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Apple iOS4 announced today has hard release dates/N1-Froyo release date still eludes

Apple did a good job selling it's next product, as usual. it announced a product and with it a firm release date in the very near future.
In contrast, Google screwed up the FroYo release as much as they possibly can. Google I/O announced FroYo on May 20th, with no firm date for release. That was just a few days short of three weeks ago.
Okay, so I am not worried about it to the point that I am ready to go all iPhone on your butts, I am just pointing out that Google has a lot to learn about rolling out a product.

They absolutely do.
Google is acting like a bunch of freaking amateurs.
I'm not the least bit interested in the iPhone, but I am jealous that they guys running Apple seem more professional and capable than do the folks running Google/Android.
It's embarrassing.

attn1 said:
Apple did a good job selling it's next product, as usual. it announced a product and with it a firm release date in the very near future.
In contrast, Google screwed up the FroYo release as much as they possibly can. Google I/O announced FroYo on May 20th, with no firm date for release. That was just a few days short of three weeks ago.
Okay, so I am not worried about it to the point that I am ready to go all iPhone on your butts, I am just pointing out that Google has a lot to learn about rolling out a product.
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Honestly, I feel the same way. Google I/O was great, but it was all just fluff. We didn't get anything solid. Nothing. Google can take some lessons here about giving people something they can hold on too. "Few Weeks" is not enough. I think one of the main reasons that people aren't out in front of Google with pitch forks and torches is that they "leaked" a 2.2 early release so we have a taste of it and something to play with.
All in all, I agree with you 100%, Google has a lot to learn.

On the flip side -
Apple introduced iAds today like they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Well, hold the phone (lousy pun intended - deal), those little banners consume data. No biggie data is unlimit- whoa wait. Not it's not. Not anymore on Apple's carrier of choice in the USA.
I don't care how little data those little banners use - to promote a system that not only allows their use but encourages it at the expense of a user locked into a tiered data plan is reprehensible. Does anyone else see an ethical problem with this?
Then there is the practical issue - a user is at the hairy edge of his allotment without buying more data - well except for those pesky little banners that put him over the top. Nice job, Steve Jobs, you butthole.
Likewise, I think any Android PAID app should have all ad banners removed. I know this is a common practice, but it should be a rule. No app with banners should be available at all without a paid counterpart without banners, IMO.

Well sure we don't have a solid release date yet... but we also get more updates then 1 per year. Think on the bright side. At least Froyo 2.2 is already out, if not officially. I don't understand your complaining. Android can already do what the iPhone is just not catching up to.
If our Androids ran on Apple time... we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. Again, be happy you don't have to wait that long. Be lucky we get what we get. Plus 2.1 runs great anyway.

player911 said:
we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. .
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at the rate Google is going.....

player911 said:
Well sure we don't have a solid release date yet... but we also get more updates then 1 per year. Think on the bright side. At least Froyo 2.2 is already out, if not officially. I don't understand your complaining. Android can already do what the iPhone is just not catching up to.
If our Androids ran on Apple time... we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. Again, be happy you don't have to wait that long. Be lucky we get what we get. Plus 2.1 runs great anyway.
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No, not complaining, stating some facts.
Apple = Solid release dates announced
Google = Vague mentions to releases that are coming "soon".

What should Google do? Follow the Apply model? Announce it 4 months ago, which is what Apple did, then wait until you release a new phone (which actually have hard dates) to launch the new OS... so if Google did this, we would be waiting until the Nexus2 to get FroYo. Sounds great guys! Not...
Take a nap or something.

pjcforpres said:
What should Google do? Follow the Apply model? Announce it 4 months ago, which is what Apple did, then wait until you release a new phone (which actually have hard dates) to launch the new OS... so if Google did this, we would be waiting until the Nexus2 to get FroYo. Sounds great guys! Not...
Take a nap or something.
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They should have STFU until they had a hard release date.
Period.
And they sure as hell shouldn't have released it to the freaking press who didn't pay a dime for their Nexus.

Old MuckenMire said:
They should have STFU until they had a hard release date.
Period.
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Stop whining please.
It makes the rest of us Nexus One owners look bad.

Talderon said:
No, not complaining, stating some facts.
Apple = Solid release dates announced
Google = Vague mentions to releases that are coming "soon".
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Simple facts...
Apple= Announcing new phone!
Google= Software update
Two different things. Google gave a firm date for the Nexus One.
And when has Apple ever given a firm date for a software update/bug fix? Oh, wait, they haven't... they have only ever given firm dates for new phone releases, and then said the exact same stuff Google has, that the new OS will be available shortly for other models.

ap3604 said:
Stop whining please.
It makes the rest of us Nexus One owners look bad.
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Dude you're responsible for yourself. I'm not going to shut up because you are insecure.

player911 said:
Well sure we don't have a solid release date yet... but we also get more updates then 1 per year. Think on the bright side. At least Froyo 2.2 is already out, if not officially. I don't understand your complaining. Android can already do what the iPhone is just not catching up to.
If our Androids ran on Apple time... we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. Again, be happy you don't have to wait that long. Be lucky we get what we get. Plus 2.1 runs great anyway.
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I am just saying that Apple has their act together when it comes to product launches. Google does not. People had a much better understanding of what's coming and when with Apple's Keynote than they did at Google's. It left a lot less speculation and release anxiousness on the table. That makes for happier customers.
No doubt I'd rather be using the version of FroYo we are already looking at than iOS4. That wasn't my point.

Since Apple is now in the ad business (some vague 60% number thrown out there), why not get into the hardware business google?
HTC is a good manufacturer but lacks the innovation needed. Sony designs well but moves at a snails pace and makes horrible decisions.

....10char

Old MuckenMire said:
Dude you're responsible for yourself.
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Very true. And on the flip side of that - Your responsible for yourself as well. So act like an adult instead of getting everyone tense on the forum with childish behavior.

I wouldn't be upset really. Tom Petty did say it best when he said "waiting is the hardest part". However if Froyo isn't finished, then we need to sit back and chill for a little while longer. I would be really mad if we get it (example) July 4th weekend and absolutely nothing has been added or changed.
Looks like we are all in wait and see mode..

Google needs to get it's act together on android. Microsoft is going to come after them, not apple not RIM. Microsoft and Google are aiming for OEMs and OEMs have already complained about google's way of releasing android updates.
I was shocked when Andy Rubin said that they don't have road-maps for version release. Google needs to look at Mozilla for their planning.

ap3604 said:
Very true. And on the flip side of that - Your responsible for yourself as well. So act like an adult instead of getting everyone tense on the forum with childish behavior.
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Rather than try and start a flame war, just post your opinion like I did and move one. If you cannot handle an opposing opinion, the internet may not be for you. If you're getting tense reading my posts, take a valium, but I will post any way I want(within forum rules of course).

attn1 said:
piss off, pantload.
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It's ok attn1... I know if I was always screaming "the sky is falling the sky is falling" about the release of Froyo I'd be a little tense too

Very good reason for demanding 2.2 on X10

A computer security researcher says he plans to release code Thursday that could be used to attack some versions of Google's Android phones over the Internet.
The attack targets the browser in older, Android 2.1-and-earlier versions of the phones. It is being disclosed Thursday at the HouSecCon conference in Houston by M.J. Keith, a security researcher with Alert Logic. Keith says he has written code that allows him to run a simple command line shell in Android when the victim visits a website that contains his attack code.
The bug used in Keith's attack lies in the WebKit browser engine used by Android.
Google said it knows about the vulnerability. "We're aware of an issue in WebKit that could potentially impact only old versions of the Android browser," Google spokesman Jay Nancarrow confirmed in an e-mail. "The issue does not affect Android 2.2 or later versions."
canot link the article (my first thread)
check out,
computerworld dot com /s/article/9195058/Researcher_to_release_Web_based_Android_attack

SE wont fall for this .... i dont think 2.2 is anywhere near 1st quater 2011

anyway on the good side Maxrfon (dev) has been able to access nand (FINALLY)
so if things go right , we might be able to run some custom ROM`s , who knows even CM6

haha 2.2. dream on. You've got to buy new SE pgone for that.

F*** sony, even if they make 2.2 it would be buggy. All the independent developers make way better stuff than Sony. Just look at the popularity of CyanogenMod and many more mods.

antivirus?

I dont wanna use a antivirus on my phone.. you didn't have to use that before and i will defently not use it now. ! and i really dont care about the x10i anymore im gonna replace that sh!t when my contract is over. thank god it's only about a month and half more ..

zwepter said:
I dont wanna use a antivirus on my phone.. you didn't have to use that before and i will defently not use it now. ! and i really dont care about the x10i anymore im gonna replace that sh!t when my contract is over. thank god it's only about a month and half more ..
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****? Why? It is still the best smartphone on the market.

are u kidding man? where do u live? which planet?
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earth ? :]

lornova said:
****? Why? It is still the best smartphone on the market.
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I think that should read it could've been the best smart-phone on the market .
It's sad when I see people get all excited about old OS 2.1, heck Blackberry has more frequent updates then the X10. No matter I will be leaving the X10 behind very soon & it as well as SE will be a distant bad memory.

phoneguy 4567 said:
I think that should read it could've been the best smart-phone on the market .
It's sad when I see people get all excited about old OS 2.1, heck Blackberry has more frequent updates then the X10. No matter I will be leaving the X10 behind very soon & it as well as SE will be a distant bad memory.
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of course Blackberry has more frequent updates in RIM than SE in X10, it's their only OS. Well nobody forced you on getting X10
if updates matter switch to Blackberry
I'm not flaming or anything here, it's that there is no point on saying "I'm done with SE F*** them and s*** I hate them" this kind of attitude won't help anyone
Cheers

MJ_QaT said:
of course Blackberry has more frequent updates in RIM than SE in X10, it's their only OS. Well nobody forced you on getting X10
if updates matter switch to Blackberry
I'm not flaming or anything here, it's that there is no point on saying "I'm done with SE F*** them and s*** I hate them" this kind of attitude won't help anyone
Cheers
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UKSHeep said:
Bla bla bla
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Lol very classy
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MJ_QaT said:
of course Blackberry has more frequent updates in RIM than SE in X10, it's their only OS. Well nobody forced you on getting X10
if updates matter switch to Blackberry
I'm not flaming or anything here, it's that there is no point on saying "I'm done with SE F*** them and s*** I hate them" this kind of attitude won't help anyone
Cheers
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I'm confused what other OS's does SE have? Are the providing more frequent updates to WinMo 6.5 or Symbian? Maybe they were working on the PSP phone or Windows Phone 7, & said screw X10 updates we already got their money LOL.

lornova said:
****? Why? It is still the best smartphone on the market.
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Not my market... my market has a 3D multitouch screeen, Android 2.2 powered, 9 megapixel 3D camera, with a wireless wallet and built in over-the-air TV antenna smartphone.

phoneguy 4567 said:
I'm confused what other OS's does SE have? Are the providing more frequent updates to WinMo 6.5 or Symbian? Maybe they were working on the PSP phone or Windows Phone 7, & said screw X10 updates we already got their money LOL.
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Maybe, but they currently working on another update for 2,1 which will provide UXP upgrades, plus working on win phone 7 update and a couple symbian devicrs. Not mentioning the PSP phone. So as you can see they are busy right now that's why have doubts about 2.2 update
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The points you make don't put SE in a better light especially to X10 owners IMO. In fact I would say it reinforces for many why they won't buy another SE phone. Samsung and other brands deal with multiple platforms and are able to get updates to customers in a relatively timely manner.

I personally use an X10 mini pro rooted and running 2.1 and I have to say it is awsome!! it seems even better than some HTC phone on the same range...
I agree on the fact that SE is late compared to other vendors but, hey, android is still lacking some old/basic features like the video dialer on 3G and it seems not even ready for it on Gingerbread.
I think there is no big difference between Xperia on 2.1 or 2.2. It won't make the phone becoming a thunder!!!
still some work to be done in different ways and I hope that developers will do their best to come with new fancy stuff

phoneguy 4567 said:
The points you make don't put SE in a better light especially to X10 owners IMO. In fact I would say it reinforces for many why they won't buy another SE phone. Samsung and other brands deal with multiple platforms and are able to get updates to customers in a relatively timely manner.
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True, but Samsung started producing Android earlier than Sony Ericsson so they do have the advantage of experience. Besides after the X10i we can be sure that whatever comes next will be with the latest Android OS.
It'll be foolish if they made the same mistake

Blackberry 4g Tablet Dual Core!

Sorry if it is off topic but a 4g blackberry tablet with a dual core processor what do you guys think
http://now.sprint.com/playbook/
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BlackBerry? That's unexpected.

aph said:
BlackBerry? That's unexpected.
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It's been known for a while now. Well, except Sprint officially carrying it. But um, who'd want a RIM product? iOS, Android, and WP7 are going to have the most support by both developers and community.

Award Tour said:
It's been known for a while now. Well, except Sprint officially carrying it. But um, who'd want a RIM product? iOS, Android, and WP7 are going to have the most support by both developers and community.
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Yeah, I did some research and it was supposed to be WiFi only and/or allow tethering to an existing BB phone to power the tablet.
Smart of them to change their minds, they would not be able to compete without data. 4G can't hurt.

idk it is a blackberry and running their os. could be drama in the long end, but if the hardware is in there for 4g, that makes me believe that you could set it up as a phone with a dialer... could be a combo of old school meets new school.

a Blackberry tablet ...
... who was the fool at Sprint who green-lighted backing this hot mess? RIMs target audience and the typical tablets target audience aren't even close to the same focus groups ... a square peg/round hole failure. Has RIM ever competed in the home user space? Apple at least has worked in that arena, Google clouds absolutely everything, RIM does ... well ... email.
I predict failure here.

looks nice probably be nice for corporate email? I just do not want a tablet tied to contract and do not want some just no name tablet.

From what I hear there's no built in support for calendar or email - those features won't work unless tethered to a blackberry. The os is actually supposed to be pretty impressive though.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah

The tablet looks well built..i hate blackberry os, but i would consider rocking this. I signed up for alerts.

Justin.G11 said:
a Blackberry tablet ...
... who was the fool at Sprint who green-lighted backing this hot mess? RIMs target audience and the typical tablets target audience aren't even close to the same focus groups ... a square peg/round hole failure. Has RIM ever competed in the home user space? Apple at least has worked in that arena, Google clouds absolutely everything, RIM does ... well ... email.
I predict failure here.
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To answer that question I'd have to say yes! I love that there is this huge envisioning by the tech world that BB is only used by businesses.
BB may not do nearly as much marketing and focus on non-business users, but I can say that 35-45% of my friends have a BB as their PERSONAL phone. Not because all of the "business" advantage, but because BB makes attractive, ergonomic, simple to use phones and people do buy them. Not to mention brand recognition, how many people do you know that wouldn't know what "blackberry" is?
Now ask that same person about "android" or "WP7"...
The re-written BB OS is actually pretty sleek looking IMO, so I wouldn't say it's a completely horrible idea for Sprint to take this on. Plus many of the businesses would certainly fall into the potential for stocking these up given their employees are all robots equipped with BBs...

Meh...
Just because it's not Google/Apple/Microsoft doesn't mean it won't be a success or that it's a "hot mess".
Les we forget that RIM was top of the mobile world for a long time.

mattykinsx said:
Meh...
Just because it's not Google/Apple/Microsoft doesn't mean it won't be a success or that it's a "hot mess".
Les we forget that RIM was top of the mobile world for a long time.
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RIM is a sinking ship. Of all the OS', BBOS is destined to have the least support from developers. Their SDK is also based on AIR/Flash, a dying platform if I ever seen one.

Award Tour said:
RIM is a sinking ship. Of all the OS', BBOS is destined to have the least support from developers. Their SDK is also based on AIR/Flash, a dying platform if I ever seen one.
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I think with a nice breath of fresh air they can be a competitor again.
Having the user base, even though it is dwindling, definitely puts them in a good position still.
I think it's really silly to count anyone out at this point in any mobile business, ESPECIALLY tablets.
Per example, Android was practically NOTHING last year...

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Per example, Android was practically NOTHING last year...
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The difference is that Android was a startup that was growing from nothing. RIM is a dinosaur that is dying and making mistakes by frantically looking for solutions.

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The difference is that Android was a startup that was growing from nothing. RIM is a dinosaur that is dying and making mistakes by frantically looking for solutions.
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I can come up with 100 logical reasons why Android shouldn't be where it's at right now.
I think this tablet could help revive BB.
And I certainly don't think it's silly for Sprint to carry it.

With the lack of Sprint news from CES I was very surprised by this move.. Of all the tablets with that mobile focus mentioned a few months ago the PlayBook was the one I was most excited about. Unfortunately I doubt it will be a star by the time it releases as I've already seen a number of tablets from CES that would mop the floor with the PlayBook.
It'll be 4-6 months before we make another mover forward with a new halo handset IMO.

I would buy one of the blackberry tablets before I bought a crummy apple tablet... Apple is a joke and there os is even more of joke... But android on the other hand is far superior to any other tablet out there. If the android tablets didnt exist I would definitley buy a blackberry tablet though.
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Award Tour said:
The difference is that Android was a startup that was growing from nothing. RIM is a dinosaur that is dying and making mistakes by frantically looking for solutions.
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Apple was a dying dinosaur before Steve Jobs came back and then they came up with new computer designs and took off with the ibook, ipod, etc.

Pocket-Lint.com - SE says "We've made mistakes, 2011 we'll be better"

“The first generation of handsets in our portfolio was about getting the capability out there”, Steve Walker (Acting) global head of marketing for Sony Ericsson told Pocket-lint, in a one-to-one interview at CES in Las Vegas.
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“Last year we didn’t anticipate the strength of feeling that consumers would have towards the Android release. And again that was a learning experience of the first year of mass market Android smartphones”.
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Here's the full article: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/37869/sony-ericsson-2010-mistakes-made#ixzz1AqoY2JHm
Don't forget to post your comments for SE on the Pocket-Lint site.

I actually do have faith in SE handling their software better with the Arc and such, it just doesn't benefit me at all since I'm married to my X10 at least for the next couple of years or so. I dunno, everything I've felt is necessary to say about their current lineup is said already, it's nice to see SE admitting themselves that they failed. Even though their attitude is more like "We f'ed up, buy our new phone so that we can make up for it", than "Sorry we f'ed up, please enjoy our improved support for the X10 lineup in the year 2011!"

I should not read this :/ wrrrr...
“If we hadn’t done what we did with the X10 and the X10 minis we wouldn’t have been able to do what we’ve done here today”
M****r f****r :/

Tl;dr version - Lol congratz x10 owners you are officially our Guinea pig idiots, THATS what you get for trusting us to follow up on promises. Oh well right? No hard feelings k? thnxbai

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... it's nice to see SE admitting themselves that they failed. Even though their attitude is more like "We f'ed up, buy our new phone so that we can make up for it", than "Sorry we f'ed up, please enjoy our improved support for the X10 lineup in the year 2011!"
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This sums it up pretty well.
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M****r f****r :/
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But, so does this.

bah. If they were sorry they would release the bootloader.

This only throws more wood in the fire.
Oh SE, you keep doing it wrong... And I still had a little hope...

kindred7 said:
bah. If they were sorry they would release the bootloader.
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Basically.

It's not news that they were wrong...
It would be nice to know they're going to make it right...
but they aint.

Hi, SE,how about giving us froyo + gingerbread or giving us all an Xperia Arc since X10 owners were all shafted?

Basically saying:
"Thanks to be beta-testers, dear users of X10-families. Now goodbye, but meanwhile please enjoy our half-arsed pathetic attempt in Android until it's dead, coz we don't care about old stuff no more now we got the Awesome Arc. Once again, thanks"

"we've made mistakes ".... saying that is the mistake... so that's mean buying x10 is a wrong thing and you should not buy x10 or x8 or mini because it's a mistake ... will i got SE something ... for me trusting SE was a mistake .

My usual,
SE, may Death be bestowed on you.
PUI...........

SE will not be popular with the geeks and the nerds who like to tinker with their phones. But for general masses, they will still sell because they design their phone nicely...

having looked at the new lg/htc/droid phones that are appearing in the very near future I reckon as usual sony is starting from behind, should be called xperia x10 v1.0
bet they wont unlock the bootloader either cos its probably the same code for all their new released phones.

coipu1234 said:
having looked at the new lg/htc/droid phones that are appearing in the very near future I reckon as usual sony is starting from behind, should be called xperia x10 v1.0
bet they wont unlock the bootloader either cos its probably the same code for all their new released phones.
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witch one "X10 , Mini , pro & X8" are outdated :s the arc is not on the Market
, we choose the bad brand and our dev try to give us some light with root and custom rom , i dont understand if Zdishu , Jerpelea & ... from XDA are able to develop 2.2 , 2.3 android rom , with good ressources they could do that perfectly pfff SE S**k

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SE will not be popular with the geeks and the nerds who like to tinker with their phones. But for general masses, they will still sell because they design their phone nicely...
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Got to agree there with u. And neither would I be suggesting this phone to any1 again. Sure it feels nice to see ppl admiring the x10 but what's the use if it ain't up to date. A smartphone that's not even a phone :'(
God damn SE atleast unlock the friggin' bootloader. x-(
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Screwing over your early adopters is a poor long term strategy.

D-Trixxx said:
Screwing over your early adopters is a poor long term strategy.
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Not when long-term is defined as a fiscal year.

roaringhere said:
SE will not be popular with the geeks and the nerds who like to tinker with their phones. But for general masses, they will still sell because they design their phone nicely...
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I can't agree with this... maybe earlier it was like that, ppl never know about updates, and didn't care much, but now with all this Android hype, more and more people are talking about Android, Froyo, games, MT and stuff, they all are aware of this. And looking how HTC updates their cheap phones like Wildfire and Tatto to froyo... they will ask how come they don't have Froyo on top model SE phone
I'm sure that SE will get what it deserves..

Samsung delays Nexus Prime

Just saw this article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...d-Google-cancel-Nexus-Prime-phone-launch.html
Wonder why they are delaying? Perhaps it's just not ready?! I was pretty anxious for announce

is this being reported anywhere else? the article cites no source.

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is this being reported anywhere else? the article cites no source.
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http://moconews.net/article/419-ice...-google-and-samsung-delay-nexus-prime-launch/
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/07/ice-cream-sandwich-and-nexus-prime-announcement-reportedly-delayed/
http://www.tekgadg.com/tekgadg/2011/9/19/nexus-prime-delayed-till-december-molly-wood-says.html

Many think it's out of respect for Steve Jobs. He might have his funeral around that time.

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Many think it's out of respect for Steve Jobs. He might have his funeral around that time.
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Makes sense. Just hope it's not something else. One report is speculating the announce being pushed back to December.

some of articles all link back to this one
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42445/samsung-nexus-prime-launch-pulled
but it states no source either except, "believe us or else". although im not saying its not true, no one has cited a source.

engadget also has the news including company statement
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/samsung-and-google-postpone-ice-cream-sandwich-and-galaxy-nexus/
Talk about disappointment!
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people are saying it's out of respect for Jobs..that makes sense.

Google's CEO worked on Apples board so it's out if respect for Steve Jobs & they didn't want to destroy the new iPhone 4s with better phone & OS with all its goodies
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theres now rumor that the new unveiling will be in london on the 27th of oct.

Androidcentral says why:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-officially
Update: Google's explained why the delay. Works for us.
"We believe this is not the right time to announce a new product as the world expresses tribute to Steve Jobs's passing."
Honestly, it makes sense to me and I don't blame them. I'm just happy I got to see a video of it.

I think it's actually a poor business decision. The business of business is business and business is war. Take every opportunity you can get, and they just gave Apple a big one.

I don't see Apple pushing back the iPhone 4S release.

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I don't see Apple pushing back the iPhone 4S release.
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Steve wouldn't want that. Lol. But true about the war. You don't stop. For NOBODY! Lol. Just kiddin. Can't wait for it
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I don't see Apple pushing back the iPhone 4S release.
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1) Lackluster 4S launch.
2) Jobs (R.I.P)
3) Delay release?
It would be too much for Apple fans. Really though, we can only speculate.

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I don't see Apple pushing back the iPhone 4S release.
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This is a valid point. One would think that Apple had some idea that Jobs was on his way out. It did strike me as a bit strange that they announced this lackluster new device and announced the death of their CEO the very next day. I dunno.

So you are saying steve waited until they release his device to die? Or you are saying they waited one day to give the announcement that he die?
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The Nexus was suppose to compete directly with the Iphone 5.
I hear that the Iphone 5 was suppose to have the newer LTE chip which runs cooler and uses less power. My opinion is the Nexus Prime was suppose to compete directly with the iphone 5. If the iphone has the newer chip which is currently being developed it would own the Nexus Prime.

TBH, if Steve Jobs was healthy, would he delay the release of a phone if someone else iconic passed away? Let's say Bill Gates passed away, would Jobs do the same favor? I think not, he would probably do it to steal the thunder.

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This is a valid point. One would think that Apple had some idea that Jobs was on his way out. It did strike me as a bit strange that they announced this lackluster new device and announced the death of their CEO the very next day. I dunno.
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I was just at an AT&T Store, they're going to sell that damn Iphone4S next week, with or without Jobs.

dead78 said:
This is a valid point. One would think that Apple had some idea that Jobs was on his way out. It did strike me as a bit strange that they announced this lackluster new device and announced the death of their CEO the very next day. I dunno.
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Nothing strange about that. Jobs wasn't in good health at all. The disappointment at the release of the iphone4s instead of the iphone5 was enough to nearly kill HEALTHY Apple nerds.