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Froyo w/ Sense

We already have Froyo (CM6) but not with Sense.
Desire is getting 2.2 Froyo with Sense Update this weekend.
Also Evo is getting it Ago. 3 but that one cannot be ported or I'm wrong?
It can be ported to Hero?

rockypr said:
We already have Froyo (CM6) but not with Sense.
Desire is getting 2.2 Froyo with Sense Update this weekend.
Also Evo is getting it Ago. 3 but that one cannot be ported or I'm wrong?
It can be ported to Hero?
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possibly? we only have a small handful of devs, so im not sure if anyone will do it? personally i don't like sense, i just want a stable froyo rom.

Use paid LauncherPro and you'll get all your "Sense" widgets

DirtyShroomz said:
Use paid LauncherPro and you'll get all your "Sense" widgets
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Is not about Widgets, I like more Sense Apps than the Vanilla.

rockypr said:
Is not about Widgets, I like more Sense Apps than the Vanilla.
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Which Sense apps? There are great replacements for almost if not all of them.

I loved Sense and would not flash an AOSP Rom, but once they released the first build of CM6 back in June I flashed it and kept it on my phone for 3 weeks. I installed launcher pro and beautiful widgets along with some other apps that I thought were decent like extended control widget. I got sense deprived and flashed a sense rom back on, but found myself reinstalling launcher pro because I like dock a lot more than Sense. And people can say that they can make a ROM with Sense just as fast as froyo are lying. I tried everything I could to get it as fast as froyo but was unable too. I have DC running right now, because I am working on porting something over from the EVO. Once everything is working on CM6 I will flash again.
The only thing that may be good is to get the HTC framework working with froyo and then you can still use the HTC apps, but other than that you can find alternative widgets that are close to or better than the HTC widgets

BrandoKC said:
Which Sense apps? There are great replacements for almost if not all of them.
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IMHO, the only one Not replaceable is the VVM. (and no, GoogVoice is not a great alternative/just as good, frankly. the number forwarding shell game, redundant emails, txtx, etc, annoying. and simply not as responsive or "easy to use") I hate to say it, but it was this feature that sold me on this phone. of course since I have found other reasons to love it.
everything else can be replaced easy. (in fact, msg me w/ your email, I can send a pack...)
personally not using Froyo just yet, looking forward to a Sense port as well... but I can wait.

Sorry guys but the topic here is not if you like Sense or Not...
The Topic is....
If it is possible to Port HTC Desire Froyo with Sense that is going to be released this weekend????
It can be ported to Hero?

rockypr said:
Sorry guys but the topic here is not if you like Sense or Not...
The Topic is....
If it is possible to Port HTC Desire Froyo with Sense that is going to be released this weekend????
It can be ported to Hero?
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golly, sorry to have totally sent your thread into offtopic there, buddy, but to answer your question I think:
well, it really depends on what phone its being released for... as far as I know, whats coming out is for the EVO, Desire, etc... and as darchstar said in this thread:
darchstar said:
u guys r such n00bz . we can't port an htc evo rom cuz its optimized to run on snapdragon armv7 arch. it will never boot with those libs. our hopes for a 2.2 sense rom would be a froyo legend rom, or a froyo espresso rom, as those both have libs optimized for armv61/armv5te
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and the desire also runs the snapdragon, so... no.

kingdazy said:
golly, sorry to have totally sent your thread into offtopic there, buddy, but to answer your question I think:
well, it really depends on what phone its being released for... as far as I know, whats coming out is for the EVO, Desire, etc... and as darchstar said in this thread:
and the desire also runs the snapdragon, so... no.
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Ok Thanks!

No porting the desire is not worth while. The legend will be the one I and several other dev's are waiting for this will get ported to the hero.
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Froyo for Incredible leaked

Hope I don't get flamed for posting about the Incredible here but I figured the devs might be able to port from it.
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Incredible/

ericlmccormick said:
Hope I don't get flamed for posting about the Incredible here but I figured the devs might be able to port from it.
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Incredible/
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I doubt it, because even though the OS is the same, the Incredible uses different hardware, is not labeled desirec, and has a different resolution then the Eris.

ericlmccormick said:
Hope I don't get flamed for posting about the Incredible here but I figured the devs might be able to port from it.
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Incredible/
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Thanks anyway, if it's true they can't use it.

Weren't the current Froyo ROMs ported from the Nexus? That's certainly no more similar to the Eris.
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I know that the hardware is different but so is every other device running Froyo (sanctioned from the manufacturer) but it has been adapted to work on the Eris. If I'm not mistaken though, this is the first Froyo ROM with sense and even though I don't like sense, it doesn't mean others don't want a sense based froyo rom.

Yes a sense based froyo rom would be pretty dang cool

Agreed!
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It would be sweet that's why I bought my Eris for sense.

I'd be all over a Sense ROM with all the Sense widgets

I agree a froyo port would be very awesome.
If I understand correctly this is the state of froyo for the eris:
All the devices that have gotten froyo + sense have hdpi screen resolutions (http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html) while the eris has an mdpi screen resolution. To port you would have to scale down all the images (lots of them), plus some other tweaks to be able to run it on the eris. Last I read several people have tried to port it (I know Framework43 was trying to port it, and I think koas said he might try to port it). Right now it would be very hard to port, and we *most likely* will not get it until an mdpi device (such as the HTC Legend) gets froyo + sense.

From what I understand this should be beneficial for us getting full on Flash 10.1
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homewmt said:
I agree a froyo port would be very awesome.
If I understand correctly this is the state of froyo for the eris:
All the devices that have gotten froyo + sense have hdpi screen resolutions (http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html) while the eris has an mdpi screen resolution. To port you would have to scale down all the images (lots of them), plus some other tweaks to be able to run it on the eris. Last I read several people have tried to port it (I know Framework43 was trying to port it, and I think koas said he might try to port it). Right now it would be very hard to port, and we *most likely* will not get it until an mdpi device (such as the HTC Legend) gets froyo + sense.
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Is the Legend on schedule to get Froyo? Or is it like the Eris where it's not been announced either way?

Well at least its got to make it a little easier to get flash on the Eris with Froyo. Even without the rest of Sense, I'd be ecstatic to see flash or even flash lite on Froyo.
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Thanks for the interesting info, homewmt!

I don't think a Froyo Sense ROM would make it easier to get full Flash on the Eris. The fact of the matter is that Flash was written for the ARMv7 instruction set, and we run ARMv6.
The only reason it's been hacked into Sense based ROMs at all is because of Flash-lite. I don't even think Flash-lite will be a part of Froyo Sense deployments since manufacturers only seem concerned about ARMv7 devices getting the update, which all support official Flash.
I could be wrong about all of that, but I call 'em as I see 'em.
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I'm pretty sure Flash-lite just provided a way for the browser to call up Flash 10.1 after it was installed. The version of flash I use on eclair is still intended for only Arm7 and above. It runs slow on the Eris because it's Arm6, but it does run. Then again, maybe that's just my eternal optimism showing since I like everything else about Froyo better.
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carguy88 said:
I'm pretty sure Flash-lite just provided a way for the browser to call up Flash 10.1 after it was installed. The version of flash I use on eclair is still intended for only Arm7 and above. It runs slow on the Eris because it's Arm6, but it does run. Then again, maybe that's just my eternal optimism showing since I like everything else about Froyo better.
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Probably the optimism thing.
Personally, I'm not all that jazzed about Flash. It's not REALLY a feature I ever had, so I haven't had a chance to miss it.
That's not to say that I wouldn't be stoked if someone was able to port it to ARMv6, because I would, but at this point, I don't really see it as a "feature" of Froyo.

Kaos and I are trying to port it. We have hit a roadblock for now, but we'll get it eventually.

timmywa said:
Is the Legend on schedule to get Froyo? Or is it like the Eris where it's not been announced either way?
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Yes, it is. This has been confirmed for "Q3." If you Google, you'll see rumors pointing toward an October roll-out.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/

[Q] HTC Wildfire S

I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours.
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread.
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
I hope someone really know something about it.

guus_1995 said:
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
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It is not nearly the same. It is totally different. And, to get the new Sense, the code has to be released by HTC. Till that, there wont be a GB Sense Enabled ROM for the Wildfire.
Also, I am pretty sure with the release of the S, HTC will not conveniently forget the original Wildfire and probably not release any updates for it. Its basically an EOL Product now. Its the way the industry works.

After some monthes on the market every mobile phone is EOL. You are right!
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If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.

Just for the new sense
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If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
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I know but I want the new sense xD

Its more like the aria or gratia (what is the point of that - considering the wildfire s is better) or legend or salsa than the wildfire (they are all the same phone in a different box with a different rom)
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CM 7
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic

guus_1995 said:
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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sorry but, you'll not get much out of them! Just a generalised response.

guus_1995 said:
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire. -No, not the same hardware
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours. -HVGA vs QVGA.... lots of resizing and xml, program modifying. And devs are not really interested
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread. - Not really with a spray of impossible
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
-I have not seen Sense 3.0 on a QVGA device, so low porting chances.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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blabla bla 10 chars

soory for this crappy thread
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.

It is possible to get the Gingerbread update but no way it would get the new Sense.

guus_1995 said:
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!

why not
djdevine2 said:
No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?

Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
guus_1995 said:
Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
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ok
djdevine2 said:
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
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that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch

guus_1995 said:
that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!

djdevine2 said:
Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Ok .
thank you anyway

guus_1995 said:
Ok .
thank you anyway
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As djdevine2 stated above, porting Sense would be very hard or even impossible. Sense is like a bug that crawls really deep inside the Android OS. Eliminating is it hard, I imagine introducing it would be also very, very hard.
And not to mention the possible Legal issues that could appear

maybe there is hope
It has also been rumored that the HTC Wildfire will receive the recently released 2.3 Gingerbread update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
This is just a rumor, but there is still hope.

Doesn't look so. If you look at the citation on that particular line, and, read that thread in another forum, there is nothing there to state that HTC has said anything about 2.3 on Wildfire. It is simply a speculative thread, and, points to CM7 for 2.3 on Wildfire.
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson), but the smartphone dev community doesn't work that slowly. The guys who build custom ROMs just for the sheer pride of it have already begun work on delivering Gingerbread to owners of HTC's EVO 4G, Droid Eris, and Wildfire."

[Q]HTC Flyer ported to Nook Color?

What do you guys think the odds are for getting the 2.3 HTC Sense OS from the Flyer to work on the Nook?

PMDColeslaw said:
What do you guys think the odds are for getting the 2.3 HTC Sense OS from the Flyer to work on the Nook?
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Nope. The same reason why its not possible to have a sense rom on a non-htc phone, they hacks up the coding so much from what I've heard, its nearly impossible (or very very hard). I wanted Sense on my phone and thats the answer they gave me.

DiscoPh3v3r said:
Nope. The same reason why its not possible to have a sense rom on a non-htc phone, they hacks up the coding so much from what I've heard, its nearly impossible (or very very hard). I wanted Sense on my phone and thats the answer they gave me.
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There actually is Sense on a non-HTC phone - they have gotten Sense to work on the Nexus S (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034130&highlight=sense).

Please do...I will love to see it...

bucketheadmn said:
There actually is Sense on a non-HTC phone - they have gotten Sense to work on the Nexus S (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034130&highlight=sense).
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That port is being done by a very good friend of mine, too. (real life friend)
The funny thing is that the hardest parts of the port so far are the radio interfaces (like 3G which the Nook DOESN'T have.)
I'm watching Craigslist for a cheap Nook. If I can find one, maybe I'll try my hand at porting it. (Right now, with my full time work schedule and my school schedule, it would be hard to spend too much time on this, if it ever happens, but I wouldn't mind getting it done...) Now the biggest issue is simply: Getting one for cheap. (Like sub $180 or less (preferably $150 or less...))

DesireHD 2.3 leak!!!

Can we do something with this?
http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/static/1429008812011329111555836/

Nice find! I'm sure the devs will be able to whip something up with this
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mrbracht said:
Nice find! I'm sure the devs will be able to whip something up with this
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yeah and if not we have that sense 3.0 leak to look forward to lol

definatly just spent like 15 minutes trying to figure out how to download the RUU from that chinese upload site... no dice... any direct link to DL you can PM me im interested i wanna see if i can get this running

still, we arent going to have data.
until we get cm ril - and maybe not even then - "ports" to the tbolt are going to be totally worthless.
thats why i havent been too concerned with the sense 3.0 ports. they are cool to play with, but no chance of being a daily driver for a while.

r2DoesInc said:
still, we arent going to have data.
until we get cm ril - and maybe not even then - "ports" to the tbolt are going to be totally worthless.
thats why i havent been too concerned with the sense 3.0 ports. they are cool to play with, but no chance of being a daily driver for a while.
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this is my first cdma android device like i said ive been out since we were porting doughnut rosie to dream boards..... to google i go
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scratch porting your right.... mannn cdma android is no fun
maybe not a full port but like porting pieces but then and again in essence from what im seeing this is what were running except on 2.3 android

Zarboz said:
this is my first cdma android device like i said ive been out since we were porting doughnut rosie to dream boards..... to google i go
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scratch porting your right.... mannn cdma android is no fun
maybe not a full port but like porting pieces but then and again in essence from what im seeing this is what were running except on 2.3 android
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nothing is wrong with it being cdma.
the problem is it being lte.

r2DoesInc said:
nothing is wrong with it being cdma.
the problem is it being lte.
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Radio is over rated anyway it's only a matter of time before we get a 2.3 leak
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Radio is over rated anyway it's only a matter of time before we get a 2.3 leak
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i suspect we will get it here in the next few weeks. sense 3.0, i dont think we will ever get though since the tbolt shipped with sense 2.1. the libs from the gingersense leak will help solve these egl issues we have with the sensation and doubleshot ports, but until we start seeing ore lte capable phones, i dont think we will see any feasible ports for the tbolt.
this is just speculation, i dont have any inside info on it, but im willing to bet thats how it all plays out

r2DoesInc said:
i suspect we will get it here in the next few weeks. sense 3.0, i dont think we will ever get though since the tbolt shipped with sense 2.1. the libs from the gingersense leak will help solve these egl issues we have with the sensation and doubleshot ports, but until we start seeing ore lte capable phones, i dont think we will see any feasible ports for the tbolt.
this is just speculation, i dont have any inside info on it, but im willing to bet thats how it all plays out
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nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.

Nikolai2.1 said:
nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.
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my bad
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i much enjoyed the HD sense interface i had when owning the HD2 ... and the only reason i got a t-bolt is to have an NATIVE NAND running android.... i wondered why this sense was missing some stuff i wanna port HTC hub and some of the 2.1 tweaks...... the thunderbolts interface although faster than cmylxgo's desire hd port on hd. it didnt have as many features.....
since we are on 2.2.1 we need a new sense.... haha or until we get that RIL lib set from a new cm build.... thats pretty depressing
once again forgive me if i seem n00bish in this statement but theoretically couldn't we port the rosie and corresponding framework to our 2.2.1 devices?
obviously not from this dump as it is 2.3

Zarboz said:
i much enjoyed the HD sense interface i had when owning the HD2 ... and the only reason i got a t-bolt is to have an NATIVE NAND running android.... i wondered why this sense was missing some stuff i wanna port HTC hub and some of the 2.1 tweaks...... the thunderbolts interface although faster than cmylxgo's desire hd port on hd. it didnt have as many features.....
since we are on 2.2.1 we need a new sense.... haha or until we get that RIL lib set from a new cm build.... thats pretty depressing
once again forgive me if i seem n00bish in this statement but theoretically couldn't we port the rosie and corresponding framework to our 2.2.1 devices?
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it could happen. skyraider is famous for backporting lots of sense 2.1 and 2.0 features to the incredible.
Im not really a sense guy, i <3 aosp, but maybe when things begin to settle down for me a bit i can see what i can do.
virus may also be someone to talk to, i know he does a whole lot of sense work.

r2DoesInc said:
it could happen. skyraider is famous for backporting lots of sense 2.1 and 2.0 features to the incredible.
Im not really a sense guy, i <3 aosp, but maybe when things begin to settle down for me a bit i can see what i can do.
virus may also be someone to talk to, i know he does a whole lot of sense work.
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just tried to do a quick n dirty hack n slash port... bootloop... man this new android versions is something im gunna need to read about

Nikolai2.1 said:
nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.
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Htc said they were not going to upgrade any of the current phones to 3.0 cause they can't "handle" it but to me just sounds like they are just too lazy to update it.
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miketoasty said:
Htc said they were not going to upgrade any of the current phones to 3.0 cause they can't "handle" it but to me just sounds like they are just too lazy to update it.
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Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Its a marketing thing.
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Its a marketing thing.
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right. why update when they already set the precedent of sticking with the same version till the phone goes EOL? more money for them,
"Oh you just got the brand new Thunderbolt with the CRAZY powerful new snapdragon and 4g? Cool. Running Sense 2.0 right? Nice. New phone coming out next week with the same specs but Sense 3.0. You gonna buy it?"
And since we will never be updated, of course people will go out and buy it. Its the same as the carriers and Google not updating Android versions on older phones, only HTC is even more dickish about it.

can anyone tell me how to download this friggin dump..... i dont understand chinese... ive tried everything on that darn site...

r2DoesInc said:
right. why update when they already set the precedent of sticking with the same version till the phone goes EOL? more money for them,
"Oh you just got the brand new Thunderbolt with the CRAZY powerful new snapdragon and 4g? Cool. Running Sense 2.0 right? Nice. New phone coming out next week with the same specs but Sense 3.0. You gonna buy it?"
And since we will never be updated, of course people will go out and buy it. Its the same as the carriers and Google not updating Android versions on older phones, only HTC is even more dickish about it.
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Well that's why we have you
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I will look at porting this also. I wonder if I can hack something together like I did with miui.