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The X1 always deletes the mails saved on the device if they arent stored on the server anymore after checking for new mails. Is there a way to keep mails that are no longer on the pop3 server?
If you are using POP3, the emails you downloaded to your device should stay there regardless of removal on the POP3 server. The only reason that would explain this behavior is that you are using IMAP and not POP3.
I'm using pop3 and the mails disappear.
nurps said:
The X1 always deletes the mails saved on the device if they arent stored on the server anymore after checking for new mails. Is there a way to keep mails that are no longer on the pop3 server?
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That's not how POP3 works. You are describing IMAP server behaviour.
nurps said:
The X1 always deletes the mails saved on the device if they arent stored on the server anymore after checking for new mails. Is there a way to keep mails that are no longer on the pop3 server?
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in options you have to select "don't delete mail from server" or "keep mail on server" I don't remember exactly but there in an option to do it, look around in advanced account settings
Well doenst really matter that its not supposed to work this way.
How do i fix it? Obvioulsy a bug, is it working with your phone?
guap said:
in options you have to select "don't delete mail from server" or "keep mail on server" I don't remember exactly but there in an option to do it, look around in advanced account settings
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Yes i have that option selected...the X1 is not deleting it from the server...its deleting it from the X1, after the mail is deleted from the server by my PC, on the next "send / reveicve" operation.
so check "don't delete message if deleted form server"... it's in advanced options too
Where would that option be? On the same page as the "dont delete from server option"? If yes i dont have that. (german version of windows mobile and Xperia) Maybe there is a direct registry setting if i cant get it through the options?
The problem you're having is most likely to do with retention. Eg "delete messages after 7 days". Use POP3 but also check your retention settings.
And where would i find this setting? I only find the option for downloaing Mails from today, 3 - 30 days old or all. But this hast nohting to do with deleting them once theyre gone on the pop3 server.
And thoose messeages dont vanish on their own...they get deleted after i check for new mails (its set up for manually doing that) and the experia notes that the mails is not on the pop3 server anymore.
So a "don't delete message if deleted form server" would be the right thing..just that i dont have that in my settings.
nurps said:
Yes i have that option selected...the X1 is not deleting it from the server...its deleting it from the X1, after the mail is deleted from the server by my PC, on the next "send / reveicve" operation.
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If the email is deleted/retrieved from the server by YOUR PC, the email is gone by the time you check for new email on your PHONE.
What you need to do is select the option to "KEEP MAIL ON SERVER" in your PC email program.
Either way, I don't think it's a good practice to POP your email from 2 different places (PC and phone in your case).
Of course its gone, but i dont download the mail AFTER its deleted by the PC...its allready on the X1 and it deletes it AFTERWARDS.
In fact my PC is set up to leave Mails in POP3 for 3 days..then they get deleted...and the X1 is set to dont delete any mails at all. But it does delete allready downloaded mails as soons as it finds out theyre not on the pop3 server anymore.
So back to the solution of this problem please?
The only way I found to keep messages on the phone is to delete them from inbox to the deleted items folder, they stay there till you delete them properly.
Im on btinternet and I dont like the idea of messages staying on the server so havnt enabled it.
What is the point of keeping messages on the server, can they be downloaded again?
I cant find an advanced explanation of how the phone interacts with the mail services so I just keep mail I need in the deleted folder in the phone, I even created a new folder in the phone called store to put emails in for keeps but they dissapeared from there as well !!
If you have important information in a mail, copy and paste the text to word or notepad just to be safe.
According to guap there should be a "don't delete message if deleted from server"-option but i cant find it. I cant believe that windows mobile mail software would be more stupid that a simple java email client i used the last to years before the experia.
sorry for delay
go in your inbox -> menu ->tools -> options -> message -> warn when delete message from list
this way you can say "no" and keep your message. Quite annoyng but it worked for me on my touch. Now I don't care about it
Anyway, if you are interested in a serious client I suggest to swap to something better then pocket outlook
I have this checked...but always clicking yes on every mail check to keep my mails from getting deleted would be to annyoing even if it would work.
So what serious alternatives are there? And are they fully integrated into the OS?
nurps, have you doubled checked the settings to ensure you aren't using IMAP. The wizard will try to use IMAP by default, which by the sounds of things is exactly whats going on.
Its pop3. 100% sure.
I have set up the same account with pop3 and imap, the phone still behaves the same, deleting messages that have been downloaded to and deleted from pc.
I think this is stupid behavior. There should be an option to keep some email on the phone and not on the pc.
Edit; Put it this way I have 2 pcs with outlook express on, I can check mail with each one and they download mail individually but they dont clear the other pc of mail do they ! (mmm.. ? maybe thats wrong eh ..).
I like to choose what to delete from a particular machine and what to keep on a machine.
hi there,
a friend of mine has got a very annoying issue with his hd(blackstone) he got it from orange uk and added his email account which pulled down his emails no probs, for some reason though now it shows 1 unread message on his touchflow (and on the front of s2u2).
I assumed it was the problem with when you go into the account and not read an email properly how it shows highlighted.
This wasn't the case, so ran FixUnreadCount.exe that ive seen from prior posts, this didnt fix it after a softreset.
so....
deleted the entire account still there,
readded a different account, still there,
deleted the account completely
soft reset ran FixUnreadCount.exe
soft reset, still annoyingly there!!
went to edit the registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\sms\Unread\Count and made sure its set to 0
softreset and still!!! showing 1 unread email
can any one suggest anything else as im running out of hair to pull
thanks
I had this once. It was an unread email in the inbox of the 'Outlook Email' account which I had never used. It was 'Welcome to Outlook' or something like that.
Might be worth a look?
hi sadly its not even that
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hi sadly its not even that
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Are you sure?? I had the same problem just as evilskanker...and it had to do with Activesync and setting up a dummy exchange server to stop Activesync from running all the time. Deleting the server didn't make it go away. I had to go into Activesync, enable mail for exchange server and then delete the email that was sitting there, then disable the email again. The only other solution was a hard reset...
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I had this once. It was an unread email in the inbox of the 'Outlook Email' account which I had never used. It was 'Welcome to Outlook' or something like that.
Might be worth a look?
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I'd agree with you as I had the exact same problem.
Hi, I had the same issue when I have done the fake exchange server trick to avoid having ActiveSync launched in the background.
Pehaps your friend has tried the fake server trick...
The way to fix your mail counter issue is to configure again the same fake server, and then, you go to your mails and you'll see a welcome mail in the exchange server inbox.
Delete it, and only then, you can delete the fake exchange server.
Because if you delete the fake server of the fake server trick without deleting the welcome mail, then you have the mail counter issue without any other way of getting rid of it.
ok, here is what you do...
Create an exchange mail account again. This time you will get a Microsoft welcome message again. Now go to your Inbox and tap the Inbox on the top left side to open folders. Then you would see the mail either in your deleted folder or any other folder. Go to that folder and delete the mail. The trick is to read the welcome mail and delete it so that it will not show as unread mail.
Actually, you can even access the Outlook folders without creating the mail account, just go to your SMS inbox and open the folder list from the top left as described above. Then choose the Outlook folder and expand, you would see the inread mail in one of those folders.
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Are you sure?? I had the same problem just as evilskanker...and it had to do with Activesync and setting up a dummy exchange server to stop Activesync from running all the time. Deleting the server didn't make it go away. I had to go into Activesync, enable mail for exchange server and then delete the email that was sitting there, then disable the email again. The only other solution was a hard reset...
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This method fixed it for me and I had tried all other options! I had originally only set up Exchange to sync with my Google contacts, but it still received a welcome email...which I had no access to as I had no email accounts set up on my phone!!
So, as above, I recreated my acount (as I had deleted it twice out of frustration) but this time enabled emails to sync also. Went into the email account and deleted the welcome emails of which there were now 3
I've got the same problem with my gmail account. It permanently shows 1 unread email but I'll be damend if I can find it. I've checked everywhere and there's nothing unread. When I browse to my mail folders, the unread one shows under gmail inbox and not under outlook email so I'm not sure if the solution above is relevant to me.
Basically I'd given up hope of fixing it, but if someone has a solution for the gmail account showing 1 unread I'd really appreciate hearing it!
Thanks
unclesomebody said:
I've got the same problem with my gmail account. It permanently shows 1 unread email but I'll be damend if I can find it. I've checked everywhere and there's nothing unread. When I browse to my mail folders, the unread one shows under gmail inbox and not under outlook email so I'm not sure if the solution above is relevant to me.
Basically I'd given up hope of fixing it, but if someone has a solution for the gmail account showing 1 unread I'd really appreciate hearing it!
Thanks
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Try to go in your messinging application (not TF3D) an take a look at every folder. i guess theres the welcome mail from microsoft (the 1st you get after creating a new account). read or delete it an all will be good
I've done exactly that and can't find it anywhere. Not in TF3D it shows that the unread email resides in my gmail inbox. Makes no sense to me.
Any resolution here yet? I am having the exact same issue. It only happens when I have ActiveSync setup for my google contacts/calendar. I assume that TouchFLO for some reason thinks there should be a mailbox attached to that account, even though there isn't.
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Any resolution here yet? I am having the exact same issue. It only happens when I have ActiveSync setup for my google contacts/calendar. I assume that TouchFLO for some reason thinks there should be a mailbox attached to that account, even though there isn't.
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i think the problem (see first post) has been that he was checking the wrong registry key.
please check the following keys:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\OtherEmail\Unread\Count
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\sync\Unread\Count
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\totalemail\Unread\Count
HI,
I've got the same problem.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\totalemail \Unread\Count always comes to 1 even if I modify it!
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I had this problem too and it bothered me for a few days. I think you are having a hard time finding the outlook folder with the welcome message.
You need to get to the Windows Mobile inbox screen (not the touch flo screen)
You can get there by clicking inbox from touch flow or start>messaging
Look in the top right hand corner of the screen for the word "inbox". Click the arrow to the right of this.
Here you should see trees - there should be whatever account you setup (gmail, etc...), outlook and sms/mms.
Click the plus sign near outlook to expand it.
I bet you will see the blue 1 next to the inbox under outlook.
I hope this helps.
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This happens when you add a non email Exchange server (Google Sync).
I just open the SMS inbox and slide to the right to find the 'Welcome Email' and delete it. Never comes back.
Saves creating the fake server or registry editting.
Yeah, this happened to me also. Brand new HTC Touch Pro2, wanting to sync with Google Calendar and Contacts, then I get this "phantom" unread message count. I attempted to connect to my Google Gmail account calendar & contacts via ActiveSync. I made a few mistakes along the way (had to delete & recreate connection once), but am now successful in connecting the phone contact & calendar list with Google. I selected ONLY the Calendar and Contacts to sync via ActiveSync.
The "new message" green circle icon now appears over the "mail" icon in the TouchFlo 3D UI, with the number "3". This number happens to correspond to the number of times I created (then deleted) the ActiveSync connection to Google Calendar & Contacts. When I enter the "Mail" selection (WM's 'Messaging'), I do have a Gmail account established (using IMAP4) but there exists no unread messages.
For a while, I was unable to get the "3" unread Mail message notification to cancel from the TouchFlo 3D UI. I have no unread messages (text or email). I've attempted to delete & re-establish my IMAP4 connection, but the situation remains. I have attempted to delete & re-create the ActiveSync connection to Google, and when I do that step, the phantom quantity of unread messages (the number in the green circle over the "envelope") increases by 1.
The fix mentioned above by VizagDude works. Here it is again with slightly more information:
From TouchFlo 3D's main screen, slide over to the "mail" icon.
click on Menu (bottom right of screen)
click on "Accounts >", then "Accounts...". This brings up the "Messaging" view
Select the "SMS/MMS" account entry (should be the first one in the list). You should see a list of text message threads that you've recently sent.
From the SMS/MMS menu entry, click on the dropdown arrow next to "Inbox" (top left of screen).
In this dropdown, you should see an entry in the tree called "Outlook E-Mail" in the list of folders. Click on the "Outlook E-Mail" entry in the tree.
Within "Outlook E-Mail", open the inbox folder, there will be a number of new emails titled "E-mail Tips and Tricks". (How kind of MS to secretly welcome us to the wonderful world of email )
delete those messages.
The count of unread messages will now match your actual unread messages from other email accounts that are on your phone.
I have the exact same issue, but unlike some of you I dont have problems with the Outlook acc I have, its with my private pop-account. It has a perpetual "1" attached to the inbox. I have cheched all paths to the inbox and there is no way fixing it. Last time hard reset did, but thats hardly favourable...
Agh! This bugs me. I have aboslutely no new email in my account. I've checked all folders. Under the mail app's folder tree it says 2 unread in my pop account's inbox, and says 2 on the touchflo tab. It was one for a while, and now there's a second one there. This happened to me on Dutty's before, now I'm on Miri's WM 6.5 Sense 2.5 v15.
Is there some way to fix this and ideally keep it from happening? None of the fixes above helped.
I collect my email from a POP3 server which works fine to a point.
However unlike the PC version of Outlook which collects the mail and retains it until it is deleted from the Inbox my PDA version is behaving as though it were connected to an IMAP server and removes the mail from the Inbox as soon as it is removed from the POP3 server.
I don't recall this happening when I first got the phone but can't be sure. Can anyone else confirm what happens with their POP3 mail ?
Ideally, I would like the messages I have downloaded to stay on the phone until I delete them manually which is what I thought used to happen.
Thanks
You can indeed set an option to do this. Can't remember exactly where but it's in the account settings somewhere. I'm using imap now so can check.
Under the tool/options tab, tick the box that says "Leave a copy of message on server"... I had the same problem until I discovered this. Hope that helps.
SilverSnow said:
Under the tool/options tab, tick the box that says "Leave a copy of message on server"... I had the same problem until I discovered this. Hope that helps.
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Many thanks for the replies.
The problem is actually the other way round. I can delete a message on the phone without it removing the message from the POP3 Server. But if I delete the message from the POP3 server it is removed from the phone as soon as I do a "Send and Receive". In other words the POP3 server seems to be behaving as though it were an IMAP server.
Can anyone confirm whether this happens with their POP3 server or is just mine? As I said I don't think it used to do that.
Thanks in advance.
On my phone I can't find the "leave a copy of message on server" tick box. And as soon as I download the message, read it, and press send/receive once more, the message is deleted both from the phone and from the server!! This renders the phone utterly useless for emails, since I want to download all messages to my PC whenever I get home. I don't need the messages I delete on the phone to remain on the server, but once I get home and receive the messages in Outlook, they disappear on the server and thus when I send/receive on the phone they're all gone from the phone inbox which is fine.
This worked fine on my original stock rom on the TouchHD, but since I flashed to a 6.5.5 ROM it's all messed up. I've tried 3 different 6.5.5 ROMs.
Any idea how to fix this?
Regards,
Tummen
I have searched for email problems but found none that describe my problem.
The problem is this.
1. Emails that have been read, but not deleted are removed from my HD2.
2. I get a notification that an email has been delivered. If i don't read that email, pick up my phone and so on. I can return to my phone knowing that i should have a message to read and find none.
I believe that what may be happening is that my emails are getting cleared down on every send/receive schedule.
Can anyone assist?
I am not saving messages to the SIM card currently.
I had that problem.
I guess that messages are deleted from hd2 when they are deleted from mail server
In other words, when you download them with computer for example, where you probably set it to: delete messages from server after they are downloaded, they are deleted from hd2 after next send,receive...
So I guess that these emails you would like to read them on your hd2 are deleted because in the mean time you or some software deleted them from email server
I find this happens if I empty the deleted items folder in Outlook on the Windows PC to which my HD2 is synched.
Disappearing email
On HTC Touch HD, when I wanted to save an email, I have deleted it. In that way it stayed preserved in the "deleted items" folder.
However, on HD2 email is disappearing from that folder also, after it has been deleted on the server.
Is there any way to save e-mails permanently on HD2? Except moving it to the "drafts" folder...
CRO_Misho said:
On HTC Touch HD, when I wanted to save an email, I have deleted it. In that way it stayed preserved in the "deleted items" folder.
However, on HD2 email is disappearing from that folder also, after it has been deleted on the server.
Is there any way to save e-mails permanently on HD2? Except moving it to the "drafts" folder...
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find the email options screen that lets you set the storage location, and on that page is the option to control when and how to empty the deleted items which by default is set to automatic on connect disconnect.
samsamuel said:
find the email options screen that lets you set the storage location, and on that page is the option to control when and how to empty the deleted items which by default is set to automatic on connect disconnect.
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Thank you for your reply, samsamuel!
I have tried to find an email option screen that you are referring to, but I just don't see it anywhere.
Could you please guide me to it?
TNX
sure, from home screen go mail -inbox -menu -scroll down to tools -options switch to storage tab and there it is.
Oooops, I 've missed the scroll down part.
TNX
hehe you aren't the first
Hi there!
I have the same problem, but this problem persists...
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find the email options screen that lets you set the storage location,
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Ok, done.
samsamuel said:
and on that page is the option to control when and how to empty the deleted items which by default is set to automatic on connect disconnect.
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Ok, switched to "Manually".
What I do (just for testing purposes):
1- I'm at home and using Outlook 2003, so from one email account of mine I send a short email to THE email account which is also set up in my HD2.
2- Once I see the email has been delivered, I force my HD2 to refresh and I receive the email.
3- Now I refresh Send/Receive in my Outlook. Fine, I receive the message too.
4- Finally, I refresh again (Send/Receive) in my HD2...
5- The email I had on my HD2 screen, is gone. If I go to my InBox folder, there's nothing there.
What's wrong? Although I know the server deletes the messages, why can't my HD2 keep a message that had already been received?
Cheers,
Mano75 said:
Hi there!
I have the same problem, but this problem persists...
Ok, done.
Ok, switched to "Manually".
What I do (just for testing purposes):
1- I'm at home and using Outlook 2003, so from one email account of mine I send a short email to THE email account which is also set up in my HD2.
2- Once I see the email has been delivered, I force my HD2 to refresh and I receive the email.
3- Now I refresh Send/Receive in my Outlook. Fine, I receive the message too.
4- Finally, I refresh again (Send/Receive) in my HD2...
5- The email I had on my HD2 screen, is gone. If I go to my InBox folder, there's nothing there.
What's wrong? Although I know the server deletes the messages, why can't my HD2 keep a message that had already been received?
Cheers,
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thats because when you check the account from the mobile, it leaves a copy of the email on the server, and creates a copy in your phones inbox. When you check from Outlook on the pc, it physically downloads the email, thus removing it from the server, so when you check again from the phone, the inbox is empty.
You can alter outlook to not remove messages, but you end up with all your mail stored on your pop server, and the isp might not like it if it grows too large.
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thats because when you check the account from the mobile, it leaves a copy of the email on the server, and creates a copy in your phones inbox. When you check from Outlook on the pc, it physically downloads the email, thus removing it from the server, so when you check again from the phone, the inbox is empty.
You can alter outlook to not remove messages, but you end up with all your mail stored on your pop server, and the isp might not like it if it grows too large.
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Hi there samsamuel. Thanks for your answer.
I understand this behaviour, but what I can't possibly understand is why the email is not kept in my HD2: I get the notification, I click to download it, hence, in that very moment a copy of the email is in my device. Then, why can't it be kept in my device if it was already there!?
It's fine if later on, it refreshes and it detects that there's no email in the server's inbox....but please, don't delete me the copy that I already had in my device! It has no sense!
Isn't there an option to keep these copies?
And yes, you're right, I don't want to alter my outlook, that would be a nightmare.
Cheers!
No choice for that?
Are you all happy with this email behaviour?
..I'm asking because there seems not to be a solution for this...
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I'm having the same problem man... it's giving me the ****S. How do I put android on this PoS HD2?!
figured it out...
Open inbox > Menu (scroll down to tools) > Options > Click your email account > skip through all the bull**** until you get to the "Email Setup, automatic send / receive & dowload messages" drop down boxes screens, Hit "Advanced Settings", then change the 'When deleting messages:' from delete them off the server to keep them on the server.
Stupid WinMo.
Try an email account that supports IMAP. Some providers allow POP3 or IMAP so you might not have to change accounts.
I don't like the way IMAP looks in Outlook, but it works much better across several devices. I have two PCs and a couple of phones. No matter where I am, each device always reflects what is ACTUALLY in my email online. It took a little adjusting to, but I think it's much better. In Active Sync/Windows Mobile Devie Center, I no longer have Outlook set to synchronise with my device. Try signing up for a free Gmail account and try it on your phone and in Outlook on a PC and see what you think...
Somehow found what seems to be the problem...
inbox - tools - options - accounts tab - choose your account - edit account setup - click next until:
Automatic Send/Receive:
[Every 60 minutes]
Download messages:
[From past 3 days]
Change this from past 3 days to All messages and voila!
It's seems to save space by providing you only with latest e-mails. Make sure to do the Storage options mentioned earlier!
So I notice I have a new email notification, when I check my email in SenseUI, I hit:
Menu > Delete Message
but about 10 or 15mins later, ill get another email notification, it's the same email I just deleted (or so I thought). I've tried this repeatedly and it will still come back. Ill even click the 'Inbox' and see it's gone, only to find out, it came back. The only way it will delete is if I click 'Inbox' instead of 'Menu' and view my email through WinMo, than click the email and hit 'Menu' > 'Delete'.
This is gotta be a bug, how do I go about fixing this? It's really annoying -_-
"Delete" works for me for Exchange account, doesn't work for gmail.
I'm using Gmail, so make sense, but why on earth would it not work for Gmail? This is frustrating.
this just started to happen to me about an hour ago.
I looked through the settings to try to find the keep a copy on the server option but cannot find that for accounts outside of exchange (windows life / outlook) My yahoo and gmail accounts keep pushing emails.
I recreated both accounts and never saw the option to delete the message from the server as well. I have not had time to really look though.
Any update?
Dont use Menu>delete. Just use the soft leftkey DELETE and it wont come back.
have you tried
emails tab - inbox - menu - tools - options - tap the account you are interested in
click send/recieve schedule - bottom of screen click advanced settings and check teh dropdown 'when deleting messages' is set to delete them off the server.
I had this problem with AOL on my HD2 (shush, now. I like AOL mail, dammit!). I found that opening the mail and then deleting it from the menu got rid of the notification, but the mail, itself, would get pushed back every time I got new mail on the server (although without a notification of it being new). It would only truly be deleted when I did so from my PC. It's no biggie as it no longer tells me I have a new message when I don't, but I guess it could be bothersome for folks that get more e-mail than I do.
Note: I don't have this problem with G-mail at all.