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alright so i have the 8525 from ATT and i upgraded it to WM6 about a month ago. it goes really slow and i just cant handle it anymore, is there a way to get the performance back? if need be, how do i take everything off my phone to get it back to how it comes from ATT.
any help is appreciated
are you using a cooked rom or an operator shipped rom?
i really dont know, i got it from
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=69&Itemid=26
i dont know what the difference is. gotta take baby steps with me lol
I think those are all cooked ROMs. I've always used to OEM AT&T WM6 ROM that came out, and it has always been really fast and stable.
well how do i make mine fast? lol it takes like 6 seconds to pull up the text messages or other programs...
or is there a newer better WM6? i have the rom vp3G 3.62.3 and radio 1.40.30.00
there's been plenty newer roms since then.......see the hermes mobile 6 forums, u just gonna have to try them out until you find the "perfect" one. or you can just keep trying flashing some of us addicts here
Try Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL.
Very fast and very stable. Love it
a few more questions for you guys..
what does an updated radio do? how does it help the phone? can any radio go with any rom?
Is there a list somewhere which includes all the differences between the different UK versions of the phone (e.g. unbranded, Vodafone, O2, T-Mobile)? I'm particularly interested in differences between the non-branded and T-Mobile versions. For example, I heard that the T-Mobile version has the YouTube client application removed - is that true?
This would be nice as O2 apparently have removed the Wifi router application. (can this be added back in with a cab file?)
I see no reason why 02 should.... all these mobile price plans have 'fair usage allowances' in them so all they need to do is make them clear and they can charge what they like for people abusing the wifi router capability at their own will...
Thats probably one of the best features for their business users anyway!
T-Mobile do infact block YouTube on mobiles as far as I know.
I think the Vodafone ROM is just the stock HTC ROM (from what I have been told).
madindehead said:
T-Mobile do infact block YouTube on mobiles as far as I know.
I think the Vodafone ROM is just the stock HTC ROM (from what I have been told).
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They certainly don't block them here. I'm sure we'd hear about it if they did though.
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I have the T-mobile version of the HD2 and the youtube application has in fact been removed from the rom which i am really disappointed about. just have to wait for a Hard SPL to come out, then im gonna start cooking and wont have this problem
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I have the T-mobile version of the HD2 and the youtube application has in fact been removed from the rom which i am really disappointed about. just have to wait for a Hard SPL to come out, then im gonna start cooking and wont have this problem
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and where did your handset come from ?? internet shop or tmobile direct ?
Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!
Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
Cheers
I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!
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can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
Double post pls discard
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?
Just a quick one.
I updated my o2 locked hd2 to 1.48 fw. Is there anyway of reverting back to the stock rom that the hd2 came with? (o2 one complete with o2 splash screen etc)
Or is it the point of no return now?
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Just a quick one.
I updated my o2 locked hd2 to 1.48 fw. Is there anyway of reverting back to the stock rom that the hd2 came with?
Or is it the point of no return now?
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I would assume you can use the same method you used to upgrade your rom (goldcard?) to downgrade it back to the original rom if you need to.
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I would assume you can use the same method you used to upgrade your rom (goldcard?) to downgrade it back to the original rom if you need to.
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Yeah did use the goldcard method to upgrade.
Not sure if you can do the same to revert back though.
Can I ask why you want to? Is the newer ROM worse in some areas, or do you just want the O2 branding back?
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Can I ask why you want to? Is the newer ROM worse in some areas, or do you just want the O2 branding back?
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Well im thinking of sending it back to o2 as im still within my 14 days.
Would need the o2 branding back on it though otherwise i dont think i would get away with sending it back and saying i didnt want it. (or would i get away with it if they noticed and i played dumb )
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Well im thinking of sending it back to o2 as im still within my 14 days.
Would need the o2 branding back on it though otherwise i dont think i would get away with sending it back and saying i didnt want it. (or would i get away with it if they noticed and i played dumb )
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Hmm. well they would probably not notice.....but then I obviously can't promise that! Was there a particular fault which made you want to try a newer ROM...and you still weren't happy? Or are you just wanting a different handset....
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Hmm. well they would probably not notice.....but then I obviously can't promise that! Was there a particular fault which made you want to try a newer ROM...and you still weren't happy? Or are you just wanting a different handset....
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Just want another handset. I have no real complaints with the HD2 but i just havent got the time these days to mess and tweak with the phone to get it how i want it. (got a 6 week baby girl here taking up all my time)
I came from an iphone and i primarily used that for web, media and plenty of texting. I didnt really use the app store that much.
In the above areas the HD2 just doesnt cut it for me. Web, sms and media are just far better on the iphone imo. Everything else about the hd2 is fantastic and im glad i got it to experience winmo but at the end of the day for my needs i'll prob just go back to the iphone or perhaps get an android device!
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Just want another handset. I have no real complaints with the HD2 but i just havent got the time these days to mess and tweak with the phone to get it how i want it. (got a 6 week baby girl here taking up all my time)
I came from an iphone and i primarily used that for web, media and plenty of texting. I didnt really use the app store that much.
In the above areas the HD2 just doesnt cut it for me. Web, sms and media are just far better on the iphone imo. Everything else about the hd2 is fantastic and im glad i got it to experience winmo but at the end of the day for my needs i'll prob just go back to the iphone or perhaps get an android device!
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Fair enough, thanks for sharing.
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Can I ask why you want to? Is the newer ROM worse in some areas, or do you just want the O2 branding back?
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Is there any way I could do that? Never experienced the SMS problem with my stock 1.43, I find 1.48 has many bugs that on 1.43 I never experienced.
So is there any chance of doing that?
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Is there any way I could do that? Never experienced the SMS problem with my stock 1.43, I find 1.48 has many bugs that on 1.43 I never experienced.
So is there any chance of doing that?
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There is but someone would have to post a link to the 1.43 ROM. I am sure it is somewhere...
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There is but someone would have to post a link to the 1.43 ROM. I am sure it is somewhere...
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Problem is many 1.43 are cursed with the same bugs I'm experiencing with 1.48.
My stock 1.43 was flawless, it simply worked as it should.
Damn, why did I upgrade to this ROM
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Problem is many 1.43 are cursed with the same bugs I'm experiencing with 1.48.
My stock 1.43 was flawless, it simply worked as it should.
Damn, why did I upgrade to this ROM
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Well the 1.43 roms are available via this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717
I know that wont put my o2 branding back on it. What you reckon? Revert back to 1.43 send it back to o2 and then play dumb if they try and say ive messed with it? Like (to o2 rep) "mine never had a splash screen on startup, so ive no idea why you would accuse me of altering the device"
have to say i`v been toying with the idea of flashing my phone with upgrade using the goldcard method(i`m on tmobile stock 1.43) due to tmobile removing certain apps on the phone, but keep hearing a lot of problems with 1.48. isnt an upgrade supposed to improve things not make things worse??? lol i have absolutely no major issues with the tmobile stock rom. to be honest it runs flawlessly and smoothly. the only issue i`v had is the pinkish colour on camera but with the hotfix its solved. also i havent read alot of problems coming from people on tmobile either. are the guys behind the scenes doing the testing an tweaking/branding at tmobile on top of ther job maybe?????... Mmmmmmmm. obviously ther seems to be certain issues with the phone that are out of tmobiles hands, i just havent heard many tmobile customers complaining about much, the youtube app yeah, but thats about it. anyways think i`l be leaving upgrade for now lol. if something isnt broke, why fix it?
Hey all, just checked the stickies and wiki 1st as since I just got the new Tmobile USA HD2 I want to see what is the best path to go.
I checked 1st for the hard spl, but says 1024 rom from tmobile not supported? Im assuming that means mine? Since the flash size is 1024. Am I correct?
Basically I am curious. The custom roms, do they have all the features tmobile gave it? Mobitv, Blockbuster, GPS map etc.
Mainly I wouldnt mind trying to get Linux on here, Android or a better Windows mobile rom.
Im used to which builds I like from other htc phones.. but everytime I get a new one Its ton of reading for me. Issue tho in this case, I dont know if there is a hardspl or cid unlock yet. So dont wanna go in guns blazing and trying things.
Anyone have any info for me on whats up or where to start? Or IS there even a start for the tmobile one yet? I was so excited about it I had to get it at launch. =D
Also can these things Dual Boot? =) Thanks for any info, didnt see these covered on the sticky yet, so thats why im asking.
SPL - 2.08 is my spl for it.
grats on your lovely new toy, but no hspl for it yet. You will have to wait!
yes they can dual boot, but no android for a while.
many of the roms will have the same things as yours, there is no compatibility problems, you just can't flash yet.
just get to know your phone, and by the time hspl1024 is ready you'll be in a great position to tweak to your hearts content.
I do have one question. I KNOW my G1 just got crippled when they switched my data to the smartphone package. I just changed back to have the adroid one. Now I KNOW Iphones can use the internet2.voicestream setting from a G1 plan.
Anyone know what internet features youd LOSE by using a Android plan on the HD2? If any? I dont like the idea of switching back and forth data plans basically heh.
Arg now im more confused.. On the T-Mobile website it says this. 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM, So is that not hardspl? Or is that still a 1024 rom? Im confused..