HTC Incredible feels like [W]ildfire - Droid Incredible General

Is anybody else's phone getting really hot? If I have my shell case on the back them I dont notice it, but if I'm using the phone without the case then I cM tell its getting really hot on both sides.
Is this a standard issue? I had heard of the N1 getting hot.
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I had the same issue when using Live wallpapers. I disabled almost every feature of the phone to maximize battery life including live wallpaper. the phone runs fine now its cold to the touch.

Sometimes the phone will get hot when using GPS or when you are downloading something for awhile or using an App thats a little more intense then normal. If yours is getting hot and staying hot with normal phone use when its just idling, I would take it back.

The most likely cause of this would be if you regularly are in low signal areas, the radio needs more power to boost signal to reach the tower, thus uses battery more quickly, and also generates much more heat than it would in high signal areas. Since the phone cant be overclocked yet, that is really the only reason I can think of that you would have a drastically higher temperature than normal. Coming from an OCd wifi tether droid, I havent found an occasion where the incredible feels anything other than pleasantly cool to the touch, but I guess other peoples experiences may vary. If its the amount of heat you might get from holding it in your hands for a while, I wouldnt worry about it too much. If its hot enough for long periods of time that youre really concerned about, might have a bad radio on your phone, good luck getting an exchange atm >.>

Thanks for all the input.
Im not in an area with low signal. I'm in Little Rock, AR - our arena across the river downtown named "Verizon Arena" for crying loud. Lol. ... It gets hot when I talk on it though, and its not just body heat from my hand. Both the back & front heat up, and sometimes when its charging it gets hot. It doesn't take long, and as a matter of fact its getting warmer as I type this from my phone.
It may be something up with the radio, as was suggested. Yesterday I was trying to call out & when the person on the other line answered they couldn't hear me but could hear them. I called a couple of different people a couple of different times just to test it out & it was messed up every time. I powered the phone off, cut it back on, and it works fine now. Could these be related issues or what? When that was happening I also heard this very high pitched noise coming out of where my ear goes. It has gone away as well, but I'm trying to provide as much detail as possible in case others can help or suggest issues. I really don't want to have to take the phone back - especially since they're fresh out of stock.

Interesting you mentioned the high pitched noise while on phone calls...
I had the exact same problem, whenever I tried to make or recieve calls was getting a high pitched noise from the speaker, i could hear the other party, but they could not hear me. turning phone off and back on fixed the issue. Ive also noticed the #1 app in my battery usage is Cell Standby at 43%. So my radio is using almost half my battery. I live and work around Washington D.C. area so coverage and signal loss should not be an issue. But "Time without a signal is 26%" I'm thinking theres an issue with the radio on the Incredible also... wish there were more confirmed reports.

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Interesting you mentioned the high pitched noise while on phone calls...
I had the exact same problem, whenever I tried to make or recieve calls was getting a high pitched noise from the speaker, i could hear the other party, but they could not hear me. turning phone off and back on fixed the issue. Ive also noticed the #1 app in my battery usage is Cell Standby at 43%. So my radio is using almost half my battery. I live and work around Washington D.C. area so coverage and signal loss should not be an issue. But "Time without a signal is 26%" I'm thinking theres an issue with the radio on the Incredible also... wish there were more confirmed reports.
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NewB question here, but I've seen several mentions of how much battery power an app is taking up. How do you find that out...?

Im using a widget called battery left, I click that to bring up the usage since last unplugged. The longer way is under settings -> about -> battery -> battery use.

I just downloaded & installed the LauncherPro app. I'm running it now & this is the point where my phone is getting really hot. I don't know if the launchers the reason why or not. A) Could running another launcher like LauncherPro be the reason? B) Should I uninstall & just use Sense UI?
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Mik0r said:
Im using a widget called battery left, I click that to bring up the usage since last unplugged. The longer way is under settings -> about -> battery -> battery use.
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Ah, great! Thanks--I'll try it myself.

jGroves said:
I just downloaded & installed the LauncherPro app. I'm running it now & this is the point where my phone is getting really hot. I don't know if the launchers the reason why or not. A) Could running another launcher like LauncherPro be the reason? B) Should I uninstall & just use Sense UI?
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Could be, try finding out if your cpu is running near max a lot, seePU is a good app to get cpu load at a glance. If its constantly near max load with the launcher running its likely the cause.

I don't know how to find CPU temp., but to find battery temp., go to Phone and type in *#*#4636#*#*
Go to Battery information and it's listed in *C.
Maybe that will help....somehow.

[W]ildfire
Hey my phone is doing the same thing so far it reads display is 75% ande everything else is under 10%. my battery temp on set cpu it says its 119 degrees that is the highest i have seen it usually gets between 105 and 110. Id really if someone could tell me what the problem is .

I had this problem before on different roms. There is quite a few variables such the rom, radio, and kernel which could cause your battery to be hot. You may wanna try a different rom to see if you having the same issue.
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Thanks for all the input.
Im not in an area with low signal. I'm in Little Rock, AR - our arena across the river downtown named "Verizon Arena" for crying loud. Lol. ... It gets hot when I talk on it though, and its not just body heat from my hand. Both the back & front heat up, and sometimes when its charging it gets hot. It doesn't take long, and as a matter of fact its getting warmer as I type this from my phone.
It may be something up with the radio, as was suggested. Yesterday I was trying to call out & when the person on the other line answered they couldn't hear me but could hear them. I called a couple of different people a couple of different times just to test it out & it was messed up every time. I powered the phone off, cut it back on, and it works fine now. Could these be related issues or what? When that was happening I also heard this very high pitched noise coming out of where my ear goes. It has gone away as well, but I'm trying to provide as much detail as possible in case others can help or suggest issues. I really don't want to have to take the phone back - especially since they're fresh out of stock.
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yeah i agree that it is apps tearing your battery up... see whats running and straighten it all out.

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[Q] EVO heating up....wtf???

Has anyone experienced their EVO heating up? Since the kick stand is metal or sumn, it gets super warm, enough to make u wonder how hot will it get. I'm a noob so I'm not sure if this is normal.
any feedback or suggestions will be appreciated.
Yes this is natural. My battery will top out at 110f with normal use. The kickstands does a nice job of heating up. I wouldn't worry.
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It's normal. A lot of GPS use also gets it pretty warm pretty quick. Don't worry.
It is normal but you should probably not use it when it gets so hot, let it sit for 5 min and it should drop below 95F.
My evo would also get pretty warm after normal phone operations and would get extremely hot when using gps. My phone was so bad and so hot that it would begin randomly rebooting and wouldn't stop until I put the phone next to the ac for a few minutes or removed the battery for a few minutes. It made my phone reboot a minimum of 10 times a day. I got so frustrated with it that I had to get a replacement and lose my root. Now I'm hoping that stock 2.2 is rooted soon. No problems out of my refurbished EVO so far.
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Mine gets warm fast when trying to find signal, other than that it stays cool.
Oh and wifi tether for two hours straight over 4g made it hit 115°f the other day.
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I have no complaints about this - it stays cool for me throughout. I do remember noticing it got mildly warm a couple of times, but it happens so rarely and it's so unimportant, I didn't bother checking for anything, or even remember what I was doing on it at the time.
Both times I tried to use GPS (Google NAV first then Copilot) my phone got up 130°F and locked up. I had pull the battery and let it cool down. Disappointing at best.
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Both times I tried to use GPS (Google NAV first then Copilot) my phone got up 130°F and locked up. I had pull the battery and let it cool down. Disappointing at best.
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Woah....130? That's crazy, surprised phone didn't fry. It'll probably have to get hotter than that. As long as the phone doesn't mess up, I will continue to enjoy this phone.
My phone generally only gets really hot in the car, when I'm using gps. Luckily I use a vent holder for it, so I just turn the air on low, and the phone is cool to the touch when I get to where I'm going. Don't know what I'll do in winter though...
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Mine starts to overheat when the sun hits it when sitting on my passenger seat in my car. The phone is black, and my case is black. It's going to absorb the suns energy.
mine got really hot to the point where the led would flash green then red....135 or 145 degrees Fahrenheit I forget
I was only charging my phone for maybe 15-20 minutes
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spencelk said:
mine got really hot to the point where the led would flash green then red....135 or 145 degrees Fahrenheit I forget
I was only charging my phone for maybe 15-20 minutes
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Mine does this too and as soon as I unplug it the led turns off. Think it might be the overclock. I had mine clocked at 1.2 and scaled it down to 1.9 due to phone locking up and rebooting. Sometimes I have to wipe cache and davlik cache and reflash firmware and kernel along with all my mods due the phone not going past the splash screen.
Are you running ota froyo? Ive heard alot of people complain about heat issue with it.
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mchunu said:
. I got so frustrated with it that I had to get a replacement and lose my root. Now I'm hoping that stock 2.2 is rooted soon. No problems out of my refurbished EVO so far.
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Guess u didn't want to get yelled at for posting elsewhere about root so you felt the need to slip it in here there was no need to mention as it has nothing to do with OP. Root will happen sooner or later grow up and wait like the others who are waiting no need to toss it in unrelated topics...we are all getting sick and tired of people *****ing about not having root! You probably made your comment up just so you could add your little remark about not having root!
Back on topic.....you guys have to remember there is a 1 ghz processor in our bad ass phones so there will be some heat unlike a computer there is not any fans or big heatsinks that will absorb the heat so with heavy use or game playing its gonna get hot plain and simple its not a defect so nothing to worry about until it starts melting in your hand....then I would say something is wrong...
Yeah, mine is running at 40 C all the time, upwards of 60 if I use the GPS.
You know...I actually hadn't noticed....and I use my Evo a lot. Only time I've really noticed it overheating is when I use WiFi tether but that's expected.
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Mine usually only gets hot when I leave it sitting somewhere without proper ventilation or when I'm riding in the passenger seat and it gets some sun. Otherwise, its pretty uncommon unless I'm really running everything at once. If you have all your radios running at max (downloading large files, checking your location on Google maps, tethering, listening to pandora through bluetooth, all at the same time) then its going to happen no matter what because all the phone's components are pretty powerful and aren't ventilated like computers due to size constraints. I know the kickstand gets hot when the phone warms up, but as long as you don't see the overheat lights, and you don't let it stay hot for extended periods of time, there should be absolutely no danger. I believe there are failsafes if it overheats for too long, but I don't know. My G1 used to get hot a lot, and it was no where near as powerful. Those were the days...
This damn issue was the fact I returned my Evo 4G to Sprint to get it replaced. The Phone was getting so hot to the point the screen was hot towards the bottom of the phone, the back was hot, and the phone kept doing restarts. My phone im Pretty sure had a defect. Not even a week after rooting thru the unrevoked method, I installed Wifi tethering App and **** went down the drain no later then a few days after. The phone began heating up and going thru 15 minute boot loops at a time. The only way to stop it was to pull the battery and let the phone cool down. The phone had to be in optimal Tower range with strong signal strength to avoid this overheating during data sessions. If i was in areas with three bars or lil lower and began running youtube, I could not go thru 4 or 5 youtube videos in a row without the ****er restarting. It was annoying and frustrating. I got a feeling something got ****ed up along the way after rooting and installing Wifi tether. I realized using Wifi tether heated the phone up real damn bad. Something must have got fried or the way the phone processed data after that was just crapping out.
So yeah my issue was way worse becuz of this overheating
I am having the same problem as you drewtorrespr. I rooted a while back using the Toast method and everything ran fine until 2 days ago. Now it seems everyday around mid day my phone heats up and starts rebooting. Not sure if its the ROM ver or hardware defect or rogue program.
How do I flash the original factory ROM back on the phone so I can take to sprint and have them look at it or does it matter. Will they just reload it for me ya think?

3rd day with phone, 2 self resets already

Ok, so what happenned on the 2 instances that this happenned was all of a sudden I lost cellular signal and the phone made a sound and the signal bars switched to a circular sign with the line across it. I put the phone in airplane mode but nothing happenned, within a min phone restarted it self...
The phone is stock. No root or anything like that.
Ps... using the keyboard to type this, and its much easier compard to my old droids kb.
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Weird. Haven't experienced that before myself. I have had it lose signal and display the circle with a line through it but it's not very often and only for a second or two.
Just did it again when I went into pandora. I realized its actually not resetting, but the phone freezes up and everything reloads. Including signal and 3G... the screen shutz off and you can't turn it back on until it reloads
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I had the same problem with mine. I exchanged it for another one and have had no problems since
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Damn. Just when I get it the way I wanted it... Ugh...
What exactly was yours doing big jim?
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Your second thread mention "problems" you have with your phone. Go to a Sprint store.
I agree exchange it urs must be defective. A couple others have hd same issue.
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I had the same problem on my original Epic. I had three problems in total on that phone.
Samsung's crap coding that caused the phone to not sleep. (fixed after 2nd update)
The phone would randomly restart itself
During calls, the screen would freeze while illuminated. The call wasn't interrupted, but aftwards I had to pull the battery.
In the end I had to exchange the phone for another. Only problem was, the new phone had that couple millimeter gap with the slider. Sprint said it wasn't enough for third exchange though.
Man, this sucks... Just when I put all the apps I wanted on it and got it running the way I want it...
I'm gonna give it 1 more week see what happens, then return perhaps for another epic. I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking to the epic though, i really like the camera capabilities of the phone.
I'm actually going to run 4 tests this week
I'm going to leave the phone untouched from 10:00 to 21:00 and note the percentage in battery with juice defender on/off and also noLED on/off, see what happens... to make it even, i'll just leave the phone in my car, and it won't be used except it's usual email checking/texts/missed calls etc.
my droid unused for that period of time usually was around 80%. it was running a custom rom with 1 ghz kernel as well, so same power requirements i'd say. except epic has a bigger battery.
Battery is pretty bad with the Epic but Im not surprised at all about that. I have about 50% right now with heavy texting, a few phone calls, and listening to music. 8hrs unplugged. I think it would make it to 14-15 hrs easy with heavy use.
Phone calls kill the battery the most I believe.
And I'm using Juice Defender.
Mine was dying with heavy texting, some GPS and browsing within 6-7 hours, no phone calls....
I did a little test today.
When I'm at the police academy my phone is in my car from 1000 to 2100. My rooted 1ghz droid would be at 80% by 2100. it'd get it's regular share of texting/emails and all that I couldn't look at until 2100.
I did the same thing today with the Epic, with juice defender, it was at 79%, so pretty much exactly the same...
tomorrow I'll do the same test with JD off and see if it makes a diff
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razorseal said:
Man, this sucks... Just when I put all the apps I wanted on it and got it running the way I want it...
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Use titanium backup and u can restore all ur apps n settings in a jif
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I have just installed Juice Defender (free version) and using it as installed. I'll see if it helps. I have a question about the status of TRAFFIC, it is listed as "Leave Data/WiFi enabled while >50KB/15s", what does this mean? I can guess that JD will leave the Data connection ON, even if it is scheduled OFF, if the phone is sending/receiving data at a rate greater than 50KB/15s. Is this close?
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Weird. Haven't experienced that before myself. I have had it lose signal and display the circle with a line through it but it's not very often and only for a second or two.
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Mine has been doing this every once in awhile. Even in a good signal area, its like the radio randomly decides to reset. I'm currently trying to see if its a software or hardware thing.
Sadly the modem was backported from the samsung moment. It has only partof it power managment system in it it will befixed swhen froyo comes
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I am having the same problem with my phone suddenly. If I have multiple apps open, such as radio, browser, and facebook at the same time, it seems to cause it to reset itself. It's not a full hard reset, but more of a soft one, screen goes black and everything starts up as if the phone was just turned on.
Maybe it's time for a replacement?

Overheating

This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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steve228uk said:
Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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Good point, where can I check the power intake?
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mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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Mine got really hot the first day I used it (27/4)...I was just checking out features and installing a few apps. I rebooted it after the battery was fully charged and it's been fine ever since.
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I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2
No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
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I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2
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vimto25 said:
No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
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And i thought i was alone...
It gets really hot sometimes though, not to the extent of burnt plastic smell but it gets pretty uncomfortable touching around lens at the back.
I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
For example this was a ADB shell top taken while running Cordy downclocked to 800MHz in setcpu. The phone was a tiny bit warm but only by the camera (where the CPU is). Basically, this just shows that if you are playing a game, nothing else is going on so the CPU shouldn't be going up to 1200MHz. And it plays the same as when it isn't underclocked.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.
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I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.
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My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..
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My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..
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Do you have root and Titanium/MyBackup Pro?
If you do, freeze anything that mentions wifi sharing, unless you are going to use wifi hotspot and kies air a lot.
mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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Find the nearest Apple store near you.
The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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Or with some specific games.
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Find the nearest Apple store near you.
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LMAO
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hpsauce37 said:
I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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that's just not true.
Mine gets hot aswell .. it's random sometimes but usualy with playing games etc. I suspect it has something to do with the samsung drivers/software and not our tinkering.
Bugs bugs bugs...
Mine also gets fairly hot, which might be a little uncomfortable - but that's the sacrifice you make when you get such a high powered device in such a small space.
Well,amount of apps/tinkering/etc has nothing to do with the phone getting got UNLESS an installed app in messing something up.I have heard many such cases when a rogue app made the CPU run at 100% in different phones.If that's the case you have to find and remove the app.I'd suggest OS monitor for finding it.Never happened to me though!
What's more,it's normal for it to get more hot than your average phone,as it carries more power under the hood and has nothing to help it dissipate the generated heat,as it's plastic.The Desire HD does a very good job with managing heat and I have never exceeded 40 C,even when gaming with an overclock at 1.8GHz and performance governor.Not saying the DHD is better,but Samsung wouldn't have left something like this if it would damage the phone.So I tend to believe that it's designed to get hot.
Mine has overheated twice.
Both times, when trying to pair itself automatically to my car kit. The phone got really really hot (i noticed it warming my leg in my jeans pocket) and needed the battery pulling out to reset it. When it started back up, the running temp was nearly 50 degrees (in standby, it runs at about 27)
Hasn't done it since though, just keeping my eye on it!

The truth about the common overheating problem and/or battery drain.

Many people have had this issue and i am going to put down the facts here.
The GMS radio in the x10 is not.. great.
It suffers in low signal area's lets say 1 to 2 bars of signal or lets say about -80 to -108dB and lower.
It requires alot more juice from the battery and that causes overheating then after a time chipset death.
This is all based on tests done at home.. i contacted my provider and had a petition signed, they fixed the tower and the issue's with my phone's heat are gone!
Now that i have full signal strength the device has no heat or battery issue's at home.
The other problem you can face is only if you flash firmware with a baseband or a separate baseband.
Many times the baseband may not settle correctly.. this will lead to severe heat, restarts, laggs or even chipset death.
Sometimes the baseband will not even be compatible.
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the third problem that i am adding here and almost forgot about...
Charging while under any or even both of these conditions... can be catastrophic.
As sometimes the modem uses so much energy while the INTERNET is in usage that it cannot hold the charge.
There by cuasing major heat.. and you can guess where that will end up.
Switching to 2G instead of 3G can help ALOT, but in some cases this will end badly
As you will get very slow speeds and that causes downloads to be pathetic slow
and even more prone to bad downloads due to the bad signal quality.
The other case may be that you have the dreaded chipset of DEATH if you get above 45*C it's a good chance you have this horrid chipset.
Have it replaced by SE.
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All of my theories have been properly tested and recreated and fixed to ensure that this info is correct.
Before you call me insane or retarded... test it first!!!
http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/130419#130419 < my theory proven.
Nice find there!
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Nice find there!
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I spent alot of time on this.. one motherboard and a battery later i found the culprits.
OmegaRED^ said:
Many people have had this issue and i am going to put down the facts here.
The GMS radio in the x10 is not.. great.
It suffers in low signal area's lets say 1 to 2 bars of signal or lets say about -80 to -108dB and lower.
It requires alot more juice from the battery and that causes overheating then after a time chipset death.
This is all based on tests done at home.. i contacted my provider and had a petition signed, they fixed the tower and the issue's with my phone's heat are gone!
Now that i have full signal strength the device has no heat or battery issue's at home.
The other problem you can face is only if you flash firmware with a baseband or a separate baseband.
Many times the baseband may not settle correctly.. this will lead to severe heat, restarts, laggs or even chipset death.
All of my theories have been properly tested and recreated and fixed to ensure that this info is correct.
Before you call me insane or retarded... test it first!!!
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You may very well be right on the issue of the GSM radio but..... Some earlier X10's were a lot more susceptible to this issue. My first X10 burned out in about 3 months and ran warm all the time, but in standby the replacement rarely gets warm unless I'm in a fringe area that only has edge coverage.
Anyway you don't know what a hot phone is until you've used the HTC Dream. At times you can almost cook eggs on it
GreatBigDog said:
You may very well be right on the issue of the GSM radio but..... Some earlier X10's were a lot more susceptible to this issue. My first X10 burned out in about 3 months and ran warm all the time, but in standby the replacement rarely gets warm unless I'm in a fringe area that only has edge coverage.
Anyway you don't know what a hot phone is until you've used the HTC Dream. At times you can almost cook eggs on it
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So true, but i have been seeing more and more reports of this issue.
And would like to simply give a solid answer to this.
This was not meant as a complaint, but more as a answer so as to end the scourge of that question once and for all.
A overheat that ends in a damaged device = a serious issue.
No worries here
I bought my x10 in march 2010, about a week or 2 after it become available in my country. And I must say that I never had any problems with it, except what all experienced with 1.6 version (slow, laggy, few small bugs).
Overheating was not an issue, even when I upgraded to 2.1 and recently to TripNMiUI (awesome rom btw). Only time I had problems was when I searched for the right rom flashed the wrong file and almost messed up my device.
The battery was above 40°C and went to 10% in like 3 hours Now about that GMS thing... at work I have almost all the time 2 bars of signal (see attachment, was at work from 5am to 2pm) the red bar is 1, orange 2, yellow 3....
and blue lines you see is when its scanning. Sometimes I lose signal for maybe 1 or 2 hours (and that sux) But I cant show you phone temp (dont know how), but it is almost never above 30°C , except when I play games and I do quite a lot
So after more than a year I still have original battery and lasts for 3 days tops, but usually its around day and a half. And I love my X10
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I bought my x10 in march 2010, about a week or 2 after it become available in my country. And I must say that I never had any problems with it, except what all experienced with 1.6 version (slow, laggy, few small bugs).
Overheating was not an issue, even when I upgraded to 2.1 and recently to TripNMiUI (awesome rom btw). Only time I had problems was when I searched for the right rom flashed the wrong file and almost messed up my device.
The battery was above 40°C and went to 10% in like 3 hours Now about that GMS thing... at work I have almost all the time 2 bars of signal (see attachment, was at work from 5am to 2pm) the red bar is 1, orange 2, yellow 3....
and blue lines you see is when its scanning. Sometimes I lose signal for maybe 1 or 2 hours (and that sux) But I cant show you phone temp (dont know how), but it is almost never above 30°C , except when I play games and I do quite a lot
So after more than a year I still have original battery and lasts for 3 days tops, but usually its around day and a half. And I love my X10
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It depends.. the heat is mostly created from using the GSM radio in these conditions. such as online usage.
Games are not the problem unless they make constant heavy use of the internet.
Also what was the ambient temperature when you are testing?
Well I do play cestos, and was playing pocket legends, both require constant internet connection. But the temperature still didn't go above 35 (was quite warm). You mean rom testing? I mostly try out the nearly finished roms, so never had any issues with rom functionality or temperature. Except when I tried z's alpha kernel. Then it was around 33-38°C. Now that I think about it when I'm flashing new rom it always goes above 30, but after some time drops down.
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Well I do play cestos, and was playing pocket legends, both require constant internet connection. But the temperature still didn't go above 35 (was quite warm). You mean rom testing? I mostly try out the nearly finished roms, so never had any issues with rom functionality or temperature. Except when I tried z's alpha kernel.
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Dude.. i'm taking about the stock 2.1 rom.
WB CM 3.16 v6 did me help alot.
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Now that I think about it when I'm flashing new rom it always goes above 30, but after some time drops down.
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Yeah thats the BB settling in nicely.. sometimes a few restarts or even the "white led of WTF crash" seems to sort it out.
averagely my phone will idle at 30 to 35*C but in usage it can climb above 40*c often.
My old motherboard reached a record High of 57*C just playing "robo defence" or even Hawx...
But here's one more test for you.
Once you need to charge plug it in and start using the internet for about 20 mins in a low signal area and watch that battery drain and the heat go thru the roof.
I never had this issue and i only get 1 to 2 bars only and it never went above 34 which is cool. Dunno about u guys but the only way i can overheat the phone is when playing heavy gunner and listening to music at the same time and the battery heat reaches 38 and it still works 100% with no trouble.
VIPER
viper619 said:
I never had this issue and i only get 1 to 2 bars only and it never went above 34 which is cool. Dunno about u guys but the only way i can overheat the phone is when playing heavy gunner and listening to music at the same time and the battery heat reaches 38 and it still works 100% with no trouble.
VIPER
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Read it properly... i made a few edits just now to the first post.
These days on WB's rom.. i can play quake 2 death match online "with stencil shadows enabled" while listening to dimmu borgir" with no issue's..
but if i was on stock 2.1 or even the old motherboard.. forget about it.
And trust me many do have this issue.
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Before you call me insane or retarded... test it first!!!
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Lol u just reminded me of the good old days when our old physics teacher used to call us " u buys are mentaly retarded, u think urself superman to get electrified, albert eineshtein was an idiot, i'm better than him, u listen to me not to his equations, if not u fail, i know dark matter very well better than nasa, u mentaly retarded creatures, u fools, IDIOTS."
And about the dark matter thingy, he has a very dark black skin so i guess he knows dark matter better.
Am not a discriminant, i'm too slightly black
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My phone overheated only once when i baught it and the temp reached 47. But i had to send it to repairs for the broken usb connecter, maybe they fixed that issue.
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Lol u just reminded me of the good old days when our old physics teacher used to call us " u buys are mentaly retarded, u think urself superman to get electrified, albert eineshtein was an idiot, i'm better than him, u listen to me not to his equations, if not u fail, i know dark matter very well better than nasa, u mentaly retarded creatures, u fools, IDIOTS."
And about the dark matter thingy, he has a very dark black skin so i know he knows dark matter better.
Am not a discriminant, i'm too slightly black
VIPER
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LMAO.. truly a wise and insane man.. ^_^
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Dude.. i'm taking about the stock 2.1 rom.
WB CM 3.16 v6 did me help alot.
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and how many ppl are still running stock 2.1? Everyone who is smart enough will go for custom roms/mods. they are all much better than stock no disrespect, just sayin
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The GMS radio in the x10 is not.. great.
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That's the same conclusion I came to.
When I was using the internet, my battery temp shot up and the phone would restart at 41-42 degrees (stock 1.6)
I got the motherboard replaced under warranty and I've never had a problem with it since
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and how many ppl are still running stock 2.1? Everyone who is smart enough will go for custom roms/mods. they are all much better than stock no disrespect, just sayin
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But it still has a effect on the phone.
But how many of us still flash roms or basebands?
Some versions of the board are way more unstable.. to be honest you have the most stable x10 i have seen out of the 13 i have seen here around me.
Also.. did you do the charging stress test?
It's more than just a single simple issue such as heat, it effects the battery life. "when the radio has to boost the signal"
And to be honest out of all of my phone this is the only one that loves to often drop my calls in bad conditions.
noob question coming: how do u do charging stress test? is this something like you test how long the battery lasts?
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noob question coming: how do u do charging stress test? is this something like you test how long the battery lasts?
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I posted it earlier.. lol. no problem.
Just go to a area with bad signal "low as in 1 to 2 bars", wait till the battery is getting low.
Start charging it and then use the "market or anything that constantly uses the radio and cpu" constantly for about 20mins while charging.
Watch the heat go up and the battery go down.
Also please note that if the ambient heat is very low then your phone should be reading much lower..
Not all of us get snow on this planet, some of us get heat stroke in the winter.
will try at work tomorrow, since i always get bad signal there.

What i have noticed so far with the G4

I`ve had the phone for 3 days now and before upgradin from the Iphone 6 ( my first and last iphone) i was really anxious about the many issues listed in the forums especially the touchscreen problem. When i initially got it i started testing everything and I`m glad to say that everything worked fine (sooo relieved) but when i charged it for the first time it charged very slowly, about 3 hours for a full charge, and it got really hot when using lightly the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot. From all this i belive that LG did e very good job hardware wise but i think like many other conapnies fell a little short on the software department and hopefully it will be fixed in the updates to come.
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the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot.
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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned
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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned
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It seems to fix some issues for alot of user so i think its worth a try for anyone whos experiencing any ☺
Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.
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Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.
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Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.
I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.
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I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.
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Glad to hear that ☺. I actually purchased the wall charger but i guess the performance will be similiar. The one thing i noticed today was the battery life, it seems it is not that great during very light usage but that may be due to the fact that these couple of days the reception has been awful because the carrier im using (Vodafone) is switching to 4G for the first time in my country and ,a little out of topic i know, the download speeds have shocked me, my home connection max download speed is about 400-500kbps and today i witnessed 15-20mbps.
Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.
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Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.
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How much of a charge do you actually gain in the car with the fast charger while using nav and music with screen on?
Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.
I'm using SanDisk class 10 and there's no noticeable difference in my end
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Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.
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It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.
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It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.
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The funny thing is that the the two buying factors for me were the removable back and the micro SD slot, and the only issue I have may or may not be with the micro SD and a slightly loose hinge on the left side of the battery cover but I have experienced that with every phone I had including the g2 and the iPhone 6 without a removable back that had this issue.
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Even my 1+1 is way snappier with blisspop installed. Snappier than s6, snappier than g4.
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kozjegyzo said:
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
Sent from my SGP621 using Tapatalk
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Thankfully I didn't have any hardware issues, I have the Hong Kong version because there's where most of retailers get the phones in my country, I think there's a lot room for improvement software wise and I'm hoping coming updates especially android M, will refine this device even more. I really hoped my I would get the plastic back cover in the box and I'm really jealous of those who did ??
Im starting to notice two more things with the G4, the battery cover (leather) is making a creacking noise when i press it on some areas, and the other one is the with the vibration motor that makes a little bit of noise compared to other phones ive had, has any of you guys experienced this?
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Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.
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I have charged it using my wifes samsung QC. Don't notice much difference over the stock LG charger.
I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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josephcory said:
I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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It's up to you, but as you have seen its much recommended if you have any issues.

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