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8525 Flex/Loose slider

Hi,
I know I'm a n00b, and I just got my 8525 a couple weeks ago. I've enjoyed getting Custel's ROM on my phone and finally finding some decent cases (hard rubber and krussel from extremepda.com) and screen protectors (pocketpctechs.com)
I do have a question though, how easy should the keyboard slide out? I noticed that mine comes out fairly easily with little effort. It doesn't come out with gravity alone, but little effort is required on my part at all. Is this normal, or should I try and exchange it at the cingular store before my 30 days expires?
If this is normal that cool, I just want to make sure nothing is wrong.
Thanks everyone!

Edvard_Greig said:
Hi,
I know I'm a n00b, and I just got my 8525 a couple weeks ago. I've enjoyed getting Custel's ROM on my phone and finally finding some decent cases (hard rubber and krussel from extremepda.com) and screen protectors (pocketpctechs.com)
I do have a question though, how easy should the keyboard slide out? I noticed that mine comes out fairly easily with little effort. It doesn't come out with gravity alone, but little effort is required on my part at all. Is this normal, or should I try and exchange it at the cingular store before my 30 days expires?
If this is normal that cool, I just want to make sure nothing is wrong.
Thanks everyone!
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It is a reasonably common problem. I would certainly go for an exchange if possible. There is a fix available but it involves dismantling and will void your warranty.
See my site in signature link for details, but go for the exchange. It should click into position fairly firmly at both top and bottom.
Mike

Hi Mike,
Thanks for the quick reply! I guess my accompanying question is if this is a defect with certain units, or if it is just something that happens (ie mechanism just gets loose over time) if it just starts to happen and needs to be tweaked I'm ok with that, but if it is a defective unit and others don't have the issue at all then I'll take it back.
Thanks again!

Edvard_Greig said:
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the quick reply! I guess my accompanying question is if this is a defect with certain units, or if it is just something that happens (ie mechanism just gets loose over time) if it just starts to happen and needs to be tweaked I'm ok with that, but if it is a defective unit and others don't have the issue at all then I'll take it back.
Thanks again!
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Well if you see my site in my signature you'll see that it is a problem related to the indents at each end of the runners/sliders being too shallowly embossed in the metal to provide a large enough bump for the sliding part to click over. In theory they might become loose over time, but my feeling is that folks with problems have ones that have always been pretty loose. Having increased the indents mine have retained a very firm click ever since, so I don't think it's a problem of soft/poor quality metal. Mine were so bad that just holding the phone to take a call would open the keyboard and it always opened getting it out of the holster. Otherwise my TyTn was perfect so I chose to void the warranty and fix the problem myself.
Edit some are better than others from the start (to answer your question!!)
Mike

Thanks Mike! I ended up trying to take it back to Cingular, and tried some of the other ones and they were actually worse than mine. I'm probably just a little picky. If it gets real bad I'll definitely go through your guide!

broken hemes :(

can any1 help me out here i just bought an 8525 for 80 off a co-worker he didnt want it because it keeps turning off on him i think its a few loose connections...theres a bit of play in with the battery but anyhow changed batteries same thing so any one know what part i should be replacing and also where i can get parts for this phone. i have tried looking on the site that i use for my other phones but all i find are screens and black housings so if you guys can help me out i'd love it

anyone im looking at it right now and all seems well and i tested the battery on a different fone and everything is green just cant figure it out. also just found out that my jogwheel is broken

That could explain why the co-worker sold it to you for 80 bucks.. .. you might be able to find parts on Ebay .. see if anyone is selling one with a busted screen or something..

thats exactly ehy i got for 80 i knew what it was just hoping for an easy fix i do repairs tho so no biggie just gotta find the parts thanks ill start looking once my ass friend gets off myspace!!!

It can't be a "loose connection" unless the solder from the battery connectors came loose because he battery connectors are connected right to the board.

thats one thing i noticed also the prong look like they have been squished down almost flat instaed of < they are more - but not that bad and there is quite a bit of playu from the battery compared to my good 8525 oh well maybe i can come up on a third and swap out parts. thanks for the help guys any other suggestion i have already kinda fixed the prongs. and now the phone wont even turn on this suck but i know this can be fixed

hey does any1 have a broken hermes they wouldent mind getting rid of i need parts or if ppl wanna be nice to me and my thin wallet and donate their old broken hermes to me i would really appreciate it

Gyngabread Man said:
hey does any1 have a broken hermes they wouldent mind getting rid of i need parts or if ppl wanna be nice to me and my thin wallet and donate their old broken hermes to me i would really appreciate it
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I dealt with a similar case a while back. Going off randomly. In his case it turned out it was the battery connections. They had lost some of their spring tension and he was unwilling to try bending them out a little for fear of causing more damage. In the end we decided that he would try placing a strip of card between the battery and the casing on the side opposite to the battery connections. ie. to press the battery more firmly against the connectors. How thick it would need to be would depend on how squashed the connectors are.
It worked for him and he decided just to leave it in place.
Mike

@Gyngabread Man
If you cant fix it let me know. I need the vibrate motor. And no im not kidding

Digitizer Non Responsive

Hey guys.
Owned the phone for a few months now and have started to notice a really odd problem. For a while the screen was being fairly unresponsive to touches and I couldn't figure out why. Taking the screen protector off fixed it temporarily but now the issue is back.
I finally realised that the issue was a black smudge that would appear whenever I pushed too hard on the screen. I'm assuming this registers as a touch on the screen and prevents it from working. Rubbing the stylus over the area usually makes it dissipate and the screen becomes responsive again, but it would come back not long later after general use.
Also there's some fairly odd rainbowing underneath the digitizer that moves around when you press on the screen. It circles around the smudges when they appear.
I know that all sounds fairly vague, but any help on the issue would be great. Is a new digitizer in order or could it be fixed by just dissassembling it? I've tried using a suction cap to make the problem go away, the rainbowing disappears but slowly comes back again. Also I haven't dropped the phone, left it near anything etc, besides the digitizer problem the phone works fine.
Thanks in advance!
(On a side note, I bought the phone off eBay and had to use a serial number locater to determine the region of the phone. Found out it was destined for India when I'm in Australia. Fairly odd, but what are the warranty implications? Is it still covered?)

Same problem here!
I've sent it to HTC for repair, since my Diamond2 has 1 year warranty and I only bought it in May/09. HTC said that screen issues are excluded of the warranty and that I have to pay about €70 for the screen repair, because, they say, the problem is due to misuse - wich I don't think is true.

Daisjun said:
Hey guys.
Owned the phone for a few months now and have started to notice a really odd problem. For a while the screen was being fairly unresponsive to touches and I couldn't figure out why. Taking the screen protector off fixed it temporarily but now the issue is back.
I finally realised that the issue was a black smudge that would appear whenever I pushed too hard on the screen. I'm assuming this registers as a touch on the screen and prevents it from working. Rubbing the stylus over the area usually makes it dissipate and the screen becomes responsive again, but it would come back not long later after general use.
Also there's some fairly odd rainbowing underneath the digitizer that moves around when you press on the screen. It circles around the smudges when they appear.
I know that all sounds fairly vague, but any help on the issue would be great. Is a new digitizer in order or could it be fixed by just dissassembling it? I've tried using a suction cap to make the problem go away, the rainbowing disappears but slowly comes back again. Also I haven't dropped the phone, left it near anything etc, besides the digitizer problem the phone works fine.
Thanks in advance!
(On a side note, I bought the phone off eBay and had to use a serial number locater to determine the region of the phone. Found out it was destined for India when I'm in Australia. Fairly odd, but what are the warranty implications? Is it still covered?)
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You have collapsed your layers between lcd and digitizer.
Some folks here use duct tape to repeatedly pull the layers apart and it fixes their issue for a while.

Thought it'd be something along those lines. I'll give the duct tape trick a try, can you point me to some other threads? I tried searching but was probably using the wrong terms.
Also vasco that's complete bollocks. I've kept my phone in its case the whole time I've had it, never put any pressure on it or had it in a rough environment. I'd throw a few customer complaints their way, especially if other people have had the same issue. Nice to know I'm not alone at least.

Daisjun said:
Thought it'd be something along those lines. I'll give the duct tape trick a try, can you point me to some other threads? I tried searching but was probably using the wrong terms.
Also vasco that's complete bollocks. I've kept my phone in its case the whole time I've had it, never put any pressure on it or had it in a rough environment. I'd throw a few customer complaints their way, especially if other people have had the same issue. Nice to know I'm not alone at least.
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search for "newton rings"

Daisjun said:
Thought it'd be something along those lines. I'll give the duct tape trick a try, can you point me to some other threads? I tried searching but was probably using the wrong terms.
Also vasco that's complete bollocks. I've kept my phone in its case the whole time I've had it, never put any pressure on it or had it in a rough environment. I'd throw a few customer complaints their way, especially if other people have had the same issue. Nice to know I'm not alone at least.
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The issue is being discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers...522813
I've already filed a complaint to the comm's regulation office. I'me presently waiting for their response.

had the same issue.. I just replaced the digitizer, it's a bit tricky but certainly possible.. yours is not that old so it should be repaired under warranty if you can have that done (have no clue about your situation there..)
digitizers are cheap on ebay
disassembly:
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-diamond2/

Daisjun said:
Thought it'd be something along those lines. I'll give the duct tape trick a try, can you point me to some other threads? I tried searching but was probably using the wrong terms.
Also vasco that's complete bollocks. I've kept my phone in its case the whole time I've had it, never put any pressure on it or had it in a rough environment. I'd throw a few customer complaints their way, especially if other people have had the same issue. Nice to know I'm not alone at least.
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Here is my thread about this.
I am in the same boat as you - phone was destined for somewhere in Asia, and I am in Australia. I contacted HTC, and they also told me that the problem could be caused by misuse, even though I KNOW it wasn't, as my phone is always in it's case unless being used, never dropped etc. It sucks, but I think I will just replace the digitizer myself.

Anyone else's rear bottom plastic ill fitting?

This is literally the only thing I don't like about the phone. On my ~3 day old ATT Nexus One, the right side (When looking at the screen), on the side, the plastic is just loose enough that your fingernail can catch it. It seems insanely minor, but it's a huge annoyance because that's where your fingers rest, so it's constant sharp plastic edge.
Is there any way to remove and refit it, or maybe order a replacement cover? It's the plastic part with "HTC" on it. I really don't want to fight with HTC over a return for such a niggling issue

Mine was, sent it to HTC and they sorted it. Looking at the tear down pics, it wouldn't be hard to DIY it.

Rusty! said:
Mine was, sent it to HTC and they sorted it. Looking at the tear down pics, it wouldn't be hard to DIY it.
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Exactly. I'm torn as to rather I want to screw with it myself or go through the hassle of sending it in. Did they just send you a new phone and a box to return your old one, or did you have to actually send it in for repair?

I sent it to them (well, they collected it), had it for a few days and returned it. Not a replacement, which I was happy with as my unit appears to be a goodun.

Rusty! said:
I sent it to them (well, they collected it), had it for a few days and returned it. Not a replacement, which I was happy with as my unit appears to be a goodun.
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Yeah, but I sold my iPhone already and can't really be phoneless for a few days

You might be able to get an advance replacement if you ask. Or Google for the tear down, it pops off.

Rusty! said:
You might be able to get an advance replacement if you ask. Or Google for the tear down, it pops off.
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Yeah, I saw the teardown vid, seems to just pull off with enough force, I'm just unsure if I can make it any better. I'll wait and see if anyone has DIY'ed it

Same problem here, I thought I was the only one. =) I agree that it's really minor, but if it's something that could be fixed that would be nice.

Mine sticks out on the right side, too. NBD for me, but that's odd.

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one too. In the teardown vid on youtube they just pull it off with a plastic iphone tool. I'm kinda tempted to try, and see if I can tell what's making it do that.

i have this issue too. to me, it's a minor cosmetic issue. and how will you know that the one they send you doesn't also have that issue?

My beef is the glass on the screen sits just below the sides of the metal.. leaving a sharp ledge on both sides of the screen where it should be flush

vexingv said:
i have this issue too. to me, it's a minor cosmetic issue. and how will you know that the one they send you doesn't also have that issue?
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Exactly, hence my hesitation to try to warranty it.

I had a chance to look at several at&t N1s and I noticed this too. The bottom part on about half of them had a larger gap than there should have been. Hopefully it's easy to DIY fix.

How can AT&T N1s be different from T-Mobile one's exactly? There all being made by HTC, just of course with different radios.. why would there be cosmetic differences..? I didn't know carriers had an input in how [HTC] made their phones.. if you know what I mean.

Eclair~ said:
How can AT&T N1s be different from T-Mobile one's exactly? There all being made by HTC, just of course with different radios.. why would there be cosmetic differences..? I didn't know carriers had an input in how [HTC] made their phones.. if you know what I mean.
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It's possible that the t-mobile ones had the same problem. Luckily my phone hasn't had any problems really. But it's also possible for the manufacturer to make small adjustments on their lines to increase efficiency, that's why different batches/serial numbers come out screwy sometimes.

[Q] Screen flicker - suspected hardware problem

Greetings,
I tried to search for this problem on this forum but I couldn't find anything specific to this device.
The tablet works fine in all aspects, except the screen flickers when the aluminum back is stressed, i.e. when its being held. The tablet screen will flicker in brightness as the back is pressed.
Usually the most reliable way to reproduce the problem is to flex the tablet, as if you were trying to split a piece of plastic into two by gradually flexing it until it breaks.
Therefore, I have concluded it is a hardware problem, but I don't know exactly what.
I apologize if I'm difficult to understand, and if you need any clarification, let me know.
Thank you everyone for your time.
-Kevin

ktong747 said:
Greetings,
I tried to search for this problem on this forum but I couldn't find anything specific to this device.
The tablet works fine in all aspects, except the screen flickers when the aluminum back is stressed, i.e. when its being held. The tablet screen will flicker in brightness as the back is pressed.
Usually the most reliable way to reproduce the problem is to flex the tablet, as if you were trying to split a piece of plastic into two by gradually flexing it until it breaks.
Therefore, I have concluded it is a hardware problem, but I don't know exactly what.
I apologize if I'm difficult to understand, and if you need any clarification, let me know.
Thank you everyone for your time.
-Kevin
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Hey Kevin,
Yeah, seems like a hardware issue. But I advise not to "flex" the back too much
Probably could be 2 things.
1. Loose connector for the digitizer
2. Bad digitizer
3. Something grounding out against the case.
So my guess would be to spit the case apart. You can find videos on Google Search showing the procedure at You Tube. Then a good inspection of components, paying attention to connectors and the boards (for cracking).
I saw the other day that there are plenty of parts available for the 500, like digitizers, display glass and several other items. Check E-bay.
MD

Moscow Desire said:
Hey Kevin,
Yeah, seems like a hardware issue. But I advise not to "flex" the back too much
Probably could be 2 things.
1. Loose connector for the digitizer
2. Bad digitizer
3. Something grounding out against the case.
So my guess would be to spit the case apart. You can find videos on Google Search showing the procedure at You Tube. Then a good inspection of components, paying attention to connectors and the boards (for cracking).
I saw the other day that there are plenty of parts available for the 500, like digitizers, display glass and several other items. Check E-bay.
MD
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Thanks for your advice Moscow Desire. I've taken the back off before but noticed nothing unusual. Should I just take every component that can be separated out and inspect it? Sounds like a recipe for disaster for an inexperienced person like me.

ktong747 said:
Thanks for your advice Moscow Desire. I've taken the back off before but noticed nothing unusual. Should I just take every component that can be separated out and inspect it? Sounds like a recipe for disaster for an inexperienced person like me.
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Hi Moscow Desire,
I have taken my tablet apart with the instruction from the videos but I didn't see anything that is loosen so far. Do you think I will need to unscrew everything until I take out the screen to know what's wrong? My screen keeps flickering with white lines at the edge of the screen and it's really annoying. :crying:
Thanks!