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GingerBlur hotspot

Any way to create hotspot in Gignerblur (without paying extra to ATT) ?

Wow, this is exactly what people were talking about in that long thread about how most people dont steal tethering, lol. Way more of the casual users do than you think and thus its justified for At&T to lock down any device they feel they need to.
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Data plans are already limited. Screw them.
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Wow, this is exactly what people were talking about in that long thread about how most people dont steal tethering, lol. Way more of the casual users do than you think and thus its justified for At&T to lock down any device they feel they need to.
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F that -- I pay for unlimited internet access from them AND for unlimited text (even though texting is JUST data). I should be able to use my unlimited internet the way I want to use it without having to incur more charges.

1) texting is NOT DATA, it uses un-use protions of the VOICE network.
2) you pay for unlimited data on YOUR DEVICE not on every wi-fi enabled device you own.

Did you enable tether+sideload when you rooted? If so, just choose the custom tether APN and then enable hotspot. Tether+sideload is something separate from Gingerblur.

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1) texting is NOT DATA, it uses un-use protions of the VOICE network.
2) you pay for unlimited data on YOUR DEVICE not on every wi-fi enabled device you own.
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ATT gives us 2gb of data for 25 dollars a month, why do they get to control the way that we use those 2gb? If you were on an unlimited plan and used tens of gigs per month then I would understand how that would be abusing the system but if you are on a data capped plan then tether away in my opinion.

I would agree except you signed a contract.

Yes. , we all signed contracts. It's not like we were given much choice. In the usa all cell carriers practice the same policy. They all make money from costumers that need their services. But they force our hand into paying for services that are overpriced and convenientley designed to bring them even more profit to our losses. I would love to be able to buy a smartphone and use the limited data plan it comes with any way I want to. If I get 2 gigs and want to use them through my pc, well, than I should've allowed to do so. Data is data and is sold to us in a certain quantity, at not allways good quality, because or speed limitations and reception. We pay for it anyway, but why should we settle for tethering charges? Well because we have no choice. All carriers do the same so there are no options. They do it because they want more monkey and apparently nobody can stop them. Its like gas prices. They find the lamest reasons to increase prices and they get away with it because we need gas and are so damn dependent on it. We now need data and we will pay for it no matter the unfairness of the conditions. Maybe they should start charging extra if we buy gas for anything else other than our personal cars. Like if u want to use your boat, well, than u have to have a different price for that. Im tyerd and rambling but its not right.
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dcarpenter85 said:
Did you enable tether+sideload when you rooted? If so, just choose the custom tether APN and then enable hotspot. Tether+sideload is something separate from Gingerblur.
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How do I do that? I did exactly this directions ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12631216&postcount=2911
Thanks a lot
To Forcelite. I pay for 2GB data, I would like to use it whatever way I'd like.

It should have asked you if you wanted to enable sideloading and/or tethering at somepoint after you ran beforeupdate.bat

Got it, thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZi-5MOs7pc

this reminds me of back in the day when isp tried to charge extra for people with more than one computer in the house, then wifi routers came along... kinda ridiculous that people pay for their data and cant use it how they want, what difference does it make as long as users dont go over their data plan. this just seems like a method for att to get people to sign up for more data that they can use by restricting tether.

AT&T tethering WARNING

This is for anyone who uses a wireless headset to listen to Pandora or a similar streaming app. I have been served with several notices about my illegal tethering but i have never tethered or use that feature nor do i use my webtop or the hdmi on my phone. I found out after talking with AT&T to resolve this, that they consider it tethering when you use your Bluetooth, whether it be to a headset or car stereo or even your TV to listen to streaming music you are tethering. AT&T claims that even if you are at home and you are on your home wifi network that they are still requiring you to have a tethering plan to stream to a Bluetooth device. Yes absurd it is and completely ridiculous in my eyes.
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If they did that to me I would cancel that day.

Had the same conversation with them today, only the rep said that Pandora--->BT headphones is NOT tethering, but Pandora--->BT car stereo IS tethering. I think she was just reading from a script because when I told her I was using Bluetooth headphones, she wanted to know what kind of cable I used for that...

At&t is continuing to get more and more absurd with their definition of "tethering" and rules regarding it.

What? How would they detect that you're using BT at all? And if they can tell that you're using BT, how can they tell what you're using it for??

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Had the same conversation with them today, only the rep said that Pandora--->BT headphones is NOT tethering, but Pandora--->BT car stereo IS tethering. I think she was just reading from a script because when I told her I was using Bluetooth headphones, she wanted to know what kind of cable I used for that...
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She apparently didn't know what Bluetooth means, and thought instead that you were talking about a wired set of headphones. Regardless, Bluetooth streaming has as little (nothing) to do with AT&T as a wired connection does. The reason they can tell when you use Bluetooth or use your phone as a wifi hotspot is because the data sent to your phone sends a sort of "receipt" back to the carrier. Included in this uplink packet is a number which decreases by one everytime the signal is bounced to and returned from another device. If they see this number has been decreased more than your device does on its own, they can assume you are "tethering" wirelessly.
I have just received a letter, a phone call, and a text message about this myself. I have a Bluetooth head unit in my car and adapter for my computer with which I listen to streaming music. Needless to say, I am outraged. It's the same sort of crap we went through before with forced data plans for smartphones: these days you can't even buy a smartphone, not even from a third party, and use only 2G voice. Maybe you want a smartphone for its functionality as a pda, or maybe you would like to use wifi once in a while. Nope. It's almost like Exxon charging me for NOT driving my car.

From what I gather, T-Mobile does offer more value with no restrictions, while using Android you don't incur fees for using the hotspot features. That is Malarkey, for the carriers to restrict functionality devices. Hopefully, AT&T will honor the Tmobile contract if the succeed in their acquisition. If not, then will be looking for a reasonable MVNO.
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Iwould ask the same question how do they know that you are using bluetooth. Big brother theroy If I had that provider and they did that i would to them to stick it. Thats why I am with MetroPCS no questions and dont expect much lol

It seems pretty clear to me that MOST of you probably incurred abnormally high data usage due to lots of Pandora streaming causing you to be automatically flagged as a likely candidate for internet tethering/internet sharing without paying for it.
The reps likely had a 30 minute info session on what internet tethering is and heard that it can occur via USB, WiFi, or Bluetooth. So lacking any real knowledge about these things they heard you say you connected your phone via bluetooth to your car, etc. and thought bluetooth tethering/internet sharing instead of seeing it for what it is... a simple audio connection.

sonus said:
It seems pretty clear to me that MOST of you probably incurred abnormally high data usage due to lots of Pandora streaming causing you to be automatically flagged as a likely candidate for internet tethering/internet sharing without paying for it.
The reps likely had a 30 minute info session on what internet tethering is and heard that it can occur via USB, WiFi, or Bluetooth. So lacking any real knowledge about these things they heard you say you connected your phone via bluetooth to your car, etc. and thought bluetooth tethering/internet sharing instead of seeing it for what it is... a simple audio connection.
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Would have to agree with him.

I agree as well. I was flagged for tethering because i download ROMs and what not on my phone. I was grandfathered in with my old unlimited data plan. So my data is ultra high all the time. Once i went over all my months of service and the high data they dropped the tethering from my bill. It is nuts how they watch us now

Well either just pay whatever AT&T ask you to pay or get out and use some sort of prepaid service such as Straight Talk or the new tmo plan for $30 a month.
Nagging around will get you nowhere and you'd still have to pay.

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Well either just pay whatever AT&T ask you to pay or get out and use some sort of prepaid service such as Straight Talk or the new tmo plan for $30 a month.
Nagging around will get you nowhere and you'd still have to pay.
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Honestly, that's true.
I know that all carriers will go after you for tethering (minus T-Mobile, they don't seem to give a ****) if they charge for it, and you do it without paying.
All these people saying "We shouldn't have to pay for using our same data!", look at it this way, the $45 data plan w/ tethering has 4GB, the $25 data plan without tethering is 2GB, basically your only paying for the extra 2GB if you went over on the $25 plan, AND they won't say anything about you tethering, so it's really a win/win.
More data + ability to tether without AT&T *****ing.

Its not the data they look at, back when i had an unlimited plan and a laptop with a mobile bb built in card id slip my sim in that, fire my lappy up, and have mobile broadband with a unlimited data plan (non-smartphone). AT&T never questioned me, even though my usage chart had enormous spikes occasionally, im talking like >100mb to a few GB. I have a captivate now and have been tethering it occasionally since i got it, suddenly last month i started getting texts saying they were gonna add tethering to my plan if i didnt stop, support rep, no TWO support reps tried to tell me it was because i was streaming pandora to my car stereo with the line in port and headphone jack. I knew that was TOTAL BS, and finally a rep in a different dept. agreed with me, said the reps who said that were idiots, and that they can tell you are tethering by like the user agent strings in your computer and the way your phone is communicating with the network. Im sorta dissapointed about their crackdown, but i was clearly in the wrong, violating my contract, probably breaking several laws. AT&T is cracking down on tetherers not to be mean, but to keep the network flowing smooth and provide the best, most reliable wireless service in america. In short my POV comes from the simple fact that radio towers are like garden hoses, only so much data can flow through at once. Mobile broadband was not designed for high loads that tethering puts on them, it was designed to allow a cellular phone to recieve and transmit data OTA. As new technology comes out (3g, 4g, etc.) the networks are able to handle more and more, in the future i can see mobile broadband replacing DSL and Satellite internet. Especially as 4G gets established. The reason AT&T has a reputation for poor service in metropolitian areas is because of the high load on the towers. Im sure every single tower in NYC is overloaded, especially during morning and evening commutes, just look at all the people sucking water through the garden hose

Or......they just want everyone off the unlimited plan to get more money? Its always about the money.
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and finally a rep in a different dept. agreed with me, said the reps who said that were idiots, and that they can tell you are tethering by like the user agent strings in your computer and the way your phone is communicating with the network.
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If they are using the browser user-agent to identify people who are tethering, doesn't that mean that they are looking at the information you are sending/recieving? That packet could just as easily have a credit card number instead of a user-agent string (assuming you are using a shady site that doesn't encrypt it to begin with).
Can anyone confirm/deny if this would constitute wiretapping and thus be illegal?

I would think that if they're looking into your data deep enough to see the agent string, that they could easily look at other data, too. I would be interested in knowing if it's legal for them to do that.
Also, if they're checking up on you by looking at your data, I would think that you could defeat that by using an encrypted proxy. I would be very interested in knowing if anybody has tested any of these approaches and knows for sure what AT&T is up to and what we can do about it.

I think that the user agent is included plaintext initially before the encryption starts. I may wrong on that point though. I have sent a query to att about this and we will see what they say.
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It really makes me sick when people defend the mobile carriers. "If you don't like it leave." Ya like that is really possible for many people. Ever heard of a 2 yr contract and termination fees?
Look if you are tethering you should pay for it, I agree. However, saying that using your Bluetooth is considered tethering your data is absurd.
The government needs to get involved quickly and regulate the mobile industry with more than just taxes. How about some regulation that protects the customer?
Clearly there is some type of oligopoly going on.
At&t is forcing everyone with a smartphone to have a data plan. That is fine if you have a new contract with a subsidized phone, however At&t continues to force you to pay for a data plan even when your 2 yr contract is up. Even if you buy a phone at full retail with no subsidy, as soon as they detect a smartphone on their network they will add a mandatory data plan on your account. You don't like it? You have no choice, the industry is price-fixing, policy-fixing, and a slew of other unethical practices and the government is letting it happen.
It's like the heads of these companies got together in a secret meeting and planned out this entire thing. Let's charge crazy fees and have crazy policies, let's lock them in for 2 years, and when they get fed up with me and want to switch to you, they will see you do the same exact thing! Having no choices, no competition, it's going to make us rich.
Did you hear what T-mobile UK has done? Read this from Wikipedia and prepare to be shocked:
"Effective February 1, 2011 T-Mobile UK lowered their fair-use capacity limit on Internet usage from 3GB to 500MB per month and clarified that Internet access using their mobile broadband service in reality only allows browsing the Internet using static websites. T-Mobile says:
"Browsing means looking at websites and checking email, but not watching videos, downloading files or playing games. We've got a fair use policy but ours means that you'll always be able to browse the Internet, it's only when you go over the fair use amount that you won't be able to download, stream and watch video clips."
Soon the U.S. carriers will do this. That Youtube video you watch or music you listen to, ya that's not a static site sorry! Aww you are going to complain and cry and switch carriers? Be my guest because we already had a secret meeting and we all put this policy in place. Plus we decided to increase prices just for the fun of it. Also next year we decided you are going to sign your life over.
I wish I was exaggerating but this is how bad the industry is getting.
Imagine how great things will get when the At&t and T-Mobile merger goes through. The 4th largest carrier will be out of the picture, At&t will be larger than ever, they will increase prices and make absurd policy demands. Verizon will LOVE IT because they will do the same thing, and when customers complain they will laugh and laugh and laugh and tell you "You can switch to At&t, oh wait they do the same thing!" Then they swill spit in your face.

Once this happens I will get rid of my smartphone and instead get a feature phone

Enabling the Tethering App (hotspot) on Verizon Galaxy s5

Has anyone figured out the best way to enable the wifi tethering capability?
I know on the s4, all the roms came out with this feature, it seems the s5 is still not rooted yet, what is everyone using, exploit or app?

this has been posted, but the best way to accomplish this right now without root is with FoxFi ( paid as far as i know and use now ) .. then USB or Bluetooth tether. you can then while tethered activate "wifi share" for your wifi devices. ..... if there is another method please someone post it!

verizon s5 are not allowed to do it..

Wow, what in the world is going on here...
Verizon may have made their last move. I just bought my phone with new 2 year contract, can i return and cancel my contract within a certain time period or am I inevitably effed?
I can not and will not put up with anymore of big Red's nazi ways, I am paying for a service and at the price im paying more than justifies my using of said service in any and every way that i want. If this does not get resolved soon, its a deal breaker for me and verizon. Not that it will make any difference...
and I hate that it would essentially make me move to a lesser carrier with less coverage and internet speed, but big red is starting to do that guv'mint thinking and i dont like where this is headed.

inebriat3d said:
this has been posted, but the best way to accomplish this right now without root is with FoxFi ( paid as far as i know and use now ) .. then USB or Bluetooth tether. you can then while tethered activate "wifi share" for your wifi devices. ..... if there is another method please someone post it!
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donkey poo!!!
I require a real wifi tether, usb and bluetooth are too restrictive and time consuming.
I hope a few of the more experienced devs can chime in on whether this is something to wait for or just return/sell the device immediately?

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Wow, what in the world is going on here...
Verizon may have made their last move. I just bought my phone with new 2 year contract, can i return and cancel my contract within a certain time period or am I inevitably effed?
I can not and will not put up with anymore of big Red's nazi ways, I am paying for a service and at the price im paying more than justifies my using of said service in any and every way that i want. If this does not get resolved soon, its a deal breaker for me and verizon. Not that it will make any difference...
and I hate that it would essentially make me move to a lesser carrier with less coverage and internet speed, but big red is starting to do that guv'mint thinking and i dont like where this is headed.
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If you have one of their new plans which I'm assuming you do since you upgraded, you absolutely can use native hotspot. I ran it yesterday. You have to turn it on via settings instead of the traditional way of tapping the Wi-Fi app.
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Settings->More networks->Mobile hotspot

tpike said:
If you have one of their new plans which I'm assuming you do since you upgraded, you absolutely can use native hotspot. I ran it yesterday. You have to turn it on via settings instead of the traditional way of tapping the Wi-Fi app.
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I upgraded, and paid full price for it....

kprice8 said:
I upgraded, and paid full price for it....
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Did you try the method 2 posts up?
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No. For the reason of having unlimited data.
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I gave up the unlimited data plan and went with the Share Everything with 6gb of data. I did an analysis of my data usage for the past year and found that I never used more than 2gb a month. The unlimited talk and text is more important to me than unlimited data. Although I use the web quite a bit on the phone, I use wifi at home and at work, so it limits my 4G data usage substantially.
Verizon will eventually find a way to eliminate unlimited data altogether, or with some of the new Internet legislation being pushed throttle the bandwidth to the point that it's useless.
I don't understand what people are doing to use 30gb a month or higher unless you are using the plan as your home ISP service connecting multiple devices, or streaming movies all day long.

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I gave up the unlimited data plan and went with the Share Everything with 6gb of data. I did an analysis of my data usage for the past year and found that I never used more than 2gb a month. The unlimited talk and text is more important to me than unlimited data. Although I use the web quite a bit on the phone, I use wifi at home and at work, so it limits my 4G data usage substantially.
Verizon will eventually find a way to eliminate unlimited data altogether, or with some of the new Internet legislation being pushed throttle the bandwidth to the point that it's useless.
I don't understand what people are doing to use 30gb a month or higher unless you are using the plan as your home ISP service connecting multiple devices, or streaming movies all day long.
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I have Verizon Home Fusion for home internet and I do not have wifi at work. Largest amount of data I can subscribe to per month is 30GB/month, for my home. I'm too far off the road for cable, DSL, and I didn't want Satellite (which still has limits).
I'm grandfathered into unlimited. I use about 30 GB a month tethering, mostly updates for the XBOX One, downloading stuff from the usenet, streaming Netflix or HBO Go to my iPad when I'm at my camper, which is in the woods.
I hope you have an understanding now of how someone can use 30 GB per month.

On an average month, prior to acquiring my GS5, I was using about 45gb of data. That's web surfing, PC and Xbox 360 gaming, and streaming videos. On HEAVY months, I was up around 75gb of data used. My lightest month to date of data usage was 29gb of data. No way in heck I am giving up my unlimited when I have no home landline internet.. This IS my salvation.

Well in response to the OP and to others who may be confused, WIFI tether (as well as bluetooth and usb) is built in and available as long as you have the share everything plan. Until we get root there will be no native wifi hack. I've been told a talented dev has an s5 in hand, i bet it wont be too long until root is achieved, after which native hacks will be forthcoming

It takes time, has anyone here had the s4 before the s5? Do you recommend me to get the s4 or s5? I'm looking to upgrade but I have to pay full price for the phone because I use about 100 gb every month, the only two things that make me doubt is that wifi tether is not posible yet and since I eat my fingernails I can't open the usb with my fingers on the S5 lmao

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It takes time, has anyone here had the s4 before the s5? Do you recommend me to get the s4 or s5? I'm looking to upgrade but I have to pay full price for the phone because I use about 100 gb every month, the only two things that make me doubt is that wifi tether is not posible yet and since I eat my fingernails I can't open the usb with my fingers on the S5 lmao
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On that note, (heh) if you wanted to, and I wanted to, but was talked out of by a dumb BBY mobile rep, was getting the Note 3 which is rootable.

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Well in response to the OP and to others who may be confused, WIFI tether (as well as bluetooth and usb) is built in and available as long as you have the share everything plan. Until we get root there will be no native wifi hack. I've been told a talented dev has an s5 in hand, i bet it wont be too long until root is achieved, after which native hacks will be forthcoming
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Thanks for your reply but I need to activate on the unlimited plan and although when I'm home I don't use that much but when traveling it sure is much cheaper than paying 7-20 bucks a day for WiFi access in some places.... not having root is no good in this particular case especially because I rely on it for work and has never been an issue until now. And giving more money to Verizon is not an options unlimited is already 125 per month
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On that note, (heh) if you wanted to, and I wanted to, but was talked out of by a dumb BBY mobile rep, was getting the Note 3 which is rootable.
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I'm currently still using my n3 cause it's rooted and running my rom. It's got Wi-Fi tether hacked as do most roms.
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What I would do if I were you. Put your 4G SIM card back in your old device until root becomes available. That way you have the Wifi Tether and can use your Unlimited data. And at the same time you can use your S5 for all your apps and such. But use the old device for calling and texting. Just my suggestion. You are lucky, I would never give up that unlimited plan. And these devs are extremely clever you'll have Wifi Tethering on your S5 in no time.

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What I would do if I were you. Put your 4G SIM card back in your old device until root becomes available. That way you have the Wifi Tether and can use your Unlimited data. And at the same time you can use your S5 for all your apps and such. But use the old device for calling and texting. Just my suggestion. You are lucky, I would never give up that unlimited plan. And these devs are extremely clever you'll have Wifi Tethering on your S5 in no time.
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Not an option. Took BestBuy up on their trade in offer. Didn't consider this at the time. But for the future, now I will know better...

tether without root

Hi all
I have the old unlimited plan that does not allow tethering. I have been trying to find a solution that would work without root. So far nothing has worked for me. Not even foxfi that people day works with Verizon has worked. Has anyone figured out a way to do this? Other than this one thing missing, I love the phone and find no reason to want to root it even at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

M9x3mos said:
Hi all
I have the old unlimited plan that does not allow tethering. I have been trying to find a solution that would work without root. So far nothing has worked for me. Not even foxfi that people day works with Verizon has worked. Has anyone figured out a way to do this? Other than this one thing missing, I love the phone and find no reason to want to root it even at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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have you try PDAnet

Haven't tried that yet. Was hoping for a wireless solution but that can work in some instances too. Usually use it for my tablet more than a computer but worth a shot.

M9x3mos said:
Haven't tried that yet. Was hoping for a wireless solution but that can work in some instances too. Usually use it for my tablet more than a computer but worth a shot.
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I am waiting on my S7e but I put it on my tablet TAB A and it has a wireless hotspot, so yeah you can do it wirelessly. I should receive the S7e monday. I had it but had to return as i was on a lease and I wanted to get the BOGO promo. and now it was backorder.

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to run any differently. Enables but the connected device still goes to the up sell page.

M9x3mos said:
Hi all
I have the old unlimited plan that does not allow tethering. I have been trying to find a solution that would work without root. So far nothing has worked for me. Not even foxfi that people day works with Verizon has worked. Has anyone figured out a way to do this? Other than this one thing missing, I love the phone and find no reason to want to root it even at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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you should pay for it.... and stop giving the rest of us a bad name by stealing data....
Just my opinion

That's the thing. I can't pay for it. They won't give me the option to even if I wanted to. I have the unlimited data plan but for my rate plan they never added the option to tether to mine and won't. I'm still paying for unlimited data though.

Switch plans new unlimited plans comes with 14gb free tethering other than that your SOL

I would if they would let me keep my @home phone line on the new plan but they won't. I need that more than I need tethering. Only use it for work email and reading on my tablet on occasion the computer.

Depends on what you're tethering. I had the S7 for a week and a half and used pdanet (returned it due to lack of root) to tether to my laptop. On my laptop browser I used opera browser with a user agent switcher (Safari for windows) and it worked fine, no upsell, mobile hot spot data not affected. When tethering with Pdanet to a phone however my hot spot data got dinged.
Tethering to a phone or Tab You'll most likely need root and WiFi Tether Router.
Hope that helps. Don't forget to create a new APN with ipv4 in both fields.

M9x3mos said:
That's the thing. I can't pay for it. They won't give me the option to even if I wanted to. I have the unlimited data plan but for my rate plan they never added the option to tether to mine and won't. I'm still paying for unlimited data though.
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You're paying for unlimited data on your smartphone as defined in the ToS.
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge

PDXMatt said:
You're paying for unlimited data on your smartphone as defined in the ToS.
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
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The terms of service don't really specify that anywhere that I saw the last time I read it. But because tmobile does not offer the services I need on a plan I am forced to find work arounds. If they would let me keep my at home line and go to a Tethering plan I wouldn't have this problem.

M9x3mos said:
The terms of service don't really specify that anywhere that I saw the last time I read it. But because tmobile does not offer the services I need on a plan I am forced to find work arounds. If they would let me keep my at home line and go to a Tethering plan I wouldn't have this problem.
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You stated that you're on an old data plan that doesn't allow tethering, right? So, the terms you agreed to doesn't allow tethering, correct? We're you made aware of the fact that tethering wasn't included? If so, you know very well that the unlimited data portion of your plan is only for unlimited data on your smartphone.
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge

The plan I have does not say anything on the literature if I could or not anywhere. I could tether without root on my s3 and on my blackberry. Only on newer devices I can't and anytime I talk with tmobile they only say that my plan isn't compatible with my device and I need to get a new plan. The new plan doesn't support at home landlines.

M9x3mos said:
The plan I have does not say anything on the literature if I could or not anywhere. I could tether without root on my s3 and on my blackberry. Only on newer devices I can't and anytime I talk with tmobile they only say that my plan isn't compatible with my device and I need to get a new plan. The new plan doesn't support at home landlines.
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Well get separate plan with tethering or pay for Internet

I would need to buy a Tethering device just for that only if I wanted a separate plan. I only have one cell phone and the at home line on my current plan. If I move my cell to another plan they say I need to cancel the at home line. And I don't want to purchase another device and a new line of service at over 40 a month just for the few times and little amount I use it just because their system won't let me keep my at home line to get a plan that is supposedly compatible with my phone to tether.

New Verizon Unlimited, tethering question

People who have the grandfathered unlimited data plan and have an unlocked Nexus 6p can bypass Verizon's tethering restriction (ie tether without paying extra).
My question is for anyone who has an unlocked phone like the 6p and has the new Verizon Unlimited plan: can Verizon detect the 10GB of tethering then throw you to 3G? Or is it not detectable because there's no Verizon software on your phone?
In other words: is the 10GB tether limit detected locally on your phone or on Verizon's end?

I was actually wondering this exact same thing, if anyone happens to know.
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I just switched from grandfathered to the new unlimited. They cannot detect tethering at all as they do not have their software on the phone.
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How are you bypassing the hotspot detection? Are you using a simple Entitlement bypass the using the standard hotspot that is part of Android, or something different?
Are you sure Verizon is not detecting it? Because there are ways--other than using Verizon apps for the hotspot--for Verizon to detect that your phone is being used as a hotspot.

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How are you bypassing the hotspot detection? Are you using a simple Entitlement bypass the using the standard hotspot that is part of Android, or something different?
Are you sure Verizon is not detecting it? Because there are ways--other than using Verizon apps for the hotspot--for Verizon to detect that your phone is being used as a hotspot.
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By simply turning on the tethering option in settings.

And you're sure this prevents Verizon from seeing it?

I almost created a new thread asking this question, but then I saw my questions was already asked.
Can we confirm that the new 10gb tethering cap is undetectable on VZW Unlimited plan?

wow i was thinking about switching from tmobile unlimited cuz they be detecting me to bypass i use pdanet with cable to hide tether and it works 100%. But I wanted to make the switch to verizon unlimited it's just that I'm paying 50$ a month for unlimited tmobile

I was also just browsing the Pixel Q&A and it seems some of them are having trouble getting tethering on VZW with the Pixel. I'm on a "grandfathered" unlimited VZW plan and tethering works no problem for me, no hack or tricks need, just use the built in hotspot.
I wonder if some of the Pixel users having problems got their phones from Verizon, thinking maybe the phones that came direct from Google don't have the VZW software that tracks tethering.

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I was also just browsing the Pixel Q&A and it seems some of them are having trouble getting tethering on VZW with the Pixel. I'm on a "grandfathered" unlimited VZW plan and tethering works no problem for me, no hack or tricks need, just use the built in hotspot.
I wonder if some of the Pixel users having problems got their phones from Verizon, thinking maybe the phones that came direct from Google don't have the VZW software that tracks tethering.
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It's probably phones from Verizon.
I tether with my 6P on 7.1.2 and have since I got it new with 6.x.
Verizon doesn't do what AT&T and other to do to detect tethering.
I have tethered all my phones for years without Verizon noticing..

Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)

I can tell you Verizon can and does detect tethering no matter the phone or plan.... But can't really stop it on the grandfathered unlimited plans. It's usually small fish to fry for them at this point. With their stance on 100gb a month or they cancel you has pretty much eliminated the big abusers (I pass No judgment as I just last week finally ditched my grandfathered udp). In the pixel they provided block after block if you were not an early purchaser and used depixel8 to unlock the bootloader from firewaterdevs. @ Jan 17 a Google update finally put a stop to depixel8 (it was after all a bootloader security flaw) and if you purchased a pixel from VZW that had been updated to 7.1.1 you were SOL. There have been some tricks to pop the sim card in and out to enable tethering but many were difficult and the timing had to be precise. I am/was a pixel owner..... Back to my N6p. Daughter got my wife's S7, she took my pixel since the 6p is too big for her liking.
While the pixel requires a bootloader unlock to root and enable tethering or install a custom ROM done for you already.... The 6p is VERY different from the pixel as far as it never being a Verizon issued phone as well as not having the split A/B partition (you'll all find out about that on your next upgrade) VZW is well aware of your tethering usage. Just a matter of making an issue out of it....which unless you are using it as your home wifi.......there are fewer and fewer grandfathered plans left to bother with.
I tethered while traveling with the kids and the largest data amount I ever tethered was 25gb. Usually more in the 10-12 range. I finally gave up the UDP because to add a phone for my kid (middle school now) it would have cost 30 more for data and I would have only gotten 2gb for her. With 3 lines on new "unlimited" I pay $15 less than I was paying. I'm not upgrading to the higher unlimited plan until I need to travel again. Right now I've seen zero difference in my service but I'm definitely keeping an eye on it. Honestly on a 5inch screen it's not a big deal to have dvd quality vs HD. Once my wife's contract ends in March from the S7 subsidized purchase 18 months ago we'll upgrade to the higher UDP with the 15gb tethering cap.
My only question is that 15gb per line tethering or per plan?

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Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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I also received the text alert and email. throttling appears to be set at 600kbs as per the email. using pdanet to limp along till theres a better solution.

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I also received the text alert and email. throttling appears to be set at 600kbs as per the email. using pdanet to limp along till theres a better solution.
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Me as well (using pdanet), I have satellite internet as I am outside of City limits. Frustrating Verizon is regressing rather than progressing. Mainly due to greed.

imitebewrong said:
Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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I ditched my GUDP last month based on the info from this thread. I used over 30GB of tethering last month, and Verizon shows I used 0GB for tethering. I was excited until this month, as I just got a text that I hit 15GB of tethering and I'm throttled at 600kbs now. Something else I noticed is that when I log into my Verizon account, it shows I'm currently using a Huawei - H1511. If I remember correctly, Verizon couldn't recognize it was a Huawei phone on my account up until now.
Can anyone confirm if using PDA Net or ClockworkMod Tether works around this limitation? The free trials are too limited to fully test them out, and I don't want to purchase the paid version of the apps if I'll be stuck with the same tethering limitations of the stock hotspot.
Thanks!

Pda-Net works Via USB to PC, as for CWM I don't know.

imitebewrong said:
Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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Ditto on this. I'm now really regretting having moved away from the grandfather plan.

Thank you all for posting, you’ve convinced me to keep gUDP. I am tethering in excess of 1TB per billing cycle. On contract of course. Now to extend the contract...

Found a fix!
I feel silly for not having found this sooner.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/enable-free-wifi-tethering-android-marshmallow-0167832/
tldr;
add
Code:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
to your /system/build.prop file and reboot
Just tested with my new unlimited plan and can confirm I'm now back above the 600kbps mark!!
Lineage OS 14.1 on Axon 7
Edit: Nevermind. I'm not sure what I did the other day but I can't recreate this.

So I hit my 15gb hotspot tether limit on the new verizon " unlimited" plan , I then was limited to ~600kbps as described in the fine print , I however can confirm that if I connect pc via usb or wifi hotspot and place pc or other tethered device on a vpn such as Private internet access I am able to then able to get normal speed ~15mbs I also streamed youtube in 1440p for testing for ~10mins . I will test tonight with my 4k tv watching netflix and see if I can continue past the 22gb limit and still get UHD streaming . FYI im on ipad and iphone , host device does not seem to matter the trick is the device connected to the hotspot must be on a vpn that does not use split tunneling .