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Eris Overclock?

Hi guys, reading up on the Eris a little (I have a Moto Droid as my main phone). Got it rooted with 2.1 and flashed over Evil Eris and the LWP/Launcher2 updates and it seems pretty good so far! My question is when is overclocking going to be coming to this phone? Had my Droid clocked at 1.25GHz and it was rockin'! I didn't see a thread on it here (yes, I did search!) so I thought I would make one.
Thanks!

We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.

Apparently No one has modified the system kernals on anything so far, so over clocking isn't available yet... I'm sure a dev is working on it though...

GrdLock said:
We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.
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you know it.

Of course the .27 kernel source is available, we've tried that kernel with 2.1 and it doesn't work right, and would take a lot of work to get working right, then more work to overclock. Not worth it really. We need the newer .29 source.

In the weeks ahead I will backport all the drivers from .29 to .27 needed to make it all but camera fully functional as I did with the heroc and have began doing for the gsm hero. Overclockin to 700mhz is possible for the turbo msm7k devices. I have a patch to enable it but there is some sort of conflict in the kernel that sops it from booting. Ramconsole shows it setting the desired clocks but then that's just the end of it. No more messages after that. The source is proven to work on all msm7k CPUs and it just seems to have an issue with something HTC added to our source. I haven't had much time to play with it but I've started a thread on it in the cdma hero forum. U can check there for more details on it. The patch I posted will apply clean to the Eris kernel source and all instructions are there for how to set it up. Anyone who wants to try and see what's causing it not to boot is welcome to. All I ask OS u post it findings in that thread as I would like to get it working and I always share my soutce, findings, and work. I just ask for others to do the same.

source code is easier than you might think
ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it

rrmimms said:
ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it
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But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?

trav473 said:
But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?
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Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.

CPCookieMan said:
Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.
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Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.

sms440 said:
Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.
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i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week

jamezelle said:
i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week
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I sure hope so.

ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.

Dizzy_Dez said:
ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.
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that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?

ch4sethe5un said:
that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?
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yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.

toastcfh said:
yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.
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Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.

So SetCPU doesn't work properly on the Eris, right? I had it running for a while but it always said min = 480, max = 528, no matter what I set it to. Also, the battery was draining FAST! It would die in about 10 hours. I turned it off today and it was at 80% battery left after 10 hours and I didn't notice any difference in performance.

piercedtiger said:
Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.
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528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling

toastcfh said:
528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling
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thanks. That would speed things up a little.

Anyone know what effect this will have to games, and live wallpapers?

Any Overclocked ROM with Camera??

Just curious, as that is why I am not putting the latest FreshToast v1 on my phone - I use the camera every day...
So, are there any overclocked ROMs with the camera?? That would be great!

Try looking HERE.

mrcharlesiv said:
Try looking HERE.
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LOL!! Love it

mrcharlesiv said:
Try looking HERE.
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lmao or this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668905

OK, so I am supposed to read 10,000 pages of random comments about the custom ROMs instead of asking?
I have searched by the way, and found no definitive answer. If it's obvious and you know the answer, why not post "no" or "yes" instead of the wise-ass reply?
And if the answer is not obvious - well, that's why I posed the question.

mrcharlesiv said:
Try looking HERE.
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WOW! That must be new.... there is a search on here?

putting it simply, if there was an overclocked rom with working camera, everyone would copy that and have the same thing. then it would be easy to find one. did you see any roms on the front page with working camera and overclock?

ill hijack this thread...id like to see a stable 2.1 rom with everything working but stripped of sense totally, can it happen?

Only if you run a 1.5 rom.
I released a modified boot.img and wlan.ko that you can patch gumbo 1.5c rom with.
you can find it here http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-hero-roms-hacks/10138-gumbo-1-5c-overclock.html
I made it for my own personal use and just put it out there for anyone who might want it. All I did was apply the patch to the boot.img from gumbo 1.5c tweaker edition then flashed it to my phone. I was already running gumbo 1.5c tweaker edition so it has only been tested to work flashed over that.
It most likely would flash just fine over any 1.5 rom, but it will add gumbos custom low memory killer and a script that modifies the cpu scaling. If you use it you can't use setcpu. The rom already does what setcpu does.
If you do want it, flash at your own risk, and make sure to backup first.
I could release an overclocked 1.5 kernel that does not use gumbo, or is based off another rom if there is any demand for it, but I think with 2.1 around the corner, and so many almost fully functional 2.1 roms out there, the only people that would even be interested are those who can't run a 2.1 rom due to audio loss issues. that is not too many.

I heard the iAndroid 4G was found left in a bar incognito... I want one!
::ROFL::

obelisk79 said:
I heard the iAndroid 4G was found left in a bar incognito... I want one!
::ROFL::
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id buy a "cough" iphone if it were running a fully working port of android.

no, it won't happen till htc releases the .29 kernel source. though you could overclock and have it on 1.5 working, i'm pretty sure.
and for you guys who keep telling him to search, at least give him an answer. i understand how anoying it is to see all these threads... but really. at least still help out.

justinisyoung said:
no, it won't happen till htc releases the .29 kernel source. though you could overclock and have it on 1.5 working, i'm pretty sure.
and for you guys who keep telling him to search, at least give him an answer. i understand how anoying it is to see all these threads... but really. at least still help out.
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im pretty sure pancake 1.5 is already tweaked with gbhil's custom kernel. you can also use autokiller on extreme mode and make that rom fly!
im running it and i love it, best rom ive used so far.

justinisyoung said:
no, it won't happen till htc releases the .29 kernel source. though you could overclock and have it on 1.5 working, i'm pretty sure.
and for you guys who keep telling him to search, at least give him an answer. i understand how anoying it is to see all these threads... but really. at least still help out.
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I compiled the oc patch into a 1.5 boot.img based off of gumbo 1.5c tweaker. Post #9 in this thread!
I am getting similar benchmarks as a OC 2.1 rom w/o JIT.
3.1 MFLOPS on linpack
28-29 fps on neocore not killing any tasks
6535 ms on benchmark Pi.
Stock 1.5 rom was
26 fps with all tasks killed
2.36 MFLOPs linpack
10635 ms benchmark pi

Thanks for the info obelisk, justin and obchaos.
Now, was that so hard? ;-)
For the rest of you, just because the search function does not yield an answer does not mean the answer is not out there, now does it?
I had better not see any of you ever posting a question on here ;-)
In any case, I remember 2.1 did not have the camera working for a while, then someone fixed it, right? So it seems that this is not a crazy question to ask.
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ronnienyc said:
Thanks for the info obelisk, justin and obchaos.
Now, was that so hard? ;-)
For the rest of you, just because the search function does not yield an answer does not mean the answer is not out there, now does it?
I had better not see any of you ever posting a question on here ;-)
In any case, I remember 2.1 did not have the camera working for a while, then someone fixed it, right? So it seems that this is not a crazy question to ask.
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90% of the 2.1 roms have a fully functional camera now.

fixxxer2008 said:
ill hijack this thread...id like to see a stable 2.1 rom with everything working but stripped of sense totally, can it happen?
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Try my ROM

mrinehart93 said:
Try my ROM
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thanks i may give it a go.

fixxxer2008 said:
90% of the 2.1 roms have a fully functional camera now.
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Yes, which is why I was asking about the 2.1 roms with overclocking...I thought maybe one or more of them would have camera working by now.
Thanks.

ronnienyc said:
Yes, which is why I was asking about the 2.1 roms with overclocking...I thought maybe one or more of them would have camera working by now.
Thanks.
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i dunno about overclocked ones. you could use autokiller off the market to free up a ton of ram. i know setcpu does not work on 2.1

[Kernel] 2.6.29 For Aosp | Multitouch, OverClock, BFS, EXT4

Hey guys, so ya, i'm back. Ya i know some of you don't like me from before with whatever bashing i have done, but i have come to ammend for myself. well anyways i compiled a working kernel (yes, it works. Teamandirc tested it for me). this has wifi, Multitouch, Overclocked at 768 mhz (defaults at 710, push it up with OC widget for 768mhz), Brain f*ck scheduler, and ext4 support.
Have fun with this everyone. And sorry for whatever animosity i have stirred previously. i hope this amends for it. This should work, as i said before, teamandirc tested it for me
http://darchroms.pocketdevelopers.com/eris/OC_BFS8.zip
Note, some people have mixed experiences, so be sure to make a nandroid just in case

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Hey guys, so ya, i'm back. Ya i know some of you don't like me from before with whatever bashing i have done, but i have come to ammend for myself. well anyways i compiled a working kernel (yes, it works. Teamandirc tested it for me). this has wifi, Multitouch, Overclocked at 768 mhz (defaults at 710, push it up with OC widget for 768mhz), Brain f*ck scheduler, and ext4 support.
Have fun with this everyone. And sorry for whatever animosity i have stirred previously. i hope this amends for it. This should work, as i said before, teamandirc tested it for me
http://darchroms.pocketdevelopers.com/eris/OC_BFS8.zip
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Great work darchstar! This has been a team effort and hopefully can show that developers can work outside the borders of their own device's forum. I am quite grateful for the several hours you spent developing this and am sure it will be used in many roms to come.

Great work! Loading up now

darchstar said:
Hey guys, so ya, i'm back. Ya i know some of you don't like me from before with whatever bashing i have done, but i have come to ammend for myself. well anyways i compiled a working kernel (yes, it works. Teamandirc tested it for me). this has wifi, Multitouch, Overclocked at 768 mhz (defaults at 710, push it up with OC widget for 768mhz), Brain f*ck scheduler, and ext4 support.
Have fun with this everyone. And sorry for whatever animosity i have stirred previously. i hope this amends for it. This should work, as i said before, teamandirc tested it for me
http://darchroms.pocketdevelopers.com/eris/OC_BFS8.zip
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thanks Darch for the work and glad to see the drama seems to be over .....
edit: every thing seems to ....work including OC ....
one question: what is BFS?

Thanks Darch. OC working pretty good.

rvpartsguy said:
thanks Darch for the work and glad to see the drama seems to be over .....
edit: every thing seems to ....work including OC ....
one question: what is BFS?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_Fuck_Scheduler

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_Fuck_Scheduler
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thanks ....

anyone have the MD5?

subiewrex said:
anyone have the MD5?
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3b61e79d59f081a717b54c9db8ca2db4

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3b61e79d59f081a717b54c9db8ca2db4
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Thanks; that matches up to what I have too.

what what ive heard it looks like its working for some and not for others.
has nothing to do with your rom, more ot do with hardware

Every time I put my phone to sleep... it defaults back to 480. Have to go back into setcpu and move the slider to get it working again. I think this V8 is a good start, but it definitely needs some polishing.

Hey went I flash this kernel my phone doesn't start up at all running Ivan Eris official 1.0 I get stuck on the boot screen thank god for nand
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Hey went I flash this kernel my phone doesn't start up at all running Ivan Eris official 1.0 I get stuck on the boot screen thank god for nand
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this is an AOSP kernel, so i do not believe it will work for any sense based roms like Ivans ...... this is meant for roms like senseless, cyanogenEris and white widow
I maybe wrong, and if I am I am sure someone will correct me

Just tried to flash over Senseless and it booted but then wouldn't work past lock screen. Touch screen stopped working at lock screen and I had to abort. Trying again to see if it was user error...
*Tried to reflash over Framework's Senseless again and had same thing happen. Booted up, got to lock screen, but then all touch control was gone. Bottom row buttons and screen.
Thanks again for your efforts Darch. It's awesome to see hero devs helping out.

works great on cyanogen eris, i get a 4.8 in linpack. only thing is setcpu wont auto detect, i tried a couple different ones that worked before, and no auto detect option.

Thanks Darch. You devs never cease to amaze me!!!

No go for me on frames cyan beta. Phone boots but gets stuck at lock screen.

Darch,
I'm going to give this a test drive with CE and post back with result along with logcat perhaps that will help? can you tell me which ROM TeamAndirc use for testing?

didnt work for me, on CE, got to lockscreen screen wouldnt work soft keys wouldnt work either

Overclocking EVO?

Since Android runs on a linux kernel, can it overclock the processor like the Pre? The Pre 800mhz makes it goes from 500mhz to 800mhz, a 60% increase without killing the battery.

Yes, at least 10%.

Check out the N1 forums. They have a snapdragon as well and, last I checked, have it overclocked to 1.3 ghz I think. Toast released an overclocked kernel for the Hero so I'm sure we can use that same code to overclock the Evo.

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Check out the N1 forums. They have a snapdragon as well and, last I checked, have it overclocked to 1.3 ghz I think. Toast released an overclocked kernel for the Hero so I'm sure we can use that same code to overclock the Evo.
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In theory you're right as the Evo also uses a qualcomm MSM chipset, but the code will definitely take some finagling. I'm sure toast and maejrep can get it going though.

kmartburrito said:
In theory you're right as the Evo also uses a qualcomm MSM chipset, but the code will definitely take some finagling. I'm sure toast and maejrep can get it going though.
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I'm sorry. Good point. I should not have said exact same code. But regardless, the theory should be the same so we can definitely OC it.

While I know this phone will be the tits, I'd love a fully-functioning AOSP 2.1/2.2 (meaning camera and 4G radio) rom, with an overclock.
The Darchdroid AOSP 2.1 rom for the hero runs so smooth....it's like butter.

tokuzumi said:
While I know this phone will be the tits, I'd love a fully-functioning AOSP 2.1/2.2 (meaning camera and 4G radio) rom, with an overclock.
The Darchdroid AOSP 2.1 rom for the hero runs so smooth....it's like butter.
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It wasn't like butter for me. More like margarine. Less fat but leaves a bad after taste. ha ha. Like I said in other threads I am working on an AOSP port for the Evo so once I get root I can test it and hopefully release it shortly after the 4th. Hopefully we can add some overclocking to that.

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It wasn't like butter for me. More like margarine. Less fat but leaves a bad after taste. ha ha. Like I said in other threads I am working on an AOSP port for the Evo so once I get root I can test it and hopefully release it shortly after the 4th. Hopefully we can add some overclocking to that.
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Even comparing the fresh toast, to the AOSP rom, the AOSP ran much smoother for me. Both were overclocked to the same speed.
I'll be checking up on your progress, as you definitely have me intrigued. Do you have 4G in your area? I want to make sure 4G is functional, since I'm in the middle of a big ole' pocket of 4G.

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I'm sorry. Good point. I should not have said exact same code. But regardless, the theory should be the same so we can definitely OC it.
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Exactly right. And I think the drawback for us on the Hero really was OpenGL 2.0 support. Had we had that in the beginning, it would have been like melted butter
But you take lemons and make lemonade, right?
Ha, even if it doesn't need it, I'd still overclock it. It's really an obsession. I can't help but void any warranty if the situation presents itself.

I'm sure toast is working on it already

chippillie said:
I'm sure toast is working on it already
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Of course he is. Since he already has his makeshift kernel for it than oc cant be far off,which im sure he's already set his sights on
TOAST TOAST TOAST ​

my wet dream:
darchdroid aosp froyo 2.2 for evo with everything working, overclocked to 1.2ghz

catpunt said:
my wet dream:
darchdroid aosp froyo 2.2 for evo with everything working, overclocked to 1.2ghz
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agreed

Quick port of my patches from the N1/Desire, attached are the two relevant files (one for config and one in arch/arm/mach-msm).
You could probably get away with undervolting too, but there is no guarantee that it will go up to 1.267GHz that these patches will allow.

coolbho3000 said:
Quick port of my patches from the N1/Desire, attached are the two relevant files (one for config and one in arch/arm/mach-msm).
You could probably get away with undervolting too, but there is no guarantee that it will go up to 1.267GHz that these patches will allow.
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Nice one bro. Once root is released I'm sure these will come in handy.

Heh, I shoulda known, but I never realized so many major figures of the android community are active on XDA... pretty pumped for SetCPU once I get my EVO. Not so much for OC, but clocking down to save bat <3

coolbho3000 said:
Quick port of my patches from the N1/Desire, attached are the two relevant files (one for config and one in arch/arm/mach-msm).
You could probably get away with undervolting too, but there is no guarantee that it will go up to 1.267GHz that these patches will allow.
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Fantastic! I swear the Evo is going to be able to drive my car for me before Friday at the rate you guys are churning out gold Thanks for providing this!

Does overclocking a phone this sweet really make that big a difference?
So far it seems like almost the very instant I click something, it's up and running already. (I haven't tried any big and crazy games yet though)
BTW I'm expecting my rooted fresh Hero to bow down and start worshiping my EVO at any second now

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does overclocking a phone this sweet really make that big a difference?
So far it seems like almost the very instant i click something, it's up and running already. (i haven't tried any big and crazy games yet though)
btw i'm expecting my rooted fresh hero to bow down and start worshiping my evo at any second now
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catpunt said:
my wet dream:
darchdroid aosp froyo 2.2 for evo with everything working, overclocked to 1.2ghz
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Darchdroid is amazing.. Im running it right now on my hero. But shouldnt everyone be wanting a Cyanogen rom. I mean it is what Darchdroid is based on entirely.
Darch is amazing and can do alot. But he uses the source from cyanogen. Cyan should be getting alot more credit.

do we need more sense kernels?

been seeing all the great aosp kernels lately and i was thinking aside from the netarchy kernel we really do not have alot of other options. would anybody love to see savage-zen or something like that work on sense roms too?

can there be improvements made over the existing sense kernels?

Theres no point. Evo is apparently too old to even get official announcements about GB meaning if you want to stay current it's AOSP or nothing.
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.

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Theres no point. Evo is apparently too old to even get official announcements about GB meaning if you want to stay current it's AOSP or nothing.
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
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sadly i think you may be right. hopefully we may still get a ginger/sense port though.

Better kernels. SavagedZen was the bomb onb CM, but his Froyo kernel is useless on the sense ROMs I've run...
NetarcyToast has never been good for me.
Ziggy's is ok, but nothing close to what I got on CM7 with SZ

Ziggy is still putting out. Id like to see his with the code for HDMI mirror.
http://www.ziggy471.com/

Ziggy always worked really well for me, net is good too. SZ never runs better my phone than the stock kernel. We could always use more, but I think the ones we have are really good.

HipKat said:
Better kernels. SavagedZen was the bomb onb CM, but his Froyo kernel is useless on the sense ROMs I've run...
NetarcyToast has never been good for me.
Ziggy's is ok, but nothing close to what I got on CM7 with SZ
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loll.... that might be because sz doesnt make sense kernels...

HipKat said:
Better kernels. SavagedZen was the bomb onb CM, but his Froyo kernel is useless on the sense ROMs I've run...
NetarcyToast has never been good for me.
Ziggy's is ok, but nothing close to what I got on CM7 with SZ
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Froyo isn't for sense
Sent from my Xoom

I'm using Ziggy's BFS-031211 beta and it's running amazingly. Great battery life and lots of snap to it. I know bench marks don't mean much but I was hitting 1570's-1590's on average with a peak of 1634 on quadrant.

aimbdd said:
loll.... that might be because sz doesnt make sense kernels...
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I know, that was my point

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fixxxer2008 said:
sadly i think you may be right. hopefully we may still get a ginger/sense port though.
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Wrong, we are getting gingerbread, sadly, that will probably be the last update we receive via OTA