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Can I upgrade from rc29 to cupcake?

Can I by not going through all the other firmwares?

yes rename it to update.zip and home+power and alt+s

A related question: it may be too early but has anyone tried going from the OTA 1.5 to RC29? Any reason why that wouldn't work?

Unitas said:
A related question: it may be too early but has anyone tried going from the OTA 1.5 to RC29? Any reason why that wouldn't work?
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People have been upgrading and downgrading since the birth of time , there are no issues when it comes to this, im assuming by RC29 your wanting to unroot??

Unitas said:
A related question: it may be too early but has anyone tried going from the OTA 1.5 to RC29? Any reason why that wouldn't work?
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I dunno yet maybe it has the same spl so we can downgrade to rc29 to root g1?

jrherras said:
I dunno yet maybe it has the same spl so we can downgrade to rc29 to root g1?
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That's really what I'm getting at, like say a person gets the OTA 1.5 and wants to root it. They would have the stock SPL. I don't think the stock SPL is a problem as I was running the lucid JF1.42 for a while and just loaded the hard SPL recently before I upgraded to the JF1.5 ADP. Just wondering if new customers and/or unrooted 1.5's will still be able to root their phones by flashing to RC29.
I know some people have unrooted their phones and loaded the OTA 1.5 just to check it out. No one has said if they were able to revert it back to a rooted build yet.

Dantehman said:
People have been upgrading and downgrading since the birth of time , there are no issues when it comes to this, im assuming by RC29 your wanting to unroot??
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I'm thinking ahead when most owners will have the OTA 1.5, wondering if they'll still be able to root by flashing to RC29.

upgrade/downgrade
Dantehman said:
People have been upgrading and downgrading since the birth of time , there are no issues when it comes to this, im assuming by RC29 your wanting to unroot??
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I have to agree. Shouldn't be a problem to upgrade or downgrade no matter what build its on.

parmijo11 said:
I have to agree. Shouldn't be a problem to upgrade or downgrade no matter what build its on.
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The only thing I can think of is the radio. I know it was causing some problems with one of the SPL's, and reflashing to RC29 has nothing to do with that. But I also read that reverting back to the old radio had caused problems, and I don't know if RC29 will boot with the new radio. This is assuming RC29 doesn't have a radio update of its own, I honestly don't know.

Yes you can. I had the RC33 and updated to the CRB17 the UK1.5 cupcake.
I lost myfaves and amazon. I gained a program called "web n walk"(T-Mobile's UK mobile store). Well, after that I received the 1.5 OTA CRB43 update I didn't get myfaves back or amazon. So...I downgraded to the RC29 then to a file called RC29 to RC33 update, finally to the US 1.5 CRB43. Now everything is the way it should be. No problem with the downgrade to RC29. From what I understand if you can get to RC29, everything from there is as it was.
Here's the link. It's about half way down the page in blue.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=AndroidDev&thread.id=4200
Clay

htcclay said:
Yes you can. I had the RC33 and updated to the CRB17 the UK1.5 cupcake.
I lost myfaves and amazon. I gained a program called "web n walk"(T-Mobile's UK mobile store). Well, after that I received the 1.5 OTA CRB43 update I didn't get myfaves back or amazon. So...I downgraded to the RC29 then to a file called RC29 to RC33 update, finally to the US 1.5 CRB43. Now everything is the way it should be. No problem with the downgrade to RC29. From what I understand if you can get to RC29, everything from there is as it was.
Here's the link. It's about half way down the page in blue.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=AndroidDev&thread.id=4200
Clay
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If you have UK 1.5 and want to update to US 1.5,
you can simply install US 1.5.
No inbetween steps required!

Unitas said:
That's really what I'm getting at, like say a person gets the OTA 1.5 and wants to root it. They would have the stock SPL. I don't think the stock SPL is a problem as I was running the lucid JF1.42 for a while and just loaded the hard SPL recently before I upgraded to the JF1.5 ADP. Just wondering if new customers and/or unrooted 1.5's will still be able to root their phones by flashing to RC29.
I know some people have unrooted their phones and loaded the OTA 1.5 just to check it out. No one has said if they were able to revert it back to a rooted build yet.
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I was able to revert back. I my phone was rooted and before jf made the us 1.5 rom I went back to original spl and rc29 just to install the US Tmo OTA update. And earlier this morning I just went back to rc29 to reroot so I could update to jf's 1.51us.
I didn't go straight from rc29, I at least flashed JF's rc33 before going to JF's 1.51-US.

ShadowFan2008 said:
If you have UK 1.5 and want to update to US 1.5,
you can simply install US 1.5.
No inbetween steps required!
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Yes you are correct... but you get the US cupcake with the UK web n walk and no amazon. The other needs to be done to change it all back.
Clay

Hey Guys,
i recently got root on my dream and updated from RC29 to RC33 1.1
which one should i be following to get to 1.5 CRB43 which is the latest US update right? can anyone link me to where i should go to do this.
Thanks guys!

ROOT - Official Verizon 2.1 OTA Upgrade - Eris

Thought that this would need to be created since the upgrade has begun. I have 2 Eris Droids on my account and 1 has received the update but not the other. It is possible that because the other has the v3 leak already maybe it will not update until there is an update beyond 2.1. I am in the Washington DC Metro area. Which has a HUGE Verizon base.
I am committed to finding the root for this. I will work on it myself and report any progress. If anyone else wants to contribute their findings...feel free...

Save for future use...1
Still have not achieved anything as of yet...

Save for future use...2
Save for future use...2

Save for future use...3
Save for future use...3

No one on any of the leaks has received the OTA update. Its possible they never will, as it has been stated the leaks have a higher HBOOT than the OTA. OF course if you ask the people on the VZWSupport on twitter they all claim that the leakers will receive it before the end of the OTA period. But since no one, as far as I know, on a leak has received it I will believe it when it happens. Just my 2 cents

I agree with you on that. Its our penalty for circumventing the VERIZON way...LOL

This thread is a bit superfluous, it has been confirmed you can root the OTA update the same way you could root 1.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
However, the leaked RUU updates changed the HBOOT version, where the OTA update did not. This means leakers are SOL, at least for the time being...

sorry wrong post lol

DEAd thread.
Version 3 of leak is almost identical (minus a few missing files that are not needed) to the OTA.
OTA users can root via 1.5 method.
Search function FTW.

jcase said:
DEAd thread.
Version 3 of leak is almost identical (minus a few missing files that are not needed) to the OTA.
OTA users can root via 1.5 method.
Search function FTW.
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Are you sayign Version 3 leaked can be rooted?

No, he is stating that if you went from 1.5 stock to 2.1 OTA you can root using the same method as the 1.5 -> 2.1 root.
If you have any of the leaked versions you cannot root yet.

Gervin said:
Are you sayign Version 3 leaked can be rooted?
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No. v3 changed the hboot version.

I am using a rooted version of 1.5 right now, I keep getting the message from Verizon if I want to update to 2.1 OTA.
Anyone know if could allow that update to download and would it work? Lets assume it does not work would it ruin my phone? Or worse case I just re-flash my phone back to rooted 1.5?
Reason I am using rooted 1.5 over any of the current rooted leaked 2.1 roms is the bluetooth is not working with my new car I picked up last weekend I am very curious to find out if the problem with bluetooth is a bug in 2.1 leaked versions or is also present in the official over the air version too.
Btw 1.5 rooted bluetooth works just fine. And my friend Droid and my wife blackberry work just fine so I know my car bluetooth is not the problem.

not only do people with the leak
not have to worry about getting the update, they also have to worry about losing their 3g, which is what happened to me when the official verizon ota update hit. lucky for me, the local store didnt know i root and ordered me a replacement since i was under warrantee. i think my rooted phone and verizon kept trying to push the ota update back to each other freezing up my 3g speed.

[Q] Stock updated Froyo 2.2 TO Liberated FR008 2.2.2?

Hey guys,
I'm sort of a newb with these phones but I am starting to learn. Last night I updated my stock phone on 2.1 to the stock Froyo 2.2. I then read about the FR008 and how much better it was, and I want to be able to update to this version instead of the 2.2 Froyo.
Is it possible to do this? I really don't want to brick my phone so any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. I have been looking through the Liberated Aria 2.2.2 thread along with this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819715
I downloaded the second one (liberated aria FR008) but haven't done anything yet.
Thanks!

You can't root because you updated to stock 2.2 which contains an unrootable hboot as of this time.
Signatures are fancy.

Moh_Jay said:
You can't root because you updated to stock 2.2 which contains an unrootable hboot as of this time.
Signatures are fancy.
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I thought you could root with unrevoked 3.32? didn't they add support in 3.2?
v3.2:
Added support for Froyo builds on all supported devices (thanks to Sebastian Krahmer)
Added support for the CDMA Desire
Optionally disables security on supported CDMA devices
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Support for Android OS 2.2 (Froyo) is different than having support for the underlying HBOOT version which needs a loophole to remain rooted. Along with the factory update of the OS, an HBOOT update was also tacked on closing the loophole and thus diminishing the ability to root.

jeebuz said:
Support for Android OS 2.2 (Froyo) is different than having support for the underlying HBOOT version which needs a loophole to remain rooted. Along with the factory update of the OS, an HBOOT update was also tacked on closing the loophole and thus diminishing the ability to root.
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So I'm guessing there's no possible way to redo the hboot sector? I shouldn't have done that update then. Oh well someone will figure out the root soon enough I hope

This is my phone's versions:
Android: 2.2.2
Baseband: 47.63.35.21.....
Kernel: 2.6.32.21
Build: 2.20.502
Software: 2.20.502.1
Is there any way I can go to a liberated froyo from where I am at?

Asked and answered already.
Moh_Jay said:
You can't root because you updated to stock 2.2 which contains an unrootable hboot as of this time.
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To make it a bit more clear, when you updated to 2.2, the update replaced the version of HBoot originally on the phone and root capable with an updated version that at this time cannot be rooted. Until an exploit is discovered, you're screwed.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Asked and answered already.
To make it a bit more clear, when you updated to 2.2, the update replaced the version of HBoot originally on the phone and root capable with an updated version that at this time cannot be rooted. Until an exploit is discovered, you're screwed.
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Ahh FML. Figures that I updated it a few hours before I discovered this stuff.

Damn, same here. I'm sure it will be figured out soon enough but I really miss my rooted aria.

I do feel your pain. I was worried that the Aria I was getting from AT&T for a penny was going to have 2.2 on it out of the box. If I didn't also have an unlocked Dell Streak coming in with 2.2 already installed on it, I'd say it was an unfounded fear. The Dell Streak started with 1.6.

I really should have known...
Some how I didn't even think about checking for the option to "go back" to my rooted phone. I feel like an idiot. This is sometimes the best way to learn. I await an update from those with the power
::sigh::

rooting with 2.3 gb

Hey guys I've rooted a few phones for my friends since I rooted mines but that's when we were all running 2.2 froyo now I have a friend who wants me to root his phone too but he had the update 2.3 gb so can I still use unrevoked, the same method as froyo or do I have to wait for a different method for gb

Flip35 said:
Hey guys I've rooted a few phones for my friends since I rooted mines but that's when we were all running 2.2 froyo now I have a friend who wants me to root his phone too but he had the update 2.3 gb so can I still use unrevoked, the same method as froyo or do I have to wait for a different method for gb
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As far as I know, there is no method available for rooting stock 2.3.
Got to wait. It will come.

Daaam, ok thanx I guess my buddy has to wait then, I told him to do it a few weeks back n he didn't want me to do it so now he'll have to wait...he should of done it when he had the chance

i thought i read a thread on here recently that said you could root by downgrading and then doing it. look around a lil n u will prob find it if u wanna try it out

{ParanoiA} said:
i thought i read a thread on here recently that said you could root by downgrading and then doing it. look around a lil n u will prob find it if u wanna try it out
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You can only downgrade to 2.2 if you have s-off. The new 2.16 bootloader will not accept any known RUU, downgrade, or any other root method currently. I even tried to do the "old" GoldCard method, and of course, that didn't work either.
Here is the write up if interested on how to downgrade with s-off.........
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-gingerbread-2-3/
Check out the 4th comment, by Julian. Pretty much sums it up.........
"This procedure WILL NOT work if you have unrooted your Evo and updated via OTA from sprint!! New bootloader interface is included with the new RUU (2.3.3) which prevents recovery mode launch, reverting back to a prior ROM, or rooting"

you can root it if your bootloader says s-off, just flash recovery in a pc36img file and flash superuser for 2.3

skyline247 said:
You can only downgrade to 2.2 if you have s-off. The new 2.16 bootloader will not accept any known RUU, downgrade, or any other root method currently. I even tried to do the "old" GoldCard method, and of course, that didn't work either.
Here is the write up if interested on how to downgrade with s-off.........
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-gingerbread-2-3/
Check out the 4th comment, by Julian. Pretty much sums it up.........
"This procedure WILL NOT work if you have unrooted your Evo and updated via OTA from sprint!! New bootloader interface is included with the new RUU (2.3.3) which prevents recovery mode launch, reverting back to a prior ROM, or rooting"
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thanks for this!

Well my friends phone has never been rooted so he wants to rooted so can I still go back to 2.2 using the methods y'all posted here

The new bootloader does not prevent recovery from launching. You can either turn off fastboot on settings-applications or instead of power off, choose reboot and start holding down vol-down when the screen goes black
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The new bootloader does not prevent recovery from launching. You can either turn off fastboot on settings-applications or instead of power off, choose reboot and start holding down vol-down when the screen goes black
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So ur saying I NEED TO GET TO BOOTLOADER to b able to do it right???

Flip35 said:
So ur saying I NEED TO GET TO BOOTLOADER to b able to do it right???
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If the phone has never been rooted before, then you are going to be S-on. Since you have the new bootloader, AND you have S-on, there is nothing you can do to root the phone at this time. You cannot downgrade to 2.2, you cannot downgrade the bootloader. The only thing you'll be able to do is wait until someone figures out how to get S off on the new bootloader, or if someone figures out a way to downgrade the bootloader. The only way you can downgrade back to 2.2, is if the bootloader is S off. Also, if the bootloader was S off, downgrading to froyo to 'reroot' is a complete waste of time. All you need to do is flash a PC36IMG of a recovery image, and then use that recovery to flash a new rom. That's it. Anything more than that is a total waste of time, and a bunch of steps that don't need to be taken.
So, unfortunately, all you can do is wait until someone figures out a way around the new bootloader.

bootloader!!

kingdazy said:
As far as I know, there is no method available for rooting stock 2.3.
Got to wait. It will come.
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Only option that I have found is to take it back to 2.2 and flash gingerbread rom, I personally only use z4root so ill have to wait

Desdoulas said:
Only option that I have found is to take it back to 2.2 and flash gingerbread rom, I personally only use z4root so ill have to wait
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AGAIN......for those who just don't get it......
"This procedure WILL NOT work if you have unrooted your Evo and updated via OTA from sprint!! New bootloader interface is included with the new RUU (2.3.3) which prevents recovery mode launch, reverting back to a prior ROM, or rooting"
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Wow, don't you just hate repeating yourself?

HipKat said:
Wow, don't you just hate repeating yourself?
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I think it might sink in eventually. Probably the day after a root method is found for Gingerbread.

k2buckley said:
If the phone has never been rooted before, then you are going to be S-on. Since you have the new bootloader, AND you have S-on, there is nothing you can do to root the phone at this time. You cannot downgrade to 2.2, you cannot downgrade the bootloader. The only thing you'll be able to do is wait until someone figures out how to get S off on the new bootloader, or if someone figures out a way to downgrade the bootloader. The only way you can downgrade back to 2.2, is if the bootloader is S off. Also, if the bootloader was S off, downgrading to froyo to 'reroot' is a complete waste of time. All you need to do is flash a PC36IMG of a recovery image, and then use that recovery to flash a new rom. That's it. Anything more than that is a total waste of time, and a bunch of steps that don't need to be taken.
So, unfortunately, all you can do is wait until someone figures out a way around the new bootloader.
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Yea man the phone has never been rooted, is for my buddy n I told him to come to my house to get it rooted before the update he was procrastinating n now he's stuck but thanx a lot for the info everybody

skyline247 said:
AGAIN......for those who just don't get it......
"This procedure WILL NOT work if you have unrooted your Evo and updated via OTA from sprint!! New bootloader interface is included with the new RUU (2.3.3) which prevents recovery mode launch, reverting back to a prior ROM, or rooting"
No need to be rude kid, I watched a buddy install a ruu that worked perfectly, took about 20 min he was back to 2.2, there is a few youtube vids on it, I didn't do the code for it but I did watch it work to my disbelief, I said the same thing you did that there was no way
Sent from HTC_SUPERSONIC EVO
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Then link us to this magical youtube video.

Kid? I'm 41 years old. I wasn't being rude. The same question was asked several times, so I was just restating the obvious. My goal on here is not to be rude, unlike many others, but to actually help. And I am sorry if you perceived as such.
Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but there is NO way to root if you have 2.3 AND the new 2.16 bootloader. Either you have S=off and run an RUU to get back to Froyo, or you do not have the new 2.16 bootloader.
That is all.

[WIP]Temp-root Gingerbread EVOs

my evo is rooted already and i havent paid much atention since i got my 3d but was there an HBOOT update in the GB OTA as compared to the last Froyo 3.70?
If there wasnt, anyone should be able to a simple downgrade with a previous RUU and then use any of the working root methods for froyo.
just a thought i had while being bored.

Nope, new bootloader is locked. Cant downgrade.

EVOlvedAndroid said:
Nope, new bootloader is locked. Cant downgrade.
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so there was a bootloader update?

I really don't even know what to say anymore. I give up. Someone else can do it.

github said:
I really don't even know what to say anymore. I give up. Someone else can do it.
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+1 thats all i have to say about that

what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root

t3project said:
what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
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The short version is there is no way around or tricking the bootloader. Pretty much every way imaginable to do this has been tried a bunch of times. We need to find a new exploit to get in. Several devs are working on it and itay happen soon. Seems to be more problematic than any one expected.

firket2000 said:
The short version is there is no way around or tricking the bootloader. Pretty much every way imaginable to do this has been tried a bunch of times. We need to find a new exploit to get in. Several devs are working on it and itay happen soon. Seems to be more problematic than any one expected.
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yes, but you're not tricking the bootloader. the bootloader remains the same. the sys image is all you are changing and the signatures should remain intact if it is pulled out of a froyo ruu. for that matter even try placing a rooted OTA sys image in it. this would not gain s-off but you could run a shell root and su if it would work.

t3project said:
what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
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As far as I understand, the new bootloader won't allow for downgrading or flashing anything that doesn't match HTCs signature....so modifying files is out of the question....
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t3project said:
what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
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Can't do that, it would break HTC's signature and the bootloader would not accept it

I need to save this response in a text file so I can just copy and paste it every day.
You can't modify the contents of a RUU provided by HTC on an S-ON HBOOT. The zip is signed by HTC with their private key. The HBOOT has the public key. Changing just 1 bit on the zip will invalidate the private key and HBOOT won't allow it to flash. This is the reason for wanting S-OFF, so you can flash anything via HBOOT (Recovery, for example) without any signature checks.
You also can't downgrade the HBOOT, as it will give you an error about an earlier version.
All the obvious ideas have been tried, over and over again over the past few months since the new update hit.
If you are still confused, please see this article on Wikipedia about Public Key Cryptography.

Don't forget to add that goldcards and battery pull microsd swaps do not work either.

Well, eff. I switched back to Sprint and back to the EVO today after a (very unpleasant) experience with T-MO and the G2X, only to find out my brand new EVO is already on Gingerbread and can't be rooted, ruling out the best part about owning an EVO... all the awesome custom ROMs. Lovely.

There's been all types of shenanigans occurring trying to root this thing. Including physically planting in the ground. No root from that either. Appreciate where you're coming from and trying to help and all though

jjones1983 said:
Well, eff. I switched back to Sprint and back to the EVO today after a (very unpleasant) experience with T-MO and the G2X, only to find out my brand new EVO is already on Gingerbread and can't be rooted, ruling out the best part about owning an EVO... all the awesome custom ROMs. Lovely.
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Its being worked on right now so no worries
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I'm rooted but jw is there any news on when that source will be out?
My stupid friends at work wouldn't let me root their froyo and now want to pay me to root their gb I don't even want $ .
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