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HTC Evo 4G

Ahhh, idk about this one..
I think it's too big...
what do you guys think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnQcsC-qjpo

If i was on sprint my phone would already be on ebay.

Android Touch said:
Ahhh, idk about this one..
I think it's too big...
what do you guys think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnQcsC-qjpo
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Same size as the HD2, which is NOT too big...the overall dimensions of the phone are just a little taller than our N1 and about it looks like half an inch wider.
darx said:
If i was on sprint my phone would already be on ebay.
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+1

i really dig the kickstand.. pretty cool feature
front facing 1.3 mp camera is pretty cool, video chatting ftw
1500mah battery will not last long in there at all
id consider selling my tmo nexus1 when that comes out on sprint
depends on how sprint decides to handle their 4g data plans
afaik they will not be offering all you can use on 4g

malicious85 said:
i really dig the kickstand.. pretty cool feature
front facing 1.3 mp camera is pretty cool, video chatting ftw
1500mah battery will not last long in there at all
id consider selling my tmo nexus1 when that comes out on sprint
depends on how sprint decides to handle their 4g data plans
afaik they will not be offering all you can use on 4g
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The battery can't be any less than ours... we're at 1400mah, right?

uansari1 said:
The battery can't be any less than ours... we're at 1400mah, right?
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bigger screen is gonna suck more juice, not to mention all the extra goodies that phone has
yeah the nexus has 1400

Man Apple is [email protected]#CKED

Paul22000 said:
Man Apple is [email protected]#CKED
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There is nothing the new iPhone that will come out this year have that will be better than the EVO!!! **** I want it

I'm personally sick of chasing phones, my n1 seems pretty cool still, nothing really kicks its arse...
Plus imo its too big.. the hd2 looked way bigger than my n1 when I compared them...
4.0 would be perfect... I most definitely ain't switching providers.... n1 for me all year unless a better processor comes out I could care less about the camera and front camera... just my opinion...
But looks cool though

I don't think the big screen is gonna be pocket friendly and HTC is just throwing phones out there that won't reach quick updates like the Nexus. Sure the Evo is better spec'd but the support the Nexus will get from Google will keep it at the top until Googles Nexus Two. I just think all these random HTC Android phones like the Incredible, Desire, and the Evo are one and done androids. They will get Android 3.0 like 8 months after the Nexus and that will most likely be it. While the Nexus is there getting fed updates.

I really am excited to see applrs response to all these amazing phones.

getting it on the first day without a doubt.

CDMA fail...

After switching from an iPhone 3gs I really have come to despise exclusivity agreements with carriers the way the EVO 4g will be. If HTC goes out of their way to make the EVO 4g available on all the carriers the way Google is going to do with the N1 then I would consider EVO 4g but otherwise I wont support that kind of shady business practice anymore. This is why I support an open company like Google which puts the customer first and gives them options they are asking for.

ap3604 said:
After switching from an iPhone 3gs I really have come to despise exclusivity agreements with carriers. I still cant believe how great it is that the N1 will be available on ALL major carriers. If HTC goes out of their way to make the Supersonic available on all the carriers the way Google did I would consider it but otherwise I wont support that kind of shady business practice anymore. This is why I support an open company like Google which puts the customer first and gives them options they are asking for.
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HTC sadly won't make it available for all 4 and doubtful if any of them but Sprint. Hopefully my predictions wrong though

Ok.. so while a couple of you have good point, it seems that the majority is in denial because you already bought the Nexus One. I own an N1 too guys...but I can honestly say that the Evo 4G is going to be a great phone for Sprint. At the end of the day, this is going to help Android increase their market share, which is what we all should be rooting for.

uansari1 said:
Ok.. so while a couple of you have good point, it seems that the majority is in denial because you already bought the Nexus One. I own an N1 too guys...but I can honestly say that the Evo 4G is going to be a great phone for Sprint. At the end of the day, this is going to help Android increase their market share, which is what we all should be rooting for.
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I didn't want to be the one to say it haha. this phone trumps the n1 in all ways except design.

darx said:
I didn't want to be the one to say it haha. this phone trumps the n1 in all ways except design.
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It doesn't support 802.11n. Does it have an AMOLED display?

TFJ4 said:
CDMA fail...
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ya maybe with Sprint...

Aesthetics45 said:
ya maybe with Sprint...
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nope i had 3g every i went with sprint, even in places where my verizon and at&T friends had no coverage i did ..i miss that network :/ but im glad i was able to cancel my contract through that loop hole because now i can get it subsidized and no contract with tmobile so everything is just working perfectly

One more day left..

For my Sprint 30 day guarantee. Tomorrow is the last day I can return my Evo and walk away without a termination fee. Im coming from Tmobile and have used just about all their phones and all iphones, and the Evo holds its own. I love the screen size, and its build quality. But the main thing ive liked is the 3g coverage, its no where near as fast as Tmobile in my area, but i do alot of highway driving and get 1mb plus everywhere. With Tmobile once i started getting away from the city it would drop to edge. I guess ill go play with tmobiles new Mytouch 4g and make my decision there. I just sold the g2 i had which i hated, but I still own my Vibrant and iphone 4 so i could always go back.
But so far what I Like:
Screen size!!!!!
Build quality!
Dual Flash
3g Coverage
Development support.
What I dont like:
Super amoled looks wayy better.
3g is slower but still fine (Evo= 1mb+ to Vibrant=5mb downloads)
Graphics Suck. Live wallpaper slows it down, and 3d gaming is barely playable
Sprints Customer service is no where near as good as Tmobiles.

Oh yeah after a talk with sprints retention departmnet, They waived my actication fee, and provided me with a credit of $50 since I mentioned the Evo could be acquired online for $150, just in order to keep my service. And right at the end when I mentioned I would continue to think about it, the rep offered me a $10 credit every month for the rest of the contract (24months). This would kick in on my next billing cycle.
My 27% discount would also kick in next bill, making my total bill $50 plus tax which is still a little more than if id return to tmobile

Kinda hard to argue with those discounts, not a bad deal right there.
But I can't understand how you like AMOLED screens more, YUCK! They always look odd to me, too blue or too vibrant and kind of pixel-y? They are more readable in some situations but still I think they look awful.

Not gonna lie... i really like the new myTouch. I am a fan of sense... also, hspa+ rocks in my area, and gsm is easier on battery than cdma. Add to that our wimax radios... lol, still love my evo though...

Is say they earned your business, man that makes me think I need to complain more..lol
The ten dollars off every month would more then compensate for the cost of the phone its self.
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After having the Evo I just dont see how i can ever own anything smaller than a 4.3in screen. Ill more than likely stick with The evo untill sprint or another carrier releases a highend 4.3in that isnt lock down. I do love the phone, just wished it could handle graphics better.
With the discounts im getting and the coolness of the Evo ill probably stick to Sprint for now unless the mytouch4g blows me away, which at 3.8in I dont think it will.
Now the Nexus S/2 could be interesting.

I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed by mod--
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.

Brutal-Force said:
I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed--.
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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First off, nothing wrong with having all the latest and greatest phones out, it's by far the best way to find out which phone you personally like best. If I could afford it I'd do it too.
Second, evo is hardly the winner. All phones have their downfalls and can be considered better than others in their own right.
My nexus can be considered better than your evo for a number of reasons.
1. Google owns android. Nexus is google's baby. It is also a developers phone.when android releases froyo, gingerbread, etc. who is the first to get it? Me. Have fun waiting months for yours to update, or for some samsung owners, possibly never.
2. I'm hitting 60 fps, enjoy your 30 fps. You may have a bigger screen but can't fully enjoy it. Playing 3d games on the evo is atrocious.
3. Sprints 4g service had been highly touted this I know. But recent testing done by cnet, which I consider highly reliable and non bias; shows in NY sprints 4g getting 2-3mb whereas tmobiles hspa+ getting 5-6mb and it's not even considered true 4g lol but it doubled sprints. Now of course mileage will very.
Don't get me wrong, evo is a great phone. it's like having a portable theater in your pocket. It took me about three weeks of intense research comparing top phones on all carriers to reach a decision. I was hesitant to get the nexus considering how old it is, released in january. But it still using the same processor as many off the newer phones including evo, the 1ghz snapdragon. Yes your chip has been updated but mines still faster lol. And I like using a developer phone and getting updates before anyone else. Some may consider updates not that big of deal but froyo increased browser speed up to 30%, not something I'd want to wait months for to enjoy.
Oh and I have to say I love the trackball. Comes in handy for selecting text or other tight spots while browsing. I can also have it blink different colors: red for missed text, blue for missed call, green for voicemail, orange for email, purple for low battery, works for notifications as well.
It's nice having all this information without even turning on my phone.
This is officially by far the longest thing I've typed out on my nexus, got to love swype lol.

The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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magicriggs said:
The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy

I actually use the front facing camera a lot. I chat with other evo and iPhone 4 users. Given the ratio its pretty thin. And what's wrong with using the same processor. You want a better processor then go to Samsung galaxy s series. Good luck with the gps on there tho. Humming bird processor blows everyone out of the water. When I mean unlockable I mean the boot loader is not on lock down. And not everyone phone can flash sense, DX or D2 can't. Which are the newer phones comparable to the evo. You were seriously contemplating leaving Sprint to go with t-mobile cause of data speeds in a restricted area. Kinda of ironic cause the only thing that you sound to be proud of on the nexus is the processor speed. Processor speed don't mean **** if you don't got 3G or WiFi connection. Edge sucks on tmo and ill take Sprints 3G even tho I have the same processor as your sexi Nexi.

Scoobasteves: Evo is just as fps unlocked as nexus, that's old news.
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I was happy getting a 23% discount from --evil site removed by mod --
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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Are you in a bad mood man? Geez.
First I never tried driving their price down, I called about possibly porting my number and what the process is. The rep was the one asking questions and was being cool about wanting me to stay. So he offered me a discount.
And yes it's cheaper for me to go back to tmobile even with my 27% sprint discount. We have had a family plan with tmobile for 8 years, so adding my line back would only be $5 and an additional $30 for Internet.
Maybe I do have to much time in my hands, but I've never complained about prices or tried to brag about my phone being the best. I understand there are always new phones coming out and thankfully I have had the ability to try out a lot of them. I just like phones and the evo is among the best I have liked, but far from being a clear cut winner. I'm not one of those guys that think my phone is the best in the world and out down every other phone, i like to try out a lot of different phones if I'm able to, and enjoy it.
I guess I'll just enjoy my Evo and it's awesome screen size.

T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.

Jackk819 said:
T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine

2 year xda member and finally... reached my 100th post

Yeah I love the Evo probably one of the best phones I have used. I hear people complain that t-mo coverage is not that good in my area so that would be reason alone for me to stick with Sprint.

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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy
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Evo isn't restricted to 30fps anymore either
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine
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Never, they have free mobile to mobile any company, unlimited web and text for great price, sprint rocks
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I was not trying to badger the OP. As a matter of fact I am a former T-mo customer and was very happy with it.
Is the reason your plan a T-mo is cheaper because you are on a family plan there and not a family plan at Sprint? If thats the case then its apples to oranges.
To the Nexus Guy. It was a very good phone and I was seriously considering it when it finally became available on a plan rate. But that didn't happen till AFTER the Evo came out. I was on the phone with T-mo monthly to find out when that would happen. They could never give me an answer. So I took the plunge and got the EVO and never looked back.
T-mo's HSPA in my area is garbage. Seven guys I work (in Tampa) with have the Galaxy, and all of them claim 2-4Mbps. I get regularly 6.5Mbps. It may get better, but it isn't right now.
Processor? Seriously dude? if thats all you got with the Nexus, then you need to sit down. Developers phone? Seriously? Ever heard of Root? Oh yeah... all of T-mo's new phones are getting lock down. FPS? Spend more time on XDA preeze. Sprint unlocked it about 2 months ago. XDA did it even longer.
Nexus is a beautiful thing. But I am sorry, it is inferior to the EVO in about every possible way.

Kiosk in mall devoted to Evo??????

Sorry if this is old news, but I was in 2 malls this week doing some christmas shopping, and saw kiosks devoted ONLY to the Evo. There were about 6 Evos on display and 2 big evos like the iphones in the apple store. Funny thing was, one of them was setup right in-front of the apple store. Im sure that wasnt on accident! Go sprint!
PS, this was in Los Angeles Anyone else see these?

Is that the new EVO 4G Tablet on the side of the kiosk?

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Sorry if this is old news, but I was in 2 malls this week doing some christmas shopping, and saw kiosks devoted ONLY to the Evo. There were about 6 Evos on display and 2 big evos like the iphones in the apple store. Funny thing was, one of them was setup right in-front of the apple store. Im sure that wasnt on accident! Go sprint!
PS, this was in Los Angeles Anyone else see these?
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Saw these a couple months ago at Topanga Mall and Northridge Mall. It's one reason why I don't understand why the 42-inch nexus s is news worthy.

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Saw these a couple months ago at Topanga Mall and Northridge Mall. It's one reason why I don't understand why the 42-inch nexus s is news worthy.
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...because it just came out and is the headlining Android phone? Which brings me to my main point, does anyone think it's sad that the EVO is still Sprint's flagship phone? During the same time period:
a. Verizon had the Incredible, then the Droid X, Fascinate, Droid 2, and now the Droid Pro.
b. AT&T had the iPhone 4, Captivate, BB Torch, and now a slew of WP7 phones.
c. T-Mo had the MyTouch 3G slide, Vibrant, G2, MyTouch 4G, and now the Nexus S.
..and Sprint? The EVO and Epic. What's up with that? This isn't a which phone is better thing, just pointing out how much Sprint is lacking on the high end phone selection.

Since as a Premier member I can only upgrade every 12 monts, I'm cool with it.

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...because it just came out and is the headlining Android phone? Which brings me to my main point, does anyone think it's sad that the EVO is still Sprint's flagship phone? During the same time period:
a. Verizon had the Incredible, then the Droid X, Fascinate, Droid 2, and now the Droid Pro.
b. AT&T had the iPhone 4, Captivate, BB Torch, and now a slew of WP7 phones.
c. T-Mo had the MyTouch 3G slide, Vibrant, G2, MyTouch 4G, and now the Nexus S.
..and Sprint? The EVO and Epic. What's up with that? This isn't a which phone is better thing, just pointing out how much Sprint is lacking on the high end phone selection.
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Sprint's NEVER had the biggest phone selection. They offer a few fantastic phones and dirt cheap plans. Honestly though, I'd pick the Evo and the Epic over any Android phone out there right now though haha. The Nexus S would be the only one I'd consider, but not anywhere near enough to leave spring haha

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Sprint's NEVER had the biggest phone selection. They offer a few fantastic phones and dirt cheap plans. Honestly though, I'd pick the Evo and the Epic over any Android phone out there right now though haha. The Nexus S would be the only one I'd consider, but not anywhere near enough to leave spring haha
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T-Mo is arguably as cheap plus it's HSPA+ is free. With them you got the options of: the Vibrant (it's SGS variant but is "meh"), G2 (Powerful and slick slider with Vanilla Android), MyTouch 4G (which is just about the/one of the best spec'd phones out), or the Nexus S (arguably the best phone out right now).
You could argue that you'll just upgrade every year in June but how is that a good thing? I mean, look at that Shift 4G thread where people are arguing on whether the EVO is still worth getting? It's 6 months old, I would feel extremely limited and not to mention shafted if I needed to get a high end Sprint phone right now.
I just think that Sprint has to step up with some more phones.

Greenfieldan said:
Sprint's NEVER had the biggest phone selection. They offer a few fantastic phones and dirt cheap plans. Honestly though, I'd pick the Evo and the Epic over any Android phone out there right now though haha. The Nexus S would be the only one I'd consider, but not anywhere near enough to leave spring haha
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+1 the rest of the carriers have copious amounts of crap phones. I would rather have a few good phones to pick from than many, many, bad ones. JMO

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+1 the rest of the carriers have copious amounts of crap phones. I would rather have a few good phones to pick from than many, many, bad ones. JMO
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The thing is that they have both a bunch of bad ones and a bunch of good ones. Sprint has a few bad ones and a few good ones.

Award Tour said:
...because it just came out and is the headlining Android phone? Which brings me to my main point, does anyone think it's sad that the EVO is still Sprint's flagship phone? During the same time period:
a. Verizon had the Incredible, then the Droid X, Fascinate, Droid 2, and now the Droid Pro.
b. AT&T had the iPhone 4, Captivate, BB Torch, and now a slew of WP7 phones.
c. T-Mo had the MyTouch 3G slide, Vibrant, G2, MyTouch 4G, and now the Nexus S.
..and Sprint? The EVO and Epic. What's up with that? This isn't a which phone is better thing, just pointing out how much Sprint is lacking on the high end phone selection.
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Yeah, but the EVO is still a stronger performing phone than most of the phones you listed there. Aside from the Droid Pro and Nexus S there isn't one phone there that would replace my EVO. Those WP7 phones aren't even a consideration imo....

coldsweat said:
Yeah, but the EVO is still a stronger performing phone than most of the phones you listed there. Aside from the Droid Pro and Nexus S there isn't one phone there that would replace my EVO. Those WP7 phones aren't even a consideration imo....
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The Droid Pro is trash IMO. I'd consider the Nexus S, iPhone 4, G2, and maybe (but probably not) a WP7 phone. It's all matter of preference but the fact is that you got more worthwhile phones to judge and I wish that was the case with Sprint.

And what does all this crap have to do with the original question about the kiosk?

Agreed! I sell phones and I am yet to come by an android phone as reliable, fast, and attractive as the Evo. Sprint's got a lock on phone quality. All the other android phones you mentioned dont measure up...except the Nexus S.

Rainman95 said:
Agreed! I sell phones and I am yet to come by an android phone as reliable, fast, and attractive as the Evo. Sprint's got a lock on phone quality. All the other android phones you mentioned dont measure up...except the Nexus S.
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I sell more evos than any other phone, half the phones i sell are evos, the phone's over 6 months old, still crazy popular, and has hardware specs that other phones are just now finally beating. HTC did an awesome job with it, can't wait to see their next phone after the shift.

Award Tour said:
The Droid Pro is trash IMO. I'd consider the Nexus S, iPhone 4, G2, and maybe (but probably not) a WP7 phone. It's all matter of preference but the fact is that you got more worthwhile phones to judge and I wish that was the case with Sprint.
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Droid Pro is trash? It serves a purpose, small niche but still....
Iphone 4? Sorry but I like to use my phone as a phone, that means dropping calls is unacceptable.

Obviously the Evo is still top notch, notice you're still here

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Obviously the Evo is still top notch, notice you're still here
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Could it be that people are on contract and there was nothing better to choice from on Sprint other than the EVO? Yes, it could.

Award Tour said:
Could it be that people are on contract and there was nothing better to choice from on Sprint other than the EVO? Yes, it could.
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All carriers will help you with the cost of your ETF. Call and ask, it's Christmas season.

I rather walk in the sprint store and see a few great phones that will fit my needs... maybe like a front facing camera? Or a 4.3 inch screen? HDMI out? 10+mbps of data speed? A kick stand to kick back in the office and watch Hulu at full speed? Or play Need for Speed Shift while waiting for my girl? Maybe use Fring to video chat with her since she also has a front facing camera? Or how about getting on the XDA app and laugh at stupid posts people make regarding sprint and phones and trophys about tours..
Oh crap.. i just dropped my keys.. let me use my twin-led flashlight to find them...
I found them!!
Where was i?
I was jamming out... downloading music with Gtunes.. i can also use windows explorer/music/copy all... dragging and dropping the music files i need without connecting to itunes and syncing...
I just got a notification on my Sony Ericsson Live View... i can see my twitter replys without taking my evo out of my pocket...
Aww crap... i lost wifi signal at work, so did my co-workers... ill just turn on my Hotspot.. there.. me and my friends have full speed 4G signal on thier pcs via my internal router on my Evo...
Im gonna watch youtube... let me connect my HDMI enabled phone on my 42 inch tv...
Ahh... i love my phone..
Only from Sprint
Sent from my EVO 4G HD

apheonixboy said:
I rather walk in the sprint store and see a few great phones that will fit my needs... maybe like a front facing camera? Or a 4.3 inch screen? HDMI out? 10+mbps of data speed? A kick stand to kick back in the office and watch Hulu at full speed? Or play Need for Speed Shift while waiting for my girl? Maybe use Fring to video chat with her since she also has a front facing camera? Or how about getting on the XDA app and laugh at stupid posts people make regarding sprint and phones and trophys about tours..
Oh crap.. i just dropped my keys.. let me use my twin-led flashlight to find them...
I found them!!
Where was i?
I was jamming out... downloading music with Gtunes.. i can also use windows explorer/music/copy all... dragging and dropping the music files i need without connecting to itunes and syncing...
I just got a notification on my Sony Ericsson Live View... i can see my twitter replys without taking my evo out of my pocket...
Aww crap... i lost wifi signal at work, so did my co-workers... ill just turn on my Hotspot.. there.. me and my friends have full speed 4G signal on thier pcs via my internal router on my Evo...
Im gonna watch youtube... let me connect my HDMI enabled phone on my 42 inch tv...
Ahh... i love my phone..
Only from Sprint
Sent from my EVO 4G HD
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Awesome scenario haha but.... I want the HDMI outs

Question For TMobile Reps

I posted this over on Android Central hoping a TMO rep would chime in
but none did :
I had an NS for a week, didnt like it, and returned it to Best Buy.
They were supposed to reverse the two year contract.
I got my phone bill and it still had the $18 + $1.26 tax upgrade charge.
I called TMO to get that taken off and apparently they hadnt reversed
my contract. So the rep fixed that and took the upgrade charge off.
But the reason for this thread is that she said I didnt have 4G internet.
I got the unlimited Android plan when I got with my pre-buy G1.
I had 3000 minutes in Florida, unlimited web and 400 texts.
A few months later I was told I was eligible for the unlimited loyalty plan
which changed my 3000 Florida only minutes to unlimited in the US.
So after the call yesterday I started looking at the TMO website and
I dont see anywhere where they differentiate web packages between
3G and 4G.
The rep said I wouldnt be able to do video chat because I dont have 4G.
Is this true ?
Anyone know ?
The MT4G is noticeably faster than the N1, NS, and G2.
It made me wonder if what she said is just a line they are told to tell people.
Anyone know if thats possible to block 4G to customers ?
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I am in the Tampa area that has the HSPA+/4G.
(mods this is about the MT4G)

going_home said:
I posted this over on Android Central hoping a TMO rep would chime in
but none did :
I am in the Tampa area that has the HSPA+/4G.
(mods this is about the MT4G)
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As far as I know if your area has 4g and your phone is capable... you should get 4g. When I worked there about three years ago they couldnt block 3g. They can throttle your data usage though.

Great question, however there is no need to change web packages at this time if you are able to keep your grandfathered services. The term "4G Web" is just marketing and does nothing/provides no extra benefit to have the newer features.

Sheldonjace said:
Great question, however there is no need to change web packages at this time if you are able to keep your grandfathered services. The term "4G Web" is just marketing and does nothing/provides no extra benefit to have the newer features.
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Ok thats what I was trying to find out.
I figured they are trained to try and get rid of the older cheaper plans.
The rep said I wouldnt be able to use the video chat if I didnt upgrade my plan to 4G.
My current plan is $24.99 for unlimited data and 400 texts.
She said that plan was not 4g and I would need the 4G package at $30.00 plus
$5.99 for unlimited texts = $35.99. So $11.00 plus tax more.
How can I make sure I already have the HSPA+/4G ?
The phone is much faster than the Nexus One, G2, or Nexus S.

There is no difference between the packages though accept that the regular web wont work unless customer service does something on their end to make it work. I am a T-Mobile RSA and when the MyTouch 4G first launched they were not requiring us in the system to change the web on upgrades so most of the time we didn't then 24 hours later customers where calling us saying their web wasn't working and we figured out it was because we weren't changing the plans. But I have seen those plans like the 24.99 plans work if a customers call and complain correctly lol. But there is no speed difference between the plans it is all the same data speed its a matter of how the phone handles it.

I work alongside Tmobile [read: RadioShack employee], and I'm also in the Tampa Bay area [Burg side]. I can tell you for a fact your internet doesn't have to be a 4g plan. But that being said, in Tmo's systems all the new customers that sign up for web are being placed on a "4g" data plan, as opposed to just "data" as it in the past was called. This may be ramping up to a No FFC switch to be flipped, but at the moment, no complaints from older customers just SIM swapping (from a previous Android). PM for irl contact if you'd like, I can hook you up with my corporate reps info, [or atleast be a middle man between you].
Edit in further reading of the T-Mo rep's post above, we too have had a few cases of that, but only from people coming from what used to be deemed 'phone first' web. Anyone coming from G1, Cliq [xt], MyTouch [3g/Slide], etc haven't had any problem. [I myself included.] Maybe there is a larger issue here depending on what T-Mo serverside [or phone interpretation side] are reading for the plan(s) [as you mentioned.]

The new web features are called 4g, but they replace the old ones. In other words, there is no separate 4g and 3g data features. Some reps are just stupid. As long as you have a web feature that works for your phone, you can get whatever speeds are available in your area.
Sent from my HTC Glacier

When doing any upgrades in a store, the web feature has to be taken off and the required web feature has to be added which is $30. Unless you go with one of the promo plans out right now, which have the data at $20.

deviusdragger said:
When doing any upgrades in a store, the web feature has to be taken off and the required web feature has to be added which is $30. Unless you go with one of the promo plans out right now, which have the data at $20.
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Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
Sent from my HTC Glacier

stoneyjonez said:
Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
Sent from my HTC Glacier
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or you can always call retention =O

Nail on the head
cnflct said:
or you can always call retention =O
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i would so trade you my myt4g for your NS all because of its GPU

The GPU war again huh? last we need is kids fighting over GPU now in mobile world lol seen that enough in PC world. BTW don't be fooled SGX540 just wins over Adreno 205 by very small margin as Galaxy S in this arena graphic comes superior in threading and displaying due to Super AMOLED. But if you check carefully due to superior hardware spec (higher ram, 2nd gen proc) it renders faster and smoother than NS. Trust me I know before I bought MT4G I did extended research on every device. DHD is the only one that came close but head to head with MT4G it didn't win in benchmark and only reason I picked it due to bigger screen which I miss since HD2.

MrHKM said:
The GPU war again huh? last we need is kids fighting over GPU now in mobile world lol seen that enough in PC world. BTW don't be fooled SGX540 just wins over Adreno 205 by very small margin as Galaxy S in this arena graphic comes superior in threading and displaying due to Super AMOLED. But if you check carefully due to superior hardware spec (higher ram, 2nd gen proc) it renders faster and smoother than NS. Trust me I know before I bought MT4G I did extended research on every device. DHD is the only one that came close but head to head with MT4G it didn't win in benchmark and only reason I picked it due to bigger screen which I miss since HD2.
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Yeah i did my research as well. watch a sh*t load of review, etc I just like the form factor of the nexus s and its one strip of glass so i wouldnt have to worry about light leaking, hard buttons creaking, and with the SAMOLED i dont care much for but i like the extra 2" the GPU isnt too much better but it does run PSX alittle better. also if this phone is dropped it would probably dent lol cause the metal and its supper heavy (i actually like the heavy part) i just wish HTC didnt make it glass, hard buttons, then another plastic part. it just makes it complecated and problems xD i have OCD about phone stuff lol. when i get this phone replaced and get one with a good screen ill be happy then (if i dont get damn creaky buttons) idk if i would wanna go with samsung anyway.. after the behold 2 they fvcked over everyone with that phone.. but google has the NS backed up thats why i thought about it.

I learned long ago about not buying from Samsung as they truly lack the oversight, hence why HTC excels in this field? they are only focused in dominating the mobile field which they have successfully done so and I can say all my device will be HTC based until something else comes along. But thats very hard when 9/10 device that do make in is HTC based lol so they must be doing something right.
Ya I wasn't happy with the display, creaking button and ffc problems with MT4G, I just found it very odd the number of reported was so high as it makes you wonder how it even got passed QC in first place, they must have monkeys lol checking it. My display turn out good along with the button but the FFC is off center as its tilted on the right as its 0.3mp cam I don't care much as I doubt I will ever use it.

Looking at possibly coming over to tmobile to use the 4g network, since I tether with the mytouch 4g.
All plans unlimited text and data
Considering the "no contract plans"
500min @ $59.99 plus tax
1000min @$69.99 plus tax
OR
Sign a two year contract to get another phone, possibly a mytouch 4g for $99 costco or the up coming sale.
1500min @ $79.99 POSSIBLE discount of 15% =$68 plus tax
Ohio state discount for employees or whatever.....Over the phone with a customer rep I was told I just had to provide a valid email. If I give them my osu email this should work although I'm not an employee of the university. Would trade the new mytouch 4g for a nexus s and keep it as a back up. Or just wait for newer 4g phones to come out and purchase one of those.
Question pertains to being able to set up the OSU email on the account, would it work just by giving CS the email? Anyway to set up a discount on the "no contract plans" even more plan

MrHKM said:
I learned long ago about not buying from Samsung as they truly lack the oversight, hence why HTC excels in this field? they are only focused in dominating the mobile field which they have successfully done so and I can say all my device will be HTC based until something else comes along. But thats very hard when 9/10 device that do make in is HTC based lol so they must be doing something right.
Ya I wasn't happy with the display, creaking button and ffc problems with MT4G, I just found it very odd the number of reported was so high as it makes you wonder how it even got passed QC in first place, they must have monkeys lol checking it. My display turn out good along with the button but the FFC is off center as its tilted on the right as its 0.3mp cam I don't care much as I doubt I will ever use it.
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Yeah I can agree with you on that. HTC has been my number one device but after the mytouch side and now this... The G1 had better buttons than this. And didn't have light leaking through. Its sad the g1 having better build quality. And evey other phone coming out with a ffc has a 1.3 mp I know mp isn't the thing that counts but 0.3? Lol. I don't think monkeys would've even let it pass haha. Htc messed up the nexis one screen as well.. I think they do perfect on every phone then mess up the stupidest thing that could've been avoided. I don't get it. Its like they don't test their own devices. If it wasn't for the hard buttons and messed ffc and crap screen lol. Those are easy fixes for them to see I'm sure.
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stoneyjonez said:
Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
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Thats what I did, bought mine on Craigslist after I returned the NS to Best Buy.
I just dont trust what the rep told me on the phone and I'd like to know
for sure if I actually have HSPA+ or not.

You Have A MyTouch 4G ? You Have 4G !
Ok guys, went to my local TMO company store today in search of an answer
to the question "do I have to upgrade my plan in order to get
HSPA+/4G" .
The answer is no, the original prebuy G1 Android plan gets 4G and there
is no way for TMO to block 4G since technically its 3.5something G anyways.
I went to settings/about phone/network while I was in the store and it said
HSDPA on the phone.
The rep in the store agreed that what the rep told me on the phone was bogus.

Nexus S free today at best buy

Not sure if anyone is interested but the nexus s for at&t, sprint, and t mobile is free today only on 2 year contract at best buy.
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viper2g1 said:
Not sure if anyone is interested but the nexus s for at&t, sprint, and t mobile is free today only on 2 year contract at best buy.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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Also for upgrades, I was really tempted but I rather wait for Nexus 3 or what ever Nokia and MS brings to the table.

josemedina1983 said:
Also for upgrades, I was really tempted but I rather wait for Nexus 3 or what ever Nokia and MS brings to the table.
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I am also really tempted but kinda wanna wait till the Nexus 3 as well. Very tempting though...

Problem I have, is that a new contract costs 20 bucks more a month for the same plan.over 2 years, that's 480 bucks.its only worth it if I can keep the same plan.

mrbkkt1 said:
Problem I have, is that a new contract costs 20 bucks more a month for the same plan.over 2 years, that's 480 bucks.its only worth it if I can keep the same plan.
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Heh, this is why I haven't signed a new contract in years. They'd force me to a plan that is $20-$25 a month more expensive (plus they don't even have unlimited data any more. I'm grandfathered in on unlimited). Over the course of a contract, it's cheaper to buy a phone out right then pay the high contract price and get even a completely "free" phone.

yawn..
This is how successful the Nexus S was: now they're giving them away. If it came cheap without a contract, I'd go pick one up. Nope, still rather have my N1.

adunski said:
yawn..
This is how successful the Nexus S was: now they're giving them away. If it came cheap without a contract, I'd go pick one up. Nope, still rather have my N1.
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Tell you the truth I think the N1 was a flop for Google they wanted to move units like the Iphone and have their own Web store that idea went down the drain. they didn't know how to market the Nexus One to normal consumers after few months they wanted to sell it on mobile stores for people to see and test that never happen. finally it slowly faded away to just be a developer phone, I think this time Google wanted a company like best buy to do the whole process and have exclusivity if Goole would of thought of this we would still see the Nexus One being sold for free etc etc.

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Tell you the truth I think the N1 was a flop for Google they wanted to move units like the Iphone and have their own Web store that idea went down the drain. they didn't know how to market the Nexus One to normal consumers after few months they wanted to sell it on mobile stores for people to see and test that never happen. finally it slowly faded away to just be a developer phone, I think this time Google wanted a company like best buy to do the whole process and have exclusivity if Goole would of thought of this we would still see the Nexus One being sold for free etc etc.
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I think you're exactly right. The experiment that was the N1 was, in essence, a failure. Google may be big, but they don't have the computing experience Apple has. Apple users were already wishing for an iPhone product; but no one was hoping Google would release a phone. But this is what makes the N1 such a gem: it's been a completely underground developer's dream. The NS found itself in an odd place and was really to the N1 as the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G.

Yeah. The Nexus One is unknown to the common folk.
I'll get asked what phone I have and tell them a Nexus One. The response is always, with out fail, "A Nexus what?"
I kind of like having a phone no one else really has though.

adunski said:
I think you're exactly right. The experiment that was the N1 was, in essence, a failure. Google may be big, but they don't have the computing experience Apple has. Apple users were already wishing for an iPhone product; but no one was hoping Google would release a phone. But this is what makes the N1 such a gem: it's been a completely underground developer's dream. The NS found itself in an odd place and was really to the N1 as the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G.
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Difference between google and apple is google is web base company people don't think of them as a software company for the same reason people had trouble knowing about android until verizon put the Droid stamp on. Googles marketing is too geeky for normal consumers 1ghz what? 2 speakers for noise cancellation what? Apples marketing twice as fast as your 3gs, Better graphics for Gaming, our top of the line speaker for calls period.

mrbkkt1 said:
Problem I have, is that a new contract costs 20 bucks more a month for the same plan.over 2 years, that's 480 bucks.its only worth it if I can keep the same plan.
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Yup, the math never works out. If you can actually keep a phone for two years and buy it without a contract you usually break even before two years, at least I did with my N1 although I bought a pair of those off Craig's List for $350 each.

GldRush98 said:
Yeah. The Nexus One is unknown to the common folk.
I'll get asked what phone I have and tell them a Nexus One. The response is always, with out fail, "A Nexus what?"
I kind of like having a phone no one else really has though.
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When I tell them that I have a Nexus One, they ask "Is that a droid phone?" I have to admit that most of the common folk associate the Motorola Droid commercials with Android phones. Those were pretty cool I must admit, but I'd never go with an NS over my N1. May be the TMo Hercules when it comes out, but nothing else has been enough of a jump in technology to make me move.

adunski said:
I think you're exactly right. The experiment that was the N1 was, in essence, a failure. Google may be big, but they don't have the computing experience Apple has. Apple users were already wishing for an iPhone product; but no one was hoping Google would release a phone. But this is what makes the N1 such a gem: it's been a completely underground developer's dream. The NS found itself in an odd place and was really to the N1 as the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G.
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I am not sure I completely agree with this. To me, the NS was more of a sidestep than an actual upgrade over the N1. Sure, it had a bit faster processor and more flash, but there was no micro-sdcard slot and no notification led. I think they traded off some important features and put different ones in (and NFC implementation isn't widespread enough for me to consider it a feature just yet). Both phones are great, but I think I would still prefer my N1 over an NS.
And while the original thought behind the N1 and the webstore might've fallen short of what google expected, the N1 itself was considered a success by google (although the webstore was considered a failure). Why? Because they wanted to present to the world what phones could be capable of. 1GHz processors, 512MB of RAM... Essentially, they wanted to kickstart the "superphone" craze, which as you can now tell, was extremely successful. I mean, N1s are over 18 months old, but they still hold their own. Sure there are fancier and faster phones out there, but in a fast-paced enviornment like smartphones, it is pretty impressive that people are still considering buying an 18+ month old phone (and are extremely happy when they get it).
I do think the NS was an attempt at kickstarting the NFC (and to make the phone more retail/consumer friendly vs more of a niche/developer phone that the N1 was). I am hoping the N3 will be another push for new hardware and that it will be a true upgrade (in every sense - I am really hoping for another cardock and trackball) instead of a partial upgrade in some areas, but downgrades in others...

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I am not sure I completely agree with this. To me, the NS was more of a sidestep than an actual upgrade over the N1. Sure, it had a bit faster processor and more flash, but there was no micro-sdcard slot and no notification led. I think they traded off some important features and put different ones in (and NFC implementation isn't widespread enough for me to consider it a feature just yet). Both phones are great, but I think I would still prefer my N1 over an NS.
And while the original thought behind the N1 and the webstore might've fallen short of what google expected, the N1 itself was considered a success by google (although the webstore was considered a failure). Why? Because they wanted to present to the world what phones could be capable of. 1GHz processors, 512MB of RAM... Essentially, they wanted to kickstart the "superphone" craze, which as you can now tell, was extremely successful. I mean, N1s are over 18 months old, but they still hold their own. Sure there are fancier and faster phones out there, but in a fast-paced enviornment like smartphones, it is pretty impressive that people are still considering buying an 18+ month old phone (and are extremely happy when they get it).
I do think the NS was an attempt at kickstarting the NFC (and to make the phone more retail/consumer friendly vs more of a niche/developer phone that the N1 was). I am hoping the N3 will be another push for new hardware and that it will be a true upgrade (in every sense - I am really hoping for another cardock and trackball) instead of a partial upgrade in some areas, but downgrades in others...
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I own both the NS & N1 and I use the NS much more than the N1 for 2 reasons:
1) NS has a much brighter, larger, responsive screen
2) NS has more storage space (I'm aware of simple2ext)
As far as NFC is concerned, sure it's not widespread but that doesn't matter. You can very cheaply purchase your own NFC tags and use this app NFC Task Launcher developed by an XDA member to basically do any function (it has Tasker support). I have a tag setup on my work desk that turns the phones screen off when I set it down. People put them in their cars as well. Very, very handy.
Not having notification LED sucks terribly though and I hope the iPhone 5 has one so Android OEMs will start adding them again..

It all depends on the user. Depending on what you use the phone for they could either be very similar or it could be considered a huge improvement.

I totally agree. Each user is different. My thoughts were my personal opinion. For me, it is necessary to have an sdcard slot so I can have my 32GB micro-sdcard installed (since mine is consistently sitting at 2GB or less freespace). I just wish that the NS was a total upgrade over the N1 rather than a partial one. I am really hoping that the N3 will quench my thirst for a new Nexus device.
I didn't realize all the stuff you can do with the NFC tags, so I will definitely be looking forward to that in a future phone.

crachel said:
As far as NFC is concerned, sure it's not widespread but that doesn't matter. You can very cheaply purchase your own NFC tags and use this app NFC Task Launcher developed by an XDA member to basically do any function (it has Tasker support). I have a tag setup on my work desk that turns the phones screen off when I set it down. People put them in their cars as well. Very, very handy.
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That is an AWESOME use of NFC. I always thought it was just a gimmick, but the ability to place tags in places like that is pretty cool. Place one in the bosses office so that tasker puts your phone on vibrate when you walk in!