(mods i posted this originally at the general forum can you please delete the thread in the general forum?)
The Samsung Galaxy S and the Samsung Wave s8500 are practically twins with the Galaxy S using a bigger screen and the Android OS.
Problem is the Android Powered Samsung Galaxy S is almost two times the cost of the samsung wave s8500!
Now i dont know whether this is a tactical ploy by samsung to promote its own inhouse BADA operating system but the price difference between the two phones is really an eye opener.
The good android phones and the Iphones are a bit too expensive for my taste costing as much as an entry level laptop.
Now samsung came up with the Samsung Wave s8500 which has all the power of the More expensive Smasung galaxy S
yet at only 60 percent of the price.
granted the samsung galaxy s has a larger screen and uses Android but thats about it.
BADA however has only 150 applications and most of them useless.
Only a few good games and most games dont even use the 3d capabilities of the
wave's powervr sgx 535.
- Both phones use the The 1ghz hummingbird processor
- (Cortex A8 processor PLUS a powervr sgx 535.. much better combo than the qualcomm snapdragon processor)
- Both Phones have 5 meg cameras PLUS 720p recording
- Both use super Amoled Screens with the bigger screen going to to the Samsung galaxy S
- Both have 512mb of system memory
- I just dont get it why the Samsung Galaxy S costs almost twice the samsung wave 8500
- Maybe Samsung did this intentionally knowing most people would go for the cheaper yet identically spec-ed phone suppoting their own BAda OS.
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Still since the hardware under the hood is so similar is it possible to port the Android OS from the samsung galaxy to the samsung wave 8500?
I just like the samsung wave's price better
(prices for Samsung galaxy s in my country 32,000 pesos or 687.433 USD
Samsung Wave S8500 in my country 18,300 pesos or 393.464 USD)
Prices are for brand new units, openline, with One year Samsung Warranty
bong4316 said:
(mods i posted this originally at the general forum can you please delete the thread in the general forum?)
The Samsung Galaxy S and the Samsung Wave s8500 are practically twins with the Galaxy S using a bigger screen and the Android OS.
Problem is the Android Powered Samsung Galaxy S is almost two times the cost of the samsung wave s8500!
Now i dont know whether this is a tactical ploy by samsung to promote its own inhouse BADA operating system but the price difference between the two phones is really an eye opener.
The good android phones and the Iphones are a bit too expensive for my taste costing as much as an entry level laptop.
Now samsung came up with the Samsung Wave s8500 which has all the power of the More expensive Smasung galaxy S
yet at only 60 percent of the price.
granted the samsung galaxy s has a larger screen and uses Android but thats about it.
BADA however has only 150 applications and most of them useless.
Only a few good games and most games dont even use the 3d capabilities of the
wave's powervr sgx 535.
- Both phones use the The 1ghz hummingbird processor
- (Cortex A8 processor PLUS a powervr sgx 535.. much better combo than the qualcomm snapdragon processor)
- Both Phones have 5 meg cameras PLUS 720p recording
- Both use super Amoled Screens with the bigger screen going to to the Samsung galaxy S
- Both have 512mb of system memory
- I just dont get it why the Samsung Galaxy S costs almost twice the samsung wave 8500
- Maybe Samsung did this intentionally knowing most people would go for the cheaper yet identically spec-ed phone suppoting their own BAda OS.
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Still since the hardware under the hood is so similar is it possible to port the Android OS from the samsung galaxy to the samsung wave 8500?
I just like the samsung wave's price better
(prices for Samsung galaxy s in my country 32,000 pesos or 687.433 USD
Samsung Wave S8500 in my country 18,300 pesos or 393.464 USD)
Prices are for brand new units, openline, with One year Samsung Warranty
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Samsung Wave s8500: 3.3 inch AMOLED touchscreen display
Samsung Galaxy S: 4 inch AMOLED touchscreen display
That is a whole lot of screen difference
Also the S has 8 gig's of internal space
Upgraded data antenna's, there is differences.
It might be possible to throw an android os on since most of the differences are not really part of the core computing chipset. Still you can never be to sure if it's going to happen or not.
Some corrections..
The graphics chip is a PowerVR SGX540, not 535.
The 535 is the one that Apple has in their A4 chipset.
This is good thinking.. to top it off, I go feel that the wave's built is better.
Only if someone could crack open the device..
It will never happen.
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It will never happen.
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why do u think so?
Someone saying with it will never happen , just wait and see IT WILL HAPPEN its just matter of time. I can,t believe you being so skeptic. Are you open source guy or Paid Samsung Member
Just because you want it to happen doesn't mean it will. There is more to porting over the OS then just a little bit of coding. You must first assess what you're dealing with in terms of driver comparability and what source material you have compiled from all your resources. Then you got to put in the long time of writing tons of new code without ever really knowing if it would work. If you get someone to figure out how its possible and thinks its a worthy project then you might have a shot but I really doubt the right person would spend there time on this
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You are maybe right. i will give the wave to someone and go buy a android phone instead of wasting time. thanks
Its not using a 540 checkout pdabase site its using a powervr 535.
The samsung galaxy s and the wave s8500 are using 90 percent the same hardware.
Samsung has posted a link in their website where people can download the source code of the galaxy s.
If android 2.1 was ported to a touch diamond whats stopping the use of the samsung galaxy s source code to be applied on the wave s8500?
Even the bada os on the wave s8500 is based on linux.
The phones can probably dualboot too
either a port is needed ... or cross compiling libraries but before that bada os source ... if it ever comes out .. and finally haret.exe compatibility to actually start testing ...
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Its not using a 540 checkout pdabase site its using a powervr 535.
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Are you sure? I was thinking it was a 540
Super-amped to get Android on the Samsung Wave
Hi guys
I would be very interested in getting android on the Samsung Wave. The phone has some awesome hardware and is priced very competitively. It is just held back by its first generation bada os right now. As someone already said, the Wave shares 90% of its hardware with the Galaxy S/i9000 which runs android. The screens may not be the same size but the resolutions are both the same.
Hopefully an awesome developer will take up the challenge of being the first one to successfully port android to a bada phone. I wait in hope.
should be a 540, and it would seem highly possible for a port, however not many devs have purchased the Wave and you could be facing a lack of developers.
As far as I know, Samsung have held numerous bada developer days around the world. The devs that attended each received a Samsung Wave. Hopefully one of these devs knows how to go about porting android to the Wave.
Bada is a new OS, so I think it will take a while before devs work their heads around how the OS works. I shall just have to be patient and hope that there is someone out there that is up for the challenge. I wish I had the necessary skills to do it myself. How does one go about learning the ropes?
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Samsung Wave s8500: 3.3 inch AMOLED touchscreen display
Samsung Galaxy S: 4 inch AMOLED touchscreen display
That is a whole lot of screen difference
Also the S has 8 gig's of internal space
Upgraded data antenna's, there is differences.
It might be possible to throw an android os on since most of the differences are not really part of the core computing chipset. Still you can never be to sure if it's going to happen or not.
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Well, they have a different size, but the same resolution, so there should be no problem with the screen. In the worst case all buttons would be to small, but i don't think so..
loosa2k said:
Well, they have a different size, but the same resolution, so there should be no problem with the screen. In the worst case all buttons would be to small, but i don't think so..
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Nope everythings too big on Gal S anyway
I wonder if they have download/recovery modes, someone with a Wave should test it out. The build quality on wave is quite good but design of it turns me off
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I wonder if they have download/recovery modes, someone with a Wave should test it out. The build quality on wave is quite good but design of it turns me off
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In terms of build quality, the Wave is wwaaaayyy better than the plastic feel of the Galaxy S. I like the metal finish at the back of Samsung Wave.
BTW, they have already talked about porting Android to Wave in badaforums.net for quite a while back.
Related
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/19/samsung-nabs-tegra-2-for-galaxy-tab-2-google-makes-tegra-the-ho/
"It sounds like all of NVIDIA's wrangling and cajoling finally paid off, if a couple of analysts are to be believed -- both say the company's dual-core Tegra 2 chipset is racking up wins in the tablet space. We've seen it seemingly raise the bar for smartphone silicon in the LG Star and tease us in slate after slate, but Citigroup's Glen Yeung says that Samsung has "placed a sizeable order with Nvidia for Tegra 2 chips in the first half of 2011, geared for both tablets and smartphones," and BMO Capital Markets analyst Ambrish Srivastava anticipates the next Galaxy Tab will be one of the devices that use it. If that sounds obvious, remember that Samsung was supposed to be producing a dual-core chip of its own. What could cause companies to embrace Tegra 2, if that's indeed what's happening? Any number of reasons, to be sure, but Glen Yeung also says that Google has made Tegra the reference design for Honeycomb, aka Android 3.0, and so Tegra 2 may sound like a fast track to victory in the budding tablet space. Here's hoping it's a good choice for consumers, too."
I guess i'll be selling my Galaxy Tab soon enough. Ive seen the Tegra 2 at work, its REMARKABLE! The low power consumption and amazing power, makes flash videos play SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH!!
as long as it still have phone capabilities, i might upgrade
but i'm not sure its gonna be launched soon enough
as for having gadget these days, it wont last for long, so jumping from gadget to gadget is our destiny
LOL analysts.
Somehow I dont see Samsung dropping use of their internally developed mobile chipsets and using Tegra 2. Unless you want Tab 2 to be such piece of crap as Viewsonic G-tablet.
My bet is they are hyping nVidia stock because they need to unload it.
Technomancer said:
LOL analysts.
Somehow I dont see Samsung dropping use of their internally developed mobile chipsets and using Tegra 2.
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Except that the Hummingbird wasn't internally developed.
It was designed by Intrinsity on behalf of Samsung, who also manufacture it. The same Intrinsity who Apple purchased and subsequently released their A4 chip which is exceeding similar to the Hummingbird.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Intrinsity is a closed Apple-only shop now.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Except that the Hummingbird wasn't internally developed.
It was designed by Intrinsity on behalf of Samsung, who also manufacture it. The same Intrinsity who Apple purchased and subsequently released their A4 chip which is exceeding similar to the Hummingbird.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Intrinsity is a closed Apple-only shop now.
Regards,
Dave
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I don't think so, dual core Samsung Orion Cortex A9 with Mali GPU is quite alive and kicking http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-orion-tablet-gets-previewed-ahead-of-presumed-2011-debut-19115073/
Both Apple A4 and Samsung Hummingbird are based on the same ARM and Imagination Technologies IP and they share the same layout but. Intrinsity did their own tweaks to the design (which Apple owns now) but Samsung is still doing their own development.
Technomancer said:
LOL analysts.
Somehow I dont see Samsung dropping use of their internally developed mobile chipsets and using Tegra 2. Unless you want Tab 2 to be such piece of crap as Viewsonic G-tablet.
My bet is they are hyping nVidia stock because they need to unload it.
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The Tegra 2 processor kicks butt! I've owned the Viewsonic G-Tablet, only things wrong with it is: SOFTWARE/LCD DISPLAY, other than that, the hardware is "ballin" The Tegra 2 at least from what i Felt between the Galaxy Tab and G-Tablet... felt A LOT Smoother, Flash Videos on the G-Tablet due to the Tegra 2 was astonishing, and smooth as heck. The battery life was literally about 10-12 hrs. The thing would last me more then a weekend.
Flash videos on the Galaxy tab are iffy at times.
In the end of the day due to be not being able to stand the LCD on the Viewsonic Gtablet, and the need for a smaller portable tablet, I returned the Viewsonic G-Tablet for a Galaxy Tab.
Don't get me wrong, IM IN LOVE WITH THE QUALITY of the Samsung Galaxy Tablet, I love everything about it ...........exxxxxcept the processor and battery life.
Dual Core processors seems that it will be the standard now.
mmathai77 said:
The Tegra 2 processor kicks butt! I've owned the Viewsonic G-Tablet, only things wrong with it is: SOFTWARE/LCD DISPLAY, other than that, the hardware is "ballin" The Tegra 2 at least from what i Felt between the Galaxy Tab and G-Tablet... felt A LOT Smoother, Flash Videos on the G-Tablet due to the Tegra 2 was astonishing, and smooth as heck. The battery life was literally about 10-12 hrs. The thing would last me more then a weekend.
Flash videos on the Galaxy tab are iffy at times.
In the end of the day due to be not being able to stand the LCD on the Viewsonic Gtablet, and the need for a smaller portable tablet, I returned the Viewsonic G-Tablet for a Galaxy Tab.
Don't get me wrong, IM IN LOVE WITH THE QUALITY of the Samsung Galaxy Tablet, I love everything about it ...........exxxxxcept the processor and battery life.
Dual Core processors seems that it will be the standard now.
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+1 Same experience here. The Tegra 2 on the G Tablet just plain smokes. Unfortunately the screen is sooo bad that a lot of us returned it.
Viewsonic G Tab = Taking an Audi Spider to a fast food burger joint.
Samsung Galaxy Tab = Taking a BMW 3 series to Ruth's Cris.
You get there a lot faster on the G Tab but the destination is MUCH nicer on the Galaxy Tab.
I don't know what G-Tablets you used but the one I played with was terrible slow **** until it was hacked with some unofficial update. So what is the manufacturing problem that caused it to be pulled from Staples, they installed too much suck on it? http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/18/viewsonic-g-tablet-pulled-from-staples-stores-manufacturing-de/
Oh man. Off the shelf that device may be the worst electronic gadget released, compared to other modern devices. It is truly night and day after you change the ROM.
If you played with one in a store it isn't the same. I still can't believe a company known for their displays released something like that.
I may pick one up during the first of the year once the returns start flying in after Christmas and the price falls through the floor. It seems to have a lot of developer support.
well, better display = poor battery life
indeed, in 2011, i think its gonna be dual core everywhere
same old, same old
unless they start producing app that needs 2 core to run, i'll stick to my tab
but quoting from someone somewhere in forum who said, that he used toshiba folio with tegra 2 and the performance is about the same, i really doubt that its all about the processor
i'm no techie, but can better display reduce performance?
like in windows generally, to reduce lag and increase performance, any animation, or softer edge, or anything that resulting in better display is advisely disabled
Galaxy Tab 1 or 2?
So now that I hear there may be a new Galaxy Tab coming out by mid 2011 I am wondering if I should invest in a Galaxy Tab right now. I wonder if we will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread on the current tab......
shibed said:
So now that I hear there may be a new Galaxy Tab coming out by mid 2011 I am wondering if I should invest in a Galaxy Tab right now. I wonder if we will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread on the current tab......
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CES is about a week away, plenty of tablets to be displayed there...
shibed said:
So now that I hear there may be a new Galaxy Tab coming out by mid 2011 I am wondering if I should invest in a Galaxy Tab right now. I wonder if we will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread on the current tab......
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I bought mine the day they came out on Tmo and haven't looked back. You can always look for the next great thing, but then you lose the enjoyment of using the device in the meantime. Will I probably upgrade to the Tab 2 when it comes out - you bet. But for now I am loving my current generation Tab.
exactly. we're at a time now that technology is constantly advancing. It looks like, almost every 2 months we hear of something new, something better, something faster, etc.
if you constantly wait for the next big thing, you'll be waiting till you die.
But do whatever you see fit. =]
Yes that's right, mini version.
Haha
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s2_mini-3883.php
marcon10 said:
Yes that's right, mini version.
Haha
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s2_mini-3883.php
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Nééh, just an iphone with a Samsung logo, bad photoshop!!p)
r_a_c said:
Nééh, just an iphone with a Samsung logo, bad photoshop!!p)
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I see it lol. But there will probably be galaxy s2 mini
yes this is ancient news whats funny about it...?
1.4Ghz processor... not so funny.
1.4 Ghz single core processor though, not dual core.
its a vicious cycle of iPhone' ish looking phones from samsung...
Is this Samsung answer to Apple's lawsuit?
Surely that image is of the Galaxy Ace?
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi
Just noticed its single core booooo samsung this is basically an overclocked galaxy s
I think the device looks pretty cool. I bought the GSII for its amazing specs and screen, but I'm beginning to think 4.3" is borderline too big. The screen ends up in an inbetween spot where it's still too small to really enjoy video on but too big to be totally comfortable. Not to mention its speed seems wasted since the only thing I've found that it can't do is 1080p software decoding.
A single core hummingbird at 1.4GHz is still fairly quick and 3.7" seems a good size. If it's lighter than the GSII, a similar thickness, and cheaper I can see it being pretty appealing.
Not that I'm going to switch now though, too used to the speed.
Not Galaxy S II mini, but Galaxy S Plus. Same specs, different name. Doesn't make any sense to release two phones with almost same specs.
Just to let you know. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9001_galaxy_s_plus-3908.php
PS: GS+ is official, GS2 mini on the other hand, isn't
Announced or not I still expect them to release a Galaxy S II Mini if only for branding purposes. The GSII has a lot of hype right now while naming something after the original just makes it look old.
Just because the specs are similar doesn't necessarily mean the GSII Mini won't be released. Firstly they have different screen sizes and design which might be enough of a differentiator. Also they may be released in different geographical regions.
Guys, I present to you, what will probably be the closest thing to a Galaxy S2 Mini we'll probably ever get.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_plus_preview-review-604.php
:/
daivik said:
Guys, I present to you, what will probably be the closest thing to a Galaxy S2 Mini we'll probably ever get.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_plus_preview-review-604.php
:/
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A Snapdragon CPU? Strange. Any particular reason they aren't using Hummingbird?
Didn't some region in the world get the original Samsung Galaxy S with an overclocked 1.4GHz Hummingbird proc? Possibly this is using the same proc? I've had a number of friends extremely impressed with my SGS2 but their main concern was the phone being too big so a mini version would have been ideal for that share of the market. If they used the same Exynos proc then it would have been just as quick as well making it an awesome choice.
However, all this is just a rumour so time will tell what actually happens.
That's been a trend since the S III and it seems the S 4 is following suit. I guess for lack of time or supply constraints, they can never fit their proprietary designed-ARM based chip onto the phone with all the biggest markets. Most of the biggest markets always get stuck with a middling Qualcomm chip (read up on the differences between the Snapdragon 600 and 800) to make up for the lack of bands their LTE networks have. I'm sure like the Note II, the Note III will have probably figured out how to put an RBG strip on its Full HD AMOLED screen (Pixel arrangement differences could have an effect on color saturation and gamut); as well as a fully compatible Exynos 5 Octa or Snapdragon 800.
For lack of a better description, the S 4 feels like a "test subject", leading up to Samsung's hardware later in the year. I only wish the phone wouldn't be announced in Q1, so by the time it was released in late Q2, maybe it would have access to all of the year's most cutting-edge computational technology. Maybe there's nothing that can be done, but isn't anyone annoyed by this trend of things?
Ever since the Note came out with more than a £100 worth of free downloads and was a massive seller in South Korea I thought the Note family was Samsung's true flagship, I want the S4 lte but I have an N4 so might wait for the Note3 but that's probably 8/9 months away, the economy could be completely screwed by then.
I agree. More innovation seems to come with the note series both in terms of hardware and software.
Regarding the screen, N3 should have a full RGB matrix. The larger screen than S4 but with the same no of pixels should allow them to fit more sub-pixels without having to reduce pixel size. So pen-tile (diamond) should become full RGB- AWESOME.
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kkma1869 said:
I agree. More innovation seems to come with the note series both in terms of hardware and software.
Regarding the screen, N3 should have a full RGB matrix. The larger screen than S4 but with the same no of pixels should allow them to fit more sub-pixels without having to reduce pixel size. So pen-tile (diamond) should become full RGB- AWESOME.
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I guess so, but that's because of different things. hardware wise its because the note has the advantage of coming later, when production of the chipset is already done. The galaxy s series comes out earlier so its harder. As far as software i don't think the note 3 is going to be ridiculous superior to the S IV , it will have a bigger battery and enhanced S pen features but the S IV is already full of features.
Well, it's not like they aren't doing what they can with the phone at the time they release it. It's certainly a worthy upgrade to the S III. They're just so consumed with market share statistics, they're allowing their Galaxy S series to be shafted from all the yearly top specifications, while letting the Note capitalize on them. Maybe some people want a top-end device that's only 5" inches. Being relegated to second-tier is... daunting, to say the least. Waiting to late-April or early May to announce the device, then release it a couple of weeks later in May or June probably would have offered them more material to work with.
5.7 full hd display
3gb ram
13mp camera and many more
The next generation Galaxy Note phablet from Samsung is one of the most anticipated devices of the year, so understandably rumors about it aren't hard to come by. According to latest report the Galaxy Note III will be announced two days before IFA 2013 kicks off - on September 4.
The report also says Samsung Galaxy Note III is said to sport a 5.7" Super AMOLED display, rather than the 6" unit that was most frequently mentioned so far. The 1080p resolution is still expected to feature a Snapdragon 800 chipset or an Exynos 5 Octa processor along with 3 GB of RAM.
Furthermore, the third generation Galaxy Note phablet is said to come out with a 13 megapixel rear camera and will be slightly thinner than the Galaxy Note II with its profile measuring 8mm.
Unfortunately, there is no official word from Samsung just yet, but the IFA 2013 launch seems inevitable, considering the strong competition in the phablet club.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_iii_to_be_unveiled_at_ifa_2013_-news-6327.php
I'm still sporting my Infuse and will be in line for one of these. Just became available for an upgrade.....great timing.
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5.7 and 1080p 99% pentile , with a so so chip that will have the same relative 3D power than the note at 720p.
Skipping to note 3.
Call me again when they launch a 1080p non-pentile with better processor and 6" without bezel to put the frontal samsung logo.
As I feared, the Note 3 will be a minor update to the Note 2. Samsung needs to bring a new phablet to remain competitive in this market segment and so it decided to fit the S4's camera, fit a new processor with dubious real life performance improvement, slightly increase the size of the screen and make it FHD to keep it up with the Joneses. Big deal...
Note 4, please.
This does NOT make me anxious for the Note 3 to be released.
Seems they want me to pay hundreds of dollars just to upgrade to a 1080p display that's slightly larger, and I bet we'll lose A LOT of battery life too (because of the bigger/higher resolution display).
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/18/first-alleged-samsung-galaxy-note-iii-images-surface/
Did you guys check this? I hope its fake. Plz samsung change the designnn.
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People will not go for Note 3 for any minor updates. I have seen lots who are selling their good old Samsung and going for Xolo and MicroMax in India.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
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People will not go for Note 3 for any minor updates.
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I tend to agree with you. Of course there are always consumers who want to have the latest phone, but considering the price tag and that the Note series consumer is, IMO, a bit more tech savvy than the S series consumer, I believe that the Note 3 sales will be disappointing.
I look at the price of my Note 2 and the price tag of my laptop and they are about the same. When people look at the size of my Note 2 and ask "is that a cellphone?" I always answer: "actually, it is a pocket computer that also makes phone calls", 'cause that's the way I see my Note 2 (and in that perspective, 5.5" isn't too big).
Now, I'm not going to sell my laptop just because the new generation has some minor hardware updates. I don't really need them and it does not make any financial sense to spend money on a new laptop when my current one suits my needs perfectly. Specially in these times when we must think twice before spending our money. This reasoning also applies to my "pocket computer that also makes phone calls", i.e., my Note 2.
The two things that I really miss in my everyday use of the Note 2 is a slightly bigger screen to take notes, browse and read PDFs, and improved sunlight legibility. A camera with better low light quality and an image stabilizer that actually works would also be handy. The Note 3 brings none of this. Hence, I'll save my money for whatever future device offers me the features I really need, Samsung or not.
kersh said:
5.7 and 1080p 99% pentile , with a so so chip that will have the same relative 3D power than the note at 720p.
Skipping to note 3.
Call me again when they launch a 1080p non-pentile with better processor and 6" without bezel to put the frontal samsung logo.
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+1.
I'm really disappointed in Note III specs, I'm already looking for this beast: Sony Xperia Z Ultra :good:
I used Note 2 since the first day it was released, which makes it about almost 10 months old already. And to me, with the direction Samsung is heading by releasing so many variants, S4 Zoom, S4 Active, S4 Snap 800, S4 LTE Snap 600, S4 GSM Octa and so on makes me wanna puke, and I'm pretty sure there'll be at least 2-3 variants of Note 3. Hence, for once, I'm going to the brand that I hated so much last year, but now I've come to respect in terms of developer support and that is Sony. I'll go with Xperia Z Ultra. I don't need the S-Pen since I've used it for less than 50 times, so with Z Ultra, if I need to jot down notes, I'll take some pen or pencil and be done with it.Plus, the ROMs will have less bloatware too :victory::victory::victory: and that's an epic win for me
Or maybe, just maybe, we could actually wait for Samsung to reveal Note 3, and then discus on specs and if it's worth of upgrade.
I don't think I will upgrade to the Note III. I am getting my Note II in a few days, but I have used the Note II since launch date since I bought one for my dad. I am sure we can see a 2.3-2.5 GHz Snapdragon 800 or Exynos Octa Core Processor with 13 MP camera, 1080p resolution, a screen around 5.9", 2-4 GB of RAM (probably 3), 3600-3800 mAh battery, upgraded S-Pen support, a bunch of the S4 features, some unique features for the Note III, non-pentile display too, etc. The only things that I see as an upgrade are the processor and RAM really. The screen resolution is nice, but it is not necessary/ground breaking to have for app usage since devs support many devices. The camera will be amazing like the S4's, the battery life will be compensating the increase in screen resolution power. I wouldn't be surprised if we see three Note III's, an LTE model, an international HSPA+ (N7200), and LTE-Advanced model.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Clearer-image-of-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-III-leaks_id45553
Latest from rumours.
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Alexei Volkoff said:
IOf course there are always consumers who want to have the latest phone, but considering the price tag and that the Note series consumer is, IMO, a bit more tech savvy than the S series consumer, I believe that the Note 3 sales will be disappointing.
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There will be people who always need to buy any model or brand as I do see a good sales being an authorised reseller for many brands, but the market prediction is low on Note 3. Just need to wait and watch..
snrama said:
There will be people who always need to buy any model or brand as I do see a good sales being an authorised reseller for many brands, but the market prediction is low on Note 3. Just need to wait and watch..
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I cautiously agree.
But at the end of the day, the stats on the final product will make it or break it I think. Every website is throwing out any rumor that they can find, and I'm not believing most of it.
apallohadas said:
I cautiously agree.
But at the end of the day, the stats on the final product will make it or break it I think. Every website is throwing out any rumor that they can find, and I'm not believing most of it.
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true, not only website.. even the so called "branded companies" throws a lot of rumors :good:, personal experience!
I also used the Note 2 since launch date (10 months). The more I use it the more i appreciate it for it's battery life, performance and a nice big screen. I never had a phone that I liked this much. I usually own a phone for 2 years so this should last me till Note 4.
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I also used the Note 2 since launch date (10 months). The more I use it the more i appreciate it for it's battery life, performance and a nice big screen. I never had a phone that I liked this much. I usually own a phone for 2 years so this should last me till Note 4.
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I have had this note 2 for less than a month and I love it. Will get the note 3 because I know it will use the new Arm processor. I really think it sucks that Sammy used basically the same from the note 2 except for more ram and two more cores.
When you look at what is everything with Snapdragon quad, you can see how much more performance it provides.
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The mods have permitted us a sticky thread dedicated to discussion other devices. Let's try to focus these discussions there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2376459
Check this out...new gen exynos octa core..3 gb dram...just wait for upcoming note 3
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...emory-unit-may-debut-in-galaxy-note-3-1168344
Note3 after 4 weeks usage ( I have in collection S4, S3 , S2 , Tab8 )
On the paper specification is really pleasant 3gb ram fats CPU and USB 3 and etc…
But these 3 GB of ram ? really do you need this 3gb. Fast CPU but, does the apk is optimized for this CPU – GPU NO some apk works ok some not Some games loading fast some NOT and ….it is always waiting for updates to fix this
Samsung phones start remember Windows operating system Updates and updates and new Phone after 6-8 month
Anyway it is not the phone hardware fault but mixing samsung apk + bloatware apk with android become tragic Samsung have they apk store + knox for the point security for ???? Samsung : store , link, hub, sync , S voice and other 50 applications and plus on this top you have android applications
My review point :
I have looked to Apple side but the price for devices always take me back to Samsung I’m talking 2010 -2012
My First samsung products S2 , S3 was something really good new design and compare to iphone 4 , 3gs at this time offers lots for the money + the price was half price as the iphone
NOW NOTE 3 I have accident and the front glass smashed
To replace on Note 3 Screen Samsung Service center want 180 Pounds ebay 130-160 For the screen assembly + you do not know are they not refurbs
Iphone 5s screen on ebay for 40 Pounds Ipad Retina Mini the screen + glass lens for 55 Pounds on ebay
Iphone / Ipad will be my next device and I think I will move completely from Samsung
From 2013 to now Samsung Increased devices the prices + bloatware
Galaxy S4 when released cost same as Iphone 5 But the quality for build 2 times less then Iphone
Software Optimisation IOS on Iphone Do you need more to say more ….
My 3 year old Ipad 2 have still full day battery life all games working fluent all apps working ???
Ipad 2 have 512 mb of ram and dual core CPU ? but runs ok fine
Note 3 with 3 GB ram must be killer for my old Ipad 2 but ……… I have run simple game Angry Bird go and Note 3 Was more lag than Ipad ??? Same with other games
Forgot to mention battery life Note3 :
Sometimes when I do some intensive stuff like playing with pictures editing , games . video , the battery indication drops 1 percent per 1/2 minutes on Ipad 2 I can play all day and still have battery left
The next Year I will be replacing Note 3 to Ipad mini Retina 4g + cheap android phone now Im stuck with Samsung but not for long …………..
Samsung:
1 To expensive to buy same price as Iphone but the quality 2 time less
2 bloatware by default tray to remove losing warranty WOW
3 battery life ........
4 Performance Ipad Retina mini will outperform any Samsung device by graphic by CPU ....
5 Quality of the device Samsung all plastic
6 Parts to replace samsung will be 2 times more expensive that Iphone
7 Samsung phones do not keep the price at all you pay same money as Iphone but when you need to sell you will get nothing If you want to sell Iphone you always find good price money for the used one so paying high price from the begging latter can sell as well high price
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Inco
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I detect a troll. If its that bad, just sell the N3?
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>Sammy Note 10.1: stock, no root
>Sammy S3 stock, no root
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skypekestutiss said:
Samsung:
1 To expensive to buy same price as Iphone but the quality 2 time less
2 bloatware by default tray to remove losing warranty WOW
3 battery life ........
4 Performance Ipad Retina mini will outperform any Samsung device by graphic by CPU ....
5 Quality of the device Samsung all plastic
6 Parts to replace samsung will be 2 times more expensive that Iphone
7 Samsung phones do not keep the price at all you pay same money as Iphone but when you need to sell you will get nothing If you want to sell Iphone you always find good price money for the used one so paying high price from the begging latter can sell as well high price
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Inco
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I m from Collection of Galaxy Nexus - Galaxy S2 - S3 - Note 10.1 2013 - S4 - Note 3 on Samsung Smartphones
*** Nothing better than this >> that u can modify you phone.
even kernel, rom and install lots of batch ro boost up performance
It s Android >> OPEN SOURCE
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what we have on iOS?
no rom! EVEN no Launcher
what is kernel you don't know.
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you need more battery on galaxy device u can replace it by another one what if u need more battery on iPhone? just some cases.
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true high-end smartphones are Galaxy devices then other manufacture like Sony, LG and etc
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It is not about trolling Samsung this and this I have the device for me no point to do this I just tired from Samsung and want to share my experence in the last 3-4 years of using Samsung devices
It is about real life situation what I have now
I have looked another Samsung device tab pro 8.4 What Samsung done again put up dpi resolution and put 801 CPU GPU and on the internet if search can find that the GPU is not design for such high resolutions so the people from the first day getting poor performance Im not talking about home screen performance but gaming browsing etc
So the price I in Tesco 279 Pounds WOW it is looking amazing price so good But now do comparison to ipad mini retina amazon uk 272 Pounds
and any people in this forum can say that the Samsung pro 8.4 better that Ipad retina ? Please want to see your arguments
For gaming performance for battery performance for updates and etc
Today I have updates for Note 3 to UENC2 Firmware 2 Gb to download it is not a problem But I have spend 1 hour after to delete all bloatware
I need to use superuser chainfire to get root but my warranty validated because knox has been tripped I know before when I done this because better I will trip knox that I will live all bloatware inside the phone
Yes the phone maybe more smooth other test haven test
Second about kernels and other roms
I will never ever use any rom from internet ..... I do no say that rom developer can steal my data but Im always left this possibility
and second if you look the forum people updating this roms each week or couple days adding more stability bla bla it is looks that Samsung must not have any issues at all as so many people fixing but if read forum always find this better rom tweaked
So if all roms so good it must be rom without any problems at all but always will be 200 pages talks with the problems ?
Samsung employ programmers I do want to this they are "educated" creating exyons CPU and sorry for my saying so rom developer are better than Samsung team ?????? because they can fix the rom problems ??? I do missing something or Samsung need to replaced they employers ??? because they do not working just adding bloatware that all they can do ???
anyway I told what I wanted to say it is free country
Regards
Inco
adding to my morals
when I looked for upgrade s4 I have looked note 3 as the best experience phone etc .... bigger screen s pen 3 GB of ram I think that this phone will fly on everything
Now camera Yes it is good but all internet comparing IPhone camera as to other phones why ??????? Looks like iPhone camera is the best..
Cover I need to buy smart cover for 40 pounds if you want Samsung original or ebay for 10 Pounds copies some not working after chip identify Samsung put on
Now in the car I need to connect via Bluetooth because USB is not compactible with android it was created for IPhone WHY WHY WHY android do not have same as iPhone same design connections protocols ?
USB cable the USB 3 is very good fast speed but the connector now is double size it is not complain as original apple connector was 30 pin or ... so it was bigger but apple move to small lighting connector and Samsung going different way from small connector to bigger WHY ?
Now sound dac Snapdragon have they own dac not like Ipohne people love on note 2 Glalxy s3 dac Samsung decide to go with snapdragon dac
CPU GPU Samsung created exynos 5422 yes it is better chip then before but still not as good as IPhone dual core
GPU PowerVR G6430 in A7 chip WHY SAMSUNG CAN FIT THE SAME GPU TO NOTE 3 OR OTHER PRODUCTS ?????? it is leading GPU
the performance from this gpu is superb compare to snapdragon ....
My point I paying same price as IPhone but getting quality as 2 times less in performance in battery etc ...
I like android and I want to part of android because YES IT IS giving freedom some way But do I have choice for good device NO
Please don't feed the trolls
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With android as our operating system we can choose the manufacturer of our choice. If the build quality was a very big issue then why didn't you choose HTC one M8. M8 beats the iphones in terms of build quality and even the HTC is providing a free screen replacement in case of broken screen.
I cant get the fact that you are comparing the battery life of the note 3 with other tablets. In the case of battery life note 3 has a flawless victory over the iphones.
Plus android provides the power of customization which beats all the features in IOS according to me. Widgets is another advantage for android over IOS. I guess by your above posts you may have not even rooted your android device. There is a whole another level and things to do with a rooted device.
If your problem with the OS you can always install a custom rom. The vanilla android roms provides a minimalistic operating system with smoothness over features. I guess you have not researched before buying your device. There are many devices like one plus one and nexus devices which provide the best value for money and best android experiences. The S pen features is something that you would never get from an IOS device.
Above all android provides a freedom to do what the hell we want with our device. Please stop your whining and get yourself an iphone, because you wont be wanted in this open source world. Goodbye
Great now I'm providing a little food and water. I look at the comparison of iPhone vs note as apples to kitkats. Both phones have great hardware. The iPhone has a superior camera. Note 3 has a massive edge in screen size. Hardware performance seems like a wash, both phones can handily blow through any task you throw at it. Battery life goes easily to note 3. Replaceable battery and sd card give note 3 a huge advantage in storage and longevity. Out of the box iPhone's IOS seems more polished vs. Samsung's heavily modded android os. The s-pen has a plethora of features the iPhone can't touch. The iPhone has boundless accessories created by independent manufacturers. But the main selling point to me is customization. IPhone can be jailbroken and freed from apple's iTunes monopoly and skinned, but with root the note 3 becomes a god. Through debloating, tweaking, root level/custom apps and roms the note 3 is a beast. But here's my question for you; why come to an android development community where everyone has already chosen a side? Personally I think you would be better finding an iPhone community full of sheeple. If you're not willing to customize your phone in any substantial way, I think you've come to the wrong place.
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