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Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
AMoosa said:
Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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Most likely.... If the interest is their, someone will build it.
ahh yes.
AMoosa said:
Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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indeed thats the question we are all waiting for the answer to..
lets hope it helps..
An interesting concept, there are those that are asking if Windows Phone7 is going to work with the HTC HD2 as well. Be nice if we could choose either. The HD2 is a lovely piece of kit.
when is the evo actually out? nobody got a whiff of a leaked rom?
got an hd2 myself, would love to get android
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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yes, yoda.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
boomer30 said:
Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
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Joke you did get, much funny it was.
Complete my goal is
May the force be with you
I'm not so sure about this....
With the Evo not coming to UK waters and no other screen size planned this side of the pond the ROM on the HD2 may well be the only answer.
However, lets not forget.. the Evo has a lot inside which will be different to the HD2 and these short comings won't make the HD2 an Evo in disguise.
It may end up being a sheep in wolf's clothing.
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
Aridon said:
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
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More like, if the right person wants it.
same processor ... different board... no go
need hlevel eprom acess ... not posible software wise
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
Lobo Lansky said:
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
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they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
blazing4phoenix said:
they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
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No its android dualbooted
http://www.neverknowtech.com/home/2010/4/25/how-to-put-android-on-your-iphone-with-video.html
XAnimal said:
No its android dualbooted
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Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
Scott Spillers said:
Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
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Tell that to Winterboard and AndroidLock. But yes, theming isn't supported natively.
However the iPhone port of Android is an actual native port, loaded using OpeniBoot, a custom "iBoot"-style bootloader. And you thought the HTCSPL system was tricky...
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johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Belated, but May the Fourth be with you.
I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
Mecha2142 said:
I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
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Since i've got android on my Sprint Vogue, i'd say it's possible if the right people want it to happen.
Since the G2 and the Desire Z are "technically" the same Phone...One major difference will be the bands.
Therefore, will it be possible, when Cyanogen creates a ROM for the G2, to use it on the Desire Z? Or will it not work because of the different bands?
N1 and desire are closer in hardware than the Z and the G2, but they still require specific roms.
So......no.
JCopernicus said:
N1 and desire are closer in hardware than the Z and the G2, but they still require specific roms.
So......no.
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Looks like Cyanogen won't support the Desire Z then?
Bummer
If they get their hands on one I'm sure they will.
JCopernicus said:
N1 and desire are closer in hardware than the Z and the G2, but they still require specific roms.
So......no.
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Hell no they arent the Z and G2 are closer, only ROM and radio for these two.
navillos said:
Hell no they arent the Z and G2 are closer, only ROM and radio for these two.
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the g2 also has 4 gigs of internal memory (not ram)
vs the desire z's 1.5
it should be a quick cut and paste for a dev
JCopernicus said:
N1 and desire are closer in hardware than the Z and the G2, but they still require specific roms.
So......no.
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What?
AFAIK, memory capacity and radio aside, they have the same internals.
I am not even sure a separate ROM would have to be written. Would the radios have different drivers?
Jorsher said:
What?
AFAIK, memory capacity and radio aside, they have the same internals.
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Right. That's the only difference.
Anomaly said:
I am not even sure a separate ROM would have to be written. Would the radios have different drivers?
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Well, I think so...Because it's the same with the Motorola Droid and Motorola Milestone. Same device, only difference is the radio. And yet the ROMs for the droid will not work on the Milestone without modifying the drivers for the radio, etc...
Bavilo said:
Well, I think so...Because it's the same with the Motorola Droid and Motorola Milestone. Same device, only difference is the radio. And yet the ROMs for the droid will not work on the Milestone without modifying the drivers for the radio, etc...
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well thats because CDMA roms won't work on GSM phons and visa versa, but since the Desire Z and G2 are both GSM they will work together....... The only thing i'm hoping for is that HSPA+ doesn't end up like Wimax where no custom roms can run it =(
navillos said:
Hell no they arent the Z and G2 are closer, only ROM and radio for these two.
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g2/Z differences
Rom/ram/internalstorage/radio
n1/desire differences
rom/ram/touchkeys
Like I said n1/desire have more in common than the z/g2, it's not a huge difference, but they are closer siblings.
master.peterm said:
The only thing i'm hoping for is that HSPA+ doesn't end up like Wimax where no custom roms can run it =(
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pretty sure HSPA+ isn't going to stop custom roms. even then we haz cyanogen to help us hack it
the G2 and the Z are the same phone, only difference is the ROM space(internal storage) and radio, they have the SAME RAM and other internals so as already stated they should work almost interchangeably but they may not, the only way we will know for sure is to get shipped ROM for both and flash to the other device(after root of course) since we already have the shipped build for the G2 and the ENG build for the G2 then we should be able to get root within a reasonable amount of time.
and since cyanogen is getting the phone we can expect CM development almost immediately
JCopernicus said:
g2/Z differences
Rom/ram/internalstorage/radio
n1/desire differences
rom/ram/touchkeys
Like I said n1/desire have more in common than the z/g2, it's not a huge difference, but they are closer siblings.
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1. Rom shouldn't even matter...for custom ROMs anyway.
2. Ram is the same. Check HTC.com they both have 512mb.
3. Internal Storage == ROM...
So that really only leaves the radio which is different.
P.S.
Yes, the Phones are both GSM, but they still have different bands, which equals a completely different radio.
For Instance, a ROM for the Motorola Milestone from Brazil with the bands: 850 / 1900 / 2100
will not work on a Motorola Milestone from Germany with the bands: 900 / 2100...
Well...It will work...problem is that you won't have 3G
so is gunna end up kinda like how magic phones are 32a and 32b, or is gunna be like how dream roms work on magic phones............. ugh who cares there'll be more development for the g2 anyway... sorry desire z owners! =)
oh and how are you guys all senior members me want me want!!
master.peterm said:
so is gunna end up kinda like how magic phones are 32a and 32b, or is gunna be like how dream roms work on magic phones............. ugh who cares there'll be more development for the g2 anyway... sorry desire z owners! =)
oh and how are you guys all senior members me want me want!!
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Well...whatever changes Cyanogen does to his sources, they could easily be ported anyways by just replacing the correct libraries for the radio, etc.
I doubt it will be a problem.
does any one know the /system size of the g2?
and i wouldnt worry to much about HSPA+ the coverage for it isnt that good right now, so if there is any bugs with roms and hspa+ it will be fixed by the time hspa+ is up in your area.
And i dont know about the differences in the 2 phones. but i believe that it is something with the radio because that controls so much of the phone and the rom is more or less the software
i have HSPA+ in my area so i certainly hope that we can still use it with custom ROMs. cannot wait to get this phone
Heh.
3. Internal Storage == ROM
Believe me, if internal storage was really Read Only Memory people would be quite unhappy.
T-Mobile myTouch 4G aka HTC Glacier Shipped ROM Leaked
http://pocketnow.com/android/t-mobile-mytouch-4g-aka-htc-glacier-shipped-rom-leaked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qRRDwj14S8&feature=player_embedded
My question is can we get a build for the hd2? Or are there still more things needed?
Could someone please explain to me why every time any phone with Android is released, that there are drones of people demanding developers who've put hours and hours on end of their own personal time into programming fixing and tweaking the current HD2 Android builds for no personal gain whatsoever, to devote more time and energy porting over a build that has almost no change in OS whatsoever?
I'd understand if a new phone came out with Android 2.3 or something, but all the phones being released lately aren't that much different from each other....
In the OP's defense he didn't demand anything he simply asked if it was possible and what it would take.. but your right about all the new phones OS being pretty similar.. that being said there is almost always something new in the OS when tmo drops a new android phone.. new mytouch is supposed to have a uma similar feature.. I guess we will see.
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friedsushi87 said:
could someone please explain to me why every time any phone with android is released, that there are drones of people demanding developers who've put hours and hours on end of their own personal time into programming fixing and tweaking the current hd2 android builds for no personal gain whatsoever, to devote more time and energy porting over a build that has almost no change in os whatsoever?
I'd understand if a new phone came out with android 2.3 or something, but all the phones being released lately aren't that much different from each other....
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first tmobile 2.2 sense rom, or should i say espresso. There is definitely not espresso rom on hd2(loaded with tmobile stuff)...so please dismiss your self.
dapoharoun said:
first tmobile 2.2 sense rom, or should i say espresso. There is definitely not espresso rom on hd2(loaded with tmobile stuff)...so please dismiss your self.
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This I did not know.. huh, learned something new today!!
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dapoharoun said:
first tmobile 2.2 sense rom, or should i say espresso. There is definitely not espresso rom on hd2(loaded with tmobile stuff)...so please dismiss your self.
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Okay then, in that case, I'd be interested in a port.
A large majority of people both in Europe and United States use T-Mobile.
What are the benefits?
TMOBILE DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE MYTOUCH SLIDE UI "ESPRESSO" BUT ITS RUNNING ANDROID 2.1. AND THE FUNNY THING IS THAT, THE UI ON THE MYTOUCH SLIDE HAD SKINS, LANDSCAPE SENSE, AND MULTITASKING IN THE NOTIFICATIONS WAY BEFORE THE "DESIRE HD" AND "DESIRE Z".
ALOT OF GOODIES IN THE PREVIOUS MYTOUCH (CAN APPLY LOCK WALLPAPER DIFFERENT FROM HOME WALLPAPER, THEMES, LANDSCAPE SENSE, MY FAVES GALLERY, MODE SWITCH BASE ON TIME OR LOCATION, GENIUS APP, APP PACK AND MORE). SO I AM VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THIS 2.2 VERSION OF THE MYTOUCH ROM PACKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RmjJnsoCpM
Thank you for the editing
I sat thru first 3 of 13 mins, that's so boring, just flipped back and forth desktop for 3 freaking mins.
justwonder said:
thank you for the editing
i sat thru first 3 of 13 mins, that's so boring, just flipped back and forth desktop for 3 freaking mins.
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lol i had to watch the whole thing for u guys
myTouch include: Android 2.2 3.8″ WVGA display 1GHz Qualcomm MSM8255 processor 5-megapixel camera autofocus LED flash 720p HD recording front-facing camera 3.5 mm audiojack Wifi 802.11 b/g/n.
Here are the specs. Look pretty familiar =)
Clom801 said:
myTouch include: Android 2.2 3.8″ WVGA display 1GHz Qualcomm MSM8255 processor 5-megapixel camera autofocus LED flash 720p HD recording front-facing camera 3.5 mm audiojack Wifi 802.11 b/g/n.
Here are the specs. Look pretty familiar =)
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"similar" but not identical. For example, the processor (QSD8250 vs MSM8255) is different... Chipset might be different. radio manufacturer might be different, camera drivers mightbe different, etc etc etc.
But hey, they managed to plug in Desire Z and HD ROMs... Who knows!
If you can really use it
as UMA - that would be lovely.. the signal at my house sux and i need uma for android. That is the main reason that i want this..if possible ofcourse
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Anyone got a mirror?
I'm actually extremely interested to see this get ported to the HD2. As a T-Mobile USA customer, I think that this ROM would more than likely get me exactly where I wanna be with this phone...
Hope someone decides to pick up on this... If not, oh well...
whosdaman said:
anyone got a mirror?
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where u able to download it?
dapoharoun said:
where u able to download it?
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Its in the development section under htc glacier system dump, pack21 has just posted a mega upload link
Clom801 said:
Its in the development section under htc glacier system dump, pack21 has just posted a mega upload link
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nice! good to see the topic in that section.
FriedSushi87 said:
Could someone please explain to me why every time any phone with Android is released, that there are drones of people demanding developers who've put hours and hours on end of their own personal time into programming fixing and tweaking the current HD2 Android builds for no personal gain whatsoever, to devote more time and energy porting over a build that has almost no change in OS whatsoever?
I'd understand if a new phone came out with Android 2.3 or something, but all the phones being released lately aren't that much different from each other....
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Completely agree... Whoever initiates this type of request should actually donate some money first, recommend others to do the same and then get someone interested to make a build if they want it... that way, build maker makes some $$$ and everyone is happy... even grannies don't give it for free...
Hi guys, a while back I heard that TeamGalaxySense were working on a port of HTC Sense to our Fascinate. But i havent heard anything since then. Ive seen on the Captivate and Vibrant forums and they have a ROM already made. Im wondering if it is possible to port the Capitvate Sense ROM to the fascinate.
PS:I used to port ROMS from the HTC Hero to the Droid Eris a year ago, it was possible since they had the same processors and other internal hardware.
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Hi guys, a while back I heard that TeamGalaxySense were working on a port of HTC Sense to our Fascinate. But i havent heard anything since then. Ive seen on the Captivate and Vibrant forums and they have a ROM already made. Im wondering if it is possible to port the Capitvate Sense ROM to the fascinate.
PS:I used to port ROMS from the HTC Hero to the Droid Eris a year ago, it was possible since they had the same processors and other internal hardware.
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no sense rom will every be functional enough on a samsung (or moto, or etc) phone to use for regular every day usage....the nexus s has one that has 1x data and wifi...but 3g never seems to be possible and the bugs are extremely problematic
the amount of effort involved vs reward seems prohibitive
HTC to HTC will always work for the most part, HTC to anything else will never be fully working.
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What they said.
adrynalyne said:
What they said.
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Oh okay. Cool.
There's a very nice theme for UKB which approximates sense rather nicely: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994561
What everyone else said, but maybe this will illustrate how hard (impossible) it is: people have been trying to port Sense to the original Droid (a fully unlocked, fully AOSP phone, so as clean a slate as you can get) since it came out in October 2009.
To this day, there's never been a fully functional port.
Falcyn said:
What everyone else said, but maybe this will illustrate how hard (impossible) it is: people have been trying to port Sense to the original Droid (a fully unlocked, fully AOSP phone, so as clean a slate as you can get) since it came out in October 2009.
To this day, there's never been a fully functional port.
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Nope, You're Wrong, Sense is fully functional on the Nexus One and the HD2. I'm impressed especially for the HD2 because it ran WinMo and it has a fully working sense build.
gokuman56 said:
Nope, You're Wrong, Sense is fully functional on the Nexus One and the HD2. I'm impressed especially for the HD2 because it ran WinMo and it has a fully working sense build.
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Ok but those are both htc phones so it isn't all THAT surprising. Htc phones generally share a lot of the same (or similar) hardware.
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swish. (nothing but net)
good day.
gokuman56 said:
Nope, You're Wrong, Sense is fully functional on the Nexus One and the HD2. I'm impressed especially for the HD2 because it ran WinMo and it has a fully working sense build.
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sneakysolidbake said:
Ok but those are both htc phones so it isn't all THAT surprising. Htc phones generally share a lot of the same (or similar) hardware.
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chopper the dog said:
swish. (nothing but net)
good day.
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fair enough, sense has never been ported (fully/successfully) to a NON htc phone
also u want sense, its easy to buy a phone w/ it
Hi,
Please someone can port this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275108
There is already a version for CDMA hero here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284083
Thanks in advance
well... you mean something like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283338
i'll look into it once a more stable port of the rom is completed
We don't have Devs as compared to Cdma Hero and Active devs of hero are still behind 2.1.
hirencj said:
We don't have Devs as compared to Cdma Hero and Active devs of hero are still behind 2.1.
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because after a year of 2.2 and half a year of 2.3 the community here has come to grips with the fact that 2.3 roms all have some kind of fundamental speed issue and 2.2 roms here have been done to death and in many cases still have some issues (gps in cm roms, hardware in 2.2 sense roms).
2.1 is the fastest rom on the hero and has the most fully working hardware.
so they're focusing on making the phone quick and useful rather than doing fancy things too slowly.
I too love the newer sense and gb roms, but always end up going back to the fastest roms (Vanilla Eclair mostly, some 2.1 sense roms also) for daily use.
i did already port it to hero gsm.
but it is based on the cdma you will get that it is not connected to a network.
but you can recieve call's and wifi is working, camera is working. if you turn on gps then wifi will schutdown.
i will not release this version , i had some spare time left this weekend.
i used LV kernel and if the kernel is warm is runs better then the release that is posted for the gsm.
only if i know how to port a cdma rom to gsm
download link ( multiupload ):
http://www.multiupload.com/T13BZSLU02
arnoslag said:
i did already port it to hero gsm.
but it is based on the cdma you will get that it is not connected to a network.
but you can recieve call's and wifi is working, camera is working. if you turn on gps then wifi will schutdown.
i will not release this version , i had some spare time left this weekend.
i used LV kernel and if the kernel is warm is runs better then the release that is posted for the gsm.
only if i know how to port a cdma rom to gsm
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http://www.multiupload.com/T13BZSLU02
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is it smooth?
I runs better then gsm release.
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arnoslag said:
I runs better then gsm release.
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Thank god, arnoslag, ur CDMA --> Hero port is really good. works far more smoother than Hintay Zero 0.12... this rom really should be stickied! (and should have GSM network too).
Ill c if I can look into ur build tomorrow
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bharat_goku said:
Ill c if I can look into ur build tomorrow
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can't wait! but unfortunately, will be out to other state for 2 days, =.="
bharat_goku said:
Ill c if I can look into ur build tomorrow
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Do it do it!!! Waiting Waiting...