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Is it worth going from stock to MoDaCo?

Hello-
First off, please excuse my n00bness - I'm from the world of Windows Mobile hacking, and this Android stuff is really confusing me.
I've been tolerating stock for a while, but the slowness is really getting to me - today I clocked my Hero at 12 seconds to wake up from standby, which is just unacceptable. I'd like to know if there are any significant speed benefits to going from stock to the latest MoDaCo rom? Are there any downsides? I read the post over at modaco.com, but couldn't see any "known issues".
Thanks for any input,
TM

Take the plunge.

I went from stock to Fresh and overlayed Modaco. My uptime shot to 90%, 80% and stuck at 70%.
I reflashed to Stock then back to Modaco. I am now at around 15% uptime. I removed the bloatware from Sprint and LOVE the speed of this phone now. Its what I expected when I bought it.

I have no doubt that you'll see a speed increase with Modaco. Especially if you remove the sprint apps once you load Modaco.

Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.

it's worth it to switch to any custom rom. bluetooth is just something thats messed up with our 1.5 builds.

ffolkes said:
Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.
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you will notice a big difference switching to modaco 2.2... and im not experiencing any BT issues at all... matter or fact, im not experiencing ANY issues with anything using this rom...

Heck, anything is better than stock.

especially since we have a custom kernel now its definitely worth it to go to any custom rom, especially modaco 2.2

Im using fresh. I used the kitchen to root my phone and installed 1.1. No problems so far except that the voice recorder app keep crashing for some reason. I did an upgrade without wiping though so that might be my problem.
Its a lot faster and the tether app is awesome!

Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?

I ran stok for about 6 hours and decided that I didnt pay that much money for a smart phone that was that slow.
I flashed Fresh 1.0 to start and I have tried just about all the roms that are out there. Including modaco 2.2 and it may just be that I started with fresh but I always seem to go back to it over the rest, and add onto that the modaco kernel with compcache and then doing the config tweak found here my phone just flies now.
I now have it set to where I feel a phone at this price point should be to start.
edit: to remove the apps follow the instructions found here

ffolkes said:
Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?
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Use the Fresh Kitchen to pull any you don't want.

You know what? I've flashed MoDaCo's ROM before, but it was just too much like stock (except for the obvious speed increases). I flashed Fresh 1.1, and loved it because it had the speed of MoDaCo's, plus the Espresso UI. Then I recently flashed Gumbo Kernel to my phone, and omgwtfzorz my phone is RIDICULOUSLY fast. Not noticeably, but RIDICULOUSLY. I can't believe you've been living with stock for this long >.< Custom ROM's and kernels are necessary for this phone haha.

[ROM REQUEST] last 1.5 rom before completely dropped

I'm not sure if i am in the right thread to put this in but as the title stated I would like one last 1.5 Rom betorr it is dropped completely.
I tried 1.6 but the headphones doesn't work nor does the speaker when on a call. Right now i am using fresh 1.1 Rom and it is very fast and light weight but I was wondering if there was any tweaks or any services or apk thatcan be added or removed to increase performance stability or battery life.
Anyone wants to the resurrect this rom?

dondadah88 said:
I'm not sure if i am in the right thread to put this in but as the title stated I would like one last 1.5 Rom betorr it is dropped completely.
I tried 1.6 but the headphones doesn't work nor does the speaker when on a call. Right now i am using fresh 1.1 Rom and it is very fast and light weight but I was wondering if there was any tweaks or any services or apk thatcan be added or removed to increase performance stability or battery life.
Anyone wants to the resurrect this rom?
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i guarantee either bikcmp or fixxxer2008 would LOVE to...

Try doing a search for Gumbo 1.5c... I think that has been mentioned as one of the faster 1.5 ROMS.

I don't follow the drama on here, so have no idea what you two are talking about... Just stating that I have seen many talk about how much they like
1.5c.

The fastest 1.5 ROM I had was Fresh 1.1 with gbhil's .31 Gumbo Kernal. That combo is probably faster than some of the 2.1 roms.

MILH0U5E said:
I don't follow the drama on here, so have no idea what you two are talking about... Just stating that I have seen many talk about how much they like
1.5c.
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Wow, no one gets jokes either.. oh well, yeah I ran Fresh 1.1 w/ gumbo kernel for a while, it was great! I'd go with that if you want 1.5.

How would I put in his kernal in it I am running the fresh Rom and I find it the best one as everything works and it is very stable.
BTW regaw your toolbox is awesome. I would love to give you ideas to improve id you want any and I saw some poeople was posting hate on it. Don't worry about them your toolbox is perfect.
Can I flash a kkernal on a Rom and it will work fine?
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Ok I just flashed it with the .31 kernal and I must say this maybe wishful thinking but dam this is fast I will try it out and will see how it performs.
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I have been using this fresh 1.1 (1.5 Rom)and .31 kernel all day and I have to say that I am no longer intrested in the evo 4g until my upgrade. My phone idles at 85mb of RAM and I have all my apps installed.
I'm multitasking and I haven't gone less then 50mb of ram so far.
I will put it up to the real test later on this week when I am listening to music, using Google navigation, texting, and on the web at the same time to see how it stands up to the test.
My girlfriend gave me her motorala droid so I will compare the speeds to it to see how it stands up.
I think if we can shave off some things out of it. And try to get it to idle over 100mb it will be very nice.
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regaw_leinad said:
i guarantee either bikcmp or fixxxer2008 would LOVE to...
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You called? LOL.
Well, look at pancake 0.1, which is 1.5, or gtalk/email me and I'll make a custom rom ([email protected](I like email because I can make sure that it's answered))

So I install a memory manager and my phone justcrapped out. I went from 80mb free to 25mb free and no matter what settings I change it to it didn't make a diffence. My keyboard started to lag and it was horible.
I uninstalled it and flash over .31 kernal and I was back yo normal lol
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How many of you are happy with EB13?

I updated my Epic on the day EB13 was released. I used the update.zip using the stock recovery on my stock/rooted DI18 (no data/cache wipes before updating) which kept all my data and apps intact. After the update, the only problems I had were the one related to the camera (video lag in low light and still camera FC in sport mode), but after the kernel fix was introduced (thanks to mkasick) I have had absolutely ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NO problems. Granted I am still using basically the stock EB13 rooted only with Launcher Pro, but everything has worked as it should (GPS, SMS, MMS, video recording, camera, music player, SD card, etc.). The only issue for me is probably the checkerboarding on the stock browser which is not a big deal for me anyways.
How many of you have been happy with your EB13 upgrade experience?

I am waiting for a custom ROM.

Mine worked good on stock and even better using the genocide kernel.
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I'm running a beta build of a custom rom and I couldn't be happier. I'm not having any of the issues reported
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I've been very happy with the upgrade, I haven't ran into any problems with this build. Now I'm just waiting for the developers to really start pushing out their releases! Dying to get my hands on a official CM6.2 and MiUi!
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Already running Midnight rom with the Genocide kernel. Getting great battery life and my GPS definitely feels improved. Haven't dropped signal during nav yet (knock on wood)
Can't wait for more Roms and especially updated Cyanogen and Miui like above.

Running EB13 with midNIGHT ROM 4.1....my phone runs great, better than when it was on a DK28 mod

Mine runs great all stock EB13

raylusk said:
Mine worked good on stock and even better using the genocide kernel.
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Whats the genocide kernel? what advantages does it have over the stock eb13 kernel?

shahin26 said:
Whats the genocide kernel? what advantages does it have over the stock eb13 kernel?
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The Genocide Kernel, is a kernel made my one of the Devs here. You can find it's thread in the Development section for more details.
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I was using stock EB13 with no problems..today I flashed the genocide kernel since I figure it can't hurt to have more battery life...
As for checker-boarding on the browser..coming from a TP2..I hardly call that checkerboarding lol

as for the checkerboarding browser, does anyone know if that is only on the stock browser, or others such as Dolphin as well?

Running EB13 stock w/genocide, no complaints. I use the miren browser as my default.
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I flashed eb13 with the samsung exe and immediately got root access and changed over to deodexed/ext4 and with the lastest genocide kernel .... close to perfect ... with the overclock and pretty heavy use battery life is darn good, amazingly. My battery app estimates 11.5 hrs @ 58%. I'm constantly picking the thing up and using it today. All apps run fine and now the browser is substantially faster than the wifes laptop! Was just on the gamestop site with a flash game review playing along side a bunch of animated adds and it still played great. 1375/3020 smartbench. This is all the "phone" I'll need for some time to come! Since the camera fix in genocide kernel, all regrets are gone. Plus, if you love video media like I do, you MUST have 2.2 as the video decoding and audio decoding are sgnificantly improved. 2.1 would stutter a bit with very high bit rate stuff. 2.2 makes the best quality video play FLAWLESSLY. Never a dropped frame. Even @2mbit/sec. Watching a movie on my phone is nearly as pleasing as my well calibrated big screen.
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EB13 is pretty good. Except for the bt voice dialing not working. If you don't have this issue what update method and what rom are you running???
Epic 4g

I'm happy. the battery is lasting for up to 24 hours now. I even slept through the night without charging it and woke up to a not dead phone. oh the possibilities

stock eb13 w root and cam patch, couldnt b more pleased w my phone

Not me. Its seems much better at first. But when you start getting random fc's here and there it tells you somethings wrong. In all honestly I think 2.1 eclair ran this phone with ease like a current machine would run winxp. No problems and everythings snappy. Works the way its suppose to. Throw win7 in and now youve complicated things by adding in bore instruction sets that might conflict. Not to say that it isn't gonna work well but we can clearly see sprint was full of **** when they said they were thoroughly testing for bugs. Build the is from the ground up with gingerbread. Until that happens were gonna keep getting updates that fix **** instead of updates that turn our epics for the better. Its what this hardware deserves. Next year when tegra 2's are mainstream phonemena hummingbird will be the mid level tier. Even with 2.2 I still think this hardware has more to give.
My 2 cents.
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RushAOZ said:
Not me. Its seems much better at first. But when you start getting random fc's here and there it tells you somethings wrong. In all honestly I think 2.1 eclair ran this phone with ease like a current machine would run winxp. No problems and everythings snappy. Works the way its suppose to. Throw win7 in and now youve complicated things by adding in bore instruction sets that might conflict. Not to say that it isn't gonna work well but we can clearly see sprint was full of **** when they said they were thoroughly testing for bugs. Build the is from the ground up with gingerbread. Until that happens were gonna keep getting updates that fix **** instead of updates that turn our epics for the better. Its what this hardware deserves. Next year when tegra 2's are mainstream phonemena hummingbird will be the mid level tier. Even with 2.2 I still think this hardware has more to give.
My 2 cents.
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That's impossible in all honesty. With the way people were crying about the 2.2 update to build something from kernel up and redo it people would be crying "gingerbread is taking too long" screw Samsung, and Sprint...

i odin'd back to DI18 a day before EB13 and only restored contacts.
once EB13 dropped, i wiped everything 3 times w/ clockwork, upgraded via the update.zip method. Then did the 1 click root, and manually re-installed all my apps etc.
The one thing that really kills the 'new' froyo for me is the bluetooth problems still being present like on DK28. I got so damn irritated w/ DK28's bluetooth problems that i actually went back to 2.1
Now that i'm using EN13, I'm still pretty honked off but it hasn't irritated me enough yet to go back to eclair.. depends on how flaky the bluetooth becomes.
So far, I'm running stock EB13, 1 click root, genocide kernel installed yesterday) and gonna gauge battery life.
I'm really wanting to try out the MIUI and/or cyanogenmod once they're a little less buggy.. the devs are making great progress, but i need a fairly non-buggy phone for work so that's why i'm waiting (not complaining.. i experiment on the weekends w/ ROMs and such)
my .02

CleanGB [EI22] love it

i love this ROM. tried a few others, but wanted a clean ROM with limited theme-ing. GPS works great. battery seems better. only thing that was missing was Google Talk with video capability, but found that add-on which is flashable through CWM. i feel like i have the perfect phone now. i'm a newbie, so couldn't post this on the development threads, but THANK YOU toadlife!!!
here's the CleanGB ROM thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344074
here's the Google Talk with Video add-on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245376

Agreed toad has done a great job with his rom and is so very responsive to feedback and quick to fix any issues. Plus I love his commitment to open source and the gpl. I also like how he is ignoring the tweaks and scripts and focusing on stability.
Sent from my Epic - auto correct mistakes and all.

Been waiting for a rom like this forever. I usually have problems with FCs every custom rom by now. But this one isz a winner~ maybe because of it being so close to stock, but without CIQ.
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Clean GB ROM by toadlife was the first GB ROM I installed = no problems whatsoever - easily recommend it to everyone

what they said....
Ditto....I recently rooted and went with CleanGB as my first non-stock ROM. I'm seeing noticeable battery improvements and good quandrant stats. I'm quite pleased.
Thanks for the gtalk video link....I'll be doing the same.
So, who knows how to mod the boot animation on the CleanGB ROM?

der125 said:
Ditto....I recently rooted and went with CleanGB as my first non-stock ROM. I'm seeing noticeable battery improvements and good quandrant stats. I'm quite pleased.
Thanks for the gtalk video link....I'll be doing the same.
So, who knows how to mod the boot animation on the CleanGB ROM?
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DL the Paid version of ROM Toolbox from the Market = it allows you to change it ( plus some other useful stuff it can do )

That Gtalk app screws up the LBE Security app I had installed. Does anybody know if it messes up any other apps.
Wonder why it does that.
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Market is having problems recognizing my apps on SD card after I updated this ROM. Anyone else having this problem ? I don't have enough posts to post in the dev section.
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TexasEpic4G said:
Clean GB ROM by toadlife was the first GB ROM I installed = no problems whatsoever - easily recommend it to everyone
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X2.... First ROM I have ever installed!

Awesome Rom without a doubt, been running since it came out. Usually Jump Around Trying them all out. Happy Here!!! Keep up the Good Work!!!

I almost started a thread like this last week, because I've used a lot of GB roms, ever since they started leaking. CleanGB is easily the best one out there. Everything about my phone always works now. That's a nice feature to have in a ROM. Unless the Epic is your second phone, or you don't do anything important ever, reliability should always come first. CleanGB is what the Epic should have been from the manufacturer.
Everything that should be there, without anything that shouldn't.
Super reliable - everything works.
Great battery life.
Nice and fast, with no slow downs for me.
A clean, subtle, and improved theme.
What more could you ask for?

Yea.. I just installed this ROM and love it so far..
I'm looking to install JUST the 10lock mod that's compatible with this ROM..
do anyone have a link for it??
all the ones I see are themed.. I don't really want to theme anything.. I just want the mod..
Please help if you can..
Thanks,

This is the first ROM I installed. I resisted b/c I don't want another time sink. But Toadlife is right. CleanGB is for people who just want their phone to work.
I realized today that I LIKE my phone. Before, I was really disapointed with it.
THANK YOU TOADLIFE.

Snowy70... I had the same issue and I had to restore my backup and reflash this ROM. Since then no issues.
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der125 said:
Ditto....I recently rooted and went with CleanGB as my first non-stock ROM. I'm seeing noticeable battery improvements and good quandrant stats. I'm quite pleased.
Thanks for the gtalk video link....I'll be doing the same.
So, who knows how to mod the boot animation on the CleanGB ROM?
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How is the Battery compared to Stock Gingerbead? Ive Tried dozens of Roms but ended up back on stock and since ive gone back my battery last twice as long

This ROM is great, I have 2 people in my family with Epic 4G's and they wanted a good stable phone, so I installed this ROM for them and they have had no complaints. Awesome work toadlife!

cds0699 said:
This ROM is great, I have 2 people in my family with Epic 4G's and they wanted a good stable phone, so I installed this ROM for them and they have had no complaints. Awesome work toadlife!
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have it running on the 3 epics in my household and we love this rom. great battery buttery smooth and quick.

Have shied away from custom ROMs due to issues introduced and been on rooted stock but this sounds like it's worth giving a shot. So far so good with everything working.

My favorite rom for sure! Stable, fast, and great battery!

put this on my phone last night and it fixed all of the issues i was having from the other 2 roms i was having and the data was running so much faster.
think this is the only rom i'll be running from here on out

[Info].What is good/bad in different ICS ROM's !

Pls write your opinion about ICS ROM's which you are using, what is good, what is wrong . Its will help to make choice for others .
I'm using Flexreaper 6.1.
Good: smooth, fast, Acer ring is nice. Root is OK. TiTanium Backup is OK. No SoD.
Problem : Have random FC of apk's to black screen.In opera mobile have some big spaces on top and end of the site (xda). Face lock not working. During using stock browser have a lot black blinks of screen, look like that tab is off, but after 1,5 sec its o.k.
P.S. Try to solve Opera problem with different settings. nothing help
Looking to other Rom's, but update of civato is almost the same,as he sad.
Thor write that new rom possible in few days.

Icylicious...no SOD, haven't had a FC issue at all. Tried Flexreaper, but had sod. Though i really like the ring, Icylicious is just more reliable on my machine.
basically everything works for my a500 on Icylicious Rom

well this statement has probably been beaten to death on these forums, everyones silicon is different, the best way to see how a rom is, just to try it. Some kernel tweaks make work wonders for some and others may bring your tablet to halt.
Other than that if theres any themeing done just check out the pics on the devs topic for his/hers rom

This made specially, that no need to search 1000+ posts in Dev threads. And not make garbage posts there. So, I not push, who want help to other peoples, welcome.

Thor's v96
Very stable occasional force close but no more than when on HC.
Only thing missing is camera, but that should be on the next release.
Also has occasional screen wakes but that was due to my Lotus Traveler install, and since removing and reinstalling (and an update to the Traveler version running on the corp server) it has resolved.

peterchannewyork said:
Icylicious...no SOD, haven't had a FC issue at all. Tried Flexreaper, but had sod. Though i really like the ring, Icylicious is just more reliable on my machine.
basically everything works for my a500 on Icylicious Rom
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If you want the ring, just get the apk, and make the changes to your build.prop file.

Taboonay ICS because everything works as far i tested. Stable and fast. The best battery live, 69% left after 3 days. No sleep of death. No unexpected wakekups like on thors rom. Only needs a overclock kernel. It is so usable now. Finally the perfect rom for me.

Also using Taboonay. If I didn't know better, I'd say this might as well be the official RC since everything works so flawlessly. Face unlock works, no FCs, nothing really funny besides a few random speaker pops. I'm very pleased.

Taboonay 3.0.1. Works great and is very clean. Personally I have noticed it handles my company exchange accounts way better than the previous stock 3.2.1.

How is the microphone. Does ics fix it?
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thors rom in its current state shouldnt even be mentioned here...wanna crash it? play youtube fullscreen....
im sure his next update will be great, but alo these other roms have lept passed him.
im using flexreaper, only complaint is occasionally having to restart wifi.

qhinton said:
How is the microphone. Does ics fix it?
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Nope, sorry. The mic is as dismal as ever, which is a shame because I'm dying to use the new voice control system.

Moscow Desire said:
If you want the ring, just get the apk, and make the changes to your build.prop file.
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thanks, will try that.
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bendystrawboy said:
thors rom in its current state shouldnt even be mentioned here...wanna crash it? play youtube fullscreen....
im sure his next update will be great, but alo these other roms have lept passed him.
im using flexreaper, only complaint is occasionally having to restart wifi.
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If Thor updated the rom, it would be amazing.

Now Lightspeed4.21
So, from morning I use Light speed 4.21
Good : Fast, smooth, almost no programs, Opera issue is gone .
Bad : No ring, no language setup when first boot(English pre install) . When have many notifications, widow stuck for some seconds.
P.s. Will try titanium backup.

My mic still has a crackle or two, same for the speakers themselves, remember that all the ics roms are based on the beta leak, not the final. This is all on tabooney 3.0.1
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Mic issues
I'm on Icylicious and the mic may actually be *worse*. I'm also getting the occasional speaker crackles that I wasn't getting with any other rom.
I'm going to try out the Taboonay ICS tonight...I was really pleased the Tab's HC release, and hope the good stuff continues.

bendystrawboy said:
thors rom in its current state shouldnt even be mentioned here...wanna crash it? play youtube fullscreen....
im sure his next update will be great, but alo these other roms have lept passed him.
im using flexreaper, only complaint is occasionally having to restart wifi.
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Your obviously less than intelligent. I have had thors latest build running smooth since release. YouTube is great. Camera is great. Performance menu works. No SOD. Man and to think it's built from scratch. Enjoy your leak based crap. Except civatos work. His work is solid.
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DOGSofDOOM said:
Your obviously less than intelligent. I have had thors latest build running smooth since release. YouTube is great. Camera is great. Performance menu works. No SOD. Man and to think it's built from scratch. Enjoy your leak based crap. Except civatos work. His work is solid.
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That seems a little harsh.

Moscow Desire said:
If you want the ring, just get the apk, and make the changes to your build.prop file.
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Its not that simple.