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I mean if sprint is going to charge for the mobile hotspot feature, wouldn't the wireless tether allow you to do the same thing? I'm not too familiar with all that wireless tether can do, but I have had 2 laptops use wireless tether on my Hero simultaneously.
unknown_owner said:
I mean if sprint is going to charge for the mobile hotspot feature, wouldn't the wireless tether allow you to do the same thing? I'm not too familiar with all that wireless tether can do, but I have had 2 laptops use wireless tether on my Hero simultaneously.
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Wifi tethering initially acts just like a hotspot app.
mobile hotspot vs. wireless tether
unknown_owner said:
I mean if sprint is going to charge for the mobile hotspot feature, wouldn't the wireless tether allow you to do the same thing? I'm not too familiar with all that wireless tether can do, but I have had 2 laptops use wireless tether on my Hero simultaneously.
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In my opinion, they're the same thing. I've been able to have multiple devices on using the wireless tether feature on my EVO.
The fact that sprint charges $1/day for this makes a kind of mad though since we already pay for the data to come to the phone, now we have to pay to distribute it to other devices. Most likely to limit abuse.
If you've rooted your phone and loaded a different mod, most likely you are bypassing sprint's ability to charge you.
Sprint mobile hotspot is by Sprint, more integrated with the phone and you normally have to pay per month to use it ($30 I think). I'm pretty sure it also won't let you use 4g (IIRC). Some ROMs have this unlocked so you don't have to pay Sprint (although you would be violating your contract).
Wireless tether is an app that requires root and provides pretty much the same thing as mobile hotspot on the Evo but it definitely supports 4g. Using it is also technically a violation of your contract with Sprint.
Both support at least 5 devices connected at the same time.
In both cases (unlocked mobile hotspot or wireless tether app) I would doub that Sprint would hassle you if you only use them lightly/occasionally, but it is up to you to decide whether to risk doing so.
I addition to above post: the hotspot you pay sprint for will allow you to use 4g. The hacked version available on custom sense roms allows for 3g only (unlike the wireless tether app).
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I am interested in the optional Mobile Hotspot feature and its extra-cost service. I cannot justify that expense if I have to lock it in for a whole two-year contract, but I would find it useful sometimes.
For example, if I plan to be traveling in a certain month and want to add this service for $30 for that billing cycle but drop it later, could I do so?
boomerbubba said:
I am interested in the optional Mobile Hotspot feature and its extra-cost service. I cannot justify that expense if I have to lock it in for a whole two-year contract, but I would find it useful sometimes.
For example, if I plan to be traveling in a certain month and want to add this service for $30 for that billing cycle but drop it later, could I do so?
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If you add/remove the hotspot service before your billing cycle they should be able to change it whenever you want.
Personally though, if you just root your phone, you can have free tethering whenever you want!
You don't have to commit to it, you can add and cancel whenever.
I heard that if you want to use the full-fledged mobile hotspot funstionality to connect to multiple devices, you must pay the $30 mobile broadband service, but if you just wanna tether to one device using, says, PDAnet, you don't have to buy the plan. Is it true? There are EVO users who claim that Sprint cut it off once they know you're tethering w/o plan even just to one device using PDAnet.
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I heard that if you want to use the full-fledged mobile hotspot funstionality to connect to multiple devices, you must pay the $30 mobile broadband service, but if you just wanna tether to one device using, says, PDAnet, you don't have to buy the plan. Is it true? There are EVO users who claim that Sprint cut it off once they know you're tethering w/o plan even just to one device using PDAnet.
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I believe the official statement from Sprint is that this is allowed. However, the last time I used PDAnet, it wasn't very good, and I much prefer the root approach to it, as that way you can tether via wifi as well.
The only way Sprint will actually know if you are tethering is if you are using HIGH AMOUNTS of data CONSTANTLY. Which in that case, they have the right to cut you off if its obvious you are tethering on a constant basis.
But simply tethering a few devices to browse internet, stream videos/music doesn't use up TOO much data. The most I've ever used was about 200MB when I had 3 laptops tethered to my phone for about 1.5 hours.
$30 bucks a month for tethering is ridiculous unless you plan on being tethered for days on end.
The rooted tether works perfectly on my Nexus, to connect laptops, my DSi, friends iphones/ipod touches etc and is best of all free.
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The only way Sprint will actually know if you are tethering is if you are using HIGH AMOUNTS of data CONSTANTLY. Which in that case, they have the right to cut you off if its obvious you are tethering on a constant basis.
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$30 bucks a month for tethering is ridiculous unless you plan on being tethered for days on end.
The rooted tether works perfectly on my Nexus, to connect laptops, my DSi, friends iphones/ipod touches etc and is best of all free.
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Nevertheless, there is a difference between what the terms and conditions might forbid, and what you might get away with only because it is selectively enforced at the carrier's discretion. From Sprint's point of view, reading the agreement you sign, you might be considered to be cheating them out of payment for a premium service. You might think that "ridiculous," but you signed a contract.
I know about under-the-table, rooted tethering and hotspot creation. I can go to the dev forums and read about that if and when I need to. My question is about the business terms and process for following the contract.
The hotspot is $29.99 a month. You can turn it on and off all you want. If you only use it for the weekend, that's all they charge you for. I do it like twice a month with evo. I just chat with them and it takes like 3 mins. Most of the time I use USB tethering. I have 2.2 and cant root yet so I use PDAnet. Awesome little program. I have a good 4G so I use the hell out of it.
I've talk to sprint about it and the USB and Bluetooth tethering is fine. Free
Use PDAnet and it will work 4G and 3G.
If I plan to use the PS3 or Wii. Ill chat with a rep and turn the WiFi Hub on for a few days.
So I was checking around to see if T-mobile will support tethering and I found this blog that was written today. No T-Mobile Tethering Support.
Here's what it says if you don't want to click the link:
"As many of you know, stock Android 2.2 supports tethering out of the box. However, the folks over at TmoNews have discovered that while this is the case, the T-Mobile G2 will not support tethering at launch. See T-Mobile's official comment regarding this below:
“T-Mobile does not currently support handset tethering or offer a tethering rate plan. Though tethering and Wi-Fi sharing will not be initially supported on the T-Mobile G2, we know that consumers are interested in these features and we are working to develop a solution to support them in the future.”
While this is disappointing, the good news is that T-Mobile appears to be working on a solution as they know people are very interested in this. Let's hope we all get to tether officially soon.
So folks, do you think this will happen? Do you think G2 owners will ever get the option?"
Root + WiFi Tether will fix that ASAP.
T-Mobile does not support tethering anymore
T-Mobile does not support tethering any phone it is against the terms and conditions of your contract.
That said T-Mobile also does not do take any steps to block tethering, they do not block apps like pda.net or easy tether. Smartphone data speeds will get throttled once you reach 10 Gigs of data usage.
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Root + WiFi Tether will fix that ASAP.
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Or just root.
atlp99 said:
T-Mobile does not support tethering any phone it is against the terms and conditions of your contract.
That said T-Mobile also does not do take any steps to block tethering, they do not block apps like pda.net or easy tether. Smartphone data speeds will get throttled once you reach 10 Gigs of data usage.
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Then T-Mobile should deploy SWAT team to kill whoever do tethering.
i have seen the settings.apk from the G2 and it had tethering option so it may work but they won't actually provide helpdesk support for it
It probably has the USB tether left in tact, Like most phones do now. The wifi tethering they remove.
Just an FYI: the reason why tmobile doesn't BLOCK tethering is because they *CAN'T*. There is NO WAY FOR THEM TO KNOW that you are tethering or that you have a tethering application installed on your phone.
carrier way of blocking tethering is to block/remove from market
CyanogenMod.
Cyanogen's already got a G2 build ready to go, if I understood one of his recent tweets... we just need actual phones and a root method.
I can't wait lol
i must have missed that tweet, that sounds awesome, we just need to get root on it and we're good to go, ENG build and stock build(root and un-root) just need to get device in hand and try a few things to get root
Has anyone tried to do usb tethering?
By apps or configuring the pc?
Similiar to this thread in the samsung vibrant section:
HOWTO: Tethering in windows 7 (no app needed!)
*I cant post link need mod approval
well my G2 demo does not seem to have the option, although the settings apk from the shipped rom thread had it when i put it on my slide, so no native tether on G2 which is upsetting as hell
PDA NET WIRED tether works on my T-mobile G2 on windows 7 64
does this interest anyone?
Yes thats good that pda app works, thx.
If thats the only way to tether then I have to buy the app.
smthkat789 said:
Yes thats good that pda app works, thx.
If thats the only way to tether then I have to buy the app.
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I'm using the free one just fine.
Tether and Hot Spots will be cooked into a rom and soon as we get some devs in here. No worries.
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T-Mobile does not support tethering any phone it is against the terms and conditions of your contract.
That said T-Mobile also does not do take any steps to block tethering, they do not block apps like pda.net or easy tether. Smartphone data speeds will get throttled once you reach 10 Gigs of data usage.
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T-mobile may not "officially" support tethering but their tech support was very helpful
when I was having issues tethering my TM506 to my netbook back in 08
I went over 10GB last month and never even had my speed throttled. I moved and used my N1 as a wireless hotspot for about 2 weeks before I got my cable hooked up. I regularly go over 5GB without tethering at all.
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I currently have a Vibrant and have unlocked the wireless hotspot that comes with the phone. I want to get the mytouch but T-Mobile is now imposing a 14.99 tether plan as of November 3rd. I do not use tethering enough to justify that expense, do you guys think we will be able to unlock the tethering that is built into froyo or just use some sort of app off the market to avoid paying the 14.99?
Pdanet is what I use on my wife's Vibrant.
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GentillyWoods said:
Pdanet is what I use on my wife's Vibrant.
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Hopefully that is something that can be used on the mytouch
If there is a will, there's a way
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Hopefully that is something that can be used on the mytouch
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Should work as long as they don't gimp the market like AT&T has.
In either event, hacks to re-enable FroYo's built-in tethering should be trivial.
ATT GIMPED the market? how so I tether always I leave it on all night at hotels sometimes and no repercussions. Same plan no extra charge. unless they changed something and im grandfathered in with my old 4 year unlimited internet plan.
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ATT GIMPED the market? how so I tether always I leave it on all night at hotels sometimes and no repercussions. Same plan no extra charge. unless they changed something and im grandfathered in with my old 4 year unlimited internet plan.
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Yes, gimped. As in, you can't install un-trusted sources. It's an option on every other android handset, except those from AT&T. They pretty much took the best part about Android and neutered it.
Are you rooted? I'm talking about stock settings, where you can't get at the option to change it. Of course, rooting is another story, but having the android market being the only official source for apps sucks ass.
Speaking as an employee of T-mobile, I am seriously confused as to how the company is going to implement these charges. I just got the mytouch 4g as a champion device, and the tethering works just fine for me! I didn't change my account or anything, but then again I am not on a standard account. Now, I doubt that the phone automatically disables the feature when it detects an account without the tethering feature, but maybe T-Mo has something up their sleeve. They like to leave us in the dark with the important details.
Edit: Also didn't consider that maybe it's something to do with the champion device itself. Perhaps they left it unlocked for us to screw with, but I'll test a retail unit soon and see if there's a difference.
We all know that part of TMO's "actual unlimited" plan means you can't tether. So I wonder how TMO's going to approach seeking out those people. Does your phone report the kind of ROM you're on to TMO? If so, that could be one way they find out.
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We all know that part of TMO's "actual unlimited" plan means you can't tether. So I wonder how TMO's going to approach seeking out those people. Does your phone report the kind of ROM you're on to TMO? If so, that could be one way they find out.
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T-mobile cannot legally look at your private data. They cannot look at what you're downloading or what you're using to download. What T-mobile does is look at the user agent of your browser to see if it reports you on a mobile or desktop browser, and they monitor the volume of data to see if there are any abnormal spikes. You can easily get around these by saying "all the data used was on my phone by *insert application*" or "I was using desktop mode on my browser, I wasn't tethering." They still have the right to suspend or terminate you but it's less likely.
This might interest you. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26649587
just as what all telecom companies do,
log your network usage, browser
the can tell whether its mobile or not
From what ive been finding out tmobile filters the user agent
If I use my phone as a hotspot for my roku box I should be fine shouldn't I since I'm not using it for a laptop where theirs browsers useragents. Thanks!!!
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I have wondered for a long time why it is that providers care about tethering. As I see it it's all usage which is good news for them. I am with Rogers in Canada and tethering comes enabled. When I tether my laptop my usage goes up. Why do they care?
Daveosh said:
I have wondered for a long time why it is that providers care about tethering. As I see it it's all usage which is good news for them. I am with Rogers in Canada and tethering comes enabled. When I tether my laptop my usage goes up. Why do they care?
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Because all the major US carriers charge you to use your mobile device as a hotspot. By using free or third party apps to bypass the carrier's hotspot add-on, that's one less revenue stream the carrier can make.
When I got my S3, I couldn't tether. Even tho I have a grandfathered plan with hotspot. And NO way I am giving that up! I did not try a different rom but was rooted and used other wifi apps and no luck. However, my G2 and currntly SR and T989 both work just fine.