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Hi guys, reading up on the Eris a little (I have a Moto Droid as my main phone). Got it rooted with 2.1 and flashed over Evil Eris and the LWP/Launcher2 updates and it seems pretty good so far! My question is when is overclocking going to be coming to this phone? Had my Droid clocked at 1.25GHz and it was rockin'! I didn't see a thread on it here (yes, I did search!) so I thought I would make one.
Thanks!
We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.
Apparently No one has modified the system kernals on anything so far, so over clocking isn't available yet... I'm sure a dev is working on it though...
GrdLock said:
We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.
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you know it.
Of course the .27 kernel source is available, we've tried that kernel with 2.1 and it doesn't work right, and would take a lot of work to get working right, then more work to overclock. Not worth it really. We need the newer .29 source.
In the weeks ahead I will backport all the drivers from .29 to .27 needed to make it all but camera fully functional as I did with the heroc and have began doing for the gsm hero. Overclockin to 700mhz is possible for the turbo msm7k devices. I have a patch to enable it but there is some sort of conflict in the kernel that sops it from booting. Ramconsole shows it setting the desired clocks but then that's just the end of it. No more messages after that. The source is proven to work on all msm7k CPUs and it just seems to have an issue with something HTC added to our source. I haven't had much time to play with it but I've started a thread on it in the cdma hero forum. U can check there for more details on it. The patch I posted will apply clean to the Eris kernel source and all instructions are there for how to set it up. Anyone who wants to try and see what's causing it not to boot is welcome to. All I ask OS u post it findings in that thread as I would like to get it working and I always share my soutce, findings, and work. I just ask for others to do the same.
source code is easier than you might think
ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it
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ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it
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But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?
trav473 said:
But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?
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Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.
CPCookieMan said:
Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.
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Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.
sms440 said:
Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.
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i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week
jamezelle said:
i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week
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I sure hope so.
ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.
Dizzy_Dez said:
ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.
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that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?
ch4sethe5un said:
that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?
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yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.
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yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.
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Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.
So SetCPU doesn't work properly on the Eris, right? I had it running for a while but it always said min = 480, max = 528, no matter what I set it to. Also, the battery was draining FAST! It would die in about 10 hours. I turned it off today and it was at 80% battery left after 10 hours and I didn't notice any difference in performance.
piercedtiger said:
Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.
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528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling
toastcfh said:
528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling
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thanks. That would speed things up a little.
Anyone know what effect this will have to games, and live wallpapers?
Just curious, as that is why I am not putting the latest FreshToast v1 on my phone - I use the camera every day...
So, are there any overclocked ROMs with the camera?? That would be great!
Try looking HERE.
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Try looking HERE.
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LOL!! Love it
mrcharlesiv said:
Try looking HERE.
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lmao or this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668905
OK, so I am supposed to read 10,000 pages of random comments about the custom ROMs instead of asking?
I have searched by the way, and found no definitive answer. If it's obvious and you know the answer, why not post "no" or "yes" instead of the wise-ass reply?
And if the answer is not obvious - well, that's why I posed the question.
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Try looking HERE.
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WOW! That must be new.... there is a search on here?
putting it simply, if there was an overclocked rom with working camera, everyone would copy that and have the same thing. then it would be easy to find one. did you see any roms on the front page with working camera and overclock?
ill hijack this thread...id like to see a stable 2.1 rom with everything working but stripped of sense totally, can it happen?
Only if you run a 1.5 rom.
I released a modified boot.img and wlan.ko that you can patch gumbo 1.5c rom with.
you can find it here http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-hero-roms-hacks/10138-gumbo-1-5c-overclock.html
I made it for my own personal use and just put it out there for anyone who might want it. All I did was apply the patch to the boot.img from gumbo 1.5c tweaker edition then flashed it to my phone. I was already running gumbo 1.5c tweaker edition so it has only been tested to work flashed over that.
It most likely would flash just fine over any 1.5 rom, but it will add gumbos custom low memory killer and a script that modifies the cpu scaling. If you use it you can't use setcpu. The rom already does what setcpu does.
If you do want it, flash at your own risk, and make sure to backup first.
I could release an overclocked 1.5 kernel that does not use gumbo, or is based off another rom if there is any demand for it, but I think with 2.1 around the corner, and so many almost fully functional 2.1 roms out there, the only people that would even be interested are those who can't run a 2.1 rom due to audio loss issues. that is not too many.
I heard the iAndroid 4G was found left in a bar incognito... I want one!
::ROFL::
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I heard the iAndroid 4G was found left in a bar incognito... I want one!
::ROFL::
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id buy a "cough" iphone if it were running a fully working port of android.
no, it won't happen till htc releases the .29 kernel source. though you could overclock and have it on 1.5 working, i'm pretty sure.
and for you guys who keep telling him to search, at least give him an answer. i understand how anoying it is to see all these threads... but really. at least still help out.
justinisyoung said:
no, it won't happen till htc releases the .29 kernel source. though you could overclock and have it on 1.5 working, i'm pretty sure.
and for you guys who keep telling him to search, at least give him an answer. i understand how anoying it is to see all these threads... but really. at least still help out.
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im pretty sure pancake 1.5 is already tweaked with gbhil's custom kernel. you can also use autokiller on extreme mode and make that rom fly!
im running it and i love it, best rom ive used so far.
justinisyoung said:
no, it won't happen till htc releases the .29 kernel source. though you could overclock and have it on 1.5 working, i'm pretty sure.
and for you guys who keep telling him to search, at least give him an answer. i understand how anoying it is to see all these threads... but really. at least still help out.
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I compiled the oc patch into a 1.5 boot.img based off of gumbo 1.5c tweaker. Post #9 in this thread!
I am getting similar benchmarks as a OC 2.1 rom w/o JIT.
3.1 MFLOPS on linpack
28-29 fps on neocore not killing any tasks
6535 ms on benchmark Pi.
Stock 1.5 rom was
26 fps with all tasks killed
2.36 MFLOPs linpack
10635 ms benchmark pi
Thanks for the info obelisk, justin and obchaos.
Now, was that so hard? ;-)
For the rest of you, just because the search function does not yield an answer does not mean the answer is not out there, now does it?
I had better not see any of you ever posting a question on here ;-)
In any case, I remember 2.1 did not have the camera working for a while, then someone fixed it, right? So it seems that this is not a crazy question to ask.
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ronnienyc said:
Thanks for the info obelisk, justin and obchaos.
Now, was that so hard? ;-)
For the rest of you, just because the search function does not yield an answer does not mean the answer is not out there, now does it?
I had better not see any of you ever posting a question on here ;-)
In any case, I remember 2.1 did not have the camera working for a while, then someone fixed it, right? So it seems that this is not a crazy question to ask.
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90% of the 2.1 roms have a fully functional camera now.
fixxxer2008 said:
ill hijack this thread...id like to see a stable 2.1 rom with everything working but stripped of sense totally, can it happen?
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Try my ROM
mrinehart93 said:
Try my ROM
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thanks i may give it a go.
fixxxer2008 said:
90% of the 2.1 roms have a fully functional camera now.
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Yes, which is why I was asking about the 2.1 roms with overclocking...I thought maybe one or more of them would have camera working by now.
Thanks.
ronnienyc said:
Yes, which is why I was asking about the 2.1 roms with overclocking...I thought maybe one or more of them would have camera working by now.
Thanks.
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i dunno about overclocked ones. you could use autokiller off the market to free up a ton of ram. i know setcpu does not work on 2.1
I've been using rustom ROM's since the first one came out.
Unfortunately in some ROM-topics people are talking about JIT.
Can please somebody explain what JIT means, what would be the added value of it and what it actually does?
Thanks in advance!
podb
JIT on Wikipedia... go have a look... it won't bite you...
just-in-time compilation (JIT), also known as dynamic translation, is a technique for improving the runtime performance .. basically it will speed up your mobile .. for more information Wiki
Thanks for the understandable explanation!
I tried to find more info on JIT but since I had no clue what it was about, I didn't know the explanation was the one I was looking for ...
So, thanks again!
so how do you install it/enable it? is it built into roms?
archie winnington-ingram said:
so how do you install it/enable it? is it built into roms?
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You install it on top of a ROM, usually provided by the maker or someone else who made a package.
it's a little update.zip that replaces a few files.
So would it be on a "3 Branded" Hero? - if not is it as simple as loading a file?
Geesss nuts'n'bolts I find Win Mo soooo mush easier
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You install it on top of a ROM, usually provided by the maker or someone else who made a package.
it's a little update.zip that replaces a few files.
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well i'm using your rom. so i'll just sit back and be patient for the .zip file.
i think i read somewhere that you got 4.8 linpack using the beta version?
archie winnington-ingram said:
well i'm using your rom. so i'll just sit back and be patient for the .zip file.
i think i read somewhere that you got 4.8 linpack using the beta version?
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I am getting that kind of score on Super2 just now.
I'll get someone else to test it before release though
I'll test it. Pm me. Xxx
how come he's getting 4.5+ and your getting 3.0 (in your signature, or please update it!)??
I'm not using the jit yet...
So, any difference in real life? I didn't notice any speed improvement at all (as commented on VillainROM forum)
i have started using jit and i am now getting a much higher linpack score.
i havent noticed much of a difference in the speed, but it is smoother and more responsive.
however jit does cause some problems, making the phone a little jumpy for example, and a little less stable. worth it though imho.
just curious as to the status on these, havent heard much in a while, not pushing anyone just curious
installed stock froyo on my friends droid and loved it myself, so fast
Yea I am in the same boat. If a FROYO rom based off the source is released in the next few days Ill want to try it if not I'm going to try out KaosFroyo V10.
i have a feeling that as soon as kaos gets froyo perfect that then they will start from there, beings that we don't seem to be getting an official OTA update.
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i have a feeling that as soon as kaos gets froyo perfect that then they will start from there, beings that we don't seem to be getting an official OTA update.
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I believe some devs are working with the source that Google released for 2.2. While kayo's is based of a dump from another phone that is being ported.
`mods said:
I believe some devs are working with the source that Google released for 2.2. While kayo's is based of a dump from another phone that is being ported.
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kaos's started from a dump and once source was released he is building from source.
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kaos's started from a dump and once source was released he is building from source.
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Ok thanks. I didn't know. That would explain how so many features started working.
I think the last is FRF 83 ???? I seen to be working with no problems
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Ok thanks. I didn't know. That would explain how so many features started working.
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currently wifi, blue tooth, gps, jit and mms don't work. possibly camera too, not sure. other than that it is a very smooth build. kaos is on vacation until next Monday i think he said, so won't be any updates until then.
also shouldn't be too much longer til cyanogen 6.0 comes out, cyan froyo.
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I think the last is FRF 83 ???? I seen to be working with no problems
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You have to understand 2.2 wasnt made for our phones. Kaos is working on it.. Patience... trust me we at AndIRC are very anxious for more improvement on this rom.
I have been using Cyanogen Eris Lightning Bolt 2.7 and it is a terrific rom. Once the good folks over at cyanogenmod.com release their froyo port the dev said he will begin work for the next update of lightning bolt. In the mean time I seriously suggest you check out this rom. Should be about a week.
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kaos's started from a dump and once source was released he is building from source.
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That was my understanding at least. Because as soon as the source was released we had sound and lights and overclocking. But honestly the cyanogen mod froyo release gives me goosebumps to think about how jit is honestly going to react once its on the correct setup.
+1,000,000 to whoever gets JIT working on an Eris FroYo rom
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That was my understanding at least. Because as soon as the source was released we had sound and lights and overclocking. But honestly the cyanogen mod froyo release gives me goosebumps to think about how jit is honestly going to react once its on the correct setup.
+1,000,000 to whoever gets JIT working on an Eris FroYo rom
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Jit will likely be in the kaosfroyo 11, he already made reference to why it wasn't working. Also darchstar had it running in his froyo for the hero for awhile now.
BFS KERNEL NOW COMPATIBLE WITH DESIREC(ERIS)
Found at link..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774
Tainted Tenzo 2.1 v8 and/or Kaos Froyo v31
wilshyre said:
Is this true and what does it mean?
Found at link..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774
Tainted Tenzo 2.1 v8 and/or Kaos Froyo v31
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Awesome find!
korben dallas said:
Awesome find!
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I know! But I don't know much about it.. What does it mean for us exactly?
Tainted Tenzo 2.1 v8 and/or Kaos Froyo v31
Hmm .. Maybe I should try this .
BFS = BrainFuck Scheduler... it has worked for a while with the Eris, since Framework43's Senseless ROM a few months ago I do believe.
Hmm.. so no new fun stuff to tinker with? Damn... :-(
It says the 8/29 release is now compatible with eris, as though it wasn't before..
Tainted Tenzo 2.1 v8 and/or Kaos Froyo v31
You still have to compile it with a .config set up for the eris. The precompiled kernels in the OP won't work.
I can compile one real quick for you guys and you can test it.
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You still have to compile it with a .config set up for the eris. The precompiled kernels in the OP won't work.
I can compile one real quick for you guys and you can test it.
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Thanks in advance! thats awesome of you
zwade01 said:
BFS = BrainFuck Scheduler... it has worked for a while with the Eris, since Framework43's Senseless ROM a few months ago I do believe.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6564438&highlight=brainfuck+scheduler#post6564438
It's right above the screen shots in the OP.
I'll give it a try if you do! I jumped the gun and tried to flash that one and it stuck on the boot screen. Now I know why...lol.
Compiled Kernel
That would be super cool of you to compile one for us to test! Is this a .29 or .32
.29 kernel.
First things first:
This is meant for froyo, but it might work on other ROMs
I doubt your soft keys will work
There will random issues, based on some differences, but probably 'minor'
GPS is, for a lack of a better word, 'unstable' with BFS on .29(working on this)
This may not even flash correctly, idk.
It could burn your house down
All could go well and we could skip through a field of flowers, otherwise.
That being said, this isn't 'stable', this is just a 'test'.
Code:
I AM NOT LIABLE FOR ANY KIND OF POO THAT MUTANT ZOMBIE MONKEYS FLING AT YOU BEFORE, DURING, OR AFTER FLASHING THIS UPDATE.ZIP. IT WAS YOUR CHOICE.
I also included the anykernel update.zip(thanks zenulator/koush) and this should work with any zimage that you throw in there(I just had to change the base address in makebootimg.sh).
Further on down the road, I'll probably release a few 'stable' kernels here, well, only if people want.
Download: Here
MD5: cc234099b74765cebec4c8766b25ba85
Thanks Decad3nce!
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Just flashed no problem.
Confirmed working Softkeys (though they dont light up they DO function)
kernel version reports as 2.6.29.6-BrainfuctEris properly
Status update:
Phone functions okay for about 10 seconds after boot then locks up and becomes totally unresponsive, then needs a battery pull.
eklipze said:
Thanks Decad3nce!
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Just flashed no problem.
Confirmed working Softkeys (though they dont light up they DO function)
kernel version reports as 2.6.29.6-BrainfuctEris properly
Status update:
Phone functions okay for about 10 seconds after boot then locks up and becomes totally unresponsive, then needs a battery pull.
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Can the eris not handle 768mhz?
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Can the eris not handle 768mhz?
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Mine usually can. thats the highest i can go before i get reboots.
Wouldn't boot and yes I have mine at 806mhz
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App
eklipze said:
Thanks Decad3nce!
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Just flashed no problem.
Confirmed working Softkeys (though they dont light up they DO function)
kernel version reports as 2.6.29.6-BrainfuctEris properly
Status update:
Phone functions okay for about 10 seconds after boot then locks up and becomes totally unresponsive, then needs a battery pull.
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hasnt locked up for me at all only thing is the lights
edit . spoke to soon lol
tazzpatriot said:
hasnt locked up for me at all only thing is the lights
edit . spoke to soon lol
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can you guys pull the last_kmsg
Code:
adb pull /proc/last_kmsg lastkmsg.txt
and paste it on pastebin or upload it here.
Decad3nce said:
Can the eris not handle 768mhz?
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Not trying to tell you what or how to do things, but for "testing", maybe it would be better or safer to just stay at 528mhz or so. I've seen Eris' OC'd (reliably ?) up to 806mhz, I think. Mine won't though... I run at 710 or 768 all day long.
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Not trying to tell you what or how to do things, but for "testing", maybe it would be better or safer to just stay at 528mhz or so. I've seen Eris' OC'd (reliably ?) up to 806mhz, I think. Mine won't though... I run at 710 or 768 all day long.
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Eris is more capable than the hero hardware wise, and just about everyone can oc up to 768 in the heroc forums. Shouldn't be a problem. I think it's just a kernel panic being caused by something silly.