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just a view about Eris Leak!

Hi Xda .. hope every one is fine enjoying their PRIVATE lives!
I was thinking that the eris leak is a setup plan by htc they gave the leak so that EXPERT developers here at xda could tweak the update make it awesome do all the work and then htc download it from here and modify a little with branding and themes and announce it officially!

htb2050 said:
Hi Xda .. hope every one is fine enjoying their PRIVATE lives!
I was thinking that the eris leak is a setup plan by htc they gave the leak so that EXPERT developers here at xda could tweak the update make it awesome do all the work and then htc download it from here and modify a little with branding and themes and announce it officially!
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I doubt they are using it for the devs here to finish
They are probably using it for us to "beta test"
Or it could be a real leak with nothing to do with htc.

Lol.. if that were to be true.. HTC would have leaked it when 2.1 was released..

htb2050 said:
Hi Xda .. hope every one is fine enjoying their PRIVATE lives!
I was thinking that the eris leak is a setup plan by htc they gave the leak so that EXPERT developers here at xda could tweak the update make it awesome do all the work and then htc download it from here and modify a little with branding and themes and announce it officially!
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I LOL'd because it's believable, though I doubt actually true.
Imagine if the official update came out rooted with a2sd enabled and powered by the teknologist kernel!

TheAshMan said:
I LOL'd because it's believable, though I doubt actually true.
Imagine if the official update came out rooted with a2sd enabled and powered by the teknologist kernel!
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for that to happen they'd need to release the kernel sources first...
@topic: if it was true, it wouldn't change anything... we can not keep htc from spying here... but it would be really funny if someone found a prove that they used stuff from here

kendong2 said:
for that to happen they'd need to release the kernel sources first...
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I wasn't being serious...

It would be quite funny if they did. I'm sure they will keep an eye over here, as they seem to patch any root exploits we use, then we beat them, then they patch and so on... or maybe they just subscribe to the Linux kernel security announcement group
Kernel sources would be nice, as would an official release so we can get Google earth working and get rid of the silly cdma only issues that persist. I wonder if the original leaker could get us a gsm image?

How old are you guys? Sometimes this Forum really feels like elementary school.
HTC's devs are way more capable than any of the devs here. Why? Because they have the ****ing drivers, sources, device details. They built their OS. Sometimes we can't even get basic features working here, or get constant FCs. Sorry to break it to you, but HTC doesn't care about this Forum.
I doubt it but if at all, they might have leaked it to get early feedback. Maybe that's why we don't see the ugly Espresso version with the bubbles and ****. They might actually release some screenshots or test versions on purpose to test the waters.

olafos said:
Maybe that's why we don't see the ugly Espresso version with the bubbles and ****.
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Totally agree with this part of your speech (.. and other too..)

Droid Eris gets 2.6.29 kernel source

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674915
Have they even gotten there official 2.1 eclair ota???
c'mon HTC, show us some love plox

Can't we technically use that one for our development?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674915
Have they even gotten there official 2.1 eclair ota???
c'mon HTC, show us some love plox
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tkirton said:
Can't we technically use that one for our development?
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Thats exactly like using a gsm hero's source code for our development. I don't really think so. but i could check it out and port some heroc stuff to see if it'll work

We've ported Eris dumps and Legend dumps (their source is also out). I understand it won't go straight out of the box, but since the Eris is almost identical to the Hero we have, I would think modifying it for us wouldn't be an issue. Wasn't the only difference hardware-wise was the light sensor on the Hero versus the proximity sensor on the Eris?
My luck...it'll be that camera again.
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Thats exactly like using a gsm hero's source code for our development. I don't really think so. but i could check it out and port some heroc stuff to see if it'll work
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tkirton said:
We've ported Eris dumps and Legend dumps (their source is also out). I understand it won't go straight out of the box, but since the Eris is almost identical to the Hero we have, I would think modifying it for us wouldn't be an issue. Wasn't the only difference hardware-wise was the light sensor on the Hero versus the proximity sensor on the Eris?
My luck...it'll be that camera again.
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do a string search for heroC in make menuconfig for both droid eris source and hero cdma source and tell me if you see the board configs for our phone in both of them. Its not as easy as porting roms from the same architecture as ours. If you noticed, in all the ports we replaced the kernel in the boot.img with our own leaked .29 kernel

This can only mean one thing. The update is near.

That's cool. Just an idea since it could be a while until we see our source code release. Wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers here.
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do a string search for heroC in make menuconfig for both droid eris source and hero cdma source and tell me if you see the board configs for our phone in both of them. Its not as easy as porting roms from the same architecture as ours. If you noticed, in all the ports we replaced the kernel in the boot.img with our own leaked .29 kernel
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tkirton said:
That's cool. Just an idea since it could be a while until we see our source code release. Wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers here.
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Ya never know though. Look, the Incredible code was released quick.

I may be wrong and we get it within a week or two after release (hopefully, I am wrong). I'm going by the last time source code was release, which was four months later.
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Ya never know though. Look, the Incredible code was released quick.
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tkirton said:
I may be wrong and we get it within a week or two after release (hopefully, I am wrong). I'm going by the last time source code was release, which was four months later.
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This leads to the question of why it was released with the 2.1 update...is this a new HTC or does Verizon have a hand in this?
Either way, this is nothing but good news for us and future Android phones.

Hopefully, it's HTC learning from the delay lessons of 1.5. If not, I guarantee that Sprint won't go to bat for us getting the source code...that may eat into their potential revenue for the Evo.
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This leads to the question of why it was released with the 2.1 update...is this a new HTC or does Verizon have a hand in this?
Either way, this is nothing but good news for us and future Android phones.
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tkirton said:
Hopefully, it's HTC learning from the delay lessons of 1.5. If not, I guarantee that Sprint won't go to bat for us getting the source code...that may eat into their potential revenue for the Evo.
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sprints never going to go to bat unless it affects their bottom line if it doesnt get relaesesd we will have to do the same thing we did when getting the source for 1.5 and start an email and call campaigne hopefully that wont come to that though as I think the 1.5 delay was becuase of the way that the kernel was hacked together to get CDMA support and with android now nativly supporting CDMA it hopefully wont be an issue.

Ahh really? Our soucre code for the. 29 kernel is the last thing we need. An overclocked kernel with working camera! oh well, I hope we can get it shortly after the 2.1 update goes live
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Legend, Incredible, Desire, and Eris 2.1 Kernel Source Code are now online

Here you go check this out just came out today. Hope this helps
http://ht.ly/1MODf

KingNemesis said:
Here you go check this out just came out today. Hope this helps
http://ht.ly/1MODf
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We already knew that. how do you think the devs got Eris Overclocked? lol!

meh... I see the Desire is the new one on the 14th.... but too bad it wont do us any good... although we knew about the incredible and eris source codes. Thanks though..

Google's new version of Froyo for the Nexus One

I am not sure if this is of value or if any of you are not already aware, but decided to post this in case it is of any worth to any of you who are working on developing Froyo Rom to work on a Sprint HTC Hero.
ZDnet story with included download link of Google's new version of Froyo for the Nexus One : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/google-releases-new-version-of-froyo/2213?tag=mantle_skin;content

distantneighbor said:
I am not sure if this is of value or if any of you are not already aware, but decided to post this in case it is of any worth to any of you who are working on developing Froyo Rom to work on a Sprint HTC Hero.
ZDnet story with included download link of Google's new version of Froyo for the Nexus One : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/google-releases-new-version-of-froyo/2213?tag=mantle_skin;content
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We still need source code to get Mic and other things working.

Under their own laws (found in Settings>About Phone>Legal Information), when Google officially releases Froyo for ANY device (Nexus, Droid, G1) they must release the source code. So, once they release a device version of Froyo, they must release Froyo on source.android.com.

HeroMeng said:
Under their own laws (found in Settings>About Phone>Legal Information), when Google officially releases Froyo for ANY device (Nexus, Droid, G1) they must release the source code. So, once they release a device version of Froyo, they must release Froyo on source.android.com.
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Google is becoming very HTC-y about source. Give it a week or 2. FroYo has been out for N1 for a couple of weeks now. This is an updated FroYo.
Still waiting on the source tree to drop sadly.

Kcarpenter said:
Google is becoming very HTC-y about source. Give it a week or 2. FroYo has been out for N1 for a couple of weeks now. This is an updated FroYo.
Still waiting on the source tree to drop sadly.
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Froyo isn't out yet. Google has not released it yet. There were some review units that Google sent Froyo to for review purposes only, but it has not been released to the public. The only reason the public has it is because of these leaks.
I expect Google to have it up as soon as it publicly drops. Now HTC on the other hand...

HeroMeng said:
Under their own laws (found in Settings>About Phone>Legal Information), when Google officially releases Froyo for ANY device (Nexus, Droid, G1) they must release the source code. So, once they release a device version of Froyo, they must release Froyo on source.android.com.
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This is incorrect. The Linux Kernel source is licensed under the GPL which means when you release something that uses it you must release any modifications you made to it. Android however is not licensed under such a license. It is under the Apache license which means any changes that Google, HTC, Cyanogen or any other entity makes to it do not have to be released. Now, Google changing the kernel source, yes that does mean they need to release that. But just that. They will release it all in time though. Should be this week or next week I would assume.

Lol, um froyo was released already
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aarronbittick said:
Lol, um froyo was released already
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Uhh... Not the source code. If the source was released it would show up here.

aarronbittick said:
Lol, um froyo was released already
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No, it has NOT been released: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/google-on-android-2-2-feverishly-working-to-get-a-final-versio/

Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .

Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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Not all devs have left. Damage, fresh, and toast were not the only ones who can do dev work and if u believe they were then go get an evo and dump ur perfectly working hero on someone not as ignorant as u r

Powers16 said:
Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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I have no doubt the Evo will get it first. But we still have devs on the board.
Darch has already commited to building an AOSP FrpYp, and there is enough documentation laying around here for anyone with some Linux-Fu to be able to take out our Hero Kernel and drop it into any system dump or boot image and at least make it bootable. Not necessarily 100% functional, but bootable.
I have no doubt that within a few days of Google dropping FroYo source that we have a functional version.
Also, I at this point in time don't care about HTC Sense UI. AOSP is awesome with ADW lancuher. That thing only keeps getting better. He has a build with gesture controls built in coming soon.
The ONLY thing I don't like about AOSP is Exchange emails with more than 1 attachment won't show me the email text...but I think this is just a user error.
For now I have been forwarding the email to my Gmail address to read it.

Papa Smurf151 said:
Not all devs have left. Damage, fresh, and toast were not the only ones who can do dev work and if u believe they were then go get an evo and dump ur perfectly working hero on someone not as ignorant as u r
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There is nothing ignorant about my comment. It's the way I feel about the situation and not You or anyone else will change that... before you go throwing stones make sure you understand that people will have different views than you.
/ignorance

Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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Seriously, dude, when I read this all I heard was, "Jimmy got a cool new phone and I don't have a cool new phone, but Jimmy used to make my phone cool and now Jimmy won't make my phone cool for me anymore. Someone call the WHAMBULANCE!" I hate to single you out because these threads are rife with whining anymore, but this is a prime example.
There is nothing ignorant about my comment.
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Yes there is. Start developing. Don't whine that someone else isn't doing the work anymore. Step up to the plate and do the work. I'm sick of people whining about developers moving to different phones and leaving users behind. They're not "leaving users behind", they're moving forward and they owe you nothing. This isn't the Marines. This is technology and business.
Complaining about them upgrading and not working on the ROM for your phone is like complaining that they didn't write ROMs for the G1 or Nexus 1. Should they be forced to buy those phones to develop on? Absolutely not.
Besides those points, your post still contains some ignorance. Damage stated he's not giving up development for the Hero, he's busy getting married this week. TrevE said he's backing away from the Evo for a bit to focus on the Hero. Darch is definitely still around, despite people trying to get him to move to the Evo. Where's the problem?

There's no point in arguing with both of you.for some reason when someone says the word dev you guys start creaming your pants and when the least bit of negative is said you guys go to McDonald's and order a whamburger and French cries. This is the internet morons and both of you need to get off the dev's nut sack and understand that I have an opinion and I'm gonna use it. Now both of you can go hold each other now.
/troll

There's no point in arguing with both of you.for some reason when someone says the word dev you guys start creaming your pants and when the least bit of negative is said you guys go to McDonald's and order a whamburger and French cries. This is the internet morons and both of you need to get off the dev's nut sack and understand that I have an opinion and I'm gonna use it. Now both of you can go hold each other now.
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This Guy equals moron and leecher. Will never dev anything on his own and will just cry cause a few devs left the hero site. Boo hoo cry me a river. U r welcome to ur opinion and can voice it all u like. I'm just informing u that ur opinion is wrong and ignorant.
That's is all and u may go now

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Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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Fresh and Darch are still dev'ing for the Hero as far as I know (I'm running Fresh Hero 2.3 beta which is only a couple of days old). I'm not sure about the rest but as long as those two are going strong there are good things to come.

FroYo just dropped into AOSP!

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FroYo just dropped into AOSP!
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Really??? LINK!!! We need to get this to Darch ASAP!!!

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Really??? LINK!!! We need to get this to Darch ASAP!!!
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Already tweeted at him.
http://android.git.kernel.org/?o=age

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nvm... ..

I think that's a great idea. I'd be willing to help out of this gets rolling.

Not to get OT, but getting an EVO won't help in getting the source released by HTC. Not too much he could do until then.

well considering avalaunch has made a 2.2 (froyo) aosp build for evo without the source (although camera still doesn't work) i think you could still make something
that works specially since it would still be 2.1 and the camera and libs all work on 2.1 already

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well considering avalaunch has made a 2.2 (froyo) aosp build for evo without the source (although camera still doesn't work) i think you could still make something
that works specially since it would still be 2.1 and the camera and libs all work on 2.1 already
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I believe his is a port though, not a true AOSP as a base. I could be wrong, but you would need the source in order to do that.

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Not to get OT, but getting an EVO won't help in getting the source released by HTC. Not too much he could do until then.
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Well maybe they will be a little closer to releasing the source by the time we get an evo in darch's hands.
Plus if we go ahead and hook him up he can start getting familiar with it.
Like I said I got $20 on it.
I'll start by making a list of commitments to donate in the OP
If you are willing to chip in for the cause please post it and the amount. If we get close to enough commitments to donate then I'll set the donate link up and we'll get this thing going.
thanks guys

Re: AOSP on EVO
I'm in for 20. The kid is amazing.
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nebenezer said:
Well maybe they will be a little closer to releasing the source by the time we get an evo in darch's hands.
Plus if we go ahead and hook him up he can start getting familiar with it.
Like I said I got $20 on it.
I'll start by making a list of commitments to donate in the OP
If you are willing to chip in for the cause please post it and the amount. If we get close to enough commitments to donate then I'll set the donate link up and we'll get this thing going.
thanks guys
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Sounds good to me.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6906739&postcount=1280

OtisFeelgood said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6906739&postcount=1280
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6906792&postcount=1281

Nothing to see here. Mods, close the thread! ;x

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Nothing to see here. Mods, close the thread! ;x
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Nice... way to show some gratitude for your favorite dev.

Put me down for $20. Darch the GOD of AOSP. I hope it doesn't take him that long like it did with the Hero.
C'mon guys, donate. Stop being cheaps

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Nice... way to show some gratitude for your favorite dev.
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Who? Flipz?

I don't want to spoil your party. but even if Darch had an evo, he would still need the kernel source for the 2.6.32 kernel, along with the vendor files to compile an Stock aosp rom. last i checked the official source for the .29 kernel hasn't been released, and when you look at htc's history of releasing kernel's it will be getting close to this time next year when the .32 kernel is officially released. but hey i'm hoping for a leak

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I don't want to spoil your party. but even if Darch had an evo, he would still need the kernel source for the 2.6.32 kernel, along with the vendor files to compile an Stock aosp rom. last i checked the official source for the .29 kernel hasn't been released, and when you look at htc's history of releasing kernel's it will be getting close to this time next year when the .32 kernel is officially released. but hey i'm hoping for a leak
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You're not spoiling my party.
I know it couldn't be done over night, and getting an aosp build on the evo is only half the reason for the party.
The other half is how much work he put in for us hero guys without asking for donations, or even posting a link to a way to donate to him.
He's a cool dude, he's brilliant, he wants an evo and can't afford it out of pocket atm, and having him here would be very cool indeed.
On that note, if anyone has an extra upgrade they would be willing to part with that would SERIOUSLY bridge the gap. My Dad has several lines on his account for his business and typically has one or 2 upgrades available but he just used all of them last week

20 here, He has made the Hero what it should have been from Day 1. I personally will not be getting an EVO until there is a AOSP rom for it. I wish the manufacturers would just leave it along. I also dont really care if it has 4g or not since from what I hear thats all on HTC CRAP code anyways

Yeah Darch does awesome work on his roms.

Dudes! You will not be taking out Hero Dev! For the most part everyone has bailed beside Flipz and Darch!

My former Hero and I are both huge fans of Darch! Put me down for $20... and Tipharet, stay out! Nothing to see here. (or get an Evo and join us )