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So who's working on the tether app?

We all need it. Which one of you geniuses are going to write the tether app?

If we can ssh in we could just set up a proxy thru putty/SSH. Simple solution for now but an "internet Sharing" app would be nice. I am not much of a programmer but I love to play with Linux and I am hoping that I can make some c apps work.... like mplayer

Yes! most def!
If I can't tether, i'm buying a crappy sony phone from Tmobile for 3G / modem for my laptop. (if it'll work)

ok.... so does anyone have any ideas? The Wireless API doesn't seem to have support for AP mode so would we have to put our laptops into AP mode or carry a router with us everywhere? If it can be put into AP mode then we need to find out if the kernel will have iptables support. Can we run shell scripts in the Java? I can't find anything on the USB port and the Bluetooth API was removed from the SDK. I would love to see this work but without a connection to the PC I don't see how. Once we get a PC connection it should be fairly easy to make this work.

aad4321 said:
Im kind of afraid of this opensouce thing. I hope people dont take advantage of it and charge people a rediculous amount of money to use a simple app they have made. (like the iphone). This is ony of the reasons why i like windows mobile so much is because of all of the free apps available
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The reason winmo has so many apps available is because it's been around for a long time. Just having a lot of stuff doesn't mean it has a lot of *good* stuff. Having 1000 notepad applications that don't do what you like isn't really a good situation.
Android is relatively new. But the ease with which someone can become a developer for the platform is definitely a plus for future software coming very quickly. An Android developer can readily download all the equipment necessary to make an Android app for free in a few minutes. If he or she already knows java, it's that much easier.
I imagine that marketplace will be just like it is for other platforms. Many developers who are already open-source-oriented will definitely release their applications for free. Many others will charge just a small amount because they know they can't make a return on exorbitant fees. Also, despite the bad press they've gotten, Google's philosophy is still "do no evil." I don't think they'd let a dev gouge the community. All these factors make the Android philosophy automatically better than the Apple model.

hiimcliff said:
We all need it. Which one of you geniuses are going to write the tether app?
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Hah, considering T-Mobile will limit your speeds as low as 50kbps if you use too much bandwidth, I don't think tethering is a great idea. You'll make it like 10 days with 3G speeds and then have dial-up speeds from then on.

they removed the 1gb cap and are doing it based off of usage. I use tethering on my Mogul with sprint and barely use 3gb in a month, with downloading stuff plus WoW and browsing alot. But it's not a tethering app for the G1 remember. Yes initially, but it will be used as an app for any android phone. So the need for a tethering app is there still.

there's a rumor T-Mobile plans to set a limit at 10GB
it's good enough for 99.999%, even you do tethering

tether or AP?
I would much rather have an AP app then say a USB or BT tether imo. I have heard that there is a debug CLI on the USB port but I think that it tied into the walled garden well above the linux shell level, but its a start. I should have got into this thing in 07 but honestly I never thought it would see the light of day...

mingkee said:
there's a rumor T-Mobile plans to set a limit at 10GB
it's good enough for 99.999%, even you do tethering
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On certain plans you will have a 10gig limit

It _may_ be closer than you think

Well, all I know is I'd use a LOT of data if I tethered. I used over a gig in 3 weeks of owning my Fuze (1095MB), and using that connection on a computer would easily triple it. I sincerely doubt T-Mobile is going to allow you to take 4 gigs a month when their previous cap was at 1 and they changed the wording of the contract.

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Hah, considering T-Mobile will limit your speeds as low as 50kbps if you use too much bandwidth, I don't think tethering is a great idea. You'll make it like 10 days with 3G speeds and then have dial-up speeds from then on.
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I have a kaiser in UK with the webandwalk plan. I stream things regularly and only once got a letter mentioning that I was going too much over the "limit". Other than that I never felt any slowing in my speed.
Regards
Emerson

Ok so back to a tether app.... has anyone figured out how to connect the G1 to a PC? WiFi would be the best solution if we could set it in AP mode but I haven't found a way to do that. So how about bluetooth? I heard they removed the bluetooth API in 0.9 and 1.0. That leaves USB but I am not sure how to make that work either. If we could get some connection to the PC that would be a big start.

Confirmed That It Will Have A 10 Gig Limit...then You Have Edge Connection For Remainder Of Bill Cyc..wifi Is The Alternative To Still Use The Phones Web W/ 3g Like Browsing

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Confirmed That It Will Have A 10 Gig Limit...then You Have Edge Connection For Remainder Of Bill Cyc..wifi Is The Alternative To Still Use The Phones Web W/ 3g Like Browsing
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-is there anyway that you could give us a link or was this a rep?
-i have read things about the 10 cap but i am not sure either...
-some people say "just wait" but this gives us something to do until the delivery

A Rep...and There Has To Be A Data Plan Or You Can Only Call 911 And 611

Chainfire said:
It _may_ be closer than you think
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My connection pwns yours (lolz), thanks for the idea for the sig though.

data package
derkenblosh said:
Yes! most def!
If I can't tether, i'm buying a crappy sony phone from Tmobile for 3G / modem for my laptop. (if it'll work)
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fyi everyone tmobile is requiring the g1 to have a specific data plan that you have to have for the g1. And the word is that it only works with the g1 so you cant just swap your sim card into another phone and expect the data plan to work. I have the same problem and thought I could do that with my WING but apparently not. Guess we have to wait for someone to make a tethering app.

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fyi everyone tmobile is requiring the g1 to have a specific data plan that you have to have for the g1. And the word is that it only works with the g1 so you cant just swap your sim card into another phone and expect the data plan to work. I have the same problem and thought I could do that with my WING but apparently not. Guess we have to wait for someone to make a tethering app.
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I called CS about this question, the answer is: you can
keep in mind that, G1 uses epc.tmobile.com as APN, try it on Wing
you even can request CS to add VPN tag in order to use internet3 APN
will pick up G1 at corp store, and setup my account, switch to G1 data service and add VPN tag
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1444468

Free Hotspot?

What happened to the hotspot free for a month that was discussed all over the internet prior to launch?

Im not sure what happened with that but if you don't mind rooting the phone the wireless tether.apk works for the Evo

I used Toast's root and it doesn't work with it...

there is an update
but it would be nice if sprints was hacked since it acts like a true router so my zune can see it but wifi tether is ad hoc

I ran the unrevoked root over the Toast root and now the wireless tethering works great! Using it to send this from my laptop!

I have the hotspot for free right now. is that cause I did the update? Ive pinky tried connecting it took one device so far. It works pretty damn well if I don't say so myself. So theyre offering it free for a month?

i think the free hotspot for a month thing only works if you are in a 4g market.....

My Sprint Hotspot is working and has been since launch day, and I didn't get the tethering.
I'ma lucky one I guess

I think it is free until July

Tethering
I talked to a Sprint rep today, some people got signed up for the $29 hotpot plan automatically, those who are using the hotspot app might want to check their sprint phone bill to validate.

chazglenn3 said:
I ran the unrevoked root over the Toast root and now the wireless tethering works great! Using it to send this from my laptop!
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i have the unrevoked and wifi tether for rooted evo is still not working. my ipod touch still does not see it. im so flustered with this. can someone help me to get wifi tether working?

Your ipod will not see it till they get infrastructure mode baked in any moment now they say
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I'm pretty sure the "free month" was just a bug and that it was going to be a month until they fixed it. Also I'm pretty sure it was just 4G tethering, not 3G.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/evo-4g-on-sale-at-8am-on-june-4th-with-one-month-free-4g-mobile/
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Interesting note... The words from Sprint at the bottom don't seen to condemn other tethering options. They just say that the $29/mo option comes with more reliability and the ability to tether up to 8 devices. Which is a valid point.
I wonder who the intended audience was. Probably more for sales people to sell the tethering option to folks than admitting that other options exist.

2.2 USB Tethering

I updated to 2.2 yesterday. The only issue I am having is that when I try to tether through USB, it gives me an Error code 67 PCS Vision username/password error.
Has anyone else had this issue. For some reason I was thinking that they were going to let us tether through Froyo, but it not, I guess I will go back to easytether.

I had gotten that a couple of times ... What I ended up doing was using a different USB port which caused a configuraiton of the port and then USB-tether worked fine ...

Good sugestion. I gave that a try, and even tried it on another PC all together, but still does the same thing.
Also, now when I go to System Updates, and Update profile, I get the error as well.

That is the response you get when you aren't paying Sprint the $30 monthly hotspot fee. You can't USB tether unless you pay the fee either. Unless you buy Easy Tether or PDANet from the market, or root the phone and use Wi-Fi tether or one of the Froyo ROMs without Sense.

chazglenn3 said:
That is the response you get when you aren't paying Sprint the $30 monthly hotspot fee. You can't USB tether unless you pay the fee either. Unless you buy Easy Tether or PDANet from the market, or root the phone and use Wi-Fi tether or one of the Froyo ROMs without Sense.
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Okay, thats what I was thinking, I don't know why I was thinking the usb tethering would be free with 2.2
Thanks for the response. Back to easy tether

Sure it ain't free?
PS. I've been checking htc sw update and still don't see 2.2. wtf
I am not doing the update.zip thing.

Plancy said:
Sure it ain't free?
PS. I've been checking htc sw update and still don't see 2.2. wtf
I am not doing the update.zip thing.
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It's free with the vanilla version of FroYo 2.2 but HTC/Sprint removed tethering unless you pay the $30. This is why I use Cyanogen Mod 6.0 on my Evo.

chazglenn3 said:
It's free with the vanilla version of FroYo 2.2 but HTC/Sprint removed tethering unless you pay the $30. This is why I use Cyanogen Mod 6.0 on my Evo.
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Well, EasyTether works well, is it confirmed to be working for 2.2?

Plancy said:
Well, EasyTether works well, is it confirmed to be working for 2.2?
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Ya, EasyTether is still working perfectly for me on 2.2. When tethered with 4g, my laptop still pulls 5mb down. It also seems to have a better latency than 1.47 did.

Kornsaq said:
I updated to 2.2 yesterday. The only issue I am having is that when I try to tether through USB, it gives me an Error code 67 PCS Vision username/password error.
Has anyone else had this issue. For some reason I was thinking that they were going to let us tether through Froyo, but it not, I guess I will go back to easytether.
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i am not sure it the 2.2 that is doing it. you may need to call sprint and have a tech reset some of the network stuff. and then you should be good to go. i got the 67 error on my touch pro 2 and that was the issue it was something not set up right on the phone and the network causing the problem.

I was under the impression the error happens when you try to USB tether over 3G instead of 4G.

AzN1337c0d3r said:
I was under the impression the error happens when you try to USB tether over 3G instead of 4G.
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.......... +1

can't say for sure on that with 2.2, but in 2.1 you could USB tether for free using 4g, but not 3g. Trying to 3g tether without paying the $30 extra each month would result in the "error 67, unknown username/password" error.
They may have removed the ability completely with the 2.2 update...talk about bait and switch.

Easy Tether works fine and it is free.

Not bait-and-switch ... but still unreasonable
Babble0n said:
They may have removed the ability completely with the 2.2 update...talk about bait and switch.
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It's not a matter of "removing" an ability. It's that Sprint/HTC fixed a bug that accidentally allowed customers (that were not paying the $30/mo for the HotSpot feature) to still be able to connect when using the 4G mode of the radio modem (it did correctly block access when in 3G mode).
Your contract with Sprint excludes HotSpot functionality unless you pay the $30/mo for the "option". Because you were able to exploit a bug for several months before it got fixed in the 2.2 release isn't a reason to complain when they fix it. (Well, it's ok to complain -- just don't expect to get much sympathy! Those of us living in non-4G regions never got to enjoy the free service you got.)
While I disagree with Sprint's excessive charge for the HotSpot service, and I deplore their disabling a useful and already-built-in (to the base Android system) feature, it's not quite fair to accuse them of bait-and-switch in this case.
I can understand Sprint's desire to not have users routinely using the HotSpot service as a full-time replacement for their landline/cable broadband, particularly without paying for it, it's not like the EVO can't suck enormous amounts of data anyway -- after all, they did bundle Sprint TV and they specifically disabled its use over WiFi -- you have to run it over their cellular network. A bizarre decision if you're trying to cut down on data traffic.

[Q] Is the 3G model going to be worth it in the USA?

Anyone have any ideas if the 3G will be worth it, there are some discouraging posts over at the notion ink blog, in the comments section, about the bandwidth limitations on the 3G models and them being selected for you, instead of allowing us to pick our own.
(I am one of the ones that did not get a pre-order in on time)

It would be considered a new contract on AT&T so you would not have unlimited data. Also in the US it is only for AT&T

Why thank you for that, being a sprint person, and an Android lover, AT&T is certainly not something I want to deal with, at least that helps me with my decision, I'll just have to use a USB Sprint 4G adapter... :

finndo said:
Why thank you for that, being a sprint person, and an Android lover, AT&T is certainly not something I want to deal with, at least that helps me with my decision, I'll just have to use a USB Sprint 4G adapter... :
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If you have an android phone I would recommend root it and install wifi tether. Rooting is a very simple process for the EVO at unrevoked.com and I am not sure if it will have support for a usb adapter. You might get the MiFi that is coming to Sprint soon.

Interesting topic. Since I am also on Sprint, its probably better off just getting the Wifi version and wifi tether to the EVO or pdanet. Now when Traveling overseas where Sprint doesn't work (except Jamaica and Taiwan) I guess the wifi will have to just do.
TS

smedley.jason said:
If you have an android phone I would recommend root it and install wifi tether. Rooting is a very simple process for the EVO at unrevoked.com and I am not sure if it will have support for a usb adapter. You might get the MiFi that is coming to Sprint soon.
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twospirits said:
Interesting topic. Since I am also on Sprint, its probably better off just getting the Wifi version and wifi tether to the EVO or pdanet. Now when Traveling overseas where Sprint doesn't work (except Jamaica and Taiwan) I guess the wifi will have to just do.
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Can you tether an Android device to an Android device? I have purchased EasyTether, I use it for work when I have to drive between states, but did not know they made an Android app to tether to, I thought it only worked on PC's. I'll have to go to their website and look into it.

On Android if you root it you can install a WiFi Tether application that allows you to turn your phone into a hot spot without having to pay Sprint.
http://lifehacker.com/5447347/how-to-tether-your-android-phone

smedley.jason said:
On Android if you root it you can install a WiFi Tether application that allows you to turn your phone into a hot spot without having to pay Sprint.
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oh ok, yeah I forgot you can make it a hotspot... since I don't need that function right now...
good call. Yeah, I'll stick with the wifi model.

You are correct, I keep forgetting that pdanet only has the PC drivers.
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Or if you don't want to root and get good T-Mobile service, the Nexus One/S can be a Wifi hotspot out of the box.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Vandalet said:
Or if you don't want to root and get good T-Mobile service, the Nexus One/S can be a Wifi hotspot out of the box.
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If you are on T-Mobile you can specify the overseas version by emailing them and it is capable to connect to T-Mobile.

Vandalet said:
Or if you don't want to root and get good T-Mobile service, the Nexus One/S can be a Wifi hotspot out of the box.
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I thought WifI Hotspot tethering was a standard feature in Froyo...
I have it on my Desire (yes it's rooted, but I think the hotspot functionality was part of the original ROM).

litening said:
I thought WifI Hotspot tethering was a standard feature in Froyo...
I have it on my Desire (yes it's rooted, but I think the hotspot functionality was part of the original ROM).
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It is a standard feature but the service providers locked it down so you would have to pay them to use it. The nexus one and s are the only ones that have it enabled.

You can pick your carrier with the adam
Rohan's interview on Android Police states:
AP: Regarding the 3G model, how many frequency sets are being offered? In the US, AT&T and T-Mobile run on different 3G bands, necessitating at least two US 3G models.
Rohan: Initially we offered only one 3G module which was suited for AT&T, but then when customers requested we changed their models. From next pre-order everyone will be given an option of deciding their own 3G module for a specific frequency.
So, if you have already pre-ordered but want a different carrier...email them and provide your order info with your carrier preference. If you pre-order now you will have an option to indicate your choice

Data limitations will be determined by cell carrier not this device. And yes, every company but Sprint has a limit on data right now. Come to think of it, Sprint might have a limit for their USB hotspot and for the devices that have an EVDO radio in them, not sure on that.
Regardless as others stated, if this bothers you just wifi tether. But I have a Chrome Netbook with a verizon connection in it and I love it. Not having to deal with wifi tether all the time is nice.

webs05 said:
Data limitations will be determined by cell carrier not this device. And yes, every company but Sprint has a limit on data right now. Come to think of it, Sprint might have a limit for their USB hotspot and for the devices that have an EVDO radio in them, not sure on that.
Regardless as others stated, if this bothers you just wifi tether. But I have a Chrome Netbook with a verizon connection in it and I love it. Not having to deal with wifi tether all the time is nice.
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i'm jealous, i have been hoping everyday a cr-48 would be waiting for me when i get home.

Crimton said:
i'm jealous, i have been hoping everyday a cr-48 would be waiting for me when i get home.
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Don't worry he only has a 100Mb of data.

smedley.jason said:
Don't worry he only has a 100Mb of data.
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but it was free! free things are my favorite

Crimton said:
but it was free! free things are my favorite
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I know i'm jealous as well.

I just ordered my Adam and the only model left was the Pixel Qi 3G version. If I had a choice, I would have gone wifi only because I don't have AT&T as a carrier (I have Verizon). Was it just me that found a lack of info on the website about the 3G carrier requirements? It wouldn't have changed my order (because I ordered to late), but it seemed a little vague. I'm still stoked to get the adam though.
Cheers!

Before I buy...

So I'm thinking of getting the Verizon HTC 10. Can anyone confirm if SunShine can s-off the current firmware verzion that the HTC 10 is shipped with? Perhaps if they have time to comment, maybe @jcase or @beaups could chime in? Thanks!

pastorbennett said:
So I'm thinking of getting the Verizon HTC 10. Can anyone confirm if SunShine can s-off the current firmware verzion that the HTC 10 is shipped with? Perhaps if they have time to comment, maybe @jcase or @beaups could chime in? Thanks!
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All currently shipping versions of the Verizon 10 are compatible with sunshine.

beaups said:
All currently shipping versions of the Verizon 10 are compatible with sunshine.
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Thanks! That's all I needed to hear. With being on a grandfathered unlimited data plan and living in an area where the only other option for a high speed ISP is satellite service, I need to be rooted to use wifi tethering for my primary ISP.

pastorbennett said:
Thanks! That's all I needed to hear. With being on a grandfathered unlimited data plan and living in an area where the only other option for a high speed ISP is satellite service, I need to be rooted to use wifi tethering for my primary ISP.
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FWIW, some phones no longer check your plan before allowing tether. I'm not certain if this applies to the 10, but my mom just got a Moto G4 Plus and while I was setting it up I decided to check just for fun and it allowed her to do hotspot and the like. Also on unlimited data from Verizon btw.

Native Tethering
pastorbennett said:
Thanks! That's all I needed to hear. With being on a grandfathered unlimited data plan and living in an area where the only other option for a high speed ISP is satellite service, I need to be rooted to use wifi tethering for my primary ISP.
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Many of the rooted ROMs have tethering already activated. If you self-root stock and stay that way, there's a text edit you need to make to get tethering to work perfectly without a third-party app.
See the link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/help/vzw-hotspot-setupunlocked-htc10-version-t3380588
I used to use third-part app WiFi Tether, but the native tether is much faster to load and unload.
FYI, I'm using the unlocked 10 converted to Verizon via the XDA guide and am loving it. I have all the Verizon features and no issues whatsoever ... and didn't have to send off my phone to get it s-off or rooted.

hunteditor said:
Many of the rooted ROMs have tethering already activated. If you self-root stock and stay that way, there's a text edit you need to make to get tethering to work perfectly without a third-party app.
See the link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/help/vzw-hotspot-setupunlocked-htc10-version-t3380588
I used to use third-part app WiFi Tether, but the native tether is much faster to load and unload.
FYI, I'm using the unlocked 10 converted to Verizon via the XDA guide and am loving it. I have all the Verizon features and no issues whatsoever ... and didn't have to send off my phone to get it s-off or rooted.
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Thanks for that. I had looked at a thread that was a little less detailed, and only mentioned editing one line in default.xml. I'll probably put together a flashable zip like I did for my Moto Droid Turbo.