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Hero Lag

does anybody have a major problem with hero lagging. It is really annoying. I was wondering if rooting the hero can fix this problem. If not do you guys think the 2.1 update will fix it.

What ROM are you running? What apps do you normally have running in the background? Are you using a Task Killer that automatically kills apps on a set time frame? Have you tried doing a factory reset/wipe to see if it makes a difference? And finally, where do you see the lag the most? Is it in a particular application, or are you judging the "lagginess" based on moving back and forth from your home screens in SenseUI?
Answering ALL of these questions will help us understand what you're seeing a little better. Your question is a little vague, and your answers will probably help you get some more support from folks on here.
Thanks!

My phone was laggy too. I rooted it and put the fresh rom on it and I saw a big improvement in overall performance. Still not as fast as my old iphone 3gs, but I would never go back. I also don't use task manager anymore. It always runs in the background and drains your battery faster.

I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..

tyrnight said:
I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
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Yeah handcent killed me, made the phone not just a dog, but a wounded dog born with 2 legs. 10x worse than the stock hero app, which is bad.

I'm running handcent, but I haven't noticed any specific slowdowns from it. It can take a while to load the main handcent screen when you have lots and lots of texts in there, but I usually clear them out when I get over 100 or so anyway.

Check to see that you have the most recent version of Handcent. I think I read that there was a performance bug related to their special "with Christmas animations" holiday release (that has since been fixed).
Also, remember to clear the boot-cache directory and reboot after upgrading apps ('rm -r /data/boot-cache/*'; reboot). The Hero has problems with caching apps after upgrades (so you aren't actually running the upgrade version). I have no idea if this was fixed in the newer ROMS. I'm running Fresh and still do it, as it only takes a sec (if you have the android-sdk and root set up).

Turning off HandCent popup notifications resulted in a substantial performance increase for me. Which is good, as I really like the features HC adds (such as voice-to-text).

I had the latest version and it was always cleared out sms wise. and I never used popup notifications.. they were annoying.. and I just got a fresh replacement of the Hero (warrantee) and its still on stock rom and Handcent still killed it.. in one day..

i have not rooted, pure stock phone. only app i think runs in background is email and loopt
I notice the lag from everything to sense UI to the clock taking 2-3 secs to update to my contacts scrolling, to text message lag, to calling even lags. like anything and everything can lag.

It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.

on your location settings turn off "network location" then reboot..your lag will be gone...and make sure you have a task manager installed too and end your apps so they take over your processor

Task managers are a waste of time.

Sawawa said:
Task managers are a waste of time.
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I agree with this statement.

Sawawa said:
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
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This is very true. I was running the 2.1 build from here the last few days (thought I had to revert due to missing some texts and voicemail) and it's much speedier. It uses the HTC keyboard, but it's much faster in its response, almost instantaneous. The location bug really does suck up a lot of CPU time.
Also, maybe its just me, but I think it's important to remember the kind of device we're using, the hardware involved, and what you're asking it to do. It's not like you're walking around with a quad core CPU and 4GB of RAM in your pocket, but it seems a lot of people think it should respond as if that's what it has. It's a phone, yes, and it should be able to do phone stuff quickly if possible, but look at all it can and is doing. If you need absolute speed, get a dumb phone that can't browse the web, play games, or do just about anything. It'll run just fine.

handcent never made my phone lag. The only thing that made my phone lag was HTC's battery widget. Damn thing slowed my phone down so I uninstalled it and phone is running back fast again. I still use task manager because I do notice once to many apps are open it lags. Don't care what anyone says it happens on my phone. I do have a lot of applications on ignore though.

Try disabling Location services.

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I agree with this statement.
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I used to wholeheartedly disagree with this statement, until I read a kickass article explaining how Android actively manages memory.
Now, I also agree with this statement 100%. I don't even use my paid task manager app anymore. :/

Is Anyone else experiencing lagg from Super D 1.9.3?

When I first rooted my G1 I rooted to Super D 1.9.2 and thats when I realized my G1 still has balls. Now ever since I updated to 1.9.3 it is very slow and laggy. I even wiped and flashed about three times; once a direct update from 1.9.2, once a full wipe the flashed from sd card with redownloaded ROM, and once a flash without wiping from 1.9.2.
Also everytime I use nandroid or backup for root users my G1 goes into bootloop.

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have you tried the version with WG-beta 3 kernal yet?
Do you have any swap or cc enabled? If so, how much of either and/or both? Have you tried different settings? What about turning both off?(thats the best in my opinion)
Are you using jit Hack? Correctly installed? (hence all the threads and post going around with everybody's method of using it, and roms with it packaged,lol)--EDIT: also found to be unstable and a ram hog-Cyan
Is home screen in memory or out? (better out if you don't use a lot of widgets)
You wiped 3 times huh?, Did you full or half a** wipe?(meaning data,dalv,ext,battery and rotate settings-thats full wipe) well have you also repaired ext?, fixed permissions?, re-partitioned?, re-flashed 1.6 base?(helps, sometimes.)
Did you flash any 3rd party packaged or compiled zips over it? such as boot.imgs, themes, launchers and stuff like that? (if so, that could be the problem)
Did you reboot at least once after a fresh install? if not, Please do. Usually by second or third boot, everything is running smooth.
How many apps you got? Have you installed any new ones since the lagging started to happen? (if so, get rid of them, or re-install them, that should clear any bad data and cache carried along with it)
Have you tried customizing yourself? Some folks like to push the old contact apk because the newer versions have too many features, causing slow downs
Have you un-installed any eclair or useless system apps?
Are you killing unwanted background processes properly?
ok now....before you attempt to answer any of these questions with a reply or quote...STOP I don't want or expect a response, these questions are what you should be asking yourself, and sometimes that can help you solve your own problems, by taking all of these concepts into consideration, and re-evaluating them for different results.
all in all, the most important question you should ask yourself, DID YOU SEND A DETAILED LOGCAT TO THE DEVELOPER HIMSELF (BEN) BEFORE POSTING THIS THREAD COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS WORK?
if not, then Im sure you will figure out what to do from here , good day sir.

Thanks for your time I guess its te for me to get working.
I just remembered that everytime I use backup for root useres it kills my phone and shuts it off then it becomes slow.

I tried out Super D w/ wg-kernel 2 days ago and found it pretty laggy. For some reason installing apps would take forever and my navigation app wouldn't install at all.

1337rolla said:
I tried out Super D w/ wg-kernel 2 days ago and found it pretty laggy. For some reason installing apps would take forever and my navigation app wouldn't install at all.
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what do you use to install your apps? the market or a backup tool?

1337rolla said:
I tried out Super D w/ wg-kernel 2 days ago and found it pretty laggy. For some reason installing apps would take forever and my navigation app wouldn't install at all.
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I have that problem too.

I install apps with astro and adb. Both are equally slow because I'm pretty sure it is using the sd card only and avoiding using internal memory at all costs... bit too aggressive of a setup. I think my navigation app failed to install correctly because some part of the installer was time sensitive and writing to the sd card went over the clock limit

I've had ****ty market performance in every ROM I've used. Market in SuperD w/ WG Kernel behaves exactly the same for me. Installing using ASTRO works excellent for me, however. No CC/Swap. JIT enabled.

yeah I got astro too...never tried installing system apps with it though....I mostly use root explorer, but hey, either way...tomato - tomatto....all the same.

I too found Super D 1.9.3 runs really laggy on my G1. I tried all sorts of compcache settings (including off) and started using Adv Task Manager to end non-required apps regularly but it made no difference
Strangely, I then flashed it to my Magic and found it's alot smoother. Maybe not as fast as Dwang but still pretty smooth. Wes Garner reckons the only thing which will slow down a 32B G1 compared to a 32B Magic is Apps2SD.
I did not wipe battery and rotate info on either phone, I didn't think that would cause any problems, though the G1 has had a longer life so perhaps that's the issue.

Super Jamie said:
I too found Super D 1.9.3 runs really laggy on my G1. I tried all sorts of compcache settings (including off) and started using Adv Task Manager to end non-required apps regularly but it made no difference
Strangely, I then flashed it to my Magic and found it's alot smoother. Maybe not as fast as Dwang but still pretty smooth. Wes Garner reckons the only thing which will slow down a 32B G1 compared to a 32B Magic is Apps2SD.
I did not wipe battery and rotate info on either phone, I didn't think that would cause any problems, though the G1 has had a longer life so perhaps that's the issue.
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always wipe battery and rotate setting when going to a different rom, you don't have to do it if you are updating, or just flashing over the current rom, but if you are going to a whole new build, meaning different kernel or base like from 1.6 to 2.1 for example, wipe the battery and rotate settings.

Klyentel said:
always wipe battery and rotate setting when going to a different rom, you don't have to do it if you are updating, or just flashing over the current rom, but if you are going to a whole new build, meaning different kernel or base like from 1.6 to 2.1 for example, wipe the battery and rotate settings.
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Cool, thanks for the tip

do you got on swap or compcache???? i dont hav on either and my fone is fast as hell

some issues that are bugging me...need your input

hey guys. i'm a very nitpicky person and there has been a few "issues" that have been ticking at me lately. i wanted to ask to see if it's an issue with my rom (OMJ v3.1 odex) or just general issues with the phone that I have to live with.
1) for a 1ghz phone, it takes FOREVER to load. i'm usually anywhere from 15 to 45 seconds on the splash screen, after which the boot animation plays and maybe 10-15 seconds after the animation ends the phone starts to load....but it goes into the lock screen, and i have to unlock it, and then a million things start opening up, so that from screen off to fully loaded and ready to make a phone call the phone takes at least 1 minute, sometimes close to 2 minutes.
EDIT: just timed it - 45 seconds on splash screen, 25 seconds from end of boot animation to lock screen
i'm coming from a 667mhz WM6.1 phone that would boot, animation and all, be ready to call in 30 seconds or less.
i can live with the time it takes to load if it was normal...but then I hear things on here on how the evo loads in 8 seconds and i'm looking at mine and wondering what's wrong
is this a rom issue (OMJ v3.1 odex), kernel issue (king's #6), android (2.2), phone in general, or a result of all the different things we install on our phones (adblockers, superuser, custom flash, custom boot, etc)?
2) when the phone loads it always opens the dialer. i go back into home screen. throughout the day at least once or twice the dialer will randomly open on its own when i unlock my screen.
3) wi-fi at home is secured through wep2...but at school is unsecured to connect, but then you need to authenticate through the browser. sometimes this works, sometimes the browser (dolphin hd) just stays loading and doesnt take me to the authetication page...and the only way around is it to disable and enable wifi again. then everything is perfect.
is this a rom issue? or a dolphin hd issue?
4) I have LauncherProPlus with their custom icons from the website. whenever i restart the phone the icons for Dolphin HD, Documents to Go, MixZing and Pandora change to their standard icons. i have to restart launcherpro and they go to the matching icons i have throughout the homescreens. then at random points those three icons revert back to the stock icons, and i have to restart launcher pro.
is this a LP problem, a rom problem, or a me-specific problem?
5) perhaps the most important issue - i have problems downloading and installing certain apps in the market. I paid for lcd density changer and installed it. uninstalled it later on. now i'm trying to reinstall and I keep getting an installation unsuccesful message...same thing goes for Rom Manager (which i have installed, but installation unsuccessful with update), and many others. Some programs will update, some wont. Today I tried to download 3d gallery through the market and keep getting that issue.
this has happened with other programs in the past, where I thought maybe they werent meant for the EVO...but many of those had comments from EVO users??? and now some of those programs that wont install are programs I HAD or I HAVE installed!!!
is this a rom specific issue? or a market issue? or an odex issue? or does it have anything to do with having app2sd and move2sd enabler on the phone? none of the programs in question have been moved to the sd card...obviously not the ones like 3d gallery that I haven't yet installed.
so, thank you for reading through all that. any help in either of the issues will be greatly appreciated.
if most of the issues are rom-related i will go hunting for a new, stable rom. if they're general woes that come with owning the Evo then I guess i need to know that too.
thanks in advance!

I can't really help you much in terms of a solution, but coming from a Blackberry the EVO boot time seems very fast! However, the EVO is definitely not an 8 second loader, I don't know where you got that information.
is this a rom issue (OMJ v3.1 odex), kernel issue (king's #6), android (2.2), phone in general, or a result of all the different things we install on our phones (adblockers, superuser, custom flash, custom boot, etc)?
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This is just a guess, but I'd say it's the ROM you're using. Have you tried anything else? Make a nandroid backup of your phone now, then flash another ROM and test it out, it's easy to revert with the nandroid backup. Keep in mind the first time you load any newly flashed ROM it will take longer than normal to boot.
In my experience, stock 2.2 and all its OTA updates (and the ROM I use that is based on the latest OTA) are pretty good when it comes to boot times. Anything you install may have the potential to slow things down.
I'm currently using the VaelPak 2.2 ROM with the latest HTC kernel (no 30FPS limitation) which is very stable and very fast. VaelPak stripped out some of sense (not all) and I love how you have the choice between HTC/Sense elements or AOSP. For example, I actually like the HTC dialer, messaging, and contacts.

thanks.
i guess i'm going to have to flash a new rom...but it'll have to wait till next week!
i'll look into the different roms but i had thought of flashing CM6 since I'm not using any sense other than the dialer as far as i know
thanks
any other opinions are welcome!

Max_Pain said:
4) I have LauncherProPlus with their custom icons from the website. whenever i restart the phone the icons for Dolphin HD, Documents to Go, MixZing and Pandora change to their standard icons. i have to restart launcherpro and they go to the matching icons i have throughout the homescreens. then at random points those three icons revert back to the stock icons, and i have to restart launcher pro.
is this a LP problem, a rom problem, or a me-specific problem?
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Are all of those apps saved on your SD Card? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

yes all four apps are in the sd card. i was using pandora and plugged the phone in to my pc to try to install that 3dgallerym.apk i found on here. pandora stopped (i'm assuming as the sd card was unmounted). after unplugging and the card was remounted i was able to open pandora again...but then the 4 icons had reverted again.
i'm starting to think that is a lp issue. i'll send a message to the developer see what he says about it.

Max_Pain said:
i'm starting to think that is a lp issue. i'll send a message to the developer see what he says about it.
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FYI they have their own forum. You should see if it has already been answered there.
http://www.launcherpro.com/forum/

The boot up taking so long is do to custom roms being deodexed.. It puts the odex file into the apks so that you can theme a rom without any problems. Stock roms arent deodexed so they boot up a lot faster. Its the only downside to deodexing a rom.
Also you should try to start fresh.. wipe data and dalvik and reboot. Then see if you have a problems with downloading and stuff. It might be cache left on the phone messing it up. If a clean data/dalvik wipe doesnt fix your problems then its most likely the rom or user error. Try a different rom for couple weeks and see if you come across the same problems.

My rom is odexed...
Im going to try cm6 next week most likely...
Swyped from an HTC Evo on MetroPCS...

First off, are you running a task killer or manager? If so, uninstall and reboot. A lot of the time this is the source of problems. Android manages its own tasks quite well. I can go into a lot more details if you'd like about why you shouldn't use one.
If not using a task killer or that did not help....
I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI. Personally, I love Fresh ROM. The dev came from the Hero like me and has a very very good track record for being stable and fixing things. And he is a cool guy.
Install one of those and then post back if you still have problems. I think this will fix it.
BTW did you flash from another ROM and use a backup app to restore? This can cause problems with ROMs that have different settings and options.
As for boot times, like the earlier guy said deodexed ROMs do extra stuff while booting. Also, lots of apps can cause slow boots because they start up on boot. You can use an app to disable them.
And last, app not installing. Hit menu-settings-applications-manage applications. Hit the SD tab and see if those apps show up. If so, click on them and uninstall. This will most like fix that issue.
Post back results here or if you need further help. We will be glad to help.
-Ken
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Pandora has always been glitchy. Its a great service, but they need a new programmer.
8 second phone. I think not. Try the Desire Z (G2), their version of Froyo looks faster.
If your new to the EVO, give it some time. Its a smartphone, and anyone with experience knows that all smartphones are temperamental some times, just like computers.

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Pandora has always been glitchy. Its a great service, but they need a new programmer.
8 second phone. I think not. Try the Desire Z (G2), their version of Froyo looks faster.
If your new to the EVO, give it some time. Its a smartphone, and anyone with experience knows that all smartphones are temperamental some times, just like computers.
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i've been on the evo for a little over a month now getting into it hard...i've learned too much too quickly...but yeah i definitely see the "like computers" temperamental issues at times.
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First off, are you running a task killer or manager? If so, uninstall and reboot. A lot of the time this is the source of problems. Android manages its own tasks quite well. I can go into a lot more details if you'd like about why you shouldn't use one.
not using any task manager. used to have advanced task killer but someone else recommended uninstalling it before.
If not using a task killer or that did not help....
I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI. Personally, I love Fresh ROM. The dev came from the Hero like me and has a very very good track record for being stable and fixing things. And he is a cool guy.
im considering CM6 because i barely use any sense apps. mainly flashlight, clock and htc lockscreen. i'm on metropcs so i cant use 4G and i dont have a HDTV so no need for HDMI
Install one of those and then post back if you still have problems. I think this will fix it.
BTW did you flash from another ROM and use a backup app to restore? This can cause problems with ROMs that have different settings and options.
have not done that...and now i know not to do it when i change roms.
As for boot times, like the earlier guy said deodexed ROMs do extra stuff while booting. Also, lots of apps can cause slow boots because they start up on boot. You can use an app to disable them.
And last, app not installing. Hit menu-settings-applications-manage applications. Hit the SD tab and see if those apps show up. If so, click on them and uninstall. This will most like fix that issue.
well the problem is 1) if the app is in my sd card, i dont need to uninstall it, just move it to the phone and then i can update it. but i have over 100 apps installed, it is not practical to do this for every update for every app! 2)some apps, like LCD Density Changer, which I paid and had installed before, wont install at all and i dont have it installed...so what there?
Post back results here or if you need further help. We will be glad to help.
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i think i'm definitely changing roms....just have to consider if i want to get a stock rom or go to cm6

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I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI.
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The OP's sig says he has his EVO on MetroPCS; if that's the case then lack of 4G shouldn't be a concern.
That's the only real thing keeping me from trying CM6, even though there are only a few pockets of 4G coverage where I live.

Well I switched roms to ava v9 and some of the issues seem to have gone away...but still having problems installing apps from market...many if the apps and games I had before on my previous rom give an installation unsuccessful message...
Im thinking it may be something I damaged by installing htc and sprint apps right after flashing the rom...I'm going to restore all those files and see what happens...
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Froyo + Epic = Amazing Phone

Okay, I'm sure a bunch of people have been having problems with their froyo upgrades... But I have had nothing short of an amazing day with my first 24 hours of Froyo on the Epic. So I am making this thread so we can highlight the POSITIVE changes that froyo has brought us Epic owners.
I have discovered a few cool things that Froyo brings, and I am sure there are more. Let's get a list compiled of all the positives:
What I have discovered so far:
1) Battery life ( see attached photo) - it is so much better than 2.1. I can't believe it's the same phone, battery!
2) The screen rotates left or right now into landscape mode. I was always astonished on 2.1 that it didn't do that.
3) Apps 2 SD. Long talked about, but awesome when it's finally here. I have a bunch of apps and I have 390Mb open on my phone. My wife has 412Mb open on her Epic. #4 is helped by this
4) The phone runs smoother. Of course Linpack scores of 13.92 prove it, but I haven't had any screen lag or lag when opening the app drawer or in typical use the way my Epic got laggy on 2.1 before. Apps 2 SD definitely helps clear up phone memory for every day use.
5) Colorized menus. It may seem trivial, but now I realize just how drab the menus were previously. The icons 'pop' with the color added to them.
6) Separate Sound and Display options in the settings menu.
7) Flash. 'nuf said on that one! Huge improvement over 2.1.
8) Improved Gmail and Youtube.
*the rest will be either new finds by me, or contributions w/ credit.
9) Pinch whatever home screen you are on to reveal all home screens. (thanks styckx)
10) I just discovered that we finally have copy/paste options of text that WE choose! When you are in a field where you have been typing and you click in that field, you get a blue slider button. You can slide that button to whatever starting point you want in your text, and then you can choose to edit and you can highlight, copy, paste, etc only the portions of text you want, not just a copy all option like before! This is a huge improvement over 2.1. Text select was the only thing I missed from my Blackberry, and now we have that too. Not in all situations, but at least it makes editing your current text so much easier.
11) I read it somewhere else before, but just verified it works. If you swipe to the right on a contact in your messages list, it automatically calls them. If you swipe to the left, it automatically starts you up for a text reply. Genius!
12) Robust stock audio player with tons more features. (thanks again styckx)
Okay, I know I am missing things that even I have already discovered and don't remember. 2.2 seems a lot more than a .x update. It's not just 1 or 2 minor tweaks like we have seen previously. Please post anything you have noticed about Froyo that adds to the Epic experience!
* I know there are some things about it people don't like. I am unable to swipe on the notification bar to increase/decrease brightness. I really enjoyed that feature. Feel free to post what you don't like about Froyo also. But I would like to concentrate on tips, tricks, improvements, etc. that Froyo has brought us!

Pinch your home screen

As great as froyo is, there are a lot of probs with it.
Random services keep appearing.
Samsung widgets disappear occasionally
Wifi not working at times (not sure if that's my connection)
Idk, I'm just curious, what measures are you taking on battery life?
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About all the bad I've noticed with the latest DK28 build is the auto-rotate is REALLY slow, and it doesn't seem to auto-rotate when on the main screen (only seems to rotate when I am in the "settings" menu). I had some odd issues with DK17 where it didn't like to delete messages from my Activesync accoutn that appears to be fixed in DK28.

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that's so great! adding to OP
acer1096xxx said:
As great as froyo is, there are a lot of probs with it.
Wifi not working at times (not sure if that's my connection)
Idk, I'm just curious, what measures are you taking on battery life?
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I have been on wi-fi since last night. Not a single issue for me regarding that. Yet. So it may be your wi-fi.
As far as battery goes, I am straight stock everything, no battery juice defender sipper type apps or anything. Just rooted, with no Sprint apps. Nothing special.
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About all the bad I've noticed with the latest DK28 build is the auto-rotate is REALLY slow, and it doesn't seem to auto-rotate when on the main screen (only seems to rotate when I am in the "settings" menu). I had some odd issues with DK17 where it didn't like to delete messages from my Activesync accoutn that appears to be fixed in DK28.
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I am getting the auto-rotate to work both ways on the home screens, and it takes maybe .2 seconds to do it. Maybe try and wipe and re-flash? Just a suggestion.

I am getting lag at random times. Sometimes the phone will just freeze for like 30 seconds as launcherpro slowly crashes. Rotation is slow, 5 seconds i mean come on. Wifi has been weirdish, might have fixed itself. So far, no where NEAR as smooth as stock DI18. Eclair on the epic was AMAZINGLY smooth and polished.
I like the new features, but there is no way that DK28 is ready for primetime. They need to do a lot of bug fixing on this to make it anywhere near as smooth as other phones running 2.2 that I have seen.
Also, I installed it correctly and several different ways, so its not a bad flash. I am currently running Stock DK28 with root and clockworkmod that was ODIN flashed from stock DI18 which I ODIN flashed. GPS is working.

One thing I really like a lot is the new Audio player. EQ, Visualizer, audio "effects", much better navigating of albums and artists.
I mean, I own PowerAmp which is THE BEST audio player period, but the new default audio player is leaps and bounds better than the old one and is fantastic for default (free).

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One thing I really like a lot is the new Audio player. EQ, Visualizer, audio "effects", much better navigating of albums and artists.
I mean, I own PowerAmp which is THE BEST audio player period, but the new default audio player is leaps and bounds better than the old one and is fantastic for default (free).
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Agreed. The features are all here. Now it just needs to be polished and smoothed out like the original Eclair builds were.

Bluetooth dialing is busted. Media hub wants to upgrade, but there is no upgrade. On the plus, my gps works now. I don't care what anyone says. This is a beta for hardware level.4 phone to test. I think we will see a newer release pushed to our phones.

I'm just going to keep it. It's stable and usable enough until the real (and hopefully more refined and stable) release is sent.
I'm sick of flashing and restocking my phone. I'm thinking a upgrade from DK28 to the real release won't require the dreaded WIPE WIPE WIPE and a rube goldberg puzzle to get the GPS to work.
If for some stupid, company killing reason DK28 as it stands now really is going to be the official release, I will go back to 2.1 and stay there. We'll see.

fczeuner said:
Media hub wants to upgrade, but there is no upgrade.
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Flash this zip in Clockwork to get the updated Media Hub.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9266549&postcount=10

Muckrak3r said:
* I know there are some things about it people don't like. I am unable to swipe on the notification bar to increase/decrease brightness. I really enjoyed that feature. Feel free to post what you don't like about Froyo also. But I would like to concentrate on tips, tricks, improvements, etc. that Froyo has brought us!
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Hey OP you might want to try that again because I'm on froyo and can still increase/decrease the brightness using the notification slide-bar technique. The bar may hide but if you move your finger left or right even when its already gone you should see the brightness change.

Mine doesn't change orientation either unless I'm in a program. If I'm in a program, it's instant pretty much..on the homescreen I've waited and the only way I can get it to change is by flipping open my keyboard.

All of this is overshadowed by my sd not working after the update there by rendering most apps useless
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Seems to be working good for me so far. The only thing annoying thus far is the lag in bringing it from sleep with the power button. There's a second or 2 delay before the screen comes on after you hit power. In 2.1 it was nearly instantaneous.

Im not getting it to rotate to the right,
Running the loaded Syndicate ROM

AndroidIsEpic said:
Hey OP you might want to try that again because I'm on froyo and can still increase/decrease the brightness using the notification slide-bar technique. The bar may hide but if you move your finger left or right even when its already gone you should see the brightness change.
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doesn't work for me either

mikeschevelle said:
Im not getting it to rotate to the right,
Running the loaded Syndicate ROM
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There is no Syndicate rom for DK28.

Thanks for the Post! Found some things I wasn't aware of.
I'm on this Stock Froyo Rom(DK17) and everything I've tried is working great. Notification Bar swipe for brightness works as well as Media Hub.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209

Although many great reports.. and some not so..
This is obviously NOT the final release. lets remember that..
It is so close now and will be great. (or better at least)
I myself tested on 3 diff phones, found recurring and non- recurring defects which point to the fact that this particular release in its entirety wont be pushed OTA to the masses.. it cant. wont handle the endless differences out in the wild..
And to be expected.. Exactly the reason why upgrades take time.

troubleshooting a slow G1

I rooted my phone a few months back and it's slow switching between a few screens, mostly from calling or web browsing back to home. Painfully slow, sometimes up to a minute. It's always been like this and I just want to know if there's steps I can take to speed it up or if it's just a memory problem. I used Cyanogen 6.1 to upgrade to android 2.2.1
Baseband62.505.20.17u_2.22.19.26I
Kernel 2.6.35-9cyanogenmod [email protected]#2
Build number - FRG83

G1's are just slow!
Try keeping it lite. Uninstalling apps, keeping the essential ones, app2sd?
Don't have loads of widgets on your homescreen.
Task manager, i recommend ATK.
Hope this helps.

chitin said:
I rooted my phone a few months back and it's slow switching between a few screens, mostly from calling or web browsing back to home. Painfully slow, sometimes up to a minute. It's always been like this and I just want to know if there's steps I can take to speed it up or if it's just a memory problem. I used Cyanogen 6.1 to upgrade to android 2.2.1
Baseband62.505.20.17u_2.22.19.26I
Kernel 2.6.35-9cyanogenmod [email protected]#2
Build number - FRG83
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If you are up to it, flash different ROM. There are ROM out there that is lightweight and fast. My personal favorites is SuperAosp. Currently they just released SuperAosp 6.0 that is fast and also best on bettery life.

flyboyovyick said:
G1's are just slow!
Try keeping it lite. Uninstalling apps, keeping the essential ones, app2sd?
Don't have loads of widgets on your homescreen.
Task manager, i recommend ATK.
Hope this helps.
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Well, it's slow compared to what's out there, but it isn't "one minute to switch apps" slow for me... without a task manager or auto-killer. Every time I wipe I install nine apps from Market, and ten from SD card. They may sit back and be inactive if I've opened them, but they don't just all run at once and slow down to "one minute each switch"...
I'd agree with the widgets on homescreen though. I tend to avoid them out of preference, but they 'can' eat memory faster than we can down a beer. I don't have anything locked in memory except Messaging. Depending on what I'm switching from, it doesn't usually take that long to switch. If it's something like Skyfire -then no matter what I'm doing, the G1 just dies and Skyfire force closes pretty quickly. It just cannot handle such a memory hog. If I play SNesoid, I never see a force close and it takes seconds to switch. I don't fully understand it, but consider how resource heavy your apps are.

Seems to me you have swap enabled and now it's swapping ...
Try to run without swap / compcache and see if this helps.
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AndDiSa said:
Seems to me you have swap enabled and now it's swapping ...
Try to run without swap / compcache and see if this helps.
Sent from my Gingerbread on Dream using XDA App
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Reducing the widgets helped a lot. It's very usable now until I need to upgrade to 4G. Thanks for the recommendation. What is swap enabled?

Might I recommend trying a different ROM? On my Samsung Vibrant, I had stock TouchWiz and it went slow as hell, I tried another custom ROM and it works great. Much much MUCH faster, trust me get a different ROM, ask around for the best most light weight one, Super AOSP w what someone recommended here? Try that.
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Def check froyobylazlo 5.2 you'll need the new radio/spl hack by ezterry but its soo worth it. Auto memory manager helps out greatly too cuz its based off androids internal tasker instead of just another program made from someone else. With that app your g1 will fly even on default settings, on extreme....lol thank me later
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My G1 got slower recently, but not one minute slower. I've been really good about not installing anything except I configured titanium backup to run automatically, but the home screen has been crashing a lot too for some reason.
All I did was create three shortcuts for calling and texting someone. Those aren't the same as widgets are they?