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clockwork mod?

if i i just install the newest clockwork mod and not immedaitly flash a new rom will it effect my current rom? right now i have mdjs cyonogen 7 rom and it runs great but i want to try the new typhoon cyonogen and for that one i need to use the newest clockwork.i just dont want to install it right away i just want to have everything ready for when i do.thank you for any help you may give

no, CWR wont affect your current ROM at all.

lowrider262 said:
no, CWR wont affect your current ROM at all.
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Yes it will. It will override the current ROM you have flashed to NAND AFAIK. So basically it will just say kernel not found or something along the lines of that when you try boot AD NAND.
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Skellyyy said:
Yes it will. It will override the current ROM you have flashed to NAND AFAIK. So basically it will just say kernel not found or something along the lines of that when you try boot AD NAND.
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so can i install clock work then just reinstall my current rom?will that work?

puch77 said:
so can i install clock work then just reinstall my current rom?will that work?
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It depends upon the current ROM you are using. If you are using NAND ROM(DFT method) then it will overwrite clockwork MOD. There are special types of ROMS (.zip method) for clockwork mod.

jalshah05 said:
It depends upon the current ROM you are using. If you are using NAND ROM(DFT method) then it will overwrite clockwork MOD. There are special types of ROMS (.zip method) for clockwork mod.
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Yeah, what he said. You can easily back up your apps, homescreen layouts, settings etc. with either My Backup or Titanium backup. I personally prefer My backup as titanium wouldn't work for some odd reason for me.
You can get My Backup pro which will add the apps automatically for you too so you don't have to click install and done about a gazillion times depending on how many apps you have.
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jalshah05 said:
It depends upon the current ROM you are using. If you are using NAND ROM(DFT method) then it will overwrite clockwork MOD. There are special types of ROMS (.zip method) for clockwork mod.
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cool thank you.what size sd card works best? all i have is 2g right now

puch77 said:
cool thank you.what size sd card works best? all i have is 2g right now
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Well any size of SD card will do, as you will be installing android on NAND ROM via clockwork recovery. So your 2gb sd card will be free to be used for your data.
If you want more space than there are multiple options. either buy new sd card 8gb, 16gb or choose a ROM which is slim so that you have more space left on the phone.

Actually, it depends on your partition layout in the flash.cfg file. If you are not changing the partition layout, then it shouldn't erase anything. If the layout is different than what you had before, it will format the partitions.

puch77 said:
cool thank you.what size sd card works best? all i have is 2g right now
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That card well be used up very quickly. Backups with cwm take up alot of space. You could only put 2 backups on 2gb card.

mattfmartin said:
That card well be used up very quickly. Backups with cwm take up alot of space. You could only put 2 backups on 2gb card.
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how offten do back ups need to be made? ans why?

mstrk242 said:
Actually, it depends on your partition layout in the flash.cfg file. If you are not changing the partition layout, then it shouldn't erase anything. If the layout is different than what you had before, it will format the partitions.
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He's using a MDJ build which are all DFT so it would wipe it.
That's another thing, do you know which CWM partition size you need? If you plan on installing basic AOSP ROM's I recommend 150.
Oh and backups aren't needed,
they just backup the entire ROM you're using so if anything goes wrong with the other ROM you can gu back to the working one, that you've backed up.
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He's using a MDJ build which are all DFT so it would wipe it.
That's another thing, do you know which CWM partition size you need? If you plan on installing basic AOSP ROM's I recommend 150.
Oh and backups aren't needed,
they just backup the entire ROM you're using so if anything goes wrong with the other ROM you can gu back to the working one, that you've backed up.
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i plan on using the typhoon cyonogen build and i've also just found MDJs CWM that i want to put on it.io think the typhoon build uses the newest CWM.

puch77 said:
i plan on using the typhoon cyonogen build and i've also just found MDJs CWM that i want to put on it.io think the typhoon build uses the newest CWM.
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Yeah I'm sure they will both work with CWM once they're in .zip format. So download both, put them on your SD card, flash the 150M version of CWM then just partition the SD card the way you like (only if needed) and install a ROM. One thing to note, is when after you've installed a ROM, clear the cache. Just to get rid of anything left behind.

Skellyyy said:
Yeah I'm sure they will both work with CWM once they're in .zip format. So download both, put them on your SD card, flash the 150M version of CWM then just partition the SD card the way you like (only if needed) and install a ROM. One thing to note, is when after you've installed a ROM, clear the cache. Just to get rid of anything left behind.
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tried installing the CWM and it wouldnt install kept giving me an error? not sure what i did wrong

Skellyyy said:
Yeah I'm sure they will both work with CWM once they're in .zip format. So download both, put them on your SD card, flash the 150M version of CWM then just partition the SD card the way you like (only if needed) and install a ROM. One thing to note, is when after you've installed a ROM, clear the cache. Just to get rid of anything left behind.
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is the SD card only supoposed to have only the CWM on and nothing else until after it's installed?

puch77 said:
is the SD card only supoposed to have only the CWM on and nothing else until after it's installed?
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No, it can have a your files. I just keep all mine in a folder called ROM's just so they're not cluttered in the root of my SD.
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Apps 2 sd on CyanogenMod 7.0.0 from 14/04/11

How can i get apps2sd to work on charnsingh_online's CyanogenMod 7.0.0 for HTCLEO from 14/04/11?
I installed Darktremor 2.7.5.3 Beta 04 via CWM but with no luck, any advice is appreciated.
Thanks.

The beta's have never worked properly for me. Try one of the slightly older, stable releases. I use DT's a2sd and it works great for me.
Dont forget after flashing it, to do in terminal emulator:
su (enter)
a2sd reinstall (enter)
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Still no luck. I've got a ext4 partition maybe that's why. Should I change to a ext3?
It was working fine on the nightly (14/02/11).
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I dunno really. I have an ext4 as well, and it works for me. I wish I had some other option for you to get it working, but I'm pretty much stumped at this point. It may be possible that your rom's not compatible with a2sd, but that's just a guess. I suppose you could still go with apps2sd from the market, I guess it's better than nothing
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problem solved. For some reason it doesn't recognise ext4 partition. I had to format it in ext3.
Thanks

DT A2SD on CM 7.1 RC1

Some of you guys tried to install on CM dt a2sd 7 .1 RC1
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I never needed a A2SD script on CM7, because I could move any app to the SD out of the box.

I did try, phone bootlooping afther applying the script (a2sd chashesd), needed nand restore

Are you asking how to use dt apps2sd on cm7. If yes,
First partition the sdcard to 3 partitions (ext , swap, fat). Ext will be for applications and its value depends on your usage. Swap can be 0 mb, 32 mb, or any little value. And the remaining will be fat.
Then install cm7. Then install the dt apps2sd script from recovery. That's all. And while restarting the phone, it may reboot couple of times which is normal and during which the installed apps will be transferred to SD-ext. And when memory card is removed from phone , a reboot may occur and u can see a clean cm7 rom then since almost all apps will be present on the memory card Ext partition. Ok that's about process.
And if you face any issues like bootlooping or any other issues, it must be with partitioning related. Sometimes partitioning with recovery gives successful apps2sd. And sometimes it won't. In any case you can use "gparted live cd" to partition sdcard. Be careful in messing up with your computer partitions when using gparted.
Good luck....
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I tryd it to got it installed, checked the terminal got lots of errors. My phone became unstable so i reflashed the rom and deleted the patition.
I wish there is a full newbie guide to install this WITH screenshots.
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I think the hardest part of this is creating the partitions correctly. If once it is created everything will be fine.
I too had the bootlooping issues while trying it for first time. At first I thought it was due to newer beta dt apps2sd script. But when I used gparted to create partitions, it worked fine for me even with newer beta. Ofcourse I had few unsuccessful attempts with gparted too in creating partitions.
Edit: forgot to say that I used dt apps2sd with cm7 nightly #115.
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just to say:
I am using now ruymanica rom based on cm7,it has built in dt....just used command in terminal emulator and everything went fine

Thank you all for the immediate participation in the discussion.
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New, here needs some explanation.

I've read over and over and need verification and reassuarance that I'm doing this properly. Trying to keep track of android devices get confusing at time. I'm not a total android noob, I've got my thunderbolt, the wife's fascinate, and a droid x, I've just bought the iconia and it's rooted, my confusion lies with, its magic and the Acer recovery installer. After rooting do you just flash cwm via the Acer recovery installer? Create a backup and flash a new rom? And treat it like any other device?what's the importance of having both cwm and the Acer stock image? Stock is for receiving ota updates correct?
What's different between its magic and the Acer recovery installer?
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ARI installs both the custom CWM and itsmagic on to your tablet once rooted. Flashing ROMs through CWM will automatically run itsmagic to calculate the new checksums, you don't need to worry about it.
ARI is just there to make installing itsmagic and CWM a lot simpler.

Thanks. How do you format external SD on this thing?
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ibsk8 said:
Thanks. How do you format external SD on this thing?
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Have yet to find an app that can do this - have never had the need, but if needed I would just use a microsd card reader, hook it to my PC, and format from there. Anyone else know of a utility for Droid that allows format of external SD card?

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I could not the format function in honeycomb either kinda odd.
Anyway, if you are trying to 'format' for first time use in your tab, upon inserting SD card the tab automatically creates the file structure it needs. Hope that helps.

Take the card out.I use a format utility by sandisk works with all removable media.think I gotfeom there website. But there are alot of format utilities out there just format in fat 32 seems to work best.for me anyway
Hope this helps

I was just going to pop in in my thunderbolt and format it, is this a problem?
Also when creating backups with cwm does it save backups to the internal memory? Or external_sdcard?
Drives me nuts that the internal memory is at /mnt/sdcard and its not an SD card.
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ibsk8 said:
I was just going to pop in in my thunderbolt and format it, is this a problem?
Also when creating backups with cwm does it save backups to the internal memory? Or external_sdcard?
Drives me nuts that the internal memory is at /mnt/sdcard and its not an SD card.
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CWM saves to ext SD card!

Another Q, the tablet I have says android 3.0.1 ,what else do I need to know before flashing, do certain roms on work when on certain android versions?
On the phones you have to match roms to radios (but no radios here) are there firmware versions that need to be matched with the from or will flashing the rom bring you up to the current version.
I've learned the hard way so sorry for the noob questions, each device is a new method thanks.
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Check for update, newest update ota is 3.1
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Hymizzle said:
Check for update, newest update ota is 3.1
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What he said ^
update to 3.1 and then root with Iconiaroot 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
That way you don't have to bother with the orientation lock, etc of gingerbreak.

Thanks. Downloading now.
More questions.
When retrieving an ota is it necessary to revert back to the stock recovery as well?
For example prior to retrieving
1. Restore stock backup via cwm
2. Restore stock recovery (is this necessary?)
3. Unroot via terminal or other method
4. Retrieve OTA
Then reroot and reflash cwm recovery and create a backup.
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ibsk8 said:
For example prior to retrieving
1. Restore stock backup via cwm
2. Restore stock recovery (is this necessary?)
3. Unroot via terminal or other method
4. Retrieve OTA
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There shouldn't be the need for any of those steps, CWM doesn't care if you have rooted the tablet for example, and the OTA update just updates binaries on the system, it shouldn't be affected either.

if you install a stock rom, you have to re-flash cwm, root, kernel because it cleans everything, and i think that it is a good thing to happen.

switching to cm7#199.( ended up in cm7#203)

dudes i am planning to switch to #199 cm7.
the plans are...
1) fresh flash #199 with 2.6.32 buzz kernal.
2) dta2sd beta 3,jewz ram script, sd speed increase script(4068) .
3) custom mtd partition with 170mb system and 30 mb cache.
4) data and app to sd ext4.
5) 8gb class 4 sd partitioned to 1gb ext4, 32mb swap, rest with fat32 with a large allocation value.
6) lot of paid app of course.
i need your suggestions ....
thanks in advance.
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Do the mtd partition as you install 199, I got problems when a2sd was already installed, my mtd settings are 140 10, 10mb works fine for cache just make sure you have 06mountdl in your init.d folder otherwise you wont be able to download anything from the market above 10mb in size, if it isn't in the init.d folder you should find it in the cm zip.
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Scratch0805 said:
Do the mtd partition as you install 199, I got problems when a2sd was already installed, my mtd settings are 140 10, 10mb works fine for cache just make sure you have 06mountdl in your init.d folder otherwise you wont be able to download anything from the market above 10mb in size, if it isn't in the init.d folder you should find it in the cm zip.
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dude i haven't heared of init.d folder. pls explain. well i surely plan to give 25 mb cache. if so do i need to care about init.d folder?
" just make sure you have 06mountdl in your init.d folder" dude i realy dont understand this.
" if it isn't in the init.d folder you should find it in the cm zip." and this too i dnt understand.
so i am a newbee to custom mtd partition. hence i need help about this. how should i need to use the script? i plan to flash it soon after i reboot to #199. only after that i will install my apps.and also gapps. so do i need to take nandroid backup? as i have backups of my app using titanium backup. so i will install every thing later.
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Put the files needed on your sd card and write your settings in the txt file.
Run the first part of the mtd partition (wipe system/data/cache and install the first zip, bravo recovery or something like that, reboot your recovery from the advanced setting.
After doing the first step install your fresh copy of cm7 (instead of the nandroid backup) without wiping anything, then run the bravo boot zip and let it boot before installing anything else.
Files from the market, when first downloaded go to your /cache folder which if set to only 10mb would mean you can only download files below 10mb in size, the 06mountdl script deals with this by diverting the downloads elsewhere /data partition I think (not sure), the scripts are found in /system/etc/init.d after installing cyanogen if your cache size is small just check that folder (with root explorer) as a few times I have had to extract 06mountdl from the cm7 zip because it hasn't installed.
All that happens if 06mountdl isn't there is, when you go to the market you'll get an annoying message saying you don't have space left if the filesize of the app is larger than your cache.
Hope that made sense its 7am here.
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thanks for your help dude. i will check it out. also do i need to flash dta2sd b4 or after i install apps. i had done it b4 i install apps in my current rom#177. do you have any suggestions?
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Not entirely sure, I know some people say before but its never harmed me doing it after, you may aswell just run it straightaway though after your first reboot. Just in case.
I only use beta 3 as I had problems with beta 4, I don't think there's any noticeable changes between them tbh.
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k. i will check it. and will post my experience. thank you dude. see you soon.
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So i ended up in cm7#203. Stable. Fast, like it a lot.
The sad thing is i can't make custom mtd. Every time i ended in a non booting cm7 boot screen. Actually i had to flash froyo 2.2.1 ruu 2 times. Rooted, installed cwm. 2 times. Coz i had done like u said. Flashed custom mtd recovery with mtdpartmap.txt file containing 160 25. Then installed new rom with a reboot of recovery only.also flashed bravo boot. All as you said. Stuck in splash screen. So again tried to flash new rom and kernel from recovery. Still the same after flashing. So again ruu flash. Install custom cwm v5.xxx.partitioned SD. This time the SD got corrupted. So removed custom cwm and put original cwm using fastboot flash. Then partitioned with out errors. And installed cm7#203 from cwm, SD speed increase script,Jews ram script,2.6.35 kernal, latest radio, mediaprofile patch, gapps for 2.3.5 Andy. Rebooted after dalvic wipe. Itz running perfect. Installed s2e app . Moved app,private app, data, to ext.
I think that s2e is more efficient than dta2sd. It is faster, move almost every thing to ext. And internal memory consumption is quite low after app installations(when compared to dta2sd). Also booting and shut down are faster.
I will be watching for future errors. Thank you.
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