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Hey guys,
I have been looking everywhere for a solution to my issues with my new HD2 but cannot seem to find something similar to my situation.
I bought this HD2 off ebay and it was brand new. It is the European version (Unbranded = not T-mobile) and unlocked to any carrier (although i can only use Edge for AT&T, it seems fine and am satisfied).
Issues:
after setting up everything (i.e. email, contacts, facebook, youtube etc..) it seems fine until i do a restart or reboot the device.
After the boot up, the phone will now start to slow down and started to get very laggy. Which is very annoying, because it feels like your running a windows vista in a Pentium 2 computer. I have also recognized that the my battery drains much faster (i.e. I left my house today at 100% full charged @ 8:30A.M and now it is 9:40A.M and it is already 81% and it was just sitting in sleep mode).
I am not sure if any of the guys here is experiencing the same issues or had experienced this and found a solution.
I have also, tried performing a soft reset but did not help.
I did a Hard reset twice already yesterday morning and seems to fix the problem and so, i started setting it up again (i.e. Facebook, mail, contacts, wifi etc..) and tried rebooting it a few times without any problems and I thought everything was fine now that I was thinking that it maybe just a bad setup at first, UNTIL last night when i charge the phone overnight and woke up this morning to find out that the big slowdown and lag is back.
I will appreciate any input from you guys.
by the way this is what i see when i boot up the phone.
R 2.05 51 05_2
G 15.28.50.07
D 1.48. 71294
Thanks
I had a similar experience once, go into task manager and view all process's, check the cpu usage of manila, mine was running at 90% and causing the experience you are seeing .. If this is the cause try backing out or the changes you made prior to this happening if you remember what they were .
To be honest this solution did not work for me and i ended up just flashing a new rom again .. All been well since .
EDIT : - Since you did a hard reset you have effectivly flashed a new rom, albeit the same version .. Add one app change at a time and monitor to see what causes the cpu to max out
Have you checked your free memory? Have you moved the cache files for HTC albumn, Opera, and google maps? If not search the forum to find out how.
Thanks for your comments guys.
I have actually went to my task manager and found that manila is running 90-95% the whole time and have no idea what really is going on.
I have also tried setting up my device and reboot each time. (i.e. setup facebook -> reboot ->set up yahoo mail --> reboot --> setup etc.. --> reboot.
and did not have any problems until i went to bed last night and charge the phone as usual but when i woke up this morning, i found out that the lag and slowdown is back.
i have recognize something though, that my yahoo mail (under email) has about 3,xxx emails inside the inbox and i checked the settings but it said download only messages for the past 3 days (which ofcourse i do not have over 3,000 emails in just 3 days).
I am not sure if is my email who's giving the problem, i understand that manila transfers emails to the HTC sense UI. (so maybe this is the problem?)
i just finished deleting my email account under this HD2 and will let you know if it improves.
Deleted my Yahoo account in my HD2 and did a reboot and it is now back to normal.
It is now Fast and very responsive.
I guess syncing all 3,000 plus emails to the HTC sense UI is the root of the problem.
Now, how will i have my yahoo mail here and have all the past 3 days setting available? without downloading my whole email in yahoo server.? i have checked my settings earlier and it said "download only messages for the past 3 days". But it looks like it downloaded everything in my email while im asleep.
This is so weird
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I guess syncing all 3,000 plus emails to the HTC sense UI is the root of the problem.
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My hotmail account defaults to 50 emails in the inbox on my HD2, if I get a new email it deletes the oldest, two emails = deletes oldest two which is a good system for on the go email.
I guess if you dig deep into the email settings you could possibly configure it, or search around if no other yahoo mail users give you a comment, will give you the answer!
Have a weird problem. Got the Epic on release day, set up my two emails that I want to be able to check from the phone, a POP3 account and a Gmail (that is not associated to the phone to sync).
Both are set to auto check for new mail every 5 mins. Everything worked great for about a day, but then stopped.
Neither email account is auto checking for mail regardless of the frequency I set it to. 5 mins, 10 mins, hourly, etc.
If I go into the inbox however for one of the email accounts it seems to instantly check for new mail and then all the messages show up.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Ok, after doing some Googling and coming across a comment on some random site I did a little test.
I have two email accounts configured, and both were set to check every 5 minutes. It seems that the stock email app has some kind of issue initiating more than one email check at a time, so if you have multiple accounts and have them set to the same check frequency, it breaks. I left one account at 5 minutes, set the other to 10 minutes, and they both were able to receive test messages I sent.
How retarded.
Hopefully there will be a fix for this at some point.
Mine is doing this too! however i do have them on different times. i haven't got a notification i got email i have to click email then it loads the messages?
Any way to fix this?
Exactly what mine was doing but putting the frequency check times at different times 5 min & 10 min seemed to have fixed it.
I just sent two more test emails to make sure it wasn't a fluke and will report back if it did indeed fix mine or just happened to work once after I had rebooted the phone.
Hmm,..previous test was a fluke maybe affected by having gotten an SMS around the same time...
Mine is still broken.
I have found that the email app must stay running in the background in order to sync additional mailboxes other than the default gmail account. Make sure any task killers are configured to ignore the email app. Using the Home key to exit mail works for me. YMMV!
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I don't have any task killers installed, but I do exit the mail program with the back button.
I'll try starting it up, and then just exiting using the home button to see if that changes the behavior.
I'll report back the results.
ddialogue said:
I have found that the email app must stay running in the background in order to sync additional mailboxes other than the default gmail account. Make sure any task killers are configured to ignore the email app. Using the Home key to exit mail works for me. YMMV!
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i let it run and didn't end it and it still didn't work i just have my email. i just forwarded my aol to gmail and now i dont have have to worry about it.
im having the same issue... This could be a deal breaker for me
Also the damn battery takes 4 hours to fully charge
Ok, leaving the email app running in the background by using the home key to exit it vs the back key made no difference. Still doesn't refresh the inbox until you open the email app up and go into it.
This sucks.
Anyone?
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Sorry, posted in wrong thread! had 2 open and picked the wrong one.
badblowntie said:
My Battery life sucks also, am trying a few things now to see if anything makes a difference. I removed Fring, did the on/off airplane mode thing, and am running the Juice Plotter to see if anything changes. only 4 to 5 hours of average use that my Hero could handle kills this battery!
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How is this relevant to the topic?
i have 2 yahoos and a gmail and they are all updating fine. who is the provider of this email service?
One is a Gmail account the other a POP3 that had no issues over the last 5-6 years on WinMo using Sprint, nor on Android on my old Touch Pro, so that isn't the issue.
After roaming around the net a bit, it seems this a fairly widespread issue with no known fixes yet.
I also have this issue, and its quite frustrating. I have email accts for hotmail, gmail, yahoo, and aol. The only one that gets mail properly is the hotmail account, since it's set up using ActiveSync. The others often don't show as getting new email for about a day or so unless I manually go into each account. Only then will it realize there are new messages.
I too am having the same problem. My default e-mail is a comcast account set up to check every 5 mins. My 2nd acct is a gmail acct set to check every 30 mins. Coming to this phone from a blackberry and my curve would get the e-mails faster than my PC's outlook would.
I rooted my wife's EVO the day she got it bc she hated all the pre-loaded sprint bs. I'm in the same boat with my epic, but i'm hesistant to root it and load an Android 2.2 rom because i want to wait for bugs like this to be fixed.
I'm also getting a pop-up error msg on my epic about 4-5 times per day that says something along the lines of "unable to connect to network", even though i have service on the top "taskbar". The pop-up gives me the option to retry or cancel. Either selection doesn't seem to do anything. I have wi-fi, 4g, gps, and bluetooth turned off for battery life. I don't know if this could correlate to the e-mail syncing problem so I figured i'd toss it out there.
You know, the frustrating thing is I sit here and wait for months for this phone to come out and then they have all these problems with it. My wife's HTC EVO hasn't had a single problem since day 1 and she got it on release day too. The only thing good i can say about this epic compared to the evo (with exception of the slide out keyboard) is the battery life is marginally better on standby.
Subscribing to see what the fix is...
A lot of sites are rumoring there being some type of OTA update near the end of September. Some say it will just e fixes and patches for 2.1 for things exactly like this, others are crossing their fingers that it may be Froyo.
Either way, as long as it fixes this issue I'll be happy...so we'll just have to cross our fingers, wait and see.
lately my e-mail checking has been getting worse, sometimes not even syncing certain items. i went into settings and compared the send receive port #'s to the ones set up in my outlook, and the settings were all wrong as well as the port #'s. I changed them all to match my outlook and now everything is working fine for the moment. time will tell if this was the problem.
I'd be surprised if that fixes it for you.
I know that isn't the issue with mine. All of my manually configured server settings are correct and it still does it.
Crossing my fingers this will be patched/updated at some point, but until then I have MailDroid installed which is getting new mail notifications perfectly. I don't really like MailDroid as much as the integrated client, so whenever MailDroid lets me know I have an email, I just go into the stock email client and manually refresh to read/reply/etc.
hi everyone,
ive been using a slew of custom roms since our lovely heroes got rooted snd on everyone I setup my work email and calendar along w/ my gmail. When using sense roms it didnt seem to be a problem, same battery life/responsiveness with or without it.
I'm now using CM6, flashing the dailies actually. and after one flash my phone was extremely laggy and the power control widget wasnt working so i wiped, and it was running flawless, fantastic battery life to boot, best i ever had.
I then decided to resetup my exchange email, and boom the phone is garbage. laggy beyond normal use and watching the battery percentage drop from 94 to 89 in the matter of minutes, i chalked it up to it resycning the emails, so i waited it out about an hour, battery life was 67%...so that pinpointed my culprit...
even after setting all my accounts not to sync [i didnt see an option to pinpoint 1], i get the same responsiveness from my phone. It's only after removing it from my accounts and sync section the phone returns to normal.
ps i've only set the calendar (not contacts) to sync, and 3 days of email syncing every hour (longest delay, the sense roms let you pick longer or manual)
anyone have any thoughts? and please dont say use touchdown, i tried it and its not for me. thanks for reading.
Exchange Sync on mine drains the battery to, if its set to PUSH email, if you set it at an interval - even 10 minutes its not so bad. I have mine set to 1 hour and 1 day (About 100 emails a day), so it checks it 6-7 times through the work day, and then I can manually refresh when I am at home. I wish I could set a schedule on it - I don't need the exchange email between 8-5 because the people who email me are 30 feet away and they usually just yell after they send the email. After 5 if it switched to push on its own, it would be awesome.
That being said, the phone is still completely usable with exchange setup, just a battery whore.
EDIT:
I have noticed that even though it is set to an interval, if you are in the email app, or open it it seems to force a sync regardless of settings. I wonder if it does this in the background. I have never paid close enough attention to see.
thanks for the reply, good to know im not the only one whose corporate email sync is a battery hog.
in the mean time i've actually found a bit of a workaround i figure i share for anyone else in my situation. since i barely checked my email but used the calendar alot. I downloaded Google Calendar Sync software on my work pc and set it up to do a 1 way sync and put my Outlook calendar on my google calendar, which syncs with my phone obviously.
So far so good, but i hope the exchange sync issues dont go unnoticed within the CM6 dev team.
Hi,
As the title says. .can u guys try it out. .im running on foryo now but the same thing was on 2.1...
It only lags when i configure an email account in the email client. ..once deleted NO LAG. .
Btw what's up with the gps fuss. .mine is working perfectly infact its best gps and wifi in a phone i owned.
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SGS also lags when browsing through different memos in Memos application. It's hilarious!
u didn't get what im saying it only lags after configuring an email account. ..ex ur memo browsing might not lag if u remove ur email account. .
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Well, I don't have seperate email accounts configured, only Gmail.... so don't know about that.
Either you've never had a gps-enabled phone before, or your previous phones have been useless, as my experience is that my old G1 has better gps than my SGS - it locks MUCH faster and is 100% accurate, whereas the SGS never gets within 10m of my location and once I start moving it just goes haywire - MY Tracks shows me driving through fields and houses 90% of the time and occasionally I've done handbrake turns in someones front garden apparently.
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Either you've never had a gps-enabled phone before, or your previous phones have been useless, as my experience is that my old G1 has better gps than my SGS - it locks MUCH faster and is 100% accurate, whereas the SGS never gets within 10m of my location and once I start moving it just goes haywire - MY Tracks shows me driving through fields and houses 90% of the time and occasionally I've done handbrake turns in someones front garden apparently.
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I don't know but i never faced an issue like that and the fix is pretty fast compared to my touch pro and omnia 2
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Lag also without email-accounts
Since upgrading to FroYo 2 weeks ago i haven't bothered to enter my email-accounts. (only gmail)
But it still lags!
dspjern said:
Since upgrading to FroYo 2 weeks ago i haven't bothered to enter my email-accounts. (only gmail)
But it still lags!
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You can add my name to this list. I've never used Samsung's crappy E-mail app, yet my phone lags constantly.
Back to the drawing board, eh?
adel6 said:
Hi,
As the title says. .can u guys try it out. .im running on foryo now but the same thing was on 2.1...
It only lags when i configure an email account in the email client. ..once deleted NO LAG. .
Btw what's up with the gps fuss. .mine is working perfectly infact its best gps and wifi in a phone i owned.
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I have experienced the same thing, i mainly experience the lag in the email app itself though. System Panel shows a steady 30% cpu usage when just looking at the email screen(s), and a steady continious +50% cpu when in the Accounts & Settings of the email accounts, so there is something odd. It seems to relate to Exchange accounts, but i'm not sure.
I read somewhere that a K9-mail user had a problem, downloading 20-25 messages took 10 minutes. After applying Voodoo Lagfix, this dropped to 2 seconds... So maybe the email app is really hammering the internal SD card for no good reason, which would explain the high CPU .
I've never used Samsung's crappy E-mail app
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the e-mail app on the Galaxy S identical to the "stock Android" one?
I use the GMail app myself and I have no problems with it. The Memo app turned painfully slow after the 2.2 update, but fortunately I don't use it
pwhooftman said:
I have experienced the same thing, i mainly experience the lag in the email app itself though. System Panel shows a steady 30% cpu usage when just looking at the email screen(s), and a steady continious +50% cpu when in the Accounts & Settings of the email accounts, so there is something odd. It seems to relate to Exchange accounts, but i'm not sure.
I read somewhere that a K9-mail user had a problem, downloading 20-25 messages took 10 minutes. After applying Voodoo Lagfix, this dropped to 2 seconds... So maybe the email app is really hammering the internal SD card for no good reason, which would explain the high CPU .
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I haven't bothered investigating cpu usage and such, but I can confirm that the email client profits tremendously from a lag fix (OCLF, in my case, using two Exchange accounts).
As stated in Post #11, i had the same problems. After Setting back to Factory Defaults and installing Voodoo Lagix last night, my conclusions are:
- the problem is introduced/highly aggrevated by installing Froyo 2.2 over Eclair 2.1, which i did through Kies with the registry hack two weeks ago.
- a format of the Internal SD Card, followed by a reset to Factory Defaults, solves the problem to a point the email app is useable again (albeit no speed monster). Also, this solved other ittermittent force closes which i was suffering from mostly in Agenda related apps. Of course you will loose all apps and data doing this.
- Applying Voodoo lagfix solved the speed issues almost completely. You can still tell the email app isn't the best programmed app of the bunch, but its perfectly workable. Installing Voodoo was a breeze following the step by step instructions found through project-voodoo.org.
It does seem a little more responsive after removing te email account.
I will try the voodoo lagfix. But I'm hoping for an updated version of FroYo.
Try this app for email including exchange, it was provided by seven for Samsung, but it was not put on all Galaxy S's, seems to work quite well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8731758&postcount=25
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Running JP6 with voodoo. The default mail app works nicely with two accounts. One exchange and one imap.
No lags even with a few days uptime.
Exchange email accounts drain battery fast on Scandinavian Froyo update
To illustrate something is amiss with the Scandinavian Froyo update, that Samsung pulled afterwards:
If you set up Exchange email accounts, setting the Email retrieval update interval to anything else than 'Never' results in a continious 10% CPU load, draining the battery two times faster than in Eclair 2.1
I set it to 'Never', or have Tasker kill the Email app x seconds after Display Off
Determined by using System Panel app.
Edit: flashed JPA firmware (which is believed to be the official Froyo update coming 11-11), problem still exists
Test with K9 and default Android Email app on i9000
Did a test on my i9000. Stock 2.1 no lag fix. Bought SIM-Free so only has Samsung's tweaks and no mobile operator branding.
I9000XXJM1
ECLAIR.XWJM2
TEST A. Default Email application
1. Used Email app (default one that comes with Android):
Added two Gmail accounts / IMAP, SMTP, SSL.
No unacceptable lag other than that encounted without the usual lag-fix.
2. Added 1 non-Gmail account / IMAP/ SMTP-AUTH, TLS
System became nearly inoperative. Swiping between home screens took 2 seconds. Using most apps, caused the screen to remain black for between 2 and 30 seconds. In one case using Xscope (browser, which was now impossible to use - unresponsive and 3 mins to draw a page) caused the screen to remain black for approx 3 mins. Contact, Messenger and Phone apps took a max of 2 seconds to open, but always opened. Outbound call quality degraded to the point the called party complained. I did not notice an app crash.
TEST B. K9 Mail application
1. Used K9-Mail app :
Added two Gmail accounts / IMAP, SMTP, SSL.
No unacceptable lag other than that encounted without the usual lag-fix.
2. Added 1 non-Gmail account / IMAP/ SMTP-AUTH, TLS
System became nearly inoperative. Swiping between home screens took 2 seconds. Using most apps, caused the screen to remain black for between 2 and 30 seconds. In one case using Xscope (browser, which was now impossible to use - unresponsive and 3 mins to draw a page) caused the screen to remain black for approx 3 mins. Contact, Messenger and Phone apps took a few seconds to open. Outbound call quality degraded to the point the called party complained. I did not notice an app crash. System load hit 39, which is very overloaded for a 1 CPU device. Often it was between 10 and 20.
I suspect the I/O but I did not see iostat in busybox; the stdout from top was badly formatted on the SGS display so I could not read the I/O column.
Notes:
i. Test B Result 2 is almost a copy and past of Test A Result 2. This is because the results were pretty much the same.
ii. System load (vmstat and top) I did not check system load with Test A. I only did this when I used K9-Mail.
iii. System was rebooted each time after an IMAP account was configured.
iv. I have since removed the non-Gmail IMAP accounts. It was hell. I almost beat the SGS into the wall.
v. Important: the non-Gmail IMAP account has the following in the mailbox:
Inbox 658 messages totalling 68.4Mb.
vi. K9-Mail configured to fetch full headers and messages <2kB hourly, and only the fetch the Inbox.
vii. NON-Gmail IMAP server capacities:
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR SORT THREAD=REFERENCES MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT LITERAL+ IDLE CHILDREN NAMESPACE LOGIN-REFERRALS UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 STARTTLS AUTH=PLAIN] Dovecot ready.
No problem here - Google use Dovecot.
viii. A factory reset was done between the two tests. (Settings -> Privacy -> Factory data reset)
viiii. GMAIL IMAP accounts contained approx 20 Emails each in the Inbox. I await more SPAM for testing purposes.
UPDATE.
I had 1,000 Emails sent to me on Gmail. Then reran Test A Part 1, and had the Email app load 114 of these. The SGS stated to lag. I opened one of the messages (containing only 1 line of ASCII email), and the Email partially opened the Email, splutted, stopped, hung, screen went black. Eventually, I closed the app down. Even the Active Applications widget (and the programme it lauches) is slow (and red).
I went onto Gmail and deleted the 1,000 Emails, and synced the Email app with Gmail IMAP server. Messages read 0, and the SGS was back to normal speed without lag-fix.
I soubt very much that any one is using a normal Email account with the SGS Email app. I suspect most are using Gmail with the Gmail application. I cannot comment on the lag fix (I await CyanogenMod for mine), but the SGS cannot be used with a non-Gmail account without a lag fix : useless for me since I only use Gmail for the Market ; Like many people, work provides the Email account. Clearly, Samsung test team did not test their wonderful RFS with normally sized IMAP accounts. Nice one, Samsung. 10 out of 10 for cocking it up.
As for GPS its something like thsi:
- Where are the sats?
Oh there they are.
Please don't move for 30 seconds.
Found some!
Oh feck, you've moved.
Now where are those pesky sats?
What was I doing? Oh sats!
Setting Exchange to'"Push" seems to solve it
I came across this and lo and behold, excessive CPU usage goes down to fairly normal 1-3% CPU while asleep by setting Email retrieval for Exchange accounts to "Push"
Edit: at least, it did for a while. Now its back to previous behaviour. I'm still investigating
Series of tests reveal that email client performs different in certain circumstances
I made a lot of testruns of about one hour to determine the effect of setting up Email Exchange clients on CPU usage and therefore battery life:
Starting point:
- Build Froyo.XWJPA
- Smallband I9000XXJPP
- Voodoo lagfix
- One Gmail account set up, syncing contacts, Gmail, Picassa, Agenda
- Tests run against two separate Exchange Server 2003 servers SP2
- CPU load determined with SystemPanel app
1. Installed Exchange account #1 without security policies. Email retrieval set to "Push".
- Email process used 0% CPU, system CPU floating around 3%
2. Set Exchange account #1 to retrieve email every hour
- Email process used 1,1% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
3. Set Exchange account #1 back to "Push"
- Email process used 0% CPU, system CPU floating around 3%
4. Set Exchange account #1 to retrieve every 5 minutes
- Email process used 1,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
4. Added Exchange Account #2 with security policy, Email retrieval set to "Push"
- - Email process used 0,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
5. Set Exchange account #2 to retrieve email every hour
- Email process used 1,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
So, what seem conclusions from this test:
1. One Exchange account set to `Push` doesn´t affect battery life much. 'Push' is generally considered the most battery effective.
2. One Exchange account set to some time interval does affect CPU considerably, therefore batterylife also. It's irrelevant what interval is set. The reason the total system CPU goes to around 10% seems to be that the process name ´system´ starts using several % CPU as soon as the email process does. Based on the experience that the email client is slow with an exchange account without a lagfix leads me to the conclusion the email app is performing large amounts of I/O in this setting. This link (comment 14) seems to confirm this. Experiences here (comment 15 & 16) are similar.
3. Adding another Exchange account with security policy enforced increases CPU, no matter at what interval this second account is set. This could be related to the bug found on Motorola Droid that when the Maximum inactivity time out in the Activesync properties on the Exchange server are set to a higher value than the highest supported value on the phone, the email app keeps the phone in a wake lock.
So, i just have my exchange accounts set to Never. For one account, automatic retrieval is useless anyways because mail gets delivered to subfolders (which do not sync or get pushed automatically). Fot the other, i'll just have to open the email app every now and then and let it fetch mail at that moment.
This problem doesn't seem to be limited to the Galaxy S, Motorola Droid is mentioned also in above threads.
Improved Email
I can advise everyone to look into "Improved Email" at http://www.mwebster.us/
It has the ability to sync specific subfolders, hide subfolders, apply color of your choice to the account, open up the email app in folder view, etc
Tip: first delete exisiting Exchange account and setup a new account from within the improved email app
I have got my galaxy S2 for a week now. I absolutely love the phone. Just that the battery problem is killing me. I only manage to get half day of usage for the phone. Then I started reading infinite number of threads on xda on battery issue. I basically tried every possible methods:
flashing so many roms (on decided to stay on KF2 right now),
deleting all widgets(could be),
root the phone and install titanium backup to delete a lot of software which ppl
classified as the source of the drain(could be),
disable fast dormancy(dun see the difference),
disable push email and sync(could be),
using advance task killer to kill app every hr (dun work),
juice defender(dun work)...
etc etc...
SOMEHOW, my battery drain issue STOPPED yesterday!!! I still dunno what exactly is causing it to stop draining. But I DID find out a pattern, when we go to the battery plot section, if the phone shows a solid "Awake" bar, then the battery drains very fast.
So I started trying very possible way to stop the phone being "awake", the above methods I marked as cound be are the ones that I think can actually help. Using advance task killer does make a "segmented awake bar" for a few minutes, but it becomes a solid bar soon after, so no use (i found "clean memory" function comes with the phone better than ATK). Deleting widgets wont stop the phone being awake but it certainly makes my phone feeling lighter and faster. Then I rooted the phone, and start using titanium backup to delete ( i cant just freeze with free version) the possible softwares, e.g the hubs, wifi-sharing, softwaire updates. Then all in a sudden, the phone tries to sleep!!!
For me, I think social hub could be making the phone awake (at least it must be one of them), but I NEED if I need to use the email app that come with the phone for receiving emails from hotmail.
funny stuff starts....
So solve it, I imported my hotmail account to gmail using POP so that I can use gmail app to check hotmail. But then my hotmail and gmail start going crazy...!!
Reason: I did similar setting before in my hotmail account to receive gmails in to my hotmail account. What happens next is... Yes.. I basically created a "loop function" which makes the two accounts keep exchanging emails automatically to one another.. I received 1000+ emails in just a few minutes and it keeps going faster and faster.!!! > < Therefore I wont try this again!!!!
Can someone tell me a solution of getting hotmail emails in other ways besides those stupid apps (e.g android mail) in the android market which basically acts as a bookmark to get you to the hotmail page? MANY THANKS!
One of these might help:
POP your hotmail into a new yahoo mail account and install yahoo mail client.
Set up a new gmail account and POP hotmail into it, use gmail client to read main and this new account.
Figure out whats wrong with your phone that makes samsung stock mail waste juice, I use it for exchange mail and it's just a bit more hungry than what I would have wanted, I get through a heavy usage day just fine.
JuiceDefender surely helps. I'm getting 2 days with medium usage, KE7 stock firmware. Yes, as you said if you have background tasks, that will kill the battery, but just close them if you don't need them. Also disable auto-sync, and let only your email sync.
Thank you kreo, i will try yahoo mail account with ur method!