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EVO in Australia

I got a HD2, replacing a Hero last month and am VERY excited about the Evo.
I can't seem to find a mention of Australia anywhere, I saw that the UK was apparently missing out as they don't have a 4G network but Vivid Wireless has just been launched in Perth here in Australia running a 4G Network and is currently on its way to coming online in other major cities.
So what do you think?
Will the Evo be coming to Australia?
I will end up importing one if it doesn't but I'd rather not have the Sprint branding (I'm that much of a purist)

if u import it how are u gonna use it? coz i thought it doesnt use sim card (correct me if im wrong)
But i really do hope this phone comes to australia

Not likely.
The EVO runs on the 4g network at Sprint. Perth is the only city that has a 4g network AFAIK (vividwireless.com.au), but its not linked to a cellular network in any way so a phone on this service would be unable to make phonecalls...
It does still have EVDO but that's slow and makes the phone pointless to release among Australia's market.

I dont know about the EVO using SIM cards but I was under the impression that it can function on 3G as well as 4G

The Evo, as a CDMA device released for Sprint, will not use a SIM card. But yes, the device will be able to function on both 4G and 3G. It will search for a WiMAX (4G) connection, and if it cannot connect, it will then search for a EVDO (3G) connection.

I have a feeling they will have a SIM card for the phone. Otherwise it wouldn't make for a great world phone Verizon has SIM slots in some of their phones in order to be a world phone on GSM networks.
I think the same will apply here. Knowing HTC they will follow up with a phone that will be equivalent in a next HD3/HD4 release for 850/900 networks.
They are truly moving the whole phone market at the moment. They are the phone company to beat in regards to style and innovation.
I do like the Samsung Galaxy S as well. But I have become attached to the Sense UI and that is one of the main reasons I do not want to get the Nexus One for AT&T. I will pay a little more to get the one from Telstra is AT&T doesn't release any news of a better android phone by April 27th.
I am due for an upgrade or I will move to Sprint for the EV0 4G which I think I will get anyways.
I have the Tmobile HD2 and the lock ups pisses me off even with several of the other ROM's I have flashed.
Oh well can't have everything. I might return the phone. I have a few more days.

this phone will not work in Australia. it is not a world phone and was developed for Sprint to steal business from other US carriers. there is no SIM card and if the 4g in Perth is LTE instead of WiMax, data won't work there either. EVDO isn't compatible in any way with GSM. Most likely, this phone won't be able to be flashed to work on another CDMA company here in the USA. Sorry, I know GSM is a world standard, but Sprint here provides the best service/price without a doubt and average speeds are better than GSM here because of how the GSM companies spread out their towers compared to the EVDO companies. this is an amazing break for us on Sprint since our phones generally SUCK. Even the Pre which debued on Sprint turned out to be a flop because Sprint had no standards for software or hardware and the first phones released fell apart by just looking at them the wrong way. at least this time, the phone is based off another phone (hd2) but better and running Android.
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It's a shame that it uses the CDMA network instead of GSM. This is the only credible challenge to iPhone so far. I'm dying to see it coming to Australia. My only concern is still the accuracy of the touch screen. Hope that HTC has sorted this out by now.

Yeah it's a real shame this isn't a world phone. It packs a royal punch.
The Desire isn't too bad a competitor to the iPhone though. Why not consider that?

Carrier/SIM-Locked?

Hi!
I was just wondering if the Droid Incredible is Verizon Wireless only? My problem is that I'm from Norway and really interested in this phone, but it isn't available here. So if I import it, will it be SIM-locked?
Or can I wait until a custom ROM is made that is unlocked?
Kind regards!

Its CDMA do you have any CDMA Operator in Norway

Like said above the Droid Incredible is CDMA not GSM. So pertaining to your question, yes it is (in a way) SIM locked as you can't use it on any other carrier.
From what I understand though the HTC Desire may be what you are looking for. From what I hear it is European/GSM version of the Incredible.
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If you have a CDMA carrier than yes there is a way to use it. otherwise your bet bet is to use the desire.

Thanks for the replies. I don't think we have a CDMA carrier here in Norway. And I've been looking into the Desire, but I think the design on Incredible is a bit better. But I'll manage with the Desire
Again, thanks a lot!

There actually is a CDMA/1xEV-DO Rel. 0/1xEV-DO Rev. A provider in Norway, although when I tried to look up their CDMA coverage area online I received a 404 error (it probably doesn't help that I can't read Norwegian to save my life =p). Nordisk Mobiltelefon Norway provides the network via ice. However, I would never recommend a CDMA phone to someone who spends the majority of their time outside of the US or India (I'm not saying it wouldn't work, but if you live in Europe I highly suggest going with a quad-band GSM phone) and even then, you should buy the phone locally to know that you will be with a provider that works with your phone's frequencies.
The exciting thing is LTE looks to be the first real WORLDWIDE band. My guess is that in 5 - 10 years you will be able to travel the world and get fast speeds with excellent quality calls with one phone. That is unless corporate greed gets in the way (Sprint launched the EVO not using LTE but WiMAX because even though though Clearwire has few WiMAX deployed points, there are even less LTE). Regardless of WiMAX being out of the gate first, I have a feeling LTE will win in the end (if not, then we will be left with a CDMA vs. GSM issue again).

ANy word on a US 3g version?

I am looking to buy this phone. Is there any news on an 3G 850/1900 version coming out (to use on ATT)

As far as I know, it won't ever be available in the US. I can't imagine it would sell too well if it did, either, as it's basically the EU equivalent of the EVO 4G, give or take a few features

No US release, but you can buy it, and import it, to the US. I did just that. You get all the function of the phone, but instead of 3G you only get 2G (the bands work on T-Mobile and AT&T). Not a problem for me since 99% of the time I'm in a Wi-Fi zone. Even using 2G only I get speeds around 500 KBPS. Very usable. The hardware and software blow the Evo out of the water. It's not even a comparison, and besides the Evo is Sprint only. I'm on T-Mobile, and they have no phone that is Android with a 4.3 screen, and the specs of the DHD.

If only carriers such as TELUS or some other carrier from Australia will work for the ATT 3g. Maybe bell Canada will sick it up. I hope.
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If im not mistaken your (US) Desire HD will be called Incredible HD

ATT's 2G speeds are incredibly slow... the most i get is 150kbps, which takes me almost 20 mins to download (for example) angry birds from the android market. I've had the hd2 without 3g access for a while now, and am tired of not being able to look something up really fast when I need it. Anyone know of any equivalent to the desire HD (except for the galaxy) that may be coming out soon, that can be used on ATT's 3G network?

LeviathanPT said:
If im not mistaken your (US) Desire HD will be called Incredible HD
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Nope, the incredible HD is the similar to the EVO as it will be CDMA and not GSM

bobbyphoenix said:
No US release, but you can buy it, and import it, to the US. I did just that. You get all the function of the phone, but instead of 3G you only get 2G (the bands work on T-Mobile and AT&T). Not a problem for me since 99% of the time I'm in a Wi-Fi zone. Even using 2G only I get speeds around 500 KBPS. Very usable. The hardware and software blow the Evo out of the water. It's not even a comparison, and besides the Evo is Sprint only. I'm on T-Mobile, and they have no phone that is Android with a 4.3 screen, and the specs of the DHD.
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Thats why im getting pissed off. WTF is that all about HTC!!!! I want fast connection and I love DHD. Evo came out, Droid X came out and i couldnt get any because CDMA. Now DHD is out but no 3g in NA !!!!! now Incredible Hd will be out and CDMA also
Where did you buy ur DHD from and at what price. I am planning to do the same to use it in CANADA hopefully

"shipping in North America later this year" according to HTC reps at the London announcement (Giz)

I hope they don't mean cdma version or a version for Tmo.. That would really piss me off. Tmo seems to get all the good gsm android phones now adays

Desire HD data plan on AT&T?

Hi folks,
I'm currently looking around for smartphones with 850/1900Mhz 3G that are not sold by AT&T, so that I can use them with the cheap $10 unlimited data plan on AT&T like I currently do with the Bell Galaxy S and Telus Milestone that you'll see in my signature.
I'm aware that AT&T already has the Inspire 4G, but I don't want that, because it requires the expensive, capped data plan instead of the cheap unlimited plan.
I know that this method works on the Telus Desire A8182. Can anyone tell me if this works on the Telus Desire HD A9192, or does AT&T have the full list of IMEI numbers and requires the expensive plan for even the Bell model? (this happened with the Xperia X10, folks using the Rogers model with cheap data on AT&T suddenly got bumped to the expensive plans as soon as AT&T carried the X10 themselves).
Thanks in advance I'd appreciate info from folks using both the A9192 or the A9191 on AT&T.

NOBODY using this phone on AT&T??

HTC desire hd data plan on AT&T
im using the desire hd unbranded on AT&T the unlimited 2g data plan it works well. you just need to have the APN setup for AT&T on your desire HD.

ch12islee said:
im using the desire hd unbranded on AT&T the unlimited 2g data plan it works well. you just need to have the APN setup for AT&T on your desire HD.
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Thanks for that info. Can you tell me how your device shows up (what picture/name) in your online AT&T account?
I'm very curious if this applies to the A9192 as well (I presume you have A9191 right?)

I'm using the Telus version. With the correct APN, everything works perfectly.

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I'm using the Telus version. With the correct APN, everything works perfectly.
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Can I confirm that you are using this on AT&T with the cheap non-smartphone data plan and they haven't forced you to get one of the more pricey capped plans?

Actually, no. I'm using it with the unlimited (grandfathered) plan

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Actually, no. I'm using it with the unlimited (grandfathered) plan
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Well how does it show up in AT&T's database? Does it show up as a smartphone, or could you actually use it with the dumbphone plan?

Well I am also curious if it has any impact on data plan and if we can use the A9191 Roms without bricking our A9192 phones?
I am so ready to move on from my craptivate. I have such a bitter taste about them that I won't even consider the Nexus S that is going to work on 3G in March.
Also the Desire HD brother that ATT just released is full of their usual bloatware and of course no source code to start making own roms.

ch12islee said:
im using the desire hd unbranded on AT&T the unlimited 2g data plan it works well. you just need to have the APN setup for AT&T on your desire HD.
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Same here, all I get is 2G on the Unlimited Data plan. Wished I could be using the HSPDA line instead. But you get what you paid for. MY APN basically got set up by itself, flashed and using CM7. I guess ATT Signal for HSPDA is not on this one.

You probably have the wrong one. The one that launched on Telus (canada) has the right bands for AT&T, the EU one doesn't.
Funk, is your plan the unlimited smartphone one or the unlimited dumbphone one?

Yes I have A9191 and its just a blank picture on my account. When I called to activate I just said my phone is not US 3g capable.
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ch12islee said:
Yes I have A9191 and its just a blank picture on my account. When I called to activate I just said my phone is not US 3g capable.
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Good to know...I'm really hoping it's the same deal with the A9192, my brother is probably gonna buy that phone

what was the outcome of this? did att put your brother on the capped data plan?

I have a Rogers branded HTC Magic 32A and I'm using the $15/mo unlimited data plan that I got several years ago to support my WM HP phone. I get 3g data HSDPA service. I'm looking to upgrade to HTC Inspire 4G/Desire HD and don't know what my options are. Anybody have any input?

Was anyone able to confirm if the A9192 uses the $10 data plan?

I'm pretty sure that the Desire HD will not be registered on ATT's smartphone and that you will be able to use it with the unlimited dumbphone plan. Just make sure that when you buy it, the HSDPA or 3G bands are 850/1900 and not any other bands.
The only reason why I'm not getting this phone is because of the 1230mAh battery life. I feel that this is way too short of a battery life and that it wouldn't be worth it coming from a 1450mAh battery on a Vibrant.
Edit: If you're seriously thinking about getting the HTC to work on ATT, I think you're better off getting the HTC Sensation 4G (Bell version) because it's more well rounded than the Desire HD. However, finding this exact phone might become a challenge because the HTC Sensation 4G is in US only for T-Mobile. You will need to find the Bell version for it to be up and working with ATT.

[Q] unable to get 3G internet speed on mobile network

Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies

Did you do factory restore settings.. or just factory reset the whole phone..ooh are you on Android 2.1 or 2.3. Also go to network mode and see if its not on GSM only.
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jamgirl said:
Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
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the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
this doesn't have anything to do with factory resetting the phone or whatever. it is simply hardware.
hope this sheds some light for you.

jamgirl said:
Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
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The reason it worked in the iPhone is that T-Mobile and att use different 3g bands and the hardware in those phones is only setup to work on those bands. Before you buy a phone, unlocked you should find out what bands your local networks use.

saranhai said:
the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
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Just some semantics: "most of the world" uses 2100 band, which makes MT4G compatible with most existing networks in Europe and around the world. Americas (both North and South), on the other hand, happen to use mostly 850 and 1900 bands, uncommon in the rest of the world, which are indeed incompatible with MT4G.

Am still confused.. even some people and parts of the united states people still fall on or can't get pass edge..anyway...
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As long as you don't have a compatible-band cellular tower of your carrier in vicinity, you won't get 3G. Not all cellular towers support 3G.
And if your carrier's band(s) aren't compatible, then you never get 3G.

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Am still confused.. even some people and parts of the united states people still fall on or can't get pass edge..anyway...
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That's because they can't get good signal where they live.
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saranhai said:
the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
this doesn't have anything to do with factory resetting the phone or whatever. it is simply hardware.
hope this sheds some light for you.
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thanks so so much to everyone who took time out to answer my question, i am no more happier than when i asked my question unfortunately but i am so much wiser and now with more knowledge, lol , i know now what i need to do, get rid of the phone and get myself a more compatible phone...unless there is a way to manipulate or change the network factory/hardware settings in the phone???...any ideas?

Nope. Some phones are restricted to certain bands by software (radio build), but unfortunately this restriction seems to be in HW.

jamgirl said:
thanks so so much to everyone who took time out to answer my question, i am no more happier than when i asked my question unfortunately but i am so much wiser and now with more knowledge, lol , i know now what i need to do, get rid of the phone and get myself a more compatible phone...unless there is a way to manipulate or change the network factory/hardware settings in the phone???...any ideas?
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With some God like skills you may be able to remove the HW antenna from a T-Mobile phone and replace the one in this phone. While I would not suggest it. I didn't want to tell you there was NO way to do it.

I hope someone in this thread can answer the same kinda question for me, but in a different way. Right now I'm in the United States on Simple Mobile's 40$ 3G Plan, but I noticed on my MyTouch 4G (Running the latest RoyalGinger) that I am connected at 4G speeds, however shouldn't my indicator for Data/internet connector on the phone read off as 3G instead of 4G? When i ran a bandwidth test on my phone from DSL Reports Mobile Speed Test, I got the following from a 100k file.
124 kbit/sec
0.287s latency
6.72s d/l time
Is that how fast 3G usually is? or should I be going faster? Thanks to anyone who can help.