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whats with new members not allowed to post in the development area..
u get to know everything there is to know by reading previous posts.. and after that if u have a problem or want to help, u cannot post on the development page..
n it'll only spam the general forum.. making it difficult for others..
this is just a precaution to eliminate pointless and idiotic questions on the forum
if u go through the general forum to get ten posts u will have a good understanding of the phone
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this is just a precaution to eliminate pointless and idiotic questions on the forum
if u go through the general forum to get ten posts u will have a good understanding of the phone
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Nicely put.
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sheron said:
this is just a precaution to eliminate pointless and idiotic questions on the forum
if u go through the general forum to get ten posts u will have a good understanding of the phone
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nice idea, but if I look through some posts in development Thread, I think it don't work. There are many spam too.
And people like me, have to search where we can write something meaningful.
Normally I wouldn't something reply to such a thread...but I'm hunting my 10 posts.
XDA has already considered this topic, that is why we have the rule. If you want to know why, visit the site announcement from January.
BTW, this topic is not related to the Galaxy 3 device. In the future, topics such as these should be posted either in "Off Topic" or "About XDA Developers" section.
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whats with new members not allowed to post in the development area..
u get to know everything there is to know by reading previous posts.. and after that if u have a problem or want to help, u cannot post on the development page..
n it'll only spam the general forum.. making it difficult for others..
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i totally agree with you , it bugs me alot to..
i think that it's annoying, but it's totally necessary, i mean.. i prefer to "collect" my 10 posts, and not see crapy threads.
well done xda
This rule annoys me too.
But remember..... uncontrolled freedom ruins the very own essence of itself. Better thought rules are always good for the privileges of freedom earners.
Please note: I don't hate anyone, neither do i love anyone... but i do like everyone
If I'm supposed to put my questions in the Q&A section, why is it not available on the mobile app? Our am I missing something? Lol
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WRONG SECTION!!!!!! jk
I had the same issue and just un installed and reinstalled the app and it came up.
*edit* Previous thread.
good day.
ragarm said:
If I'm supposed to put my questions in the Q&A section, why is it not available on the mobile app? Our am I missing something? Lol
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The q&a section is a joke, now all you hear is wrong section!, wrong section!... what is the point exactly? I just was reading a post where a guy was getting yelled at for posting a question in the question forum...
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The q&a section is a joke, now all you hear is wrong section!, wrong section!... what is the point exactly? I just was reading a post where a guy was getting yelled at for posting a question in the question forum...
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Which thread was that you were reading?
Yeah, can you link me? More than likely it was a thread that was moved after the question was asked an the yelling happened.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Probably the ROM/Kernel combo for battery life thread.
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Yeah, can you link me? More than likely it was a thread that was moved after the question was asked an the yelling happened.
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Well im sure not going to waste time looking for it again... but lets say your right and it was moved after the yelling, how about why all the yelling anyway? Only at xda are the majority of conversations polluted with arguing over where to properly post. Ok fine, dont post general stuff in the dev section, thats a no brainer... but q&a, and general are the same thing.
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Well im sure not going to waste time looking for it again... but lets say your right and it was moved after the yelling, how
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Moved by the moderator. OP thought he was posting his thread in the General section when he was actually posting in the developer section. Not hard to find. Is this the thread to which you were referring?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028286
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Moved by the moderator. OP thought he was posting his thread in the General section when he was actually posting in the developer section. Not hard to find. Is this the thread to which you were referring?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028286
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Its development section, not developer... are you suggesting that only the devs are allowed to post anything there?
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Its development section, not developer... are you suggesting that only the devs are allowed to post anything there?
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No, sorry. Development section. I'm not suggesting anything. I was just trying to answer your question as to how it got moved.
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No, sorry. Development section. I'm not suggesting anything. I was just trying to answer your question as to how it got moved.
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Ok... but tell me the truth, does there really need to be q&a and general? Isnt the whole nature of android forums, people asking, others answering?
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Ok... but tell me the truth, does there really need to be q&a and general? Isnt the whole nature of android forums, people asking, others answering?
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I see the confusion generated by the q&a and general sections. What kind of questions belong in which? I just started posting here with some frequency like 3 weeks ago. I agree the whole nature of forums is asking and answering questions, sharing information, and helping each other out. I think how each forum handles that and how they are formatted are going to be different. I'm not a moderator or anything like that. I'm just someone who is wanting to share information and give and get answers and I'm still trying to figure out exactly how this forum is structured. Still haven't nailed down all the rules and particulars, but I keep searching. I know pretty much all the devs hang out here, so I figure it must be a good place to get some good info.
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Ok... but tell me the truth, does there really need to be q&a and general? Isnt the whole nature of android forums, people asking, others answering?
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How about we take a step back and think about this.
You're asking why is there even a Q and A & General Forum. Well think about if there was just a Samsung Fascinate forum, and nothing more. Everything lumped together. Better yet how about we just make a Samsung forum, people can ask what they want about any Samsung android device. Sounds great right, everyone has a voice and there is no way it would be complicated to use!
The reason they are here is to help you, to help me, to help the devs, to help everyone. Order and organization is the name of the game.
There has to be structure, that is why if you have a question about the Samsung Fascinate and/or its development you place it in the Q and A forum. If you have something you would like to bring up in "general" then..... you see where this is going.
We can either have one large room with everyone yelling at different people, or smaller rooms where there is no need to raise your voice!
But there is no real yelling on a forum, its online. The tense of any one sentence is how you make it.
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How about we take a step back and think about this.
You're asking why is there even a Q and A & General Forum. Well think about if there was just a Samsung Fascinate forum, and nothing more. Everything lumped together. Better yet how about we just make a Samsung forum, people can ask what they want about any Samsung android device. Sounds great right, everyone has a voice and there is no way it would be complicated to use!
The reason they are here is to help you, to help me, to help the devs, to help everyone. Order and organization is the name of the game.
There has to be structure, that is why if you have a question about the Samsung Fascinate and/or its development you place it in the Q and A forum. If you have something you would like to bring up in "general" then..... you see where this is going.
We can either have one large room with everyone yelling at different people, or smaller rooms where there is no need to raise your voice!
But there is no real yelling on a forum, its online. The tense of any one sentence is how you make it.
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Sorry, but that makes no sense... all you need is general and development for each device
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Sorry, but that makes no sense... all you need is general and development for each device
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So I guess the themes and apps section and the accessories section should be put in general? That would make the general section completely unusable.
To the OP, all you need to do is remove the fascinate forum from your favorites. when you add it back to favorites, q&a should be there.
As far as what should go where:
General should be for general discussions like "what rom and why?"
Q&a should be for questions like, "how do I fix xyz?"
If anything should be changed, maybe q&a needs to be renamed "help"
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Its development section, not developer... are you suggesting that only the devs are allowed to post anything there?
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sounds like a good suggestion to me. I think only devs should be thread starters in the dev section.
Lemme break it down for you all:
General is for everything that is a general discussion, not a specific question. Is it confusing, yes. Does it mean that people will still post questions without searching? Yes. But that's why you all have me, I can sort it all out.
Q&A is self described. All questions, whether they are specific device questions or development questions are to be posted within the Q&A section.
Accessories is of course for accessories. Not much to say.
Development is ONLY meant for the releasing of new ROMs and such. General discussion or questions are not permitted within the development section. With the exception of kernel or source discussions, all general development discussion should be posted within the general section.
And themes and apps is self explanatory.
Now, not to be a douche, but if you don't like my rules...don't post! I for one am getting tired of having to stop these arguments when all I am asking is that people read the XDA rules, post in the correct section and use the search button before posting.
Any beef should be brought to me via PM.
Word.-saur
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Lemme break it down for you all:
General is for everything that is a general discussion, not a specific question. Is it confusing, yes. Does it mean that people will still post questions without searching? Yes. But that's why you all have me, I can sort it all out.
Q&A is self described. All questions, whether they are specific device questions or development questions are to be posted within the Q&A section.
Accessories is of course for accessories. Not much to say.
Development is ONLY meant for the releasing of new ROMs and such. General discussion or questions are not permitted within the development section. With the exception of kernel or source discussions, all general development discussion should be posted within the general section.
And themes and apps is self explanatory.
Now, not to be a douche, but if you don't like my rules...don't post! I for one am getting tired of having to stop these arguments when all I am asking is that people read the XDA rules, post in the correct section and use the search button before posting.
Any beef should be brought to me via PM.
Word.-saur
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I for one am tired of you acting like such a big shot... and rambling on about YOUR rules and where to post this and that, blah blah blah. but thats why i dont come here much anymore. You and chopperdog, and landshark all think your so much better than everyone else
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I for one am tired of you acting like such a big shot... and rambling on about YOUR rules and where to post this and that, blah blah blah. but thats why i dont come here much anymore. You and chopperdog, and landshark all think your so much better than everyone else
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He is laying out the rules, how is that acting like a big shot? Would you rather have an unmoderated, disorganized, cumpled together forum? If that is the case then you are in a very small group of people with that type of preference. You dont have to be here if you dont want to, so why punish yourself if you clearly dont like being here?
The Q&A forum makes perfect sense, as does breaking the forum up based on specific interests. It makes people with certain interests able to more easily find the information they seek as well as get answers to the specific answers they have. It also cuts down on the clutter than can liter a forum because it clumps all information together.
The ONLY reason I made ANY rules is because YOU, as the collective users of the Fascinate section wanted them, you wanted order, and I gave it to you. If you don't feel that my simple rules are worth your time to follow, then do us all a favor and don't post. There are plenty of more open minded users who are happy with the way things are going, and appreciate a little order and structure over the chaos that once was.
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Hi,
I really don't understand the pattern behind the allowed post in the dev section.
What I'm understanding is that the dev section is for ROM/Kernel only : when I tried to post a dev-related suggestion,
I was warned that it was wrong, and was threatened (!). Now that iron fist is in effect, I think people are "scared" to post
anything related to dev investigation into the dev section, and now all goes by default into the general section when we
have some doubts. Which creates a new disorder, ironically by trying to force order.
The dev section is now only a collection of <10 alive threads about custom kernel/rom. Not really alive section with thoughtful discussion about general dev ramblings. I've found dev-related threads in the general section (see for instance android arm sdk thread, but there is other cases, I let you find it as an exercise ;-), where someone pointed out the problem "Omg dev thread into a general section !". I think there is a problem.
Because it's really annoying to see the dev section becomes a kind of closed area where you are only allowed to post rom or kernel, and without to be able to think about dev itself. Dev section, as its name points it, must allow to speak about dev related things, whatever are these things. And it's a mess when you want to search something dev-related and find it in the gen section.
Moreover, I don't like the iron fist policy, which threaten people to ban them. Threatening=Terror. Maybe mods are responsible too for this situation, where sometimes there is a lack of clarity. I'm not a newbie, and I've posted wrongly. I consider that there is a mismatch between the subforum name (dev) and the allowed content (rom/kernel only). Or if this is not rom/kernel only, there is a kind of quantic pattern, where you never really know if your post will be accepted or not.
For sake of clarity, I suggest to rename the dev section "custom rom and kernel", and to create a new general dev discussion ; or to open the present dev section to general dev-related discussion, without - please- threatening people to ban them if they are not posting something about custom rom or kernel. Really don't like this way to communicate, it's like mods have forgotten they were newbies some time ago posting in the wrong section. Educating people by threatening them : I don't believe that it works. Whatever.
That was my iron fist on the iron fist.
The development section is for posting actual development not questions about development or asking why eclipse isn't ported to ARM. If you have a development question then there is a question and answer forum. If you want to talk about apps and their development then post in apps and themes. The development section is for the development of roms and kernels and the actual tools for development.
As has been said 100's of times this is not a democracy and this is not for customer service. All anyone has to do is read the forum rules and search a little before posting the same question over and over again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249254
If that thread was actual developing of eclipse on arm then it would be development but its just a poll to see if the developers of eclipse should port it to arm.
HUGE difference
Ok, if this is not a democracy, but a dictature, I have nothing to add.
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Ok, if this is not a democracy, but a dictature, I have nothing to add.
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Familiarize yourself with the following:
FORUM RULES
XDA MANTRA
Another correct breakdown of XDA:
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XDA is a developers site
XDA is a free forum you are ALLOWED to use. We could make it invite only
XDA is and always will be about the developers. And before you say without the users there would be no XDA, Bull****, who do you think used the stuff before normal people even knew what a smartphone was......wait for it.........other developers. People that could give good feedback with relavent info. Not just "dahhh this is broken, please fix".
XDA is not a place to come and make your phone cool.
XDA is not the cool place for idiots to hang out.
XDA is not your friends house
XDA is not a democracy
XDA is not a place to make Money.
XDA IS a place to come to learn and share your knowledge. If you are not here for those reasons then you are here for the wrong ones.
I have watched XDA become a place where every dumbass in the world has a smartphone and comes here thinking they have the right to anything. Well guess what? You dont have the right to ****. We share it because we want to and we dont if we dont feel like it. Are the Developers or the Mods required to make you happy? Nope not in the least. Wanna leave. Go ahead. I beg you, please do. The less people that are asking dumb question cause they dont know what they are doing (this is understand, but at least look) or are too lazy to look for it the better.
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Closing this thread.
Hi guys,
ok, so, recently i have been browsing round the whole of the X8 forum and i think that we all need a little help.
Ok, so i am going to use bullet point everything that i think needs helping/discussing if you know what i mean .
This is NOT a guide. so here goes:
Thread redirection
So, recently, I have seen alot, and i mean ALOT of threads in the wrong sections.
So i am going to try and help you post in the correct sections
If you have a question, then obviously post it on the Q & A section,
but if you have a general question like this then it should be posted in the general section preferably.
BUT, any question related to ROM's, bugs and that kinda stuff, then post it in the Q&A section.
heres some examples: This thread belongs to the General section because it is not a question about the X8's hardware, or a question about ROM's etc its a question about your opinion (i mean, its a question about someones thoughts, who they think is the best developer, and the thread may be for fun ) and another thread that belongs in the general section is this thread.
However, threads that dont belong in the right sections usally get closed by the moderator.
So if you dont want your thread closed, try and follow the rules, by posting in correct sections.
More examples: this thread is a question about a bug (?) and he asked how to fix it. This is a question, but it was in the general section when it should be in the Q&A, and because of that, it got closed.
Well that about concludes that bullet point any questions? reply to this thread
Making threads that already exist
Yeah, most senior members kinda dread this. Now this problem usally comes from n00bs, but sometimes seniors do it.
Please guys! Use the search button! We cant stress how important this is to you. Plus, if you do keep making threads that already exist, then you have broken the XDA rules!
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Yeah, sometimes the search button doesn't work and wont come up with what your looking for, but then you have to Google it! Lets not make the same mistake over and over again eh? lets keep the X8 community SPAM free eh No more 'which ROM is best' threads. cheers guys
Are you new? or are you about to leave the community
So, are you a new member to our community? Or are you about to leave our community?
Well, before you go ahead and post a 'good bye thread', take a look at deedii's threads (thanks deedii )
Here are the links:
Deedii's 'Leaving? Post your farewell message here ' thread
Deedii's 'New Member? Introduce Yourself ' thread
thanks guys, thats kept our community alot cleaner
Trolling and/or Spamming
Ok, we all hate being trolled and our boards Spammed don't we?
Now, recently, i have had someone trolling one of my threads (mentioning no names). I didn't like it much. Now, I had a thought about this recently, and after a long time of thinking, i finally though, instead of saying bad things back, try to encourage them not to troll (good idea or not???). We all want trolls to leave, but instead of telling them to leave, try to encourage them to stay, but be a part of the good community.And spamming, try not to spam, dont post unhelpful things etc. thanks guys, hope we have no more spamming or trolling
So thats about it for now, but once i have more idea's of how to maybe improve things ( ) then i will edit this post. Thanks for your co-operation guys, i hope we become a more spam and troll free place
PLEASE NO trolling or spamming, if your gonna post, please post something constructive or/and nice. Maybe more ideas on how to improve
-wilbso
Any feedback?
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Any feedback?
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Seconded...that ok ?
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Its a good idea but its too long, most people wouldn't be bothered to read it.
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Its a good idea but its too long, most people wouldn't be bothered to read it.
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ok, i get your point, but it seems n00bs used to read my guides that went on forever....
And it wasn't really an idea, its just to help clear out future SPAM
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625939
That is what I'm talking about. That's one of the problems!!
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Considering there is no support to anyone using CheckROM on XDA as the thread was closed. I have created this thread for people to list issues with the ROM or any themes, fixes or general ROM related problems.
I tried this once before a moment ago but it was closed by conantroutman because he is a really cool guy and obviously incredibly intelligent and knows exactly what has happened.
Originally Posted by uppon2
Under what rights did you close that thread? It was a general discussion thread for CheckROM.
General discussion means anything general. I believe you have no grounds to stand on closing that thread. Prove me wrong
First of all, this "general discussion" thread is nothing more than a thinly veiled excuse for you to rant about the fact that this particular ROM is not being updated as quickly as you would like and/or because the developers have decided to focus on a newer device over the SGSII. That is their decision, deal with it.
As for the problem with checkrom.com, that's a checkrom.com issue not an XDA-Developers issue. Take it up via the proper channels. (Hint, XDA is not the proper channel)
As I said before, if you have an issue with somebody, resolve it via PM. Due to the way you have chosen to word the OP this thread would only lead to you being flamed and we wouldn't want that now would we?.
This is a development forum, not a place for gossip and idle chit chat.
These are the grounds upon which I stand, consider yourself proven wrong.
I appreciate that you're a little miffed so here's a particularly adorable kitten to cheer you up. Have a nice day.
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You forgot to post this PM I also sent to you
Uppon2 = I don't need to contact anybody by PM by the way? Why would I need to do that. I am just laying out the truth in a general fashion. I think every man and his dog have sent them many PMs and requests for an explanation about their lies. Don't come along all high and mighty without reason dude.
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He never responded to either of my PMs even considering that is what to do first. Instead he posted it in the thread like a hero and gave me no chance to defend myself.
I was never trying to say anything else other than GadgetCheck and Leomar hyped up an unreleased ROM encouraged people to donate and took donations only to not actually do anything they said they were going to do. They have a donate button for a reason. To encourage further development (Which was already told was happening months ago) and to also give them a pat on their backs for what they have done already. I know for a fact many users donated solely on the fact there was going to be an ICS release as soon as jkay was ready and then again in June (Both times it never happened)
Now you can close this thread again, you can ban me, mute me and do anthing your powers provide. It is just solidifying my argument about CheckROM and proving that you're a macho moderator.
I am putting money on it that this thread will be closed. THERE IS NO REASON TO CLOSE IT. I'm not taking peoples money and running. Let the public speak.
I am not trying to get unbanned from checkrom.com I don't even care, my point was to strengthen my original argument of being mislead. And proved it I did
If you had actually read everything in my original thread you would have still closed it but you wouldn't have replied the way you did mate.
Sigh.....
I'll just let the relevant forum moderator deal with this as I'm clearly wasting my time here. A legitimate general discussion thread would have been fine. Your personal grievances however, are not something we care about.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Sigh.....
I'll just let the relevant forum moderator deal with this as I'm clearly wasting my time here. A legitimate general discussion thread would have been fine. Your personal grievances however, are not something we care about.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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I see similar issues on Comodo so I know where you are coming from.
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Sigh.....
I'll just let the relevant forum moderator deal with this as I'm clearly wasting my time here. A legitimate general discussion thread would have been fine. Your personal grievances however, are not something we care about.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Guy. This is nothing to do with me. I didn't donate to them because I thought I was getting a new release. But a lot of other users did. If you read all of my evidence you will see me explaining this very point. I will keep the flames down this time around. I have said all I need to say. Thread is open for business (NOT FLAMING) just business. People need somewhere to ask questions. I would have asked on Checkrom.com but I am apparently banned for my kind words on XDA so I can't do that now can I
Just for your information there have already been 2 ICS ROMs made for SGS 3 http://checkrom.com/threads/gt-i9300-xxlf6-4-0-4-checkrom-evohd™-v2.822/
He's a senior mod. He did the right thing by closing the previous thread. You're out of line with the way you've 'spoken' to him. Expect the forum mods to close this one soon & consider yourself lucky if you don't get an infraction.
XDA isn't a democracy. You don't have 'rights'.
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One of the worst things you can do anywhere on the internet is post PMs. They're called Private for a reason. As you were told, XDA isn't the place for this discussion. Do not reopen the issue in open forum again. Doing so will be not cooperating with a moderator, and will result in an infraction against your account.
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One of the worst things you can do anywhere on the internet is post PMs. They're called Private for a reason. As you were told, XDA isn't the place for this discussion. Do not reopen the issue in open forum again. Doing so will be not cooperating with a moderator, and will result in an infraction against your account.
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To be fair, that wasn't a PM, just a direct copy of the previous thread...
Not that it really makes any difference.