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The Samsung Galaxy S and the Samsung Wave s8500 are practically twins with the Galaxy S using a bigger screen and the Android OS.
Problem is the Android Powered Samsung Galaxy S is almost two times the cost of the samsung wave s8500!
Now i dont know whether this is a tactical ploy by samsung to promote its own inhouse BADA operating system but the price difference between the two phones is really an eye opener.
The good android phones and the Iphones are a bit too expensive for my taste costing as much as an entry level laptop.
Now samsung came up with the Samsung Wave s8500 which has all the power of the More expensive Smasung galaxy S
yet at only 60 percent of the price.
granted the samsung galaxy s has a larger screen and uses Android but thats about it.
BADA however has only 150 applications and most of them useless.
Only a few good games and most games dont even use the 3d capabilities of the
wave's powervr sgx 535.
- Both phones use the The 1ghz hummingbird processor
- (Cortex A8 processor PLUS a powervr sgx 535.. much better combo than the qualcomm snapdragon processor)
- Both Phones have 5 meg cameras PLUS 720p recording
- Both use super Amoled Screens with the bigger screen going to to the Samsung galaxy S
- Both have 512mb of system memory
- I just dont get it why the Samsung Galaxy S costs almost twice the samsung wave 8500
- Maybe Samsung did this intentionally knowing most people would go for the cheaper yet identically spec-ed phone suppoting their own BAda OS.
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Still since the hardware under the hood is so similar is it possible to port the Android OS from the samsung galaxy to the samsung wave 8500?
I just like the samsung wave's price better
(prices for Samsung galaxy s in my country 32,000 pesos or 687.433 USD
Samsung Wave S8500 in my country 18,300 pesos or 393.464 USD)
Prices are for brand new units, openline, with One year Samsung Warranty
bong4316 said:
(mods i posted this originally at the general forum can you please delete the thread in the general forum?)
The Samsung Galaxy S and the Samsung Wave s8500 are practically twins with the Galaxy S using a bigger screen and the Android OS.
Problem is the Android Powered Samsung Galaxy S is almost two times the cost of the samsung wave s8500!
Now i dont know whether this is a tactical ploy by samsung to promote its own inhouse BADA operating system but the price difference between the two phones is really an eye opener.
The good android phones and the Iphones are a bit too expensive for my taste costing as much as an entry level laptop.
Now samsung came up with the Samsung Wave s8500 which has all the power of the More expensive Smasung galaxy S
yet at only 60 percent of the price.
granted the samsung galaxy s has a larger screen and uses Android but thats about it.
BADA however has only 150 applications and most of them useless.
Only a few good games and most games dont even use the 3d capabilities of the
wave's powervr sgx 535.
- Both phones use the The 1ghz hummingbird processor
- (Cortex A8 processor PLUS a powervr sgx 535.. much better combo than the qualcomm snapdragon processor)
- Both Phones have 5 meg cameras PLUS 720p recording
- Both use super Amoled Screens with the bigger screen going to to the Samsung galaxy S
- Both have 512mb of system memory
- I just dont get it why the Samsung Galaxy S costs almost twice the samsung wave 8500
- Maybe Samsung did this intentionally knowing most people would go for the cheaper yet identically spec-ed phone suppoting their own BAda OS.
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Still since the hardware under the hood is so similar is it possible to port the Android OS from the samsung galaxy to the samsung wave 8500?
I just like the samsung wave's price better
(prices for Samsung galaxy s in my country 32,000 pesos or 687.433 USD
Samsung Wave S8500 in my country 18,300 pesos or 393.464 USD)
Prices are for brand new units, openline, with One year Samsung Warranty
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Samsung Wave s8500: 3.3 inch AMOLED touchscreen display
Samsung Galaxy S: 4 inch AMOLED touchscreen display
That is a whole lot of screen difference
Also the S has 8 gig's of internal space
Upgraded data antenna's, there is differences.
It might be possible to throw an android os on since most of the differences are not really part of the core computing chipset. Still you can never be to sure if it's going to happen or not.
Some corrections..
The graphics chip is a PowerVR SGX540, not 535.
The 535 is the one that Apple has in their A4 chipset.
This is good thinking.. to top it off, I go feel that the wave's built is better.
Only if someone could crack open the device..
It will never happen.
kenkiller said:
It will never happen.
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why do u think so?
Someone saying with it will never happen , just wait and see IT WILL HAPPEN its just matter of time. I can,t believe you being so skeptic. Are you open source guy or Paid Samsung Member
Just because you want it to happen doesn't mean it will. There is more to porting over the OS then just a little bit of coding. You must first assess what you're dealing with in terms of driver comparability and what source material you have compiled from all your resources. Then you got to put in the long time of writing tons of new code without ever really knowing if it would work. If you get someone to figure out how its possible and thinks its a worthy project then you might have a shot but I really doubt the right person would spend there time on this
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You are maybe right. i will give the wave to someone and go buy a android phone instead of wasting time. thanks
Its not using a 540 checkout pdabase site its using a powervr 535.
The samsung galaxy s and the wave s8500 are using 90 percent the same hardware.
Samsung has posted a link in their website where people can download the source code of the galaxy s.
If android 2.1 was ported to a touch diamond whats stopping the use of the samsung galaxy s source code to be applied on the wave s8500?
Even the bada os on the wave s8500 is based on linux.
The phones can probably dualboot too
either a port is needed ... or cross compiling libraries but before that bada os source ... if it ever comes out .. and finally haret.exe compatibility to actually start testing ...
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Its not using a 540 checkout pdabase site its using a powervr 535.
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Are you sure? I was thinking it was a 540
Super-amped to get Android on the Samsung Wave
Hi guys
I would be very interested in getting android on the Samsung Wave. The phone has some awesome hardware and is priced very competitively. It is just held back by its first generation bada os right now. As someone already said, the Wave shares 90% of its hardware with the Galaxy S/i9000 which runs android. The screens may not be the same size but the resolutions are both the same.
Hopefully an awesome developer will take up the challenge of being the first one to successfully port android to a bada phone. I wait in hope.
should be a 540, and it would seem highly possible for a port, however not many devs have purchased the Wave and you could be facing a lack of developers.
As far as I know, Samsung have held numerous bada developer days around the world. The devs that attended each received a Samsung Wave. Hopefully one of these devs knows how to go about porting android to the Wave.
Bada is a new OS, so I think it will take a while before devs work their heads around how the OS works. I shall just have to be patient and hope that there is someone out there that is up for the challenge. I wish I had the necessary skills to do it myself. How does one go about learning the ropes?
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Samsung Wave s8500: 3.3 inch AMOLED touchscreen display
Samsung Galaxy S: 4 inch AMOLED touchscreen display
That is a whole lot of screen difference
Also the S has 8 gig's of internal space
Upgraded data antenna's, there is differences.
It might be possible to throw an android os on since most of the differences are not really part of the core computing chipset. Still you can never be to sure if it's going to happen or not.
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Well, they have a different size, but the same resolution, so there should be no problem with the screen. In the worst case all buttons would be to small, but i don't think so..
loosa2k said:
Well, they have a different size, but the same resolution, so there should be no problem with the screen. In the worst case all buttons would be to small, but i don't think so..
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Nope everythings too big on Gal S anyway
I wonder if they have download/recovery modes, someone with a Wave should test it out. The build quality on wave is quite good but design of it turns me off
ickyboo said:
I wonder if they have download/recovery modes, someone with a Wave should test it out. The build quality on wave is quite good but design of it turns me off
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In terms of build quality, the Wave is wwaaaayyy better than the plastic feel of the Galaxy S. I like the metal finish at the back of Samsung Wave.
BTW, they have already talked about porting Android to Wave in badaforums.net for quite a while back.
Yes that's right, mini version.
Haha
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s2_mini-3883.php
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Yes that's right, mini version.
Haha
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s2_mini-3883.php
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Nééh, just an iphone with a Samsung logo, bad photoshop!!p)
r_a_c said:
Nééh, just an iphone with a Samsung logo, bad photoshop!!p)
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I see it lol. But there will probably be galaxy s2 mini
yes this is ancient news whats funny about it...?
1.4Ghz processor... not so funny.
1.4 Ghz single core processor though, not dual core.
its a vicious cycle of iPhone' ish looking phones from samsung...
Is this Samsung answer to Apple's lawsuit?
Surely that image is of the Galaxy Ace?
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi
Just noticed its single core booooo samsung this is basically an overclocked galaxy s
I think the device looks pretty cool. I bought the GSII for its amazing specs and screen, but I'm beginning to think 4.3" is borderline too big. The screen ends up in an inbetween spot where it's still too small to really enjoy video on but too big to be totally comfortable. Not to mention its speed seems wasted since the only thing I've found that it can't do is 1080p software decoding.
A single core hummingbird at 1.4GHz is still fairly quick and 3.7" seems a good size. If it's lighter than the GSII, a similar thickness, and cheaper I can see it being pretty appealing.
Not that I'm going to switch now though, too used to the speed.
Not Galaxy S II mini, but Galaxy S Plus. Same specs, different name. Doesn't make any sense to release two phones with almost same specs.
Just to let you know. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9001_galaxy_s_plus-3908.php
PS: GS+ is official, GS2 mini on the other hand, isn't
Announced or not I still expect them to release a Galaxy S II Mini if only for branding purposes. The GSII has a lot of hype right now while naming something after the original just makes it look old.
Just because the specs are similar doesn't necessarily mean the GSII Mini won't be released. Firstly they have different screen sizes and design which might be enough of a differentiator. Also they may be released in different geographical regions.
Guys, I present to you, what will probably be the closest thing to a Galaxy S2 Mini we'll probably ever get.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_plus_preview-review-604.php
:/
daivik said:
Guys, I present to you, what will probably be the closest thing to a Galaxy S2 Mini we'll probably ever get.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_plus_preview-review-604.php
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A Snapdragon CPU? Strange. Any particular reason they aren't using Hummingbird?
Didn't some region in the world get the original Samsung Galaxy S with an overclocked 1.4GHz Hummingbird proc? Possibly this is using the same proc? I've had a number of friends extremely impressed with my SGS2 but their main concern was the phone being too big so a mini version would have been ideal for that share of the market. If they used the same Exynos proc then it would have been just as quick as well making it an awesome choice.
However, all this is just a rumour so time will tell what actually happens.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=3621
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4135&idPhone2=3621
What is your opinions about those new phones?
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why did they change the processor ?!?!!
aren't they slapping early adopters in the face with that move ?
or is it the same processor just overclocked to 1.5 ...
the phone came out about 4 months ago why bump the specs SO early....
anyways great phones, Samsung is really aiming high with these
look at the weight... galaxy s2 is still the lightest of them
maddada said:
why did they change the processor ?!?!!
aren't they slapping early adopters in the face with that move ?
or is it the same processor just overclocked to 1.5 ...
the phone came out about 4 months ago why bump the specs SO early....
anyways great phones, Samsung is really aiming high with these
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I'm guessing their going with Qualcomm because atm, their chip is the only one that supports LTE (at least in the US). Samsung might be working on an Exynos chip that can handle LTE but that hasn't been announced yet.
The Note is sporting a 1.4Ghz Exynos processor. Sexy beast w/ the Super Amoled HD screen! 5.3in. Screen, gorgeous!
jlevy73 said:
I'm guessing their going with Qualcomm because atm, their chip is the only one that supports LTE (at least in the US). Samsung might be working on an Exynos chip that can handle LTE but that hasn't been announced yet.
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I did read somewhere Note comes with Exynos chip clocked at 1.4 ghz and surely has LTE
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note/spec.html
I mind says choose S II LTE while the heart says its got to be Note.
All three are the best in class smartphones. May be I could keep all three
I hope it will be a Galaxy S III
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Hmm, i don't feel like hitting the like button. My GS2 running at [email protected] with the official Samsung extended battery feels no envy at all
The soc is still the same afaik, this sounds like a cheap screen size buff to me. Anyway i'm pretty sure this will sell well in the US: it seems like people don't mind carrying a desktop pc in their pockets there
My galaxy s2 probably still in my pocket.
If Galaxy Note has stereo mic with noise reduction and can be installed voodoo control and it's super amoled hd plus i can sell my gs2 and buy it.
But i don't think it has all of them.. maybe none.
Hope for Nexus Prime...
The Samsung Note has me won over by the 2500 mah battery.
I'll keep my s2, not only because its new but more into my needs of the device.
Its a different things with an improvement from the 7 to 7'7gtab
Its an art of technology development
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As you undoubtedly know, samsung has said Note will not be released in the US
Sgs2 screen is big enough and I cant see development being anywhere near as big for the others. Android runs smooth as butter with the sgs2 anyways. Cant see any reason in the near future for an upgrade
How about having a Wolfson audio chip inside Galaxy Note !!! with 5.3 inch screen it looks gorgeous. Well my biggest question is SUPER AMOLED PLUS vs SUPER AMOLED HD. I am sure letters are more readable with 285 ppi on the HD screen but what about the colors are they as bright as PLUS on HD screen. I hope so.
With a Wolfson audio chip and Super saturated HD screen i would go for the Galaxy Note. I love big screen's.
intruda119 said:
The Samsung Note has me won over by the 2500 mah battery.
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Be aware that there'se an official 2000mah battery for the GS2: it's doesn't even add bulk, it just makes the phone all thick as it already is at its bottom. I got it today and it rocks. Too bad the phone doesn't fit anymore in the case now...
GSG2 LTE sounds good. I can't wait til its released. I hoping it works on ATT. Didn't get SGS2 but kind of glad now. We have LTE launched in Houston but i don't know how good it is. Anyways still going to try it out once released.
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all three size comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLlciuWyj6k
Seriously,if Note is better anyway, I will probably wait for nexus Prime
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Im looking forward to NOTE, if i like it (and its size) when i take it in my hands, its very likely that ill give my SGS2 to my girl and take NOTE for me
dont forget the note has a higher resoloution and bigger screen to power and its also overclocked to 1.4ghz with probably quite high voltages
i would say you may get equal battery life out of the sgs2 with 2000mah battery and overclocking and undervolting
of course that only matters if you want the note for the battery i can see the appeal of the device it would make so many things even better like media viewing , web browsing , sat nav etc but at the same time it may be just to big for my pockets i would have to hold it before making that judgement though saying that i am happy with my sgs2 and dont see the point in upgrading , its just a sideways step there will be much better coming real soon and they will be forwards steps like quad core etc
i dont think with that screen the battery will be much different to the 2000mah genuine one that you can buy for the sgs2 this device will rock for people who want an even bigger sgs2 though good too see samsung covering all aspects of the market
Well as 99% of you know the SIII has been launched, with a whole host of software features.
What are the chances of us getting some of these features? A couple that appeal to me are the Music Hub (newer less usless version) and the new dongle that mirror to the TV.
It'd be great to get these features.
(Could this be the reason ICS got delayed?)
We gets the hubs for music, movies and the others.
Faceunlock but if u close your eyes and the screen goes off this feature is only for sgs3 and the videofrature too.
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We'll never have them 'cause the s3 was "designed for humans" and the note was designed for aliens lol
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I would like to see the improved camera software for our Note, such as faster shutter speed (current speed annoys me compared to my SGS1 Epic 4G which has a super fast shutter) and 3.3 second between shots.
I'm very interested in the AllShare Cast wireless streaming dongle.
I can't see any reason it wouldn't be offered for the Note, or any modern Samsung device for that matter.
CreepyDroid said:
We'll never have them 'cause the s3 was "designed for humans" and the note was designed for aliens lol
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maybe not aliens.. but gods...
nah, just kiddin
Yes well get all of them....cept that really crappy sIII feature: that 4'8" screen.
CGI_Ram said:
I'm very interested in the AllShare Cast wireless streaming dongle.
I can't see any reason it wouldn't be offered for the Note, or any modern Samsung device for that matter.
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i really want wireless display mirroring too!
hope our NOTE meet the hardware requirement....
We will get all of them soon...Just give our devs couple of months
What about the Siri clone? You think we will get it?
Well, if we do get it (and im sure eventually in time it will be), the only thing that I'm pretty sure we won't ever get is NFC... (this is after all the International Note version thread), this needs the hardware part... which I'm pretty sure our Note lacks the better part of it as well.
I feel like a good chunk if not almost all of these features could be ported to our Notes. Seeing as they've said that the quad core Exynos is supposed to be pin for pin identical to the dual cores in the fact that they can be changed out without having to alter your design I'd have to think the whole setup is similar, but I'm just guessing. The biggest thing I've been wondering about is with the whole zero shutter lag. Is it possible to port or give our older phones this ability? I don't know if new hardware is physically required or if it's all software? If my Note could have zero shutter lag, or even much faster shutter speeds and ICS. I'm perfectly happy without the SIII.
rayarny said:
We will get all of them soon...Just give our devs couple of months
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Yup, that's true:
http://opendesign.blamesamsung.org
It would be interesting if they held the Note's ICS update back, so they can show off all the new features on their flagship first. Rather than the S3 announcement essentially being; 'Its got all the features of the Note but its smaller and has no SPen'
AETAaAS said:
It would be interesting if they held the Note's ICS update back, so they can show off all the new features on their flagship first. Rather than the S3 announcement essentially being; 'Its got all the features of the Note but its smaller and has no SPen'
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Whilst I'm not a fan of threads such as this (prefer waiting), you are likely on the money. With 3 million Notes sold and S3 launch, you don't want to steal the new arrivals thunder!
Nexus S ICS was on Google Employees handsets for ages before publically released as Google needed to get units of Galaxy Nexus shifted.
Any timeframe extension the inhouse devs might have been given to allow for the launch of the S3 (in developing ICS mainstream Samsung build, Note extras and other device specific extras for say S2 for example) can only be a good thing.
duowing said:
I feel like a good chunk if not almost all of these features could be ported to our Notes. Seeing as they've said that the quad core Exynos is supposed to be pin for pin identical to the dual cores in the fact that they can be changed out without having to alter your design I'd have to think the whole setup is similar, but I'm just guessing. The biggest thing I've been wondering about is with the whole zero shutter lag. Is it possible to port or give our older phones this ability? I don't know if new hardware is physically required or if it's all software? If my Note could have zero shutter lag, or even much faster shutter speeds and ICS. I'm perfectly happy without the SIII.
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You stole the words right out of my mouth.
I personally feel that most of the features should be able to get ported, especially the new TouchWiz Launcher Nature UX. Its essentially got the ICS stock feel with a Widget tab while allowing transparency.
I am hoping to get the ROM ported with features from the note, mainly SMemo stuff over to the note, that would be a delight.
Good Luck Dev's
I am not really impressed with the SIII, I am not saying it's bad rather it's awesome and I would have wanted it on day one had I not had my GNote. 4.8 is still small and it feels awkward saying that.
Coming to your question, who knows it might all be the ICS Update, if not then in Note II definitely.
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This is what i posted in the main ICS thread & this is what I feel..
I think Galaxy note will get ICS updates inline with Galaxy S2 with the addition of premium suite. Both of them are previous years's model.
Galaxy note 2 & Galaxy S3 will have same feature set.
From business point of view if Galaxy note gets the features then Galaxy note 2 will be only a hardware upgrade. Well that wouldnt create the hype would it ?
Regarding porting to our note our devs will certainly turn the magic wheels....
I am leaning towards the PORT and not a Samsung Supported update due to the same reason of Productization and ensuring that the customer can differentiate between the Note and the SGS III, otherwise the Note will win with the features and screen size, but lacking the Quad Core.
I also feel with a complete ICS build running on the Note it probably won't be that much slower than the GSIII despite dual vs. quad. Heck people said it's the same GPU just overclocked right? As for Note 2 I wouldn't be surprised if they introduce some new features. Maybe HD SuperAMOLED+? Wasn't the Note the first Samsung phone to have the HD Screen, GLONASS, S-Pen, etc?
As for some of the new features my Droid Charge which is basically just Galaxy S hardware has the newer launcher, widgets, and some of the features from the Galaxy SII. So I think we could see stuff brought to our Note!!
That's been a trend since the S III and it seems the S 4 is following suit. I guess for lack of time or supply constraints, they can never fit their proprietary designed-ARM based chip onto the phone with all the biggest markets. Most of the biggest markets always get stuck with a middling Qualcomm chip (read up on the differences between the Snapdragon 600 and 800) to make up for the lack of bands their LTE networks have. I'm sure like the Note II, the Note III will have probably figured out how to put an RBG strip on its Full HD AMOLED screen (Pixel arrangement differences could have an effect on color saturation and gamut); as well as a fully compatible Exynos 5 Octa or Snapdragon 800.
For lack of a better description, the S 4 feels like a "test subject", leading up to Samsung's hardware later in the year. I only wish the phone wouldn't be announced in Q1, so by the time it was released in late Q2, maybe it would have access to all of the year's most cutting-edge computational technology. Maybe there's nothing that can be done, but isn't anyone annoyed by this trend of things?
Ever since the Note came out with more than a £100 worth of free downloads and was a massive seller in South Korea I thought the Note family was Samsung's true flagship, I want the S4 lte but I have an N4 so might wait for the Note3 but that's probably 8/9 months away, the economy could be completely screwed by then.
I agree. More innovation seems to come with the note series both in terms of hardware and software.
Regarding the screen, N3 should have a full RGB matrix. The larger screen than S4 but with the same no of pixels should allow them to fit more sub-pixels without having to reduce pixel size. So pen-tile (diamond) should become full RGB- AWESOME.
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I agree. More innovation seems to come with the note series both in terms of hardware and software.
Regarding the screen, N3 should have a full RGB matrix. The larger screen than S4 but with the same no of pixels should allow them to fit more sub-pixels without having to reduce pixel size. So pen-tile (diamond) should become full RGB- AWESOME.
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I guess so, but that's because of different things. hardware wise its because the note has the advantage of coming later, when production of the chipset is already done. The galaxy s series comes out earlier so its harder. As far as software i don't think the note 3 is going to be ridiculous superior to the S IV , it will have a bigger battery and enhanced S pen features but the S IV is already full of features.
Well, it's not like they aren't doing what they can with the phone at the time they release it. It's certainly a worthy upgrade to the S III. They're just so consumed with market share statistics, they're allowing their Galaxy S series to be shafted from all the yearly top specifications, while letting the Note capitalize on them. Maybe some people want a top-end device that's only 5" inches. Being relegated to second-tier is... daunting, to say the least. Waiting to late-April or early May to announce the device, then release it a couple of weeks later in May or June probably would have offered them more material to work with.