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Date: Monday May 24th, 2010
Time: From 9:00 am to 4:00 pm (EST)
Questions? pm me.
Thanks and hope to see you then.
This thread will remain closed until the specified time.
First of all, I wanted to welcome all of you and thank you for taking the time to put all the remaining issues to rest. As with anything on this site, please be courteous to others, don't flame, don't curse, and try to make your comments as meaningful as possible (in other words, don't troll )
This is a floor for discussion and debate, so whoever feels like speaking up, please do so. I believe that the first order of business is the fixxxer issue. Cbarlan (aka Papa_Smurf) already put me up to speed on that issue but I would like to have some more input from you all.
The only thing i will add to this is im tired of being accused and followed around here because im new, same goes for other newbies as well. This smixxxer guy is obviously a banned member and keeps signing up to stir up trouble. I know i accused neb of being him and i talked to a few members who told me it was not, so for that i humbly apologize. I firmly believe once someone is banned from here, they should stay banned. Id just like to see people start getting along more. In my mind fixxxer is talked about than the hero itself, he's not here anymore and the subject needs to end already.
Thats all id like to add to this as i have to go.
For me, personally, most of what I had issue with has been resolved, both through a bit more leniency from the mods (thanks you guys!), and the creation of the off-topic thread for us to blow off steam in.
Re: fixxer/nebs situation, I am prolly too biased on this to give much of an objective opinion. That being said, if nebs and fixxer are both willing to cool the vitriol a bit, I see no reason to keep the bans up. Others may feel differently, but that is where I stand.
Ban his IP. /End Game
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I'll edit this by saying I know the IP thing is useless. Not much you can do other than watch out for the trolls.
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Ban his IP. /End Game
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which his? smixxer?
I think it's just unfortunate there are such easy ways to get around a ban.
FYI and FWIW- I have not created any identities on this site other than this one and phenicks.
I am done with fixxxer even though he is obviously still here. I hope he can begin to grow up a little and stop fueling "the fire".
Without the ability to reliably ban someone from simply making a new login ID I would like to suggest the following as food for thought:
To help cut down on banned members coming right back to start more crap:
-2 to 4 week period before new members can post AND/OR
-2 to 4 week post (not read) restriction to general/q&a sections for new members
To help cut down on redundant and misplaced threads by noobs:
-20/30 post minimum before new members can make a new thread
To help clarify who is actually a senior member:
-500 posts to earn senior member status
(It can be confusing for a noob who to direct questions to, also I have seen as high as 32 posts/day counts.. senior member in 3-4 days?)
-neb
PS.
Thank you for the off topic lounge, that one is a home-run
And thank you to Egz and Ryan and other mods for your involvement lately. I for one am delighted to see the member side of you guys rather than just the moderator side.
nebenezer said:
I think it's just unfortunate there are such easy ways to get around a ban.
FYI and FWIW- I have not created any identities on this site other than this one and phenicks.
I am done with fixxxer even though he is obviously still here. I hope he can begin to grow up a little and stop fueling "the fire".
Without the ability to reliably ban someone from simply making a new login ID I would like to suggest the following as food for thought:
To help cut down on banned members coming right back to start more crap:
-2 to 4 week period before new members can post AND/OR
-2 to 4 week post (not read) restriction to general/q&a sections for new members
To help cut down on redundant and misplaced threads by noobs:
-20/30 post minimum before new members can make a new thread
To help clarify who is actually a senior member:
-500 posts to earn senior member status
(It can be confusing for a noob who to direct questions to, also I have seen as high as 32 posts/day counts.. senior member in 3-4 days?)
-neb
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Neb buddy, are you refering to me?
I agree completely here. On several forums I have been on in the past there is a minimum reply number to current posts before you can start a new thread. This would stop the "Im new and don't wanna read" and also would prevent people from being banned and being able to go start a new account and have just as much going as they did before.
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Neb buddy, are you refering to me?
I agree completely here. On several forums I have been on in the past there is a minimum reply number to current posts before you can start a new thread. This would stop the "Im new and don't wanna read" and also would prevent people from being banned and being able to go start a new account and have just as much going as they did before.
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^WORST-OFFENDER-EVER
Hahaha, J/K of course
Also, I think its great that this place is such a fantastic resource and I think it's great that many of the senior members have the patience to answer questions that come in the form of brand new threads in the wrong sections.
I'd like to see people (senior members) get more comfortable with prefacing their responses to these threads with "This should have gone <here>". I am not suggesting we don't answer these questions, I would just like to see some diligence guiding new people to post in the appropriate section. Lots of these kinds of threads get answered and it's not until half way down the page until someone acknowledges the thread was posted is in the wrong section. Not that its a heinous offense or anything but I think most would agree new threads in the wrong sections are inconvenient and happen A LOT.
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For me, personally, most of what I had issue with has been resolved, both through a bit more leniency from the mods (thanks you guys!), and the creation of the off-topic thread for us to blow off steam in.
Re: fixxer/nebs situation, I am prolly too biased on this to give much of an objective opinion. That being said, if nebs and fixxer are both willing to cool the vitriol a bit, I see no reason to keep the bans up. Others may feel differently, but that is where I stand.
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I believe the creation of the off subject lounge and leniency of the mods have made a huge difference. With that being said I believe that being respectful by both mods and users will greatly help. Yeah I know things get out of hand at times and that the mods get tired of hearing a million reports on this section. But commingle in here with an iron fist and then trying to sweep it under the rug hoping it will go away will never work. Getting to the root of the issue is a lot more effective and trying to resolve the problem out weighs bannings. I've said this in the past banning is almost a joke. Anyone can make a sock puppet account and keep causing problems. So what doea is solve.
To the users who r act like natzis...the mods will decide if a subject goes into a different section. Either contribute to the thread or shut up. I'm so tired of someone ask a question or post a thread and watch the wave of senior members (a select few all the time) say this should go to this section. Is it that hard to answer the question or post a link to the answer (this goes for the whole use the search button also). Sometimes when u search for an answer there r so many results and it shows all result including from first day forum started and some of those are way out of date and a noob isn't as experienced enough to sort through what newer and what's older.
nebenezer said:
I think it's just unfortunate there are such easy ways to get around a ban.
FYI and FWIW- I have not created any identities on this site other than this one and phenicks.
I am done with fixxxer even though he is obviously still here. I hope he can begin to grow up a little and stop fueling "the fire".
Without the ability to reliably ban someone from simply making a new login ID I would like to suggest the following as food for thought:
To help cut down on banned members coming right back to start more crap:
-2 to 4 week period before new members can post AND/OR
-2 to 4 week post (not read) restriction to general/q&a sections for new members
To help cut down on redundant and misplaced threads by noobs:
-20/30 post minimum before new members can make a new thread
To help clarify who is actually a senior member:
-500 posts to earn senior member status
(It can be confusing for a noob who to direct questions to, also I have seen as high as 32 posts/day counts.. senior member in 3-4 days?)
-neb
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Hey neb,
For once, welcome back! I am glad that you guys are putting this whole thing behind. For the last few days, I have felt that things have really began to calm down in here (particularly because we don't see that many reported posts/threads from here anymore). I will take your suggestions to the site admin and the other mods and see what they think. Some of them can be a bit hard to implement (particularly the first two), but the other ones, I couldn't agree more (especially on the Senior Member threshold, I agree that 100 posts is just way too little). In fact, I invited the other mods and admin over here as well, so they might up in during the day as well. This thread is guaranteed to have exposure to everyone that needs to see it
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To the users who r act like natzis...the mods will decide if a subject goes into a different section. Either contribute to the thread or shut up. I'm so tired of someone ask a question or post a thread and watch the wave of senior members (a select few all the time) say this should go to this section. Is it that hard to answer the question or post a link to the answer (this goes for the whole use the search button also). Sometimes when u search for an answer there r so many results and it shows all result including from first day forum started and some of those are way out of date and a noob isn't as experienced enough to sort through what newer and what's older.
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Agreed that searching can easily and often be a fruitless PITA.
As far as the response.. "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" (right?, lol)
I am not one to bust someones head for posting in the wrong section. I will sooner ignore the question.
I don't see any harm in telling someone they have posted in the wrong section but I think it would be great to see those types of comments accompanied by some sort of helpful reply.
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Hey neb,
For once, welcome back!
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Thanks Egz, Nice to meet ya!
egzthunder1 said:
Hey neb,
For once, welcome back! I am glad that you guys are putting this whole thing behind. For the last few days, I have felt that things have really began to calm down in here (particularly because we don't see that many reported posts/threads from here anymore). I will take your suggestions to the site admin and the other mods and see what they think. Some of them can be a bit hard to implement (particularly the first two), but the other ones, I couldn't agree more (especially on the Senior Member threshold, I agree that 100 posts is just way too little). In fact, I invited the other mods and admin over here as well, so they might up in during the day as well. This thread is guaranteed to have exposure to everyone that needs to see it
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Ya know, I woud like to see guys from other devices in here as well. These changes being propsed aren't just relevant to CDMA Hero's. Post Count and status should effect the whole site.
To make XDA better as a whole and to maintain it's "Developers" status so to speak, you have to quiet the people asking basic questions some times.
Personally I am not good at training, I don't want to have to teach someone how to dial there phone
egzthunder1 said:
Hey neb,
For once, welcome back! I am glad that you guys are putting this whole thing behind. For the last few days, I have felt that things have really began to calm down in here (particularly because we don't see that many reported posts/threads from here anymore). I will take your suggestions to the site admin and the other mods and see what they think. Some of them can be a bit hard to implement (particularly the first two), but the other ones, I couldn't agree more (especially on the Senior Member threshold, I agree that 100 posts is just way too little). In fact, I invited the other mods and admin over here as well, so they might up in during the day as well. This thread is guaranteed to have exposure to everyone that needs to see it
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yeah, it took me no time at all to hit senior member status, and I don't post nearly as often as some (some of you may have a hard time believing this, but i'm still averaging less than a post a day. I like to think mine are just....memorable ). Though it might add more work, it might be useful to have 3 membership types instead of 2. I mean, I can TOTALLY see needing to be around for a while before you get your senior badge, I don't think it is necessary to make a dude wait till he has 500 posts to put up a link, you know what I mean?
EDIT: w00t! I lied! I just hit avg 1.05 posts per day!
Papa Smurf151 said:
To the users who r act like natzis...the mods will decide if a subject goes into a different section. Either contribute to the thread or shut up. I'm so tired of someone ask a question or post a thread and watch the wave of senior members (a select few all the time) say this should go to this section. Is it that hard to answer the question or post a link to the answer (this goes for the whole use the search button also). Sometimes when u search for an answer there r so many results and it shows all result including from first day forum started and some of those are way out of date and a noob isn't as experienced enough to sort through what newer and what's older.
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Hey cb, I mean Papa
Love the new avatar... I guess now I understand why you wanted your name changed . Moving threads for us is a bit of a nuisance, but it has to be done so that important sub forums don't get flooded by a bunch of "asking for help" or "what do you guys think its better x or y" threads, none of which are exclusive to noobs, but some seniors as well.
The way I usually handle (or at least I used to handle when I was a regular member) the out of place threads, was normally to direct towards a solution and used the "Report" icon on the thread/post to get a mod to either move it or delete it, if needed be. People who just flat out burst into flaming or insulting the member asking the question are simply out of place and should not do that. However, I have learned over the years that many people on the internet (not only here) would much rather write a long rant on how someone should google before asking questions, than to simply say "here is the link" and pressing the report button saying "please move to x y z section"... I guess it is a culture thing...
nebenezer said:
Agreed that searching can easily and often be a fruitless PITA.
As far as the response.. "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" (right?, lol)
I am not one to bust someones head for posting in the wrong section. I will sooner ignore the question.
I don't see any harm in telling someone they have posted in the wrong section but I think it would be great to see those types of comments accompanied by some sort of helpful reply.
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I can agree with that but there are a select few that r like section police. Every thread that's in the wrong section they r there to let them know and that's all they contribute. I find myself reading them say that going douche just answer the question or ignore it. That's just ne though
I like LMGTFY, it gets the point across, but is helpful at the same time. Some folks get offended, but most get the point and say thanks.
edit: not to derail the thread, but a lot of people don't know HOW to search properly. It ain't enough to just plug a bunch of words in the text box and hit the button. A lot of us grew up in the pregooglenet dark ages, when searching wasn't nearly as easy, and have skills that these young whippersnappers do not posess.
tejasrichard said:
yeah, it took me no time at all to hit senior member status, and I don't post nearly as often as some (some of you may have a hard time believing this, but i'm still averaging less than a post a day. I like to think mine are just....memorable ). Though it might add more work, it might be useful to have 3 membership types instead of 2. I mean, I can TOTALLY see needing to be around for a while before you get your senior badge, I don't think it is necessary to make a dude wait till he has 500 posts to put up a link, you know what I mean?
EDIT: w00t! I lied! I just hit avg 1.05 posts per day!
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The fact that your post are memorable rather than "fillers" is a good thing (I wish more people would do that)
We have 3 levels of membership:
Junior member (up to 10 or 30 posts, I cannot remember this one)
Member (up to 100 posts)
Senior member (anything over 100 posts)
I will ask the admin about moving senior and junior levels up, because I honestly think that those are the important ones.
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The fact that your post are memorable rather than "fillers" is a good thing (I wish more people would do that)
We have 3 levels of membership:
Junior member (up to 10 or 30 posts, I cannot remember this one)
Member (up to 100 posts)
Senior member (anything over 100 posts)
I will ask the admin about moving senior and junior levels up, because I honestly think that those are the important ones.
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Well slap me silly! I never noticed the middle designation at all.
Hi there,
Does anyone have any info as to when dft will release there update. I have been waiting (like all of us) for a while now with no updates from the team.
W3X
w3x said:
Hi there,
Does anyone have any info as to when dft will release there update. I have been waiting (like all of us) for a while now with no updates from the team.
W3X
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Uh...hello? Why are you asking this question (as if it hasn't been asked millions of time in other threads)? No one's apparently heard from DFT on their release, otherwise the info would be posted all over the forum! There are at least 3 releases of out there for you to update to NoDo.
Firstly this thread has a misleading topic/title. It reads as a statement when in fact its a question (which will likely annoy a lot of people).
Secondly this thread has no development related content or purpose.
I would suggest the thread is moved to the Q&A sub-forum and re-titled to better reflect the actual content of the thread.
As per my guess they are sold out to microsoft and will no longer be available to us for free updates. they got reward for their hard work. what we could have possibly given them, thanks buttons, beers, a few praising sentences. those can not run anyones' kitchen. still we are thankful for their great work.
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it surely annoyed me.
please all stop making such topics. only option we have is to wait.
sweetdoc said:
As per my guess they are sold out to microsoft and will no longer be available to us for free updates. they got reward for their hard work. what we could have possibly given them, thanks buttons, beers, a few praising sentences. those can not run anyones' kitchen. still we are thankful for their great work.
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I wish I had a dollar for every time I have read on this forum someone writing that they think DFT has sold out to Microsoft, and how many times DFT has come through. I think people tend to forget that the members of DFT have to work at jobs just like you and me to keep the wolf away from the door. It is not like the people on the team have 24 hours a day to work on these devices just for our benefit.
As I work on the public relations side of the ITC industry I know too that companies like HTC and Microsoft are making it harder to work with these devices and get access to things like needed code that is required to work the wonders that DFT creates for us.
People really should have a few more facts before they make blanket statements to the effect that DFT has sold out to Microsoft or some other company.
DFT updates will come out when everything falls into place. Also we should keep in mind that the HTC HD2 is not the only device that DFT works on.
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Firstly this thread has a misleading topic/title. It reads as a statement when in fact its a question (which will likely annoy a lot of people).
Secondly this thread has no development related content or purpose.
I would suggest the thread is moved to the Q&A sub-forum and re-titled to better reflect the actual content of the thread.
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Totally agree!! Misleading title is annoying
k guys,
thread closed
Since the mods have seen fit to lock all three threads relating to Honeycomb 3.2's launch tomorrow, I'm starting somewhere else that we can discuss this important news.
Perhaps the mods might consider merging threads rather than locking them, in future (especially when there was only a 4 minute difference in start time on the first two threads -- there's every chance that when the second thread poster started typing his post, the other one didn't exist yet.)
To get folks up to speed, here are the locked threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188621
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188627
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188754
Important info from these:
* HC 3.2 will be out for the Transformer in at least some markets tomorrow
* According to ComputerWorld, writing to SD isn't possible in HC 3.2. Hopefully this is specific to the Xoom, as this is a feature I use VERY regularly, and I'll be furious if it is removed.
the mod still referenced the whole SEARCH BEFORE POSTING RULE...
</removed tacky non-productive, useless comment>
I am amazed at how well Asus is at getting updates out. Granted my only previous experience in Android was with Samsung (Captivate) which is awesome in the Dev world (XDA devs really do awesome stuff on the Cappy), but Samsung and updates (whether it's their fault or not) have not been a good experience... plus I don't think they even do OTAs.
Asus has my attention, I'll keep an eye on what they continue to offer.
That second point really concerns me and I hope it's a generalisation.
Right now, I have Titanium Backup backing up to /Removable/MicroSD/TitaniumBackup. I do this primarily to keep the backups safe in the event I have to NVFlash the device and lose the contents of /mnt/sdcard (this has happened to me already!)
i bet we will see custom 3.2 from some of the well knowns within hours of it dropping. In other words, by the time Im awake, 3.2 will be an CWM update
Asus and the Dev's here are doing GREAT!
codeles said:
1 Post was posted at 11:40, the next at 11:44, the mod still referenced the whole SEARCH BEFORE POSTING RULE... I guess that's more of a check your brain at the internet thing... <wondering if this will get flagged>
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As I said, there was four minutes between threads. There's every chance that the second poster checked and there was no thread, then he spent 4+ minutes typing his own post.
But either way, there's no reason to lock a thread (still leaving a separate, duplicate thread which everybody sees and reads, but then can't reply to), rather than simply merging the two threads.
And it seems even more baffling to lock two threads as dupes, link to the supposed original, and then lock that too without any reason why, leaving people with nowhere to discuss what's one of the most important pieces of Transformer news in weeks...
I REALLY hope that the second point there is not true. I would not be as closed minded to say that it is not possible.....we just have to unlock it to make it possible.
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And it seems even more baffling to lock two threads as dupes, link to the supposed original, and then lock that too without any reason why, leaving people with nowhere to discuss what's one of the most important pieces of Transformer news in weeks...
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I'm going to hope that at least 1 lock was an accident. That could happen... It's not normal to see a mod lock a thread without throwing a link to the rules in there for backup... but still... frustrating...
I modified my post to not be so tacky and to put it a little on topic... didn't really intend to steal your thread with whining..
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Digiguest said:
I REALLY hope that the second point there is not true. I would not be as closed minded to say that it is not possible.....we just have to unlock it to make it possible.
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Yeah, if the default firmware leaves us without write ability, this may be the point that finally pushes me to root my TF. I use this regularly, both to delete videos from my SD card when they've been watched (so I know what I've already watched), and to review raw files from my digital SLR, then delete the bad images to free up space. I also use the SD card as a way of transferring data between devices, because it's easier than faffing about with the network.
I am happy to see Asus doing these updates on such a regular basis. Since getting my second TF I have been increasing pleased with my purchase. Let's keep the momentum going.
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I am happy to see Asus doing these updates on such a regular basis. Since getting my second TF I have been increasing pleased with my purchase. Let's keep the momentum going.
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Releasing lot of updates is one thing, all I want is fixes to some of issues we are having.
OK noob question here(only reason I ask is because Honeycomb and Tegra are completely different than any phone I have owned or do own). Will taking the OTA kill root on the Transformer? I probably won't accept it anyway and just wait for a flashable or nvflash 3.2 Rom. Anyway, thanks in advance folks.
codeles said:
I'm going to hope that at least 1 lock was an accident. That could happen... It's not normal to see a mod lock a thread without throwing a link to the rules in there for backup... but still... frustrating...
I modified my post to not be so tacky and to put it a little on topic... didn't really intend to steal your thread with whining..
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Guys - my apologies. I locked the thread by mistake. I did not merge the other two duplicate threads as it creates a mess. I have reopened the original thread located here and this one will be cleaned up and closed. Again, my apologies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188621
when will the official update from motorola\google will arrive?
azulgrana said:
when will the official update from motorola\google will arrive?
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Look behind you, it might be already there.
can you give me a date?
and I just read that there isn't an option to use the device as a disk drive, is it true?
It will be pushed out on 11.01.2012 but this is very confidential information, please don't tell anybody!
can someone serious answer me please?
Nobody knows. You'll just have to wait like the rest of us.
No one knows.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium
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can someone serious please answer me?
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You're in the wrong place, pal. If you really want an answer, you'll have to find a connection within Motorola... if they even have a hard date set. If you want to be taken seriously, take time to search and read before posting a question. You'd find dozens of threads on the topic in the xoom forums alone (unfortunately, since others choose not to searrch, too) and you'd quickly learn there is no answer to your question here.
You can have ICS on your xoom today if you want it, just not from Moto. Again, do some reading and research and you can determine whether available alternatives are right for you, or whether to wait for a not-yet-announced official update.
Nearly everyone here is helpful and will assist if you do your homework and still have questions... but you have to take yourself and your own questions seriously before you can expect anyone else to do so... or you can choose to be roasted.
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You're in the wrong place, pal. If you really want an answer, you'll have to find a connection within Motorola... if they even have a hard date set. If you want to be taken seriously, take time to search and read before posting a question. You'd find dozens of threads on the topic in the xoom forums alone (unfortunately, since others choose not to searrch, too) and you'd quickly learn there is no answer to your question here.
You can have ICS on your xoom today if you want it, just not from Moto. Again, do some reading and research and you can determine whether available alternatives are right for you, or whether to wait for a not-yet-announced official update.
Nearly everyone here is helpful and will assist if you do your homework and still have questions... but you have to take yourself and your own questions seriously before you can expect anyone else to do so... or you can choose to be roasted.
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first of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to write your answer.
I did searched(not in XDA, I searched on google) for the answer and found a lot of articles about the XOOM getting the ICS update but they all were very old so I thought that maybe Motorola released a date for the update and I didn't found an answer for that so I decided to ask here.
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first of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to write your answer.
I did searched(not in XDA, I searched on google) for the answer and found a lot of articles about the XOOM getting the ICS update but they all were very old so I thought that maybe Motorola released a date for the update and I didn't found an answer for that so I decided to ask here.
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The problem is, and always will be - you can never set a solid release date for software upgrades when it comes to this 'chain' that the update must go through in order to be released to us.
From a manufacturer and carrier standpoint, they could never give even the slightest hint of a date for a software release until its imminently close. Reason being, there are so many variables and factors affecting a particular update. If they gave any sort of date other than "soon", then if they missed that date that everyone was expecting - customers would blow a gasket.
So essentially, from their standpoint, it is MUCH safer to keep from giving any sort of date of release.
Bottom Line: An official ICS update should be coming sometime soon. Speculation says the U.S. Wifi-only XOOM will be the first, and then others will soon follow. That is the most we know at this point.
So pull up a chair, grab a beer, and join the rest of us as we compulsively surf these android forums every day for the next piece of news to come forward.
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first of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to write your answer.
I did searched(not in XDA, I searched on google) for the answer and found a lot of articles about the XOOM getting the ICS update but they all were very old so I thought that maybe Motorola released a date for the update and I didn't found an answer for that so I decided to ask here.
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I had some good guidance (some nice, some not so nice) when I first started using xda, so glad to pass it along. The best was not to start a new thread except as a last resort - most questions are already asked and answered somewhere, and if not there is a likely an existing thread/discussion in which the question fits. For the most part, xda members aren't jerks and are extremely helpful... but the frustration factor rises quickly when the same questions are asked and answered repeatedly. As you'll probably be told at some time, it is a developers forum not really a users forum... they've just chosen to let us in (because we help test what they're dev'ing).
One more suggestion - be more careful with your topic titles. I opened the thread to read assuming you were posting some official announcement... and would bet most others did, too. Be more clear with the title and you increase the odds that you'll get readers that can/will help.
BTW, I'm still getting used to the xda search function (a bit cumbersome, works best in my opinion searching within a subforum), and often prefer a Google search myself. If you add "xda" to your Google search terms, you'll often find what you need.
azulgrana said:
can someone serious answer me please?
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I understand your concern, the more they wait the less we can play with our toy until that other date (ya know, 23/12/2012)
I'll give you a real answer. No body knows.
It seems like the last few updates were dropped with no prior warning. I assume ICS will be a different situation and they would at least give a little heads up (or so I would hope.) If you have a 4G VZW XOOM, expect to wait another month so Verizon can tinker around with it first.
Or, if you want it now, just go to the dev section and flash the wonderful EOS ROM. It takes all of 15 minutes to do if you're already rooted. In fact, I spent more time downloading the files than I did actually flashing the recovery and the ROM + a few bits and pieces that make it work. It's well worth it.
Hope this answers your question.
After getting dragged along month-to-month waiting for an official Android update with previous devices, I've come to the personal conclusion that I'll never wait for an official Android update ever again. The custom ROMs from these forums are always better and are always available far in advance of any official release.
You may want to give this a try. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400958&page=82
Team EOS (formerly Team Tiamat) has proved to be one of the elite Android dev teams in my opinion and are worth following because they always have something new to try out.
Typically, the update will come in waves and there will be a leak to the blogs a few days before...
Kudos to the people who took the OP and his question seriously. There's no justification for being a d*** to someone who probably isn't familiar with all of the ins and outs of XDA. Come on now...
Anyway, you can watch paint dry in way less time than a carrier or OEM will deliver an official Android version update to their devices (assuming you're using something other than a Nexus device) so custom ROMs are definitely the way to go. It is not uncommon for devs here to release official ROMs before the carriers/OEMs LOL! To that end, check out one of the ICS ROMs from Team EOS in the Xoom development section. Root your Xoom if you haven't done so already, flash one of their ICS ROMs and enjoy . The devs here on XDA are good for releasing ROMs and updates in a timely manner.
So, I noticed that sometime in the last 24 hours TEKHD's ROM Thread has been mysteriously locked. This coming after weeks of many beckoning for a response as to whether the ROM would "go on." Thusly, after these cries for a simple "Hi, I'm alive!" continued to fall upon deaf ears, here we are - no closer to any simple response AND a closed thread, to boot. Am I the only one who NOW wonders what "really" happened?! Is it a simple example of life got too busy? Or did something more happen?? Let me make it VERY clear: I, in NO WAY, am owed anything from TEKHD, nor is anyone else. But it is simply put NOT the guy's style to haul ass diligently on a VERY PROMISING ROM, then suddenly dissappear, leaving his many, many fans wondering "What the...???" So, if nothing else, this thread is a call out for an answer, of sorts, as to what is going on. Thank you for your time...
I would like to know that,also
But I doubt that someone would give us a real explanation
This is so bad... It shouldnt have done without reason or explanation.
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Cause some Asses kept asking if TekHD was working on his rom, then were asking if they should start looking for a new Rom.
Psyscope said:
Cause some Asses kept asking if TekHD was working on his rom, then were asking if they should start looking for a new Rom.
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You assume this - No such proof that it is THAT simple AND petty...
And if this IS in fact the case, then all he should have done is give a one sentence "chime in" to put folks at ease. Nobody was ever criticizing him - all it ever was was concern for the guy. If this is why he so-suddenly stopped, he shouldn't be DEV'ing. It's like, "Welcome to the club..." That is what every ROM developer deals with at times. But all in all, I don't buy it. Just seems too lame for a Dev of his caliber and style...
I assume, as did the Moderater. Where people kept asking is anyone work on this rom.
It's also not typical for there to be NO post from the MOD's at the end of the thread before they actually close it. Like, "Closed at OP's request..." yada, yada, yada. Not that THAT alone would have given any further insight, but this particular case was just SO beyond abrupt, like completely out of "left field." No one could have seen it coming. Just, boom - It's gone...?!
An RD is able to close his own thread for temporary maintenance.
This ridiculous rumor mongering does no one any good!
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