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It seems the beta has leaked. In rafael section of the forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474406 is a kitchen made. Any cooker tested/ported this beta on Polaris?
Great news!
Hope someone can port it to Polaris soon!
good news indeed. Hopefully it will make the phone a bit quicker.
Wow, I mean... WOW!
I read that our Polaris colleague chavonbravo has knocked up a ROM based on the 6.5 code and flashed the software to his device. Seems that there are a few problems and not much improvement. Remembering these are very early beta versions, and this one in particular was already customised for another device, I doubt we will get any reliable indication for some time yet as to how good 6.5 is.
i think we have just to wait for someone who share a cooked rom based on win 6.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3208687&postcount=28
So what's new in 6.5 over 6.1? Is there a change-log or at least a list of new features.
All i could find is IE8 instead of IE6 and better support for finger navigation
And a green-ish theme
Supposedly, 6.5 should contain a 'cloud service', allowing you to synchronize all sorts of items 'on the go'.
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Supposedly, 6.5 should contain a 'cloud service', allowing you to synchronize all sorts of items 'on the go'.
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don't they already have LiveMesh for that?
LiveMesh is the basis for this, obviously. They´re buillding dozens of services on the basis of Mesh.
I agree, WM 6.5 isn´t much of an improvement at the moment. But I´m sure this will change, as the leaked honey-comb design is confirmed.
Maybe wait for the next builds, the iPhone rip-off lockscreen, the new todayscreen (based on WM 6.1 Standards one.....) and the new scrolling method (also iPhone-like...) are not worth the efforts !!!!
I'm trying to do a porting ROM for Polaris of the Blue Angel & Raphael ones.
I hope i will work...
1st try : missed
==> not booting
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I'm trying to do a porting ROM for Polaris of the Blue Angel & Raphael ones.
I hope i will work...
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Good Luck!
Is anyone working on a WM6.5 Rom? There exists a 6.5 rom for kaiser and they say it's fast as hell!
I'll try as soon as I will have a little time (maybe from middle week) with the base of the Kaiser.
does anyone have screenshots they can post?
Nevermind
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/12/windows-mobile-6-5-screenshots-have-a-little-zune-in-em/
I suppose we are all waiting to hear about the new WM6.5.
I have read somewhere about a "Sky..." services, a service which will try to run against the "MobileMe" of Apple's.
Will all have just to wait and see ...
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I'll try as soon as I will have a little time (maybe from middle week) with the base of the Kaiser.
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I try today, for hours, but I didn't success in it
I'll try another time on the week.
Maybe asking help on kaiser thread . good luck .
also is bricking the phone recoverable or must sent back to manufacturer? i lived in the u.s.
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also is bricking the phone recoverable or must sent back to manufacturer? i lived in the u.s.
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If you actually brick the phone it means you cannot use it ever, won't even turn on i.e. its as much use as a brick!! All you can do is return it.
Are you experiencing problems with your phone? Or are you just worried that you may brick phone if you flash to new rom?
If latter follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide in my signature and you'll be fine. As long as you use USPL or HSPL I'm 99.99% sure you won't brick phone.
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i lived in the u.s.
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you are fortunate to have escaped out then!
You generally have to do something pretty dumb to brick your phone to get it into a non-usable state. Most things you'll be able to do with standard flashing tools is bung up a firmware upgrade ( and you start again ). The chances of blowing away the boot loader, are smaller - but if you follow the instructions and don't pull the cable out while its doing stuff, then you'll have no worries.
for me, 6.5 flys and I'll not be going back now to 6.1 i fear. I use minimal ROMS where available as I never use facebook and half the other crap that bloats most of them.
I went back and forth quite alot between 6.1 and 6.5 and finally settled on 6.5 after much personal testing I find 6.5 to be better/perhaps faster and even sharper, clearer screen shots of everything especially noticable in emails. I'll be stickin' with 6.5. Don't care much for the wm default titanium thing tho...jmo
I've had 6.5 for a few months (fast & stable) and don't plan to go backword to 6.1!
sucess on upgrading to miri 6.5 v16.1
one problem now is i cannot play any of the youtube site videos and... i'm looking for this theme that widgetkid on youtube was running... anybody know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOFw19ec0o
Not to open a new topic, is HTC intend to release a new official rom based on WM 6.5?
AFAIK (from multitue of WM/HTC forums) Probabely Not
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Not to open a new topic, is HTC intend to release a new official rom based on WM 6.5?
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No - HTC will not provide official ROM updates to 6.5 for the Touch HD!
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No - HTC will not provide official ROM updates to 6.5 for the Touch HD!
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Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part. Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part. Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Aside from encouraging you to upgrade to the new shiny model (which is the main driver), manufacturers have to pay licensing costs to Microsoft for each version of WM (just as you would for a desktop Windows upgrade). So it would cost them money to make it available retrospectively for existing phones when they have already paid for the 6.1 licence. It was made fairly clear by HTC and most other manufacturers that 6.5 would only be made available with newly released devices after the WM6.5 launch.
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Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part.
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Yepp, I'm pretty sure that's the reason...
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Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Even if we already use WM6.5 because the great cooks on this forum have provided us with it - it still makes sense for HTC not to offer official upgrades for two reasons:
1. With no official upgrades, we void our warrenty using cooked ROMs. In a worst case scenario they could refuse any support on a damaged item running 6.5.
2. They don't have to offer any support (online, mail, website) for 6.5.
EDIT: For proof of number 1, read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3907598&postcount=5
galaxys said:
I've had 6.5 for a few months (fast & stable) and don't plan to go backword to 6.1!
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So which is the most stable 6.5? I tried a couple but I keep having to reboot my phone to get out of crashes and so miss a lot of calls. For me, speed is essential but stability is precious!
Thanks!
Abram said:
So which is the most stable 6.5? I tried a couple but I keep having to reboot my phone to get out of crashes and so miss a lot of calls. For me, speed is essential but stability is precious!
Thanks!
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Well in my case i tried almost all the 6.5 roms and my favorites were lost in asia and miri v17 i feel both are stable and faster than the 6.1 htc rom
honestly if u want stable, dont use a beta rom ...
btw if you bricked it, i doubt they will restore right ? since u r "not" suppose to do so
leobox1 said:
honestly if u want stable, dont use a beta rom ...
btw if you bricked it, i doubt they will restore right ? since u r "not" suppose to do so
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Well, not to be picky, there are stable (lifting off the cover every 30 minutes) and there are stable (using the reset software once or twice a day). Yes, even for beta which is what they all are. I know which stable even you will choose.
On this website (ducth) is stated that there is no update to WM 6.5 coming anymore for the X1. :-(
See here http://nl.babelfish.yahoo.com/trans...ows-mobile-65.html&lp=nl_en&btnTrUrl=Vertalen for translation into english
Sad situation isn't it?
But hopefully the great chefs here at XDA will cook some wonderful ROM's out of the X2
There are already plenty of custom ROMs out there based on WM6.5. Don't see why we still the X2's ROM if you're just looking at WM6.5.
Sad situation isn't it?
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Not really, stock rom usualy sucks so custom are better.
And that is like 100th thread about there will be no update.
We already have a ROM from the X2. Look in the ROM section.
Stock ROMs tend to have less new features, but have less bugs and are more stable. Especially as things progress it is best to have a 6.5 stock rom for drivers instead of using the drivers from another device. So yes, it is sad that Sony stopped supporting the X1.
Do someone know when HTC will give out a new htc hd (blackstone) rom? maybe with colour Manila TAB. or something like that.
Because the stock rom is the fastest and most stabile ROM, I think! BUT not a pretty ROM, like the Manila 2.5 and W6.5**. It just need a OVERHAUL!
I think we can have W6.1 with... Manila 2.4 maybe hehe. not as fancy but cooler then Manila 2.1
LET's press the HTC, because they think everyone ****t money to buy a new device every month or week!
im happy with my HTC HD, but i think HTC has forget about us old-device-user! and they come out with upgrade to other "new" devices, but i want somthing to, somthing cool. and if xda and our worlds best developers can, then the htc company with the tecnologi can do it to! wtf i think, crapy done by htc! i have sent 1000 of mails too them and they keep say " dont know" then why do u work at support for god f###.. or? feks. the stock HD ROM have the ugly keybord, i want the new one on a stock rom.. so!
Sorry for my english =P but u guys understand what i meen!
Good Luck with that - Whilst I share your frustration that those who keep faith with Stock ROMs aren't rewarded with updates, the fact is that with the sheer amount of devices that HTC currently release year on year, the odds that some of it's back catalogue will get any such update are quite small.
I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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Me too ....... I really would appreciate some stock rom, that would have qualities of Duttys rom with Co0kie Home Tab and CHTEditor versatility.
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Me too ....... I really would appreciate some stock rom, that would have qualities of Duttys rom with Co0kie Home Tab and CHTEditor versatility.
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thats what I really mean!! Stock rom with qualities of our chief would be the best for HTC HD Cheers!
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Good Luck with that - Whilst I share your frustration that those who keep faith with Stock ROMs aren't rewarded with updates, the fact is that with the sheer amount of devices that HTC currently release year on year, the odds that some of it's back catalogue will get any such update are quite small.
I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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I have flashed xda cooked ROM, but our chiefs have stoped building ROMS with WM6.1, and manilla 2.1. And I prefer the speed and the stability of the WM6.1 and manilla 2.1.
Answer is no, and that is just the nature of business
There are too many new devices out there that they are focusing on (and still have issues), just to name a few, HD2, Nexus One, Desire...
Actually I don't mind them doing so, but at least make it easier for outsiders to access info on older chipsets (MSM), which to me is the main hurdle to maximize performance on the phones.
hatkeeper said:
Answer is no, and that is just the nature of business
There are too many new devices out there that they are focusing on (and still have issues), just to name a few, HD2, Nexus One, Desire...
Actually I don't mind them doing so, but at least make it easier for outsiders to access info on older chipsets (MSM), which to me is the main hurdle to maximize performance on the phones.
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ok, ur right now as i thinking, but.. WHY! do everyone want WM6.5? is stil laggy after some use, at the begining its WOW cool and fast, stable, but after 2-3 weeks its starts to be slow. so, why not make the 6.1 even better and faster + new design ( manila 2.5) tabs? the rest dont have to be as "cool" as htc hd2 (leo) i allways use the kwbr topix rom, but im dont going from his rom topix 3.5 wwe =D anyway, his new rom topix 3.6 or somthing, is it wm 6.1 or 6.5? heh
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ok, ur right now as i thinking, but.. WHY! do everyone want WM6.5? is stil laggy after some use, at the begining its WOW cool and fast, stable, but after 2-3 weeks its starts to be slow. so, why not make the 6.1 even better and faster + new design ( manila 2.5) tabs? the rest dont have to be as "cool" as htc hd2 (leo) i allways use the kwbr topix rom, but im dont going from his rom topix 3.5 wwe =D anyway, his new rom topix 3.6 or somthing, is it wm 6.1 or 6.5? heh
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u know why? because it takes effort to do software development, you need more people to support two platforms than one. It would have been nice if htc just upgrade/tweak manila 2.1 to 2.5. but from general use, you know that's not the case, as they behave differently (functionality is the same).
So why is this decision made? Could be many reasons, maybe feature, flexibility wise, 2.1 is just not good enough for the future, who knows?
For sure htc is not going to work on 2.1 & 2.5 to acheive the same goal, even though its for different phones, sadly in this industry the upgrade cycle is 6 months to 1 year (just like computers). I am not try to bash on the company, but take a guess which htc phone is at top quality in user experience (hardware & software) at release, and have good upgrades/support after 2 years. When you hang around xda long enough, you will know
ok, i understand now! HTC HD is dead. the company is thinkig about new phones. but if ill buy HTC Desire HD, do i have to keep installing coocked rom's frome here? The HTC Desire is not getting the "new" htc sense, ( htcsense.com) why? its so lalala stupid, look at the xp,vista and win 7. only new design, but u still have internett explorer and other stuff, i dont care about the design, only about nice updats.
thats why i dont like htc loonger, the forget about our phone after 5 months.
Pff, it's useless asking for updates for old HTC devices. They launch a dozen of phones every year. Their goal is to sell the new devices and earn money, not update the old ones for free. I use HTC Touch HD and i haven't seen any official updates on their site, except for some bug fixes and an official ROM which does nothing more than my preinstalled ROM. Haven't checked the updates for other HTC devices, but it's obviously they didn't give a damn about HTC Touch HD immediately after its release.
Hey guys,
does anyone have a stock rom of the latest winmo?
I've upgraded to the latest UK O2 Rom, 1.72 but I'd like the new UI with the larger buttons, i've started to get my claw of a hand round my HD2 but hitting small little buttons is a bit difficult. So if someone knows where there is a Stock Rom i'd be really appreciative.
Many Thanks,
Luke.
There is no 6.5.x stock ROM now....
HTC support has always sucked at providing the latest software for their handsets.
There is a WM6.5.X stock ROM...but it is not for Leo. I think you can stuck with just WM6.5 ROMs, unless you want to flash a kooked ROM, which is usually far better than a stock ROM.
personalment I think that the stock roms are better than any cooked rom, every single cooked rom that I've tried have some errors or bug and I have tried almost all vercions
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personalment I think that the stock roms are better than any cooked rom, every single cooked rom that I've tried have some errors or bug and I have tried almost all vercions
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very true... you sums up almost everything. the only addition to your comments is that the stock roms suck too... and there is virtually no moving behind after you try some of the cooked roms... unfortunately there is so many chefs but no one concentrate on developing a stable release.
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personalment I think that the stock roms are better than any cooked rom, every single cooked rom that I've tried have some errors or bug and I have tried almost all vercions
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Yeah, agreed. Cooked ROMs are fun to play around with, but in the long run my experience has been you get better stability and battery life from HTC's own ROMs. Some of the stuff from telcos like Vodafone and T-Mobile seems really bad, but the clean ROMs straight from HTC have been the best in my experience.
Sadly though, doesn't seem like HTC is doing anything on the HD2 anymore. Anyone ask them about the next ROM update and whether it might be 6.5.x? It's been basically four months since the last update... I really hope 6.5.x is being planned for the HD2. I never expected the HD2 to be upgradeable to WP7, but they have to give it 6.5.x at least especially since it doesn't look like HTC will have any other flagship WM devices until WP7.
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very true... you sums up almost everything. the only addition to your comments is that the stock roms suck too... and there is virtually no moving behind after you try some of the cooked roms... unfortunately there is so many chefs but no one concentrate on developing a stable release.
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Actually they are all pretty stable, it is more likely the 20 incompatible apps you install and expect to work. Why not give feedback to the chefs about these issues.
Dont forget that to port an OS not designed for a particular device and also make work any OEM UI etc is no easy task, its never going to be perfect (and there's no such thing as perfect in any OS, UI, device) Even if there is a stock WM6.5.x the cooked ROMs will still far excell the stock ROM.
Personally I cook my own ROMs that way I can customize it just how I want, if you think you can do a better job than the other chefs by concentrating on stability then why not learn to cook yourself.
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personalment I think that the stock roms are better than any cooked rom, every single cooked rom that I've tried have some errors or bug and I have tried almost all vercions
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What a load of bollocks and what a useless thread, better closed MODs imo.
Yup mods are tons in Leo, and yet this thread is still open!?
Why would you close this thread? I know cooked ROMs are really popular, but is there something wrong with having a different opinion?
well I think that we have freedom of give our opinions about it, I respect what you say, but to me does not interest me if the cooked roms are 6.5 or 6.5.x , i dont care about how fast it is, or memory or consumption batery, if they are out of errors or bugs, i think that all roms are sufficiently fast.
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Actually they are all pretty stable, it is more likely the 20 incompatible apps you install and expect to work. Why not give feedback to the chefs about these issues.
Dont forget that to port an OS not designed for a particular device and also make work any OEM UI etc is no easy task, its never going to be perfect (and there's no such thing as perfect in any OS, UI, device) Even if there is a stock WM6.5.x the cooked ROMs will still far excell the stock ROM.
Personally I cook my own ROMs that way I can customize it just how I want, if you think you can do a better job than the other chefs by concentrating on stability then why not learn to cook yourself.
What a load of bollocks and what a useless thread, better closed MODs imo.
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hey, and i dnt knw if this is what you mean
but there is a clean win mo 6.5.3 rom out by l3v5y.
HOWEVER, it is a COOKED rom BUT comes in 3 "flavours"
there is a simple win mo 6.5.3 rom no sense ui...which is what i think your after
theres a lite and a full version (with htc sense)
i'd post the link but XDA is stopping me because im a new user
so try
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hpe it helps
i've tried almost all of the cooked roms and though there are some fantastic features above and beyond what you get from stock rom, there is allways a bug or 2 that dissappoint.
and no, i don't have 20 or so incompatible apps. in fact i don't install anything until i'm happy that the rom is stable enough (which it never is).
despite that, i have much respect for all the cooks! this place wouldn;t be here if it wasn't for them!!
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Actually they are all pretty stable, it is more likely the 20 incompatible apps you install and expect to work. Why not give feedback to the chefs about these issues.
Dont forget that to port an OS not designed for a particular device and also make work any OEM UI etc is no easy task, its never going to be perfect (and there's no such thing as perfect in any OS, UI, device) Even if there is a stock WM6.5.x the cooked ROMs will still far excell the stock ROM.
Personally I cook my own ROMs that way I can customize it just how I want, if you think you can do a better job than the other chefs by concentrating on stability then why not learn to cook yourself.
What a load of bollocks and what a useless thread, better closed MODs imo.
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