look at this site ,it states that x10 contains hardware fm radio is this true and will it be activated via os update like xperia x2 ? ,or iam mistaken
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2081&c=sony_ericsson_xperia_x10a_se_rachael
In theory in nexus with froyo shows radio fm therefore in x10 with same chip snapdragon should be equal
yeah even i saw dat and was wonderin the same thing..
this is the same chipset as the HTC HD2 as well which has a decent FM tuner.. so may be year the hardware is there.. but I guess v need a brave person to do an in depth teardown of the device....
Who is up to the challenge??????????
I cant risk mine, just got it..
i think wireless chip is different from the processor
FM Radio is usually integrated on the bluetooth IC. HTC uses normally Texas Instruments' ICs, and the BRF 63x0 ic has radio, though it's usually disabled. The X10 uses a completely different chipset both for bluetooth and wlan. In fact, wlan is atheros.
So.... don't take it for granted. That's why they sell a headset with integrated radio
biktor_gj said:
FM Radio is usually integrated on the bluetooth IC. HTC uses normally Texas Instruments' ICs, and the BRF 63x0 ic has radio, though it's usually disabled. The X10 uses a completely different chipset both for bluetooth and wlan. In fact, wlan is atheros.
So.... don't take it for granted. That's why they sell a headset with integrated radio
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this headset is sold with other Se devices which have fm radio
I got a headset with my X10i for free and it has radio in it
MOD EDIT - Moved to general forum as not related to android development
hoss_n2 said:
look at this site ,it states that x10 contains hardware fm radio is this true and will it be activated via os update like xperia x2 ? ,or iam mistaken
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2081&c=sony_ericsson_xperia_x10a_se_rachael
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No. The X10 doesn't have FM-radio support by itself. I got the MW600 in my box and it works flawlessly with built in radio!
Flamso said:
No. The X10 doesn't have FM-radio support by itself. I got the MW600 in my box and it works flawlessly with built in radio!
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including the MW600 does not mean the lack of hardware ,anio comes with this headset an it has fm built in
hoss_n2 said:
including the MW600 does not mean the lack of hardware ,anio comes with this headset an it has fm built in
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Well no, but the X10 doesn't have a FM radio chip.
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well no, but the x10 doesn't have a fm radio chip.
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any proove for this
Hey Guys , it is there.
it is in the bluetooth headset ,
check your bluetooth head , keep pressing on the two arrows , it will give you two options , one to connect it to the phone , the other is fm radio , it is working right now with me , if you can not figure it out i will upload the photos
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Hey Guys , it is there.
it is in the bluetooth headset ,
check your bluetooth head , keep pressing on the two arrows , it will give you two options , one to connect it to the phone , the other is fm radio , it is working right now with me , if you can not figure it out i will upload the photos
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Can you post some pics of it? Any proove?
Sounds to me like your bluetooth headset has an FM radio, not the X10.
Do you have MW600?
most unwanted option is the radio.if you want radio you mw600 bt headset
Is the chipsset in the X10 mini´s so mutch different from the X10 ?
Both X10 mini have FM-radio, but for some strage reason the BIG X10 have not ??
I belive that the hardware in the X10 do have FM-radio, but perhaps for some unknown reason S/E decided to not enable that feature...
Perhaps they had some big problems right before they put the X10 on the marked, and decided to disable the radio becource of that...
Anyway, in my mind it give no sense what so ever that the big X10 have NO radio inside, when they small do...
- so i am pretty shure it is "only" lack of software that is the issue...
I for one would love to get the FM-radio feature, i have allways used the FM-radio feature in my phones, and i actually didn´t notise when i bought my X10 that it didn´t have a simple thing as an FM-radio...
BTW:
Not all network providers sell the X10 package including the MW600, my provider have an other package with 16Gb memory instead...
Only one or two providers here in denmark have the MW600 in the sales package, but then they only get 8Gb memorycard instead...
(But i know that some providers arround the world have both MW600 and 16Gb memory in their sales packages...)
Bonus info...
I DID actually buy a MW600 for 3 weeks ago, and it worked really REALLY well, but that is dead now as my dear wife decided to wash my jacket with the MW600 still in it...
pshdo said:
Is the chipsset in the X10 mini´s so mutch different from the X10 ?
Both X10 mini have FM-radio, but for some strage reason the BIG X10 have not ??
I belive that the hardware in the X10 do have FM-radio, but perhaps for some unknown reason S/E decided to not enable that feature...
Perhaps they had some big problems right before they put the X10 on the marked, and decided to disable the radio becource of that...
Anyway, in my mind it give no sense what so ever that the big X10 have NO radio inside, when they small do...
- so i am pretty shure it is "only" lack of software that is the issue...
I for one would love to get the FM-radio feature, i have allways used the FM-radio feature in my phones, and i actually didn´t notise when i bought my X10 that it didn´t have a simple thing as an FM-radio...
BTW:
Not all network providers sell the X10 package including the MW600, my provider have an other package with 16Gb memory instead...
Only one or two providers here in denmark have the MW600 in the sales package, but then they only get 8Gb memorycard instead...
(But i know that some providers arround the world have both MW600 and 16Gb memory in their sales packages...)
Bonus info...
I DID actually buy a MW600 for 3 weeks ago, and it worked really REALLY well, but that is dead now as my dear wife decided to wash my jacket with the MW600 still in it...
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And remember that Mini have MT, right? The screen panel is the same, i think...
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And remember that Mini have MT, right? The screen panel is the same, i think...
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No, there is no MT in the mini´s, but i have read that the mini pro (i think it was the pro) have the hardware for MT...
But who is talking about MT ??
- i don´t care about that...!
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Hello everyone,
Hope all is fine with each & everyone of you.
I have a question that I need to ask (especially for those who live in the US of A) or those who are very tech savvy with in depth understanding of HTC devices hardware, if any of you had tried this item (or can try it & confirm)
http://www.gomogear.com/detail.aspx?PRODUCT_ID=214620
It would be really cool to have an FM Radio in our (at least my ) PPC
It uses the SDIO technology, I dont know if its supported by Universal but as you can see in this table
http://www.gomogear.com/genDocs/SDFM2updatedCompatibilityList.html
They do NOT list any Universal device, but again if you see the bottom of the main page, it reads Copyright © 2005 GoMoGear.com
which means they do NOT update their site as often as they should, so maybe...
I hope to hear the good news soon, of course if you happen to know an alternative for this gadget, please let us (me) know
Thank you & have a nice weekend.
i don't know about radio, but i use sling media and watch my tv all the time. there is a setting that you can choose the uses audio only as well
Well one can use Nokia HS 12w BT headset for FM...I am using & its amazing...
dean56 said:
i don't know about radio, but i use sling media and watch my tv all the time. there is a setting that you can choose the uses audio only as well
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Hello Dean,
Well for a start I thought (Sling Media) was some GPRS service or 3G feature that your network operates, I did some search and I found out that this is a device you have to install somewhere & then have internet connection to be able to receive it's signal wherever you are, I like the idea, but this is not what I meant with the original post, this mean you has to have whole lot of equipments (TV, cable, satellite, etc..) somewhere (home or office).
The thing I referred to in the original post is a SDIO card, same as SD that we use for storage on our Universals, but these comes with built in IO (Input/Output) features, check this out for more details
http://www.sdcard.org/sdio/index.html
I found a product that provides FM tuner in an SDIO card, but they do not list Universal as a compatible device, not because its not (I think) but because they have not tried it it, as it is (the SDIO) compatible with previous HTC models.
I hope someone can confirm
Have a nice weekend
hdubli said:
Well one can use Nokia HS 12w BT headset for FM...I am using & its amazing...
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Well I didnt know Nokia HS 12w BT has built-in FM tuner, which is cool if it is, but I do already have a Motorola BT HT820 headset.
By the way, although Nokia headset are supposed to be wireless, the real thing is that they do have wires (Motorola HT850 is really wireless), but again this is not what we are talking about here, its the FM on Universal.
Thank you for your idea though mate!
Have a nice weekend![/url]
HS 12w has builtin FM TUner....
Can't comment on the one you're asking about but the link below has one that I can guarantee does work as I have one. http://www.c-guysusa.com/
Lakota said:
Can't comment on the one you're asking about but the link below has one that I can guarantee does work as I have one. http://www.c-guysusa.com/
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Does it work with Universal even if it is not listed?!
I read the compatibility page and something tells me that it IS the same device, as they both have SAME listed phones the SAME way, anyways I don't care what is the brand on it as long as it is working, so can you please confirm it is working with Universal?
Did you have any problem installing the software?
Thanks Mate & I hope you had a nice weekend!
Cheers
hdubli said:
HS 12w has builtin FM TUner....
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Cool! I will consider it for sure
Thanx!
CerberuS said:
Lakota said:
Can't comment on the one you're asking about but the link below has one that I can guarantee does work as I have one. http://www.c-guysusa.com/
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Does it work with Universal even if it is not listed?!
I read the compatibility page and something tells me that it IS the same device, as they both have SAME listed phones the SAME way, anyways I don't care what is the brand on it as long as it is working, so can you please confirm it is working with Universal?
Did you have any problem installing the software?
Thanks Mate & I hope you had a nice weekend!
Cheers
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Indeed I can confirm it works even though it's not listed. I had no trouble installing the software but the user interface is quite basic and not much to look at.
[quote="Lakota]
Indeed I can confirm it works even though it's not listed. I had no trouble installing the software but the user interface is quite basic and not much to look at.[/quote]
Thanks Mate!
This is what I needed to hear.
All the best!
Cheers
Anyone knows if P3600 have this function? If yes, how can I get it working on my. Is needed any software, or upgrade? Tks
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_compare_pda.htm
no
Search and read before posting pleazzz....!!!
Yeah but that info is wrong anyway rudegar it claims the Trinity doesn't have built in GPS.
yeah i know the gps was disabled in the rom for the trinity at the time they made that compare page
guess htc should update their site
Tks, but I still don´t have the answer for this question. Do U know something?? could U help me??
Rudegar said:
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_compare_pda.htm
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See... NO
Atom has FM radio.
No, it doesn´t have fm radio built in.
you can only use the streaming player to listen to radio stations.
Cheers
Jarvis
problem is that it dont have normal SDIO slots if it had
you could get plenty of SD cards which were FM radios
another option is that many headsets you can buy
comes with FM radio included
well maybe not many but you can get em
Radio possible P3600
The motherboard of the P3600 has an emplacement for a FM Radio chip, but most Trinitys do not have it. I believe somewhere in the world some company sells them with the FM Radio chip. Before buying I could have sworn that I saw it somewhere and since I have seen photos of the trinity motherboard with and without the FM Radio chip - on a French site PPC Cool - can't find the post right now.
Hey
Is there a cab of FM Radio for Elf??
Thanks
The Elf does not have fm radio, never has, never will. It is not capable as it does not have the hardware; however, if you want to try it anyway - Try the FM Radio cab for the touch diamond.
I have already trying this but it doesn't works... Thanks for your fast answer
Sorry, It doesn't work because it can't work. As I said before, No hardware in the elf for FM Radio.
If you have a good data plan - Use can listen to internet radio. This is what I do and I get much better selection of music to listen to with no *(or hardly any) commercials.
Ok, good idea
i know that there is no hardware in the elf but is there a mod you can do to add the hardware inside the phone? or is there a mini usb attachment to give you fm?
caraudio014 said:
i know that there is no hardware in the elf but is there a mod you can do to add the hardware inside the phone? or is there a mini usb attachment to give you fm?
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Never heard of such a thing myself...
However, you can go to the dollar store and buy one of those cheap fm scanning pocket radio's - even comes with ear buds and you are good to go
Hi i think there is a bluetooth headphone with built in FM radio ( may be Motorola ! i cant remember ) you may search ebay or amazon
ok well thanks anyways for the help
hi all
I've heard that Leo can play FM Radio without headphone work as an antenna? I wonder at it?
Is there anyone can confirm that....
Thanks!
Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
I would love the day the manufacturers could put in a antenna to allow use of the FM radio without putting in a headset.
I hate using a wired headset.
Try one of these, no need for headphones and a bit cheaper!
http://www.morgan111morgan.com/port...adios-64/jwin-am-fm-mini-radio-jxm6-3718.html
Its a phone ffs, lol
Mind you they are getting bigger, so one day you could have a £500 fm radio with built in antenna.
fresh-popcorn said:
I would love the day the manufacturers could put in a antenna to allow use of the FM radio without putting in a headset.
I hate using a wired headset.
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i dont think its as easy as just putting radio antennas inside a body of a phone.
one might have to think about interference to/from the phone antenna, wifi antenna, bluetooth antenna, gps antenna and any other antennas already present in the phone.
I don't think it's even physically possible to make an antenna small enough to fit in a phone which is sensitive enough to receive low-frequency signals like radio.
B3ler3fonte said:
Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
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Thanks B3ler3fonte for the info.
B3ler3fonte said:
Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
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fresh-popcorn said:
I would love the day the manufacturers could put in a antenna to allow use of the FM radio without putting in a headset.
I hate using a wired headset.
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thank you, guys!
anyway I totally dont like every time taking the headphone follow me..
still hope one day Leo could..
B3ler3fonte said:
Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
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Mmm..I dont know how to say but I just heard that from someone. They said Leo could play FM Radio without headphone in new coming Rom update. Any Mods here knows it?
It is not a bad ROM, it is because of radio-frequencies all need antennas that fit their special wavelength to work.
If you use radiowaves you can use antennas that are only half or a quarter of the wavelength, so 10cm waves need 2,5 cm or 5 cm antennas.
Radiowaves in FM are about 4 m wavelength, so you need 1 m antenna!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum
gatling said:
It is not a bad ROM, it is because of radio-frequencies all need antennas that fit their special wavelength to work.
If you use radiowaves you can use antennas that are only half or a quarter of the wavelength, so 10cm waves need 2,5 cm or 5 cm antennas.
Radiowaves in FM are about 4 m wavelength, so you need 1 m antenna!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum
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Thanks for your answer. it's clearly..
Have a nice day! man..
mrkyo said:
thank you, guys!
anyway I totally dont like every time taking the headphone follow me..
still hope one day Leo could..
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...you can always use a std. jack with few inches of wire...
mrkyo said:
hi all
I've heard that Leo can play FM Radio without headphone work as an antenna? I wonder at it?
Is there anyone can confirm that....
Thanks!
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Hey maybe this is interesing for you, im planning to buy this when it comes out
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mw600?lc=nl&cc=nl
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Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
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The FM Radio tool from the HTC Debug Tools (On the prototype phones) does work without earphones.
Also tried the tool in my release phone, als also there the fm radio worked without earphones....
just a few more months and the Sony Ericsson MW600 headset will be availlable with build in FM radio.. I have a SE HBH-DS220 at the moment and it works great sound is awesome..
I wish we could enable audioboost with A2DP
xmoo said:
The FM Radio tool from the HTC Debug Tools (On the prototype phones) does work without earphones.
Also tried the tool in my release phone, als also there the fm radio worked without earphones....
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does it recived channels and you could hear it without head phones
i don't bother the built-in FM radio. Try use WunderRadio. Internet-based radio. Of course you need unlimited data plan for this to work.
Some walkman phones have built in fm antennas like w960, and some cheap chinese phones too, i don't remembor which one though, i read their test on mobilearena long time ago, so if it is possible.
dgtel2 said:
i don't bother the built-in FM radio. Try use WunderRadio. Internet-based radio. Of course you need unlimited data plan for this to work.
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That's great, except when you are on the move and lose data coverage which is exactly what makes the FM radio useful.
I just had the july 8 nrg rom in and the fm tuner would open & receive a few channels with NO wired headset plugged in & played it though the speaker..
I want to know if the fm tuner capabilities are based on the rom in general or a specific "fm tuner driver"
Currently on kumars 2.4.1 and of course the fm wont open without a wired headset plugged in : (
in the regestry edit you enter the section BCMSDDHD1 has any one noticed that the first 3 letters bcm reveals to the broadcom chip that exists in it as models from this company starts with 3 letters like (BCM4329)
and the only chip in this company that supports n wifi is the (BCM4329) that exists in the google nexus one and this chip supports fm transmition so
conclusion (if hd2 really supports wifi n type then it contains the only chip that supports it which is the BCM4329 that should support fm transmittence ) so if (wifi n) is really supported then the hd2 has a built in (fm transmitter hardware) that exists in the (BCM4329)chip so we hope to make an application to activate this option
correct me if iam wrong
what we have reached till now for developers
1.BLAST3RR have helped us with the datasheet in the attatchements for the broadcom chip
2. some tests are made to make sure that the hd2 has a really wifi n hardware and it seems that it supports it some what so we are some what sure that hd2 contains the BCM4329 chip as it is the only chip that supports wifi n type but we need live evidense
3. there are some pics of the internal components but it doesnot show the kind of the chip
4. xmoo posted a link to a cab that may help us in developing http://rapidshare.com/files/34053706...ebug_Tools.cab and here is the link of its thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5446085
5.BLAST3RR reached that hd2 definitely has an audio path to the TX part for the FM radio, as it is listed in the 'WceSetAudioDev'.
Among the options is a 'I2S TX'. I therefore assume this is the path needed to feed the transmitter audio
6.useful files are added in attatchements fmradiosdk.dll & htcfm.dill to help in development
what is missing us
1. we only miss drivers for now
thanks you all for your support
i have posted a post in windows software development forum to ask experts to help us this is the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624822
updates
the hd2 is confirmed now to to have the bmc 4329 see this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624331 see the attatchements
Interesting..
Subscribing to this topic.
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Interesting..
Subscribing to this topic.
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thanks for the support
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+1 here ______________
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let's hope some of the professionals read this post and help us
please i don't want this post to die
Anything is (possible). But wouldn't the (HD2) need some kind of (transmission aerial) suitable for (FM)? And if it had that, then (HTC would have added the feature in the first place).
Why the weird brackets, by the way?
interesting
Good luck for the R&D guys to figure that out. Some mod should make this one sticky.
+1 here aswell
oooh yea, subscribing
elyl said:
Anything is (possible). But wouldn't the (HD2) need some kind of (transmission aerial) suitable for (FM)? And if it had that, then (HTC would have added the feature in the first place).
Why the weird brackets, by the way?
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the fm transmittance antenna is in the broadcom chip(BCM4329) it self as it is said to has two antennas see this http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4329
and rememper tp2 it has fm radio hardware but it was disabled until some developers enabled it by cab and disabeling wifi n in hd2 until a sutiable tweak to enable it (who knows why htc do things like this)
i hope this thread to be stickey as it will be ignored and we will never know the truth
+1
Very interesting indeed!
elyl said:
Anything is (possible). But wouldn't the (HD2) need some kind of (transmission aerial) suitable for (FM)? And if it had that, then (HTC would have added the feature in the first place).
Why the weird brackets, by the way?
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Even if this is the case, I think the same antenna would be used as for receiving FM radio (the headset). So still, no worries as far as the aerial concerns.
This would probably require a driver to work first, though. Then the second thing to find is an application to send audio to it/control frequencies.
Anyone who would be able to develop such application will definitely get a donation from me.
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Even if this is the case, I think the same antenna would be used as for receiving FM radio (the headset). So still, no worries as far as the aerial concerns.
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but i think fm transmittance antenna is not the same as the fm reciver my frind has nokia n79 it needs headset to recive fm but it transmits without it
i think fm transmittence is direct from the chip as it has two antennas one for wifi and other for fm transmittence as i read before but reciving fm signals is through the headset as it needs longer antena
hoss_n2 said:
but i think fm transmittance antenna is not the same as the fm reciver my frind has nokia n79 it needs headset to recive fm but it transmits without it
i think fm transmittence is direct from the chip as it has two antennas one for wifi and other for fm transmittence as i read before but reciving fm signals is through the headset as it needs longer antena
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I know, but I was just stating that the aerial should therefore be no problem.
And that this would definitely be worth investigating.
When I had a Nokia N86 it had the FM transmitting aerial built into the battery cover.
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I know, but I was just stating that the aerial should therefore be no problem.
And that this would definitely be worth investigating.
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sorry you are right the aerial is not the problem now
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