the keyboard? how does it feel and will it work well for large handed individuals?
You might want to post this in the G2 forum cos none of us are getting the Desire Z for quite some time it looks like.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=751
I've touched it, and I like it very much. The surface is a bit rough so your fingers won't slide around. The buttons are easy to press, yet gives good feedback. Spacing is good, but the buttons could be raised a bit.
I like the keyboard, it remind me of the older HTC phones with the slide keyboard just with more spacing. One thing i do noticed is the numbering on the top has a brighter color then the letters, and it throws me off a little when i type the letter "O" but keep pushing the number "0". after a while you'll get used to it though.
Does it feel basically the same as the Touch Pro 2 keyboard ? Because it looks pretty much the same, albeit with one less row.
to me, pretty close with the spacing and feel compare to the tp2. yes, there are one less row of keys though so you'll have to get used to that too if you were used to that keyboard
Ah that one missing row.
Seriously WTF HTC?
If you type any amount of numbers it gets old fast.
Seems the 7 pro is the only decent new phone.
Doesn't the keyboard have a key that allows you to set the keyboard input to numbers? Like how if you hit shift twice on the HTC Dream, it'll let you type in all caps without reverting to lowercase.
Bah, my question/explanation is awkwardly phrased. Brainz are dead
I must say, the keyboard looks really good and similar to the TP2, however, the HTC 7 Pro keyboard looks like the best one ive ever seen. Too bad the rest of the phone looks iffy and that it runs Windows Phone 7..
Call me crazy, but I went in to AT&T today and swapped them out. I was really interested in having a physical keyboard, and was much more impressed with the build quality of the LG.
If you have any questions about the device, feel free to ask and I'll answer what I can.
I know what you mean, I came from a Galaxy S Vibrant to the Quantum and the LG blows the Vibrant out of the water in terms of build quality, the Vibrant felt like a cheap toy in comparison.
Yea I'm really loving the keyboard. Probably the best one I've used on a mobile phone yet. Overall solid build with just the right amount of heft.
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Call me crazy, but I went in to AT&T today and swapped them out. I was really interested in having a physical keyboard, and was much more impressed with the build quality of the LG.
If you have any questions about the device, feel free to ask and I'll answer what I can.
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I didn't play with it as long as i wanted. But how is the keyboard, as far as a fast typer?. Example if you slide your finger across the keyboard. The asdfghjkl; how well does it pick up. Do it leave some letters out? Hope you can make out what im Trying to ask lol. I hope it has a better keyboard than lets say some issues with the epic 4g keyboard.
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I didn't play with it as long as i wanted. But how is the keyboard, as far as a fast typer?. Example if you slide your finger across the keyboard. The asdfghjkl; how well does it pick up. Do it leave some letters out? Hope you can make out what im Trying to ask lol. I hope it has a better keyboard than lets say some issues with the epic 4g keyboard.
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The only thing I can compare it to are portrait keyboards like a Treo - but it's good for a wider keyboard.
Here's a test by line for you:
Qwertyuiop
Asdfghjkl
Zxcvbnm
1234567890
@#$%&()-\
!;:'"?/
No issues it seems! =D
it picks up letters without a problem, but i find the keys a little too spaced and the FN/caps buttons don't illuminate, shows up on screen...Still very satisfied with the Quantum, it's very fast in comparisson to my 8925, but i like the tilt keyboard better.
Thanks well the keyboard seems nice. I still got 5 more months before i decide on getting one.
Doug,
Given that you first used the Focus, how exactly does the Quantum's 3.5" TFT display stand up to the Focus's 4" Super AMOLED?
The Quantum stands out to me for some reason and one of the only real concerns I have is how much I'm giving up on the screen front if I go with the Quantum. Did you feel like you downgraded on the display when you booted up the Quantum?
Appreciate it!
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Doug,
Given that you first used the Focus, how exactly does the Quantum's 3.5" TFT display stand up to the Focus's 4" Super AMOLED?
The Quantum stands out to me for some reason and one of the only real concerns I have is how much I'm giving up on the screen front if I go with the Quantum. Did you feel like you downgraded on the display when you booted up the Quantum?
Appreciate it!
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Short answer, I do not feel like I downgraded.
Long answer - while the SAMOLED's look great, they have their shortcomings. They're 16-bit only, so there is banding (noticeable, given the size.) Their battery life isn't spectacular, but that could potentially be due to the size of the battery. Since the resolution isn't different, things tend to look sharper on the 3.5" - also, brightness is all personal preference. I thought the SAMOLED was way too bright for me.
Thanks for your time, Doug!
Does the battery life on the LG compare to the Focus? The Focus seems to have great battery life so I don't to give that up if I switch. I am mainly concerned with the sound quality of the Focus. Also, I am worried they won't be able to find a good SD Card for the phone. I think the Focus is the only phone that can combine two different types of memory (NAND and SD-card). I am not sure the OS can handle the speed differential without a software patch to slow down the reads/writes of the NAND so there is no difference between it and the SD-Card.
I saw in the MobileTechReview.com review that the screen sharpness is not that good. What are your thoughts?
Also, how is the sound quality of the phone? Is the speaker loud? Does the earpiece have enough volume?
Thanks in advance for your time and answers. There are not too many good reviews of the phone.
JS
Tested all 3 AT&T devices
After reading many of the reviews on the at&t WP7 offerings I thought what I wanted was the Samsung Focus.
Last week end I spent a couple of hours playing with the phones in the AT&T store. I currently have an htc Fuze and I wanted to stay with htc, but after playing with the Surround I was disappointed with the speakers. The heft was not worth it for the sound.
There are many in my family who are of the iPhone faithful and I have played with their devices many times and am able to type with their on screen keyboards without much trauma. The reviews said the Focus keyboard was as good as the iPhone. The Focus was fun to play with; I liked the 4 inch screen, but my fat fingers could not work the on screen keyboard. I spent quite a while trying to type in both portrait and landscape and I had difficulty getting even one word right. Unfortunately, Focus is out.
At first the LG was of no interest because of the small 3.5 inch screen; I didn't even realize it had a slide out keyboard. I wanted an AT&T WP7 device and the first two, after playing with them for a while, simply were not going to work. When I picked up the LG Quantum the build quality was obvious from the first touch. It felt perfect! To my surprise, I pushed on the case and out popped this very smooth hard keyboard. I was hoping that I could graduate from a hard keyboard after using my kid's iPhones, but after sliding out the LG keyboard I easily typed out a paragraph with no errors! It even has arrow keys which I was unable to find on the soft keyboard which made the much needed editing even more frustrating. I loved the feel of the LG!
After reading many online reviews and a couple of hours of utube videos, I ordered the LG Quantum for $80 from CellularDeals.com. I am now eagerly awaiting its delivery...
is there an app on the quantum that'll let you use the camera flash as a flashlight?
I saw a comment somewhere that indicated there was, but didn't specify if it was homebrew or not.
Quantum Screen Response
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I now have my Quantum; the screen is the same size as an iPhone and not many iOS users complain about its size.
It seems that sometimes the screen is unresponsive, tap, tap, and nothing happens. I didn't notice it in the att store, but I do now. It may be my inexperience with a full capacitive touch screen, but, for example, if I touch the little arrow on the Home screen to access the app list, nothing happens. I have to swipe the screen to the left instead. The other arrow works intermittently also.
If anyone else has experience a similar unresponsive touch screen, please comment. I could be my unit needs to be replaced.
hey all! i thought id throw in my .02, as i won a quantum, and it arrived the other day! FWIW; i have worked for at&t for well over a decade, and couldn't begin to list the devices that i've had in my posession. however i can say that in 3 years i've rotated through an iphone3g, htc tilt 2, htc aria (which i still am using), samsung captivate, and now the lg. let me state for the record that i'm not a fan of lg phones. in fact i was rather disapointed to find that the quantum was the device i "won", as it was not my first (or second) choice if i were to purchase a wm7 device new. that opinion changed the moment i held, and fired, this beauty up. its nothing short of solid, well built, and highly functional.
this device is as responsive as any other capatacitive screen device ive owned yet...and maybe more so. typing on this device screen is accurate, and percise, even without the haptic feedback some devices offer. i do miss this option, but its not a deal breaker. the color is richer than i expected, considering its not the samoled screens some other devices offer. its size seemed to be a draw back at first glance, compaired to the smasung and htc, but has quickly become a non issue. the coating on the screen is oil phobic, like the iphone3gs, and cleans up quickly. summary: very impressed!
the keyboard...oh the keyboard...
ive never really liked having a physical keyboard. maybe ive become spoiled over the years; maybe since my first "smart phone" (htc sx66), nobody seemed to make one that felt solid. well, ive changed my tune. from the first solid "snap" of the board for service to my fingers, ive been a convert. this is not the crap lg keyboard they have loaded in their other devices. this one is clearly their way of stepping up to the plate, and showing that lg can, in fact, compete in the highly competitive smartphone device market. IMO, the addition of the function and caps buttons away from the main board body seem to make sense, and were a welcome addition. it seems mine dosent have the issue ive read here of a uneven back light. i was able to text in the darkness of my favoriate tavern last night without fuss. all the buttons lit evenly and just bright enough for my aging eyes to see without being over saturated, or needing to squint. granted, it darkenes a bit quick for my liking, im sure future wm7 updates will open more posibilities to adjust this. summary: quite impressed.
call clairity, speaker volume, bluetooth connectivity and battery life are all (mostly)exceeding my expacations. i say "mostly" because the battery seems to not quite make it a full day yet on a full charge. but to be fair, none of the devices i listed above ever really made it on a full charge from bell to bell. ive noticed its network strength is as strong as my aria is, and better than my iphone was (shocker). mulitiple bleutooth devices were added, and used without so much as a wimper. i would like a bit more sound volume (because im a touch deaf in one ear), or at least some sort of equalizer function...but thats more wm7 than lg. summary: really damn impressed!
the size, weight and build quality have (obviously) made me change my mind about lgs ability to produce a viable device that will likely see much use from me before it gets replaced...or should i say "upgraded"? good, solid and dense; it dosent feel like a toy that will crumple under my usage, or break if i get a bit carried away. it feels like a productivity tool...which is exactly how i intend to use it!
I hope this helps provide some perspective...and slightly more than .02!
ciao!
I went from a Tilt2 to a HTC Surround... HATED not having the slide-out keyboard, got an LG Quantum... LOVE IT!!!
Good Battery Life
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...summary: quite impressed.
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DamnageD said:
...call clarity, speaker volume, Bluetooth connectivity and battery life are all (mostly) exceeding my expectations. I say "mostly" because the battery seems to not quite make it a full day yet on a full charge...
ciao!
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My Quantum was delivered on 7 December and last night, 20 December, was only the fourth charge including the first one out of the box. Last night I talked with my brother in Oregon for about three hours and the little battery icon was pretty small.
My wife is using the Quantum most of the time and her usage is lower than mine, but she makes and receives calls all day, does a few text messages and when we are driving around, every time she sees blue lights or hears a siren she goes onto her favorite websites, the sheriff’s scanner and fire rescue site. She has her favorite websites pinned to the home screen at the bottom and can logon in seconds anytime with a slid and a tap.
Because of a posting mishap, it is now after 11pm 22 December and the battery icon still says the Quantum has about 1/3 charge after two days of use.
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I went from a Tilt2 to a HTC Surround... HATED not having the slide-out keyboard, got an LG Quantum... LOVE IT!!!
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so, did you notice phone get too hot when charged ?
I did not have the HTC surround long enough to charge it more than 2x. My LG Quantum does not get hot during charging.
I had to charge my Tilt 2 every day since I use outlook with exchange and the connection is always open. I have the same setup with the Quantum and only charge it every 2-3 days.
So had to get a new Samsung epic from sprint since my phone messed up. I'm debating if I should go back to the sprint store because the new epic keyboard feels weird sometimes. I'm approaching almost a month so I think I've broke it in. But does anyone remember having there Samsung epic new and the keyboard feeling weird in the beginning and then fixing it self later on. When I say weird-- it's that sometimes the keyboard feels just like I remember my old one worked and then other times it feels like there's a plastic bag behind the keys. Am I paranoid or should I head to Sprint.
I thought it was weird at first but that was from using a TP2 for so long. I still miss that keyboard. If HTC would have slapped that keyboard on an EVO, now that would have been an awesome phone.
The TP2 was the gold standard for keyboards. I've been looking for a new gen phone to match it ever since.
Arrive's is good. I even like the Evo Shift's kb better than our's, but other than that, our phone takes the cake
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So had to get a new Samsung epic from sprint since my phone messed up. I'm debating if I should go back to the sprint store because the new epic keyboard feels weird sometimes. I'm approaching almost a month so I think I've broke it in. But does anyone remember having there Samsung epic new and the keyboard feeling weird in the beginning and then fixing it self later on. When I say weird-- it's that sometimes the keyboard feels just like I remember my old one worked and then other times it feels like there's a plastic bag behind the keys. Am I paranoid or should I head to Sprint.
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I know what you mean about the plastic bag, but that's only ever been temporary for me. Honestly though, you'd be better off just sticking with it as they won't replace the phone just for that. They'd put a harvested front half of the phone on, which includes the screen, so you'd be getting a used and non refurbished screen.
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I got my replacement from asurion about a month back and I do feel the bubbly feeling behind it. Plus a lot of skipped keys even with the keyboard patch. It was brand new too, not a refurb. Im trying to break the buttons in myself by pressing them.. it seems to be getting better on most keys.
cd's or tapes?