i heared that the x10 only have 256 mb ram , and the asian version is the version who has 384 ,not the worldwide version ,so what is the truth
Well, gsm arena has 384Mb in their spec list.
Unfortunately android 1.6 can "see" only 256Mb so, no idea how much really has.
We will know for sure when we will get android 2.1.
Also at that point we will know if the display has 16mil colors or only 65k
I'm also curious to know howmuch RAM does that beast actually have. Somewhere I read that only the Japanese X10 from DOCOMO has 384 Mb RAM
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I'm also curious to know howmuch RAM does that beast actually have. Somewhere I read that only the Japanese X10 from DOCOMO has 384 Mb RAM
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The japanese version runs android 1.6 but still has 384 mb ram.
but the x10i and X10a versions are said to have only 256 mb ram. may be SE has locked some ram in the x10i and the X10a just like Htc did for the leo european version.
From dmsg:
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<6>[ 0.000000] usb serial_number = CB511GYDBV
<6>[ 0.000000] usb product_name = Sony Ericsson X10i
<3>[ 0.000000] Unknown boot option `androidboot.hardware=es209ra': ignoring
<4>[ 0.000000] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 8192 bytes)
<6>[ 0.000000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
<6>[ 0.001126] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
<6>[ 0.029960] Memory: 224MB 127MB = 351MB total <--------- THE MEMORY
<5>[ 0.030006] Memory: 273664KB available (4456K code, 1250K data, 140K init)
<6>[ 0.030546] Calibrating delay loop... 255.59 BogoMIPS (lpj=1277952)
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Ciao Angelo
ardf69 said:
From dmsg:
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<6>[ 0.000000] usb serial_number = CB511GYDBV
<6>[ 0.000000] usb product_name = Sony Ericsson X10i
<3>[ 0.000000] Unknown boot option `androidboot.hardware=es209ra': ignoring
<4>[ 0.000000] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 8192 bytes)
<6>[ 0.000000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
<6>[ 0.001126] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
<6>[ 0.029960] Memory: 224MB 127MB = 351MB total <--------- THE MEMORY
<5>[ 0.030006] Memory: 273664KB available (4456K code, 1250K data, 140K init)
<6>[ 0.030546] Calibrating delay loop... 255.59 BogoMIPS (lpj=1277952)
...
Ciao Angelo
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this nearly 384
256MB RAM
128MB video memory or VRAM
i mentioned it b4
here
&
here
And how much ram the Nexus One has? 512mb all for the system?
IMO the ram is VERY important, and if the X10 only has 256mb for the system and the HTC Desire or de N1 has the double (n1) or more (HTC desire) i think i will make the change...
Don't clog up the dev forums with this stuff this is exactly what general Is for
Nexus one has a full 512 for system. I also thought the x10 has 384 as mentioned by gsmarena. Might return mine for an acer liquid e now
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sory my mistake please move it mods
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Only a mod can move the thread can't they?
Since its not moved yet - I've done a test with my X10i.
Using the system panel app with 51% of memory used there is (49% left of course) 130.2MB available, so there must be at least 260.4MB free to the user, and there is a lot used by the system too.
130.2/49 = 1% of user available ram = 2.657 MB (to 3 decimal places)
2.657MB x 100 = approximately 100% of user available ram = 265.7MB
265.7MB is more than 256MB of ram without system memory added to the total.
With my old t-mobile pulse which had 192MB of ram, only 90-something MB was available to the user, with 102 used by system etc.
So there is probably 384MB of ram in all X10's.
EDIT:
the X10i look like have 384Mb RAM, but it's not detailled :
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10-2964.php
The Nexus One have 512 Mb, not detailled too :
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_google_nexus_one-3069.php
But the X10 is look better than Nexus1 in fact... better Photos, better Videos, better pretty... speed look a little bit the same... perhaps more slowly with much applications executed at the same time..
In France, the Nexus1 is cheaper than X10, but i decide to buy the X10... more design, better photos, Videos, ....
I use to have an iPhone 3G, photos and videos are really poor... but applications are really GOOD... but i'm not a player...
Off my X10a:
Code:
*$ cat /proc/meminfo
cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 274608 kB
MemFree: 7464 kB
Buffers: 108 kB
Cached: 33080 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 110884 kB
Inactive: 117880 kB
Active(anon): 96816 kB
Inactive(anon): 100984 kB
Active(file): 14068 kB
Inactive(file): 16896 kB
Unevictable: 1124 kB
Mlocked: 0 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
Dirty: 0 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 196716 kB
Mapped: 23468 kB
Slab: 8160 kB
SReclaimable: 2028 kB
SUnreclaim: 6132 kB
PageTables: 17236 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 137304 kB
Committed_AS: 6417160 kB
VmallocTotal: 1179648 kB
VmallocUsed: 152160 kB
VmallocChunk: 951292 kB
MOD EDIT - Moved to general forum as not related to android development
Apparently the donut limits the ram so once an upgrade appears we'll have it all
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Sorry, that I post in an old topic...
Android system info and Quadrant are showing 280MB RAM. Quadrant shows also 100MB unused, it's not the free RAM, I had 50MB RAM free when I locked at it, so my question is:
Can we activate these 100MB somehow? That would help big games and when a lot of apps are running simultaneous...
only if you crack bootloader.
Related
Just like the title means... i have a killer question
My little brother has a Cingular 8125, here are the aspects:
(WM5)
cpu : OMAP8590
speed : 195 mghz
ram: 64 MB
flash size: 128 MB
flash chip type: m-systems
bus: 16 bits
Storage size: 42 MB
mine are on a O2 xda iis (blue angel)
(WM6)
cpu: intel (r) PXA263
speed: 400 mghz
ram size 128 MB
flash size 32 MB
flash chip type: 28F128K3
bus: 32 bits
Storage size: 60 MB
ratio 1.02.10
both with 230 x 320 lcd screens with 65536 colors.
I just have moved (after reading A LOT!) to windows mobile 6.... i grab his pda just to compare, and he has A LOT of speed than mine
It's because of the rom that i had installed? (it's the one with the sticky on the threads on WM6 around the corner in here)
or because the WM edition itself
In advanced, thanxs, its a big big thing because if i am right, i had at least the double that he has, so, all of this is not right... right????
please, anything will be welcome!
ppchkn said:
Just like the title means... i have a killer question
My little brother has a Cingular 8125, here are the aspects:
(WM5)
cpu : OMAP8590
speed : 195 mghz
ram: 64 MB
flash size: 128 MB
flash chip type: m-systems
bus: 16 bits
Storage size: 42 MB
mine are on a O2 xda iis (blue angel)
(WM6)
cpu: intel (r) PXA263
speed: 400 mghz
ram size 128 MB
flash size 32 MB
flash chip type: 28F128K3
bus: 32 bits
Storage size: 60 MB
ratio 1.02.10
both with 230 x 320 lcd screens with 65536 colors.
I just have moved (after reading A LOT!) to windows mobile 6.... i grab his pda just to compare, and he has A LOT of speed than mine
It's because of the rom that i had installed? (it's the one with the sticky on the threads on WM6 around the corner in here)
or because the WM edition itself
In advanced, thanxs, its a big big thing because if i am right, i had at least the double that he has, so, all of this is not right... right????
please, anything will be welcome!
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See your other thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326838
My Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 i s low on memory.if i look at the device information unser settings,what i see is:
CPU:QUALCOMM(R) 7200A
Speed:528Mhz
RAM size:128 MB
Flash size:256 MB
Data bus:32 bits
Storage size:45.18MB
Display resolution:480 x 800
Colors:65536
Bluetooth version:2.0/2.0+EDR
please how do i make it have normal memory because i read that the X1 has an internal memory of 400MB.please help !!!!!
I think that the 256 MB is the normal amount of storage for the X1..
But what I dont understand is your amount of RAM - only 128 MB..?
The normal amount is about 256, or actually 200 in real life.. But 128..??
Are you sure that this info is from an X1..?
My X1 have:
RAM: 256 MB
Flash: 512 MB
i think your unit is faulty
take it back to se .
It could be a prototype or something, i could be wrong though. Don't worry about onboard memory too much, as its going to be next to nothing either way, the RAM is something to worry about however . . .
where did you get it from?
it does sound like a protoype..
You can look behind the battery, think Ive seen that SE has writte "Prototype" on the sticker.
I think it's a prototype too beause the first Xperia Prototypes got 128 MB RAM.
that's weird???
Xperia goes:
QUALCOMM(R) 7200A
Speed: 528 MHx
RAM size : 256 MB
Flash size: 512 MB
Data Bus: 32 bits
hello to all,
I had an ozone a month ago that had 192 mb of ram.
I had it bricked, and got a new one - but this one only reports 128 mb of ram.
What's the deal with this? Is my new ozone deffective?
They both report 111 mb of software ram - one said "os program memory: 68 mb" and the other one reports 16.4 mb. But both phones have 111.53 mb of usable ram.
Why is this?
Thanks-
Tomi
HTC still sites it as having 192mb of ram so I'd go back to whoever you got the phone from an explain the situation.
Source: http://www.htc.com/us/product/HTCOzone/specification.html
that is odd... But this would be my third phone replacement from Verizon. It's really not a "big" deal - but I find it weird that with the 192 mb ram phone the OS program memory was 68 mb and with the 128 mb one it was 16. So I'm wondering here if phones with 192 mb of ram have "bulk" ram or something - afterall, if it's 68 mb on those ozones, shouldn't it be 68 mb on the ones with 128 mb of ram?
So, im trying to find out how the X10 has its ram etc set out.
Is it a 256mb chip for ram, a 128mb chip for graphics and then a 1gb chip for the OS and user data?
Or is it just 1 1.5/2GB chip that is partitioned into sections for ram, os, userdata etc.
Dose anyone know an answer to this?
Cheers
Seansmit17 said:
So, im trying to find out how the X10 has its ram etc set out.
Is it a 256mb chip for ram, a 128mb chip for graphics and then a 1gb chip for the OS and user data?
Or is it just 1 1.5/2GB chip that is partitioned into sections for ram, os, userdata etc.
Dose anyone know an answer to this?
Cheers
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For the memory
$ cat /proc/iomem
03000000-031fffff : kgsl_phys_memory
03000000-031fffff : kgsl
20000000-2dffffff : System RAM
2002b000-20488fff : Kernel text
2048a000-205c2c9b : Kernel data
30000000-37efffff : System RAM
37fe0000-37ffffff : ram_console
a0000000-a001ffff : kgsl_reg_memory
a0300000-a0300fff : msm_sdcc.1
a0400000-a0400fff : msm_sdcc.2
a0700000-a0700004 : audio_base_addr
a0800000-a08003ff : msm_hsusb_periphera
a0900000-a0900fff : msm_serial_hs.1
a0a00000-a0a007ff : msm_nand_phys
a1200000-a1200fff : spi_base
a1200000-a1200fff : spi_qsd
a9900000-a9900fff : msm_i2c.0
a9900000-a9900fff : msm_i2c
a9a00000-a9a00fff : msm_serial.0
a9a00000-a9a00fff : msm_serial
aa200000-aa2effff : mdp
aa300000-aa300fff : tssc
aa400000-aa400fff : tvenc
aa600000-aa600fff : pmdh
aa700000-aa700fff : emdh
Ciao Angelo
Soo, its all one chip then...
Hmmmm.... If that is the case would it not be posssible to change things a little and lose some space for user data and use it to give the X10 512mb of ram?
Seansmit17 said:
Soo, its all one chip then...
Hmmmm.... If that is the case would it not be posssible to change things a little and lose some space for user data and use it to give the X10 512mb of ram?
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No, we have
20000000-2dffffff : System RAM 234881023 B (223 MB)
30000000-37efffff : System RAM 133169151 B (126 MB)
and
37fe0000-37ffffff : ram_console 131072 B (128 KB)
Ciao Angelo
ardf69 said:
No, we have
20000000-2dffffff : System RAM 234881023 B (223 MB)
30000000-37efffff : System RAM 133169151 B (126 MB)
and
37fe0000-37ffffff : ram_console 131072 B (128 KB)
Ciao Angelo
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Ok but you still not said.. yes its one chip or no its more than 1 chip.
But i find it ard to belive that SE would put in a 128mb chip, a 256mb and a tiny 128k chip lol
Could someone who knows pleas just post straight up the RAM e.g. 512mb with 128mb for graphics and 384mb for user??? or is it 256mb plus 128mb for graphics equaling 384mb RAM???
Hmm, I'm wondering what the problem is - remember that the X10 has 384MB of RAM. Just checking on my VMware host that runs Ubuntu and the 64bit version of Firefox (the app with the largest resident memory usage - apart from VMware VM's of course) only uses 31MB - so that's not even 10% of the available. Okay, I realise that firefox also uses a shedload of virtual too - but the question remains - what exactly is it in Gingerbread that suddenly needs the same minimum RAM as Windows XP does/did?
If it's not a single system image that's causing the problem, then what's wrong with paging to SD (yes, I know "it's slow stupid!" is high up the reasons)? Surely if paging to SD is permitted then it'd be relatively straightforward to provide a system setting that allowed a portion of the SD card to be reserved. These days you can get a relatively speedy (10MB/s min) Class 10 uSD card for about £27 (US$40) from Amazon, (8GB Kingmax if anyone's interesteD), and I'm guessing that there's probably not 100's of MB to be paged. In which case surely this is doable - especially if you're using a relatively modern, clever paging algorithm.
Just strikes me as a little strange that Google - with all the high-powered talent that they've got - couldn't figure a way to get their "latest and greatest" working on more of the current devices out there in Android land. Don't forget that there's other phones out there with the same or less internal memory than the X10 - e.g. Samsung Galaxy Portal, HTC Hero; Wildfire; and Legend, Motorola Milestone/Droid, and I'm sure a more detailed search could show others.
RAM: 384MB
ROM+Storage: 1GB (SLC)
Video: ?MB is a AMD Z430, like google nexus one, htc desire and htc hd2
Ram and Rom are not the same chip
The X10 has 256 MB RAM and 128 MB for graphics.
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I thought that the Virtual Memory of the Xperia x10 is shared for both RAM and VRAM?!? Now I am confused a little bit more...
https://twitter.com/SonyEricssonNA
Yes, SonyEricsson Answered to me. The Xperia has 384 MB of RAM.
mymagicmyhero said:
I thought that the Virtual Memory of the Xperia x10 is shared for both RAM and VRAM?!? Now I am confused a little bit more...
https://twitter.com/SonyEricssonNA
Yes, SonyEricsson Answered to me. The Xperia has 384 MB of RAM.
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yeah we know. 256MB RAM and 128MB VRAM
Seansmit17 said:
yeah we know. 256MB RAM and 128MB VRAM
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No, the memory and the fb memory are separated. If you see /proc/iomem we have
(256 MB)
0x20000000-0x2dffffff 224 MB RAM
0x2e000000-0x2fffffff 32 MB ?????? NOT MAPPED, WHY?
(128 MB)
0x30000000-0x37efffff 127 MB
0x37f00000-0x37ffffff 128 KB
while with dmesg you can read that fb memory is
<6>[ 2.152940] msm_fb_probe: phy_Addr = 0x2b00000 virt = 0x98800000
<6>[ 2.154160] MDP HW Base phy_Address = 0xaa200000 virt = 0x98200000
<6>[ 2.155446] primary mddi base phy_addr = 0xaa600000 virt = 0x98014000
Ciao Angelo
I AM NOT TRYING TO TROLL!!!! THIS IS A LEGIT QUESTION!!!
Ok so I got the Xoom and love it. Nice speed good UI and everything. Now I have noticed something unusual but has not be brought up and I don't know if its because I am going crazy or if it is infact Honeycomb "holding back."
If you look on the specs for the Xoom it states you have 1gb of RAM built into the device. Now if you go under Settings and into Applications and so forth to look up how much each app is using memory/RAM wise it shows 512mb. Now I understand some can be reserved for OS usage but isn't that what "Google Services" are on that bar?
Just trying to see if maybe they are really dedicating 512mb for the OS (which I think is insane!) or if that Honeycomb is actually not taking advantage of its full 1gb RAM.
If you don't believe me go to Verizon Wireless's site and look at the spec at the bottom of the page for the Xoom. 1GB ram is sitting right there.
Not trying to start a conspiracy or stir the pot or even troll. Just trying to wonder where that other 512mb is actually going to!
You should probably put the question in the thread title... People who might be able to help you will only skip these arbitrary, general titles that have nothing to to with the actual question.
I checked and it only shows 512 MB but that's only accounting for storage. I'm sure the other half is reserved for different purposes like the OS.
here's from my xoom right now:
Code:
bash-3.2# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 736512 kB
MemFree: 117164 kB
Buffers: 71468 kB
Cached: 198068 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 287424 kB
Inactive: 241136 kB
Active(anon): 142840 kB
Inactive(anon): 117100 kB
Active(file): 144584 kB
Inactive(file): 124036 kB
Unevictable: 296 kB
Mlocked: 0 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 736512 kB
LowFree: 117164 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
Dirty: 12 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 259320 kB
Mapped: 56912 kB
Shmem: 620 kB
Slab: 23636 kB
SReclaimable: 12116 kB
SUnreclaim: 11520 kB
KernelStack: 5416 kB
PageTables: 12496 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 368256 kB
Committed_AS: 5581780 kB
VmallocTotal: 122880 kB
VmallocUsed: 60472 kB
VmallocChunk: 12292 kB
Thats exactly what was I was thinking maybe the 512mb is reserved for the OS services. But what confuses me the most if that is the case why so much RAM dedicated to that? I mean with the current ports it doesnt have that "vanishing" RAM but I do understand those are simply ports of HoneyComb and not the actual OS
Am I really the only one who thinks 512mb for reserving for OS processes is a little extreme?
Also how do I change the title of the thread Sorry just don't know hwo to do that on here since I really don't post much I am just a reader
Video ram probably takes a chunk. If you ever hit that 512 limit, let me know.
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Video ram probably takes a chunk. If you ever hit that 512 limit, let me know.
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Ya I am not saying I will ever hit the current 512mb limit I am just curious as to why. Also if a chunk of it is for video then why have a dedicated Tegra chip? Wasn't that to basically "take the brunt" of the video processing needed.
Keep in mind I am not trying to prove someone wrong or say your facts are wrong, I am just saying this is very unusual and just trying to find out why exactly. True it could be one of those that is the way they made it but isn't anyone else even curious?
I don't want to be like an old man standing at a self-checkout register looking amazed because its "magic" lol
Handshake87 said:
Ya I am not saying I will ever hit the current 512mb limit I am just curious as to why. Also if a chunk of it is for video then why have a dedicated Tegra chip? Wasn't that to basically "take the brunt" of the video processing needed.
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The GPU needs memory to function. Ever noticed on a notebook with integrated graphics, there's a chunk of RAM unavailable? Same thing here--the GPU doesn't have its own dedicated RAM, it shares RAM with the CPU.
In the memory dump above, you'll notice around 740MB available right from the start. One can assume that the other 260MB or so has been allocated to the GPU. Then, some of the 740MB is allocated to the OS, and the rest is available for apps.
My numbers aren't precise (no time to do the real math), but I think the principle's sound.
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Also how do I change the title of the thread Sorry just don't know hwo to do that on here since I really don't post much I am just a reader
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You can edit your post then go to advanced. There you should be able to edit everything. Glad that people can help you out. I never wondered about the RAM since it's running smooth!
I have noticed the same thing on my 2 xooms (swapped one out due to defect) using the system monitor app from the market. My inspire 4g with 768m shows 400mb free on a fresh boot while the xoom I have never seen with more than 320 . I guess it reserves it for video, like how the galaxy S's have 512 but 128 reserved by video at all times.
It is reserved for the os because Honeycomb is newborn so google is still working to reduce the amount of the os. Right now I only have 365 mb free. But android os is smart enough like we all know it'll shift the unused one to the app that is using it. So why bother?
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