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Cmon HD2/Android Development!!!

Android Running On The iPhone
Yea yea yea I know its a iPhone, different OS, blah blah blah...But I figured that was pretty cool.

What does this have to do with HD2 Android development? This is what the "General Discussion" category is for.

well gee,... dont read it if it bothers you so much. How much sense does it make to flame him for this?

My guess he is saying that if they got it on the iPhone the Devs should hurry up and get it going on the HD. Well if you would like it sooner then help out in some way other just starting a thread asking for it.

Wil Badger said:
My guess he is saying that if they got it on the iPhone the Devs should hurry up and get it going on the HD. Well if you would like it sooner then help out in some way other just starting a thread asking for it.
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Yeah, it just irritates me when people act like the developers should have it ported already and don't show appreciation for all the hard work and progress they have made on it. They are making GREAT progress and are spending their time doing it for free. By the title of this thread and it's content, it sounds like just what you said... that the iphone has it now so it should be done for the HD2 by now. I have been replying to most of the many threads started about the HD2 android/linux port and try to explain just how much work it actually takes. People seem to think it's just like cooking a rom or that having an android phone with similar specs should make it an easy port... but it's much more complicated than that.

Oh I know that. That is one of the reason most of my stuff never gets released.

god dangit!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
there's the DEVELOPER thread
don't post useless crap in there
Can we please stop these android threads??? I mean ffs if you wanted android get a flipping android powered device! Want android on an htc? Get the touch pro 2!
I mean this is retarded every week 2 new android threads??? seriously??? aiya

LMAO Ok calm down yall I just said that was pretty cool....no big deal. If you didnt want to see a android thread dont click on a title that clearly says it. Point blank.

So basically, the iPhone has been out for like 3 or 4 years and one guy has a port.

I'm one of the few who aren't impressed with Android. I find WinMo 6.5 to be much smoother, faster and overall better than even the best Android phone out right now. So I hope HTC doesn't turn the HD2 or HTxx into a Google based phone.

On top of all that the linux developement on iphone has been going on for a while now too. The fact that its on the phone is cool but its still in alpha status. HD2 just started so yea.... def cool to see that though.

JonFolse said:
LMAO Ok calm down yall I just said that was pretty cool....no big deal. If you didnt want to see a android thread dont click on a title that clearly says it. Point blank.
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or...you can click in the upper right hand corner and click search and comment accordingly in the linux discussion thread and not spam the boards with duplicate postings ad nauseum too
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i just don't get it?

you know i was just reviewing the tp2 section of xda, the android section i should say. i see they have a port of ubutnu for the phone now. i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?

fixxxer2008 said:
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?
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For anybody that doesn't want to have to read this sentence 10 times to understand it, here's a punctuated and readable version:
If I were a Touch Pro 2 owner, and I actually was for a very brief period, I'd want a full port of Android, much like the Vogue users had.

I don't get what you are trying to say....
@ubuntu, the TP2 has a physical keyboard so ubuntu would be much more practical then on the hero.
@android port for TP2, ummmmm who cares about the TP2? I used dzo's android port for a long time and I greatly respect everything that they have accomplished. It truly is amazing.

I agree.
fixxxer2008 said:
you know i was just reviewing the tp2 section of xda, the android section i should say. i see they have a port of ubutnu for the phone now. i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?
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The sole reason I didn't get the TP2 was the fact it was running WinMo.
WinMo has to be the worst phone UI ever, why the heck would anyone want to use a stylus to navigate the UI. Nevermind the fact I've never heard one positive review of Windows Mobile as far as speed was concerned.
-Mike

if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able
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For anybody that doesn't want to have to read this sentence 10 times to understand it, here's a punctuated and readable version:
If I were a Touch Pro 2 owner, and I actually was for a very brief period, I'd want a full port of Android, much like the Vogue users had.
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I only read it 7 times.

sorry i was sick as hell yesterday and still am. thanks mr grammar nazi's!
my point was having a port of ubuntu is stupid IMO, id rather have a fully working android port that could be flashed to nand like the vogue users have. got it now?

I dunno if I had a TP2 and then upgraded to something else but still had my old TP2 laying around. I would most likely put something like ubuntu on it for ****s and giggles.

fixxxer,
wow, you've graduated from useless personal opinion posts to starting whole new useless personal opinion threads. Way to go man, you're really making progress. Congratulations.
I might have a couple ideas as to why someone would attempt to run ubuntu, debian or just about anything else on their phone:
1. just because
2. it's a challenge just to see if you can do it
3. It's fun
4. did I mention "just because"
Just a heads up: your frustration over not having the skills to do these things yourself is showing...muffintop

nebenezer said:
fixxxer,
wow, you've graduated from useless personal opinion posts to starting whole new useless personal opinion threads. Way to go man, you're really making progress. Congratulations.
I might have a couple ideas as to why someone would attempt to run ubuntu, debian or just about anything else on their phone:
1. just because
2. it's a challenge just to see if you can do it
3. It's fun
4. did I mention "just because"
Just a heads up: your frustration over not having the skills to do these things yourself is showing...muffintop
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what crawled up your ass? what just because i posted an opinion about that app you helped create? the point of a message board is to create, help and debate. all i did was give an opinion, there is no reason for you to get all worked up. it's not like i said it was useless.

Actually, man, if you leave out the first and last paragraphs and just read his list, he answered your question perfectly. The fact that you don't get it says s lot. This is, at its base, a community of hackers (or hacker wannabes, like me). Half the reason we do ANYTHING with our phones is because we can. Just for the sheer unadulterated HELL OF IT! Kinda like choosing to do themes the hard way yourself, rather than using metamorph. The fact that some of what we do makes our phones more functional is sometimes almost secondary to the feeling of having got your hands dirty and done something yourself. It is the same thing that drives people to DIY rather than just buying the finished product at the store...even when you might have saved a buck and some time just dropping the cash.

fixxxer2008 said:
what crawled up your ass? what just because i posted an opinion about that app you helped create? the point of a message board is to create, help and debate. all i did was give an opinion, there is no reason for you to get all worked up. it's not like i said it was useless.
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"didnt say regaw's toolbox was useless" either, did you? I'm tired of seeing the same old crap from you already. Every time I see your name on a post I jump past it, every thread you own I skip, for the sole reason of not feeling like reading useless BS

jerry43812 said:
"didnt say regaw's toolbox was useless" either, did you? I'm tired of seeing the same old crap from you already. Every time I see your name on a post I jump past it, every thread you own I skip, for the sole reason of not feeling like reading useless BS
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Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.

sandboxlove said:
i know its lame, but dont people still follow if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything atall? i lurked for 2 months before i joined because i was scared people would be rude to me for asking questions/expressing opinions. xda doesnt have a bad name, only the cdma hero section. every other portal, every other FORUM, people never act like some of the people here. i think most of the people here are teenagers or lonely old men, which would explain alot.
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I'm beginning to think that too.

alright guys lets ton it down, i don't need all of my threads locked because neb is on the rag today. lets just forget it. i swear sometimes this site lives up to it's bad name.

smoother2010 said:
Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.
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settle down man, i don't need you defending me. thanks but your thoughts are not mine. yes neb misunderstood what i said but let it go.

In an attempt to bring this thread back around to topic and stop some of the bickering:
The reasons I see for doing something like installing Debian or Ubuntu on a phone are pretty simple:
1. To see what is possible
2. To find out what your are capable of
3. To find out what the device is capable of
4. To do something that no one else around you has done
In other words, why not?

tejasrichard said:
In an attempt to bring this thread back around to topic and stop some of the bickering:
The reasons I see for doing something like installing Debian or Ubuntu on a phone are pretty simple:
1. To see what is possible
2. To find out what your are capable of
3. To find out what the device is capable of
4. To do something that no one else around you has done
In other words, why not?
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im not dissing it per say but i think a full port of android would be better. i know they pretty much abandoned android for ubuntu and there was quite a few people upset.

smoother2010 said:
Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.
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Quit trolling this dude's threads? he dont mean a damn thing to me, and neither do you, but his actions as well as yours are uncalled for including trolling other peoples threads claiming the stuff they spend countless hours on is "useless"
join after I do but post more than I? who be the troll here, sweetie?
Have a good night.

I honestly don't know any of the background details of what was going on in the TP2 forum. This is what i was responding to:
fixxxer2008 said:
i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
get what im trying to say?
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Sometimes the purpose is the trip not the destination. That's how I feel about hacking our phones, anyway. 90% of the time, I don't really need to be able to access my desktop and take control of it through VNC, but the fact that I can makes me really happy. I don't need to be able to stream HD movies on my phone, but the fact that I will be able to with the evo has me excited. What color flashes on the screen when i tap an app doesn't really make a flying fvck in the long run, but I like the glassy blue, so I rip into every rom I download and change it. To me, that is the why that answers your initial question. To someone for whom the end functionality is the ultimate goal, the this may not make any sense, but to someone else who enjoys the process of creation and tinkering, the opposite might be true. And in a community of devs and hackers, i think you are likely to find as many or more of the latter than the former.

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[Q] A Very Important Question

You will all take the level of importance of this question as your own but I have had a query burning in my mind for a while.
I know that currently the Android OS is a BUILD and it takes a wm ROM to launch off, but I was wondering is there a way for the HTC LEO to run DROID ONLY and never have to associate itself or use WM ROMS ever again. Essentially I am asking is there a way to create a ANDROID ROM for the HTC LEO?
Note: Can the answers be open minded and not fuelled by programmers knowledge as most programmers I know will only give answers in the current boundaries of technology, but I do urge you to remember that at one point Computers were impossible...but they did it. I hope the programmers here do not take offence to this, I just want to know is it theoretically possible.
Thank you in advance.

norodaigh said:
You will all take the level of importance of this question as your own but I have had a query burning in my mind for a while.
I know that currently the Android OS is a BUILD and it takes a wm ROM to launch off, but I was wondering is there a way for the HTC LEO to run DROID ONLY and never have to associate itself or use WM ROMS ever again. Essentially I am asking is there a way to create a ANDROID ROM for the HTC LEO?
Note: Can the answers be open minded and not fuelled by programmers knowledge as most programmers I know will only give answers in the current boundaries of technology, but I do urge you to remember that at one point Computers were impossible...but they did it. I hope the programmers here do not take offence to this, I just want to know is it theoretically possible.
Thank you in advance.
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It's a work in progress. People is working on the bootloader and we are going to flash directly the rom in the phone.
Doesnt know yet the details.

Anyone else got more word?

Atleast a thousand threads about this, and once like yours every week. Its called NAND. Search for that
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Search and read....
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thread moved to Q&A.

norodaigh said:
Anyone else got more word?
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we got your word but its pretty obvious you have not read enough in this community
and your topic is not in its proper forum.
norpan111 said:
Atleast a thousand threads about this, and once like yours every week. Its called NAND. Search for that
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just report any out of topic threads using the small triangle with exclamation mark
on the right upper hand corner of the post. so to alert the mods and
then it will be moved to general discussion

NAND http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732160
Updates to the project http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261
I had also wondered about this as I just got a HD2 last week, my very first smartphone. I put Android on it and love it, I didn't care to much for Windows Mobile. If people would have developed apps for it like iOS and Android I would have stay with winmo but I really wanted that Sirius XM app

jigners said:
we got your word but its pretty obvious you have not read enough in this community
and your topic is not in its proper forum
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It is pretty obvious isn't it, don't mind being a little nicer next time? Pretentious.

norodaigh said:
It is pretty obvious isn't it, don't mind being a little nicer next time? Pretentious.
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You should be glad that you got help at all. People get upset when other people want to know something and does zero research of their own. That's why first people gets annoyed sometimes ;d
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Ok guys lol,
I think the OP has got the gist of what your saying, lets keep the flames cool please, thanks.
Tim.

norpan111 said:
You should be glad that you got help at all. People get upset when other people want to know something and does zero research of their own. That's why first people gets annoyed sometimes ;d
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I understand what your saying but this is a 'community forum' everyone is here to help everyone or have I completely missed the point?

norodaigh said:
I understand what your saying but this is a 'community forum' everyone is here to help everyone or have I completely missed the point?
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There's a difference between helping and spoon-feeding. a ten second search would have avoided this whole thread.

Reno_79 said:
There's a difference between helping and spoon-feeding. a ten second search would have avoided this whole thread.
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100% agree with this (i often say it too), with a few exceptions tho
the big NAND question being 1 of them, if you are fairly new to this scene, it can be info overload & without reading every thread this info is easy to miss.
how does "NAND" translate into Android Rom? unless you've been been around for a while you wont know.

kam333 said:
100% agree with this (i often say it too), with a few exceptions tho
the big NAND question being 1 of them, if you are fairly new to this scene, it can be info overload & without reading every thread this info is easy to miss.
how does "NAND" translate into Android Rom? unless you've been been around for a while you wont know.
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as much as i hate redundant threads like this, that's true.

true, but reading the stickies @ the top of each forum would have answered it,....
infact the verry first stickie in the HD2 android general forum is all about it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261
there i even linked to it for those that cant find it...

kam333 said:
100% agree with this (i often say it too), with a few exceptions tho
the big NAND question being 1 of them, if you are fairly new to this scene, it can be info overload & without reading every thread this info is easy to miss.
how does "NAND" translate into Android Rom? unless you've been been around for a while you wont know.
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Thanks dude

[REQUEST] WP7 Port

I feel like this should be posted under development, but since I just created a new account, I am unable to post it under that particular subject. So, if one of you kind moderators are reading this, please don't delete this.
I just simply wanted to ask if there was a possibility of porting a Windows Phone 7 rom to the HTC Evo 4g. If so, then could somebody do it for me? I'm a n00b at pretty much everything except for rooting and flashing roms to phones, so I need a little help from the people that know how to do these things.

yeah give me a few minutes, I'll whip up a WP7 rom for you.

I'm pretty sure you'd be sued off the face.of the earth by msoft. Wp7 is closed source, android is open.
Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters

The Impaler said:
I feel like I should be searching for the answer to this question, but since I just created a new account, I am too lazy to do that. So, if you all would indulge my laziness I'm just going to ask the question and wait for one of you to find the answer for me.
I just simply wanted to ask if there was a possibility of porting a Windows Phone 7 rom to the HTC Evo 4g. If so, then could somebody do it for me? I'm a n00b at pretty much everything.
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Fixed that for ya'.

MaxCarnage said:
Fixed that for ya'.
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You my friend win "post of the day"

The Impaler said:
I feel like this should be posted under development, but since I just created a new account, I am unable to post it under that particular subject. So, if one of you kind moderators are reading this, please don't delete this.
I just simply wanted to ask if there was a possibility of porting a Windows Phone 7 rom to the HTC Evo 4g. If so, then could somebody do it for me? I'm a n00b at pretty much everything except for rooting and flashing roms to phones, so I need a little help from the people that know how to do these things.
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The only phone that has been successfully ported from WM6.1 to Android and WP7 is the HTC HD2, and that is GSM so it won't work with Sprint.

newter55 said:
You my friend win "post of the day"
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I have so many people to thank...

watt9493 said:
I'm pretty sure you'd be sued off the face.of the earth by msoft. Wp7 is closed source, android is open.
Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters
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I'm sorry, I didn't know that it was closed source. I don't really pay attention much to it. I just like the UI, however I dont like that Launcher 7 has like 2 live tiles. Sorry for the trouble.

The Impaler said:
I'm sorry, I didn't know that it was closed source. I don't really pay attention much to it. I just like the UI, however I dont like that Launcher 7 has like 2 live tiles. Sorry for the trouble.
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Perhaps you should purchase a WP7 phone?

github said:
Perhaps you should purchase a WP7 phone?
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I just wanted to experiment around with it, not have it for daily use. But I understand why I sound stupid for asking about it xD

Does window phone 7 come with symantec?
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The Impaler said:
I just wanted to experiment around with it, not have it for daily use. But I understand why I sound stupid for asking about it xD
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Not stupid for asking....just that the question has already been asked. Therefore you either didn't search first, or if you did, you didn't like the reasons behind why it hasn't happened yet so you optimistically created a new thread thinking that a different response would occur.
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real sense 4.0 rom for hd2

hello guys
i kno its silly question, but i really want working sense 4.0 rom for ma hd2.
tried all roms but cant find proper one.
can anybody suggest me?

kslakhani said:
hello guys
i kno its silly question, but i really want working sense 4.0 rom for ma hd2.
tried all roms but cant find proper one.
can anybody suggest me?
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1 wrong section
2 do you see a sense 4 rom anywhere in the dev section
3 learn to use the search button
4 reported
5 watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA

I suggested ban for you since you are old member :angel:

zexmunze said:
I suggested ban for you since you are old member :angel:
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Agree

wonder why this thread was moved instead of just deleted or locked

zexmunze said:
I suggested ban for you since you are old member :angel:
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I think u got a plenty of time for negative suggestions yeah but who cares man

0719andy said:
Agree
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Agreed

kslakhani said:
Agreed
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You agree with him agreeing that you should be banned (which I also agree with btw)? Or are you posting a spelling correction, in which case you should really read your own OP before trying to correct others.

short massage
there was a rom in development section but the developer of the rom got bored because of the members who ask for eta a lot and accusing him of detching his own rom development then he upgraded his mobile phone and moved along and leaved a reply in the rom thread that if he was able to fix problems in the rom he wouldnt do it because of those people who just think developers are machines they dont get sick they dont get tired they dont have real life and this is completely wrong they are not bound to update their roms or make another updated but they do it because they like to do it and for the sake of the legend (HD2) to get the most out of it
sorry for bad english

yeyoo said:
there was a rom in development section but the developer of the rom got bored because of the members who ask for eta a lot and accusing him of detching his own rom development then he upgraded his mobile phone and moved along and leaved a reply in the rom thread that if he was able to fix problems in the rom he wouldnt do it because of those people who just think developers are machines they dont get sick they dont get tired they dont have real life and this is completely wrong they are not bound to update their roms or make another updated but they do it because they like to do it and for the sake of the legend (HD2) to get the most out of it
sorry for bad english
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Thanks buddy for yr response
Yeah that was the only rom I think. Tried so many time but not find anything

Nigeldg said:
You agree with him agreeing that you should be banned (which I also agree with btw)? Or are you posting a spelling correction, in which case you should really read your own OP before trying to correct others.
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U agreed as well to ban me right?
I don't give a shiiiiiit

yeyoo said:
there was a rom in development section but the developer of the rom got bored because of the members who ask for eta a lot and accusing him of detching his own rom development then he upgraded his mobile phone and moved along and leaved a reply in the rom thread that if he was able to fix problems in the rom he wouldnt do it because of those people who just think developers are machines they dont get sick they dont get tired they dont have real life and this is completely wrong they are not bound to update their roms or make another updated but they do it because they like to do it and for the sake of the legend (HD2) to get the most out of it
sorry for bad english
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kslakhani said:
Thanks buddy for yr response
Yeah that was the only rom I think. Tried so many time but not find anything
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In other words, Sbryan was sick of douches like you (kslakhani) who just kept asking him to fix things and make the ROM work. You really don't appear to understand XDA at all, you probably shouldn't come on here too much.

First of all I hardly asked anybody to fix things.
I always appreciated their efforts and u know its up to them whether they wanna do it or not.
Check my posts before giving yr pointless opinions
I m quiet old user so what do I have to keep posting? I don't think so
I always been a fan of xda and will b.
I really don't understand whats yr problem.
What abt those who left negative onions abt me. why u don't tell them. I never left such things for anyone.
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We had valid reason to leave negative opinions, your posts are completely pointless.

Screw your problems with asking questions or anything, jeez, chill out.
There's no real Sense 4 ROM for HD2 yet, but there is one for Desire. All we need is one man who would like to spend his time porting that **** to our device. Want it? Do it yourself or wait for someone else who wants it too and will do it for you.

Spaqin said:
Screw your problems with asking questions or anything, jeez, chill out.
There's no real Sense 4 ROM for HD2 yet, but there is one for Desire. All we need is one man who would like to spend his time porting that **** to our device. Want it? Do it yourself or wait for someone else who wants it too and will do it for you.
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lets hope

No sir, you were supposed to say "I shall learn the magic of porting different ROMs to our holy device, and then make it usable!"

kslakhani said:
hello guys
i kno its silly question, but i really want working sense 4.0 rom for ma hd2.
tried all roms but cant find proper one.
can anybody suggest me?
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with sense theme installed is a good way