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Official WM 6.1 upgrade for Touch ?

http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/01/microsoft-announces-windows-mobile-6-1-device-upgrades/

Yes.
Just follow the link:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01WM61PR.mspx

From the article:
Industry Embraces Windows Mobile 6.1
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• HTC: A new Touch Dual for the U.S. and updates for the AT&T Tilt, Touch by HTC, Mogul by HTC from Sprint, TyTN II
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Touch by HTC, so yes

Update
How and when can i update my device???

How: Via USB ... Ok ok, I think it will be same way we do now with the ROM upgrade utility, but probably packaged in some installer like most of the official upgrades.
When: 6.1 just got announced, its up to HTC and the mobile operators to decide when they release an upgrade.

Biffert said:
How: Via USB ... Ok ok, I think it will be same way we do now with the ROM upgrade utility, but probably packaged in some installer like most of the official upgrades.
When: 6.1 just got announced, its up to HTC and the mobile operators to decide when they release an upgrade.
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Ok, but is the releasing date soon or ...???

I think OR. I don't think that HTC can release official update for all devices in one week. Month. I think

N_urk said:
I think OR. I don't think that HTC can release official update for all devices in one week. Month. I think
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Ok, but is it going to be soon(for ELF)???

N_urk said:
Month. I think
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Nobody is really sure, read the post of N_urk, maybe read it twice. There is some info in there.

At Least I'm Running Custom Rom with WM 6.1 Pro already =D

custom cooked roms
Hi all,
I just bought a touch 1 gen ... i heard from a friend that it'll take awhile because HTC has a tendency to release it after they have marketed all their new 6.1 loaded devices ... i guess its their marketing strategy
meanwhile, can anyone tell me any interesting 6.1 Roms i can look at ... thanks.
lud

Wait wait wait......so we who own HTC Touch (GSM) have to wait for HTC to ship out the update? We just can't.....update?
Paul

wm 6.1 update
wow .. so basically the update wont be coming for a while ... does anybody know if the 6.1 roms are even worth putting on the device??

Doesn't seem like there's much in the 6.1 upgrade for WM-Pro users though, most changes are in the smartphone version.

I have it too
I use the customer WM6.1 Pro for HTC Touch, and I like it.. there ar a lot of flavors: lite and full, with more (or less) free ram for othr apps, etc.
http://www.comunidadwindowsmobile.es/index.php?action=forum

Whats the difference(s) between WM6 Pro and WM 6.1 anyway? I've done some reading on it but no where does it really say whats so different. I've even gone and looked at videos of it on youtube. Other then what looks like a new skin theme doesnt look like anything else really and I am sure theres more to it. Do you have finger gestures now built right into HTC home? Like swiping left to get to your schedual and what not? What about the HTC home... is that any different?
Here's what I've gotten so far:
Threaded SMS messages
New Internet Explorer
Runs a little smoother
But... whats the big WOW with the upgrade?
Thanks!

ok wm6.1 was in beta for awhile i think it still is but it has since been perfected and is released... but the only way to get it right now is using the customn roms which is way better then using any other rom found any where else trust me ive tried them all and cutoms the way to go!!
and the big wow is the fixed all the bugs in it the stopped the memory leak increased speed. made tit very stable, reduced the size of the os system it self also the did many different registery hacks and edits to make it much better, they added a prgram that is called getting started which helps with alot of stuf and it isnt just a step by step its a good program,
theres no new gestures like that but theres many programs that do that that can be added on such as spb shell 2.0 umm pointui and ultimate lauinch.... trust me its worth upgrading and ive had every system out there wm5.0 symbian wm6.0 and now 6.1 and now im working on making a wm7 like program but using 6.1 as a base

HTC WM 6.1
I have contacted hTC, the WM 6.1 update is not available yet, they are still working out the errors etc. but in a while, they would release the update.
check back http://www.asia.htc.com/asia/hk/index.html

I just leave a sign here so i can easily find it when there is updates.
Also cant just some forum member coock fimmware with all features of HTC for our HTC Touch Elf?

sala91 said:
I just leave a sign here so i can easily find it when there is updates.
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At the top, Thread Tools > Subscribe to this Thread.
I`m sorry for the offtopic.

Any Chance for Windows Mobile 6.5 on the Polaris?

Just as the title says. As Microsoft has just release Windows Mobile 6.5 is there any hope that we will get the improved UI to the Polaris?
May HTC even step up to the task themselves? They released 6.0 for a lot of 5.0 phones...
Or are there still cooks active on doing Polaris roms?

probably...yes...
check my Signature

pcarvalho said:
probably...yes...
check my Signature
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Great!!!!
The extremely instable it`s going stable??
Nice , nice to ear it!!!!

JVRSilva said:
Great!!!!
The extremely instable it`s going stable??
Nice , nice to ear it!!!!
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getting there...waiting for a full wm6.5 rom to come out and play

How does it feel in day by day use of the win6.5 interface ? Do we say goodbye to M2D ? Your creation is looking great!

pcarvalho said:
getting there...waiting for a full wm6.5 rom to come out and play
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Great news then!!!!!
Thanx for replying

Wow, the wm 6.5 looks very great for the moment!
I'm intrested in your advance!

fantastic!! i hope it will come soon!!!

feels normal...bit faster in some areas (scrolling)...slower in others(startmenu-the honeycomb-due to drivers as far as i've tested)...but overall its good...if you consider its a leak from chinese beta and seems to be incomplete...
i'm waiting for a better leak wm6.5, for now just finding how new things work and making them better (its gonna be goodbye honeycomb menu for me, at least this one, way slow for me )...

pcarvalho said:
probably...yes...
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awesome, really really awesome bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mais um à espera
Another one waiting

Nils8 said:
Just as the title says. As Microsoft has just release Windows Mobile 6.5 is there any hope that we will get the improved UI to the Polaris?
May HTC even step up to the task themselves? They released 6.0 for a lot of 5.0 phones...
Or are there still cooks active on doing Polaris roms?
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Windows Mobile 6.5 RTM will be released in April (see my post here for the details), so NO WM6.5 is not yet released, only beta (leaked) are available.
Concerning Windows Mobile 7 (planned to be released in November to testers), here is the list of partners announced here:
Acer
Asus
Birdstep Technology
Dell
Ericsson
HP
Fujitsu Siemens Computers
Huawei Communications Technologies
Option
Qualcomm
Sierra Wireless
Smith Micro
T-Mobile International
ZTE

pcarvalho said:
probably...yes...
check my Signature
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Good news ;-)

Arni06 said:
Windows Mobile 6.5 RTM will be released in April (see my post here for the details), so NO WM6.5 is not yet released, only beta (leaked) are available.
Concerning Windows Mobile 7 (planned to be released in November to testers), here is the list of partners announced here:
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I really do not know what the strategy is with launching 2 WM versions in such a short span of time. May be MS was just paranoid of losing market share to iPhone and Google - so it launched a band-aid solution until WM7 is launched?

Any attempt at 6.5 now is mainly for some chef to try and be all cool and be the first one to come out with 6.5 rom. I've tried it, and see no point in releasing something like this as it's buggy (beta) and in all truthfulness, 6.1 w/tf2d is better than 6.5 homescreen. The whole honeycomb screen is quite a waste of screenspace as well. It's all quite the gimick to me, and people would probably end up going back to another rom after a week of using a 6.5 beta rom anyways. The only good thing about 6.5 is the revamped IE.

chavonbravo said:
Any attempt at 6.5 now is mainly for some chef to try and be all cool and be the first one to come out with 6.5 rom. I've tried it, and see no point in releasing something like this as it's buggy (beta) and in all truthfulness, 6.1 w/tf2d is better than 6.5 homescreen. The whole honeycomb screen is quite a waste of screenspace as well. It's all quite the gimick to me, and people would probably end up going back to another rom after a week of using a 6.5 beta rom anyways. The only good thing about 6.5 is the revamped IE.
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being the first isn't all that bad i think...would you have some of the things you have now if someone didn't take the 1st step? think not!
yes, you are right, releasing such a rom is still very early, some have, and thanks to them people Now can taste a bit of the Future (some forget its very beta, so lots of bugs)...
i have to desagree, sorry , when you say...only good thing about 6.5 is IE...i would say more...who needs IE? haven't used it since i've had my device...opera or any other good browser (opera mini) is the way to go...
pc experience tells us so
now here are some of my findings...
the new homescreen has lots of potencial...its light and fast...got all the info one needs and only 45% of 101MB of RAM is used...plus it will be customizable (till its limit)...
there is more speed in the wm6.5 rom...or lets say less lagging in some areas...scrolls faster, i see that when i scroll my 4gb memory card using standard explorer...had to disable touchflo cause it was slowing the device down...
skinning of controls will bring a very nice add to customization...i personaly like that...plus they are more thumb friendly...
honeycomb wastes space "as is" but i have already rearranged it in multiple ways (X:Y; 4:Y; 1:Y just to name a few), i dont like it much but its okay...
only major problem here is its current speed that i hope will be better in final release...
its seems a good step ahead...one good thing...i haven't had that "oh, this is so slow" phrase yet as the (programs folder) is not there anymore...so no more laggy icon update...that is always nice...i have a nice fix for that (youtube) but now i will not put it out since 6.5 is comming so its delayed till further notice
there is also a very nice lockscreen too...
lets just see where this goes...
keep up the good work...

Arni06 said:
Windows Mobile 6.5 RTM will be released in April (see my post here for the details), so NO WM6.5 is not yet released, only beta (leaked) are available.
Concerning Windows Mobile 7 (planned to be released in November to testers), here is the list of partners announced here:
Acer
Asus
Birdstep Technology
Dell
Ericsson
HP
Fujitsu Siemens Computers
Huawei Communications Technologies
Option
Qualcomm
Sierra Wireless
Smith Micro
T-Mobile International
ZTE
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Hmmmm - no HTC I see.......
Punishment for bringing out an Android phone?

Sorry, didn't see your posts above that you were releasing a 6.5 rom. Hopefully with tweaks by someone knowledgable, the beta will be closer to decent. And you make good points that maybe more than just IE is good, but I'd still rather wait to base a rom on official 6.5

chavonbravo said:
Sorry, didn't see your posts above that you were releasing a 6.5 rom. Hopefully with tweaks by someone knowledgable, the beta will be closer to decent. And you make good points that maybe more than just IE is good, but I'd still rather wait to base a rom on official 6.5
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me to await an oficial rom to pop out, or at least a newer one, meanwhile i'll be playing with what i got and making it better
cheers

humble begger....
will you be letting the hd rom go in the days to come pcarvalho ?

6.1 or 6.5 faster ?

also is bricking the phone recoverable or must sent back to manufacturer? i lived in the u.s.

tommy96814 said:
also is bricking the phone recoverable or must sent back to manufacturer? i lived in the u.s.
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If you actually brick the phone it means you cannot use it ever, won't even turn on i.e. its as much use as a brick!! All you can do is return it.
Are you experiencing problems with your phone? Or are you just worried that you may brick phone if you flash to new rom?
If latter follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide in my signature and you'll be fine. As long as you use USPL or HSPL I'm 99.99% sure you won't brick phone.

tommy96814 said:
i lived in the u.s.
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you are fortunate to have escaped out then!
You generally have to do something pretty dumb to brick your phone to get it into a non-usable state. Most things you'll be able to do with standard flashing tools is bung up a firmware upgrade ( and you start again ). The chances of blowing away the boot loader, are smaller - but if you follow the instructions and don't pull the cable out while its doing stuff, then you'll have no worries.
for me, 6.5 flys and I'll not be going back now to 6.1 i fear. I use minimal ROMS where available as I never use facebook and half the other crap that bloats most of them.

I went back and forth quite alot between 6.1 and 6.5 and finally settled on 6.5 after much personal testing I find 6.5 to be better/perhaps faster and even sharper, clearer screen shots of everything especially noticable in emails. I'll be stickin' with 6.5. Don't care much for the wm default titanium thing tho...jmo

I've had 6.5 for a few months (fast & stable) and don't plan to go backword to 6.1!

sucess on upgrading to miri 6.5 v16.1
one problem now is i cannot play any of the youtube site videos and... i'm looking for this theme that widgetkid on youtube was running... anybody know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOFw19ec0o

Not to open a new topic, is HTC intend to release a new official rom based on WM 6.5?

AFAIK (from multitue of WM/HTC forums) Probabely Not

jankos said:
Not to open a new topic, is HTC intend to release a new official rom based on WM 6.5?
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No - HTC will not provide official ROM updates to 6.5 for the Touch HD!

MAMeingast said:
No - HTC will not provide official ROM updates to 6.5 for the Touch HD!
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Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part. Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.

cbreze said:
Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part. Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Aside from encouraging you to upgrade to the new shiny model (which is the main driver), manufacturers have to pay licensing costs to Microsoft for each version of WM (just as you would for a desktop Windows upgrade). So it would cost them money to make it available retrospectively for existing phones when they have already paid for the 6.1 licence. It was made fairly clear by HTC and most other manufacturers that 6.5 would only be made available with newly released devices after the WM6.5 launch.

cbreze said:
Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part.
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Yepp, I'm pretty sure that's the reason...
cbreze said:
Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Even if we already use WM6.5 because the great cooks on this forum have provided us with it - it still makes sense for HTC not to offer official upgrades for two reasons:
1. With no official upgrades, we void our warrenty using cooked ROMs. In a worst case scenario they could refuse any support on a damaged item running 6.5.
2. They don't have to offer any support (online, mail, website) for 6.5.
EDIT: For proof of number 1, read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3907598&postcount=5

galaxys said:
I've had 6.5 for a few months (fast & stable) and don't plan to go backword to 6.1!
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So which is the most stable 6.5? I tried a couple but I keep having to reboot my phone to get out of crashes and so miss a lot of calls. For me, speed is essential but stability is precious!
Thanks!

Abram said:
So which is the most stable 6.5? I tried a couple but I keep having to reboot my phone to get out of crashes and so miss a lot of calls. For me, speed is essential but stability is precious!
Thanks!
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Well in my case i tried almost all the 6.5 roms and my favorites were lost in asia and miri v17 i feel both are stable and faster than the 6.1 htc rom

honestly if u want stable, dont use a beta rom ...
btw if you bricked it, i doubt they will restore right ? since u r "not" suppose to do so

leobox1 said:
honestly if u want stable, dont use a beta rom ...
btw if you bricked it, i doubt they will restore right ? since u r "not" suppose to do so
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Well, not to be picky, there are stable (lifting off the cover every 30 minutes) and there are stable (using the reset software once or twice a day). Yes, even for beta which is what they all are. I know which stable even you will choose.

HTC Hero interface

any chance to get it working on rhodium??
see the video...
http://www.macitynet.it/macity/aA38603/htc_hero_arriva_il_terzo_android_con_nuova_interfaccia.shtml

Nice interface, but I think it's a very long way off any hope of being ported for the Rhodium, and thats if anyone sees it as a great advantage. It would be a massive project.
Seems to be largely based on TF3D, just remoulded, and probably re-engineered. Looks a lot smoother, but then again it's only a video and they can make it look as smooth as they like! Certainly has all the trademarks of a HTC interface though....like a cross between TF3D and PointUI.
When is this device out anyway? It would be typical of HTC to announce a new one, only weeks after we've all forked out for our Rhodiums!

here's hoping HTC bundle something similar with their 6.5 update for the rhodium!

We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )

jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2

lhwparis said:
jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2
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i hope so...but knowing htc i think the new interface will be available for new devices (devices released after the HTC Hero...)...i hope im wrong...

I don't think so, they have promised upgrades to 6.5 for diamond 2 and touch pro 2 owners (as part of the sales blurb) and i imagine this is their big push at doing something different, creating a consistent user interface throughout their range regardless of OS.
I think they really want to dominate and they're certainly doing a good job so far.
Now if only I could get flash working with the default browser...

dazkeirle said:
We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )
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yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..

Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort

this Hero (HTC Sense) really really adorable
Tried android with Raphael, i love the new OS experience

dazultra2000 said:
Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort
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Exactly – thx God for XDA developers :-D
sometimes I wonder whether any other platform has such a great support .. well who cares … we DO :-D

Mashe said:
yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..
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...as i said...

thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too

lhwparis said:
thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too
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and if not that XDA will (hopefully)

Do want!
Looks like a big improvement over TF3D.
Hopefully we'll get this in the official 6.5 upgrade...

yes yes
Lightbulb HTC Hero TF3D Manila 2.1 V2.0 on TP2
it works on mine TP2
cab fils @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538826

I believe this is called PointSense...
You can see more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542107
Apparently this works but it's slower than the TF3D

Windows Mobile Professional on Smartphone Device (PREVIEW) // UPDATE 02-10-'10

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Windows Mobile 6.5.3 Professional running on
Samsung GT-C6625 a.k.a Valencia (Non-Touchscreen)
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PREVIEW
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News:
I've some great news for you! This is an announcement of the first successful attempt to make WM 6.5.3 Professional run on the Samsung GT-C6625 a.k.a Valencia (a Smartphone Device with WM 6.1 as Original Firmware). The name of the great Chef who made it all possible is tj_style, a XDA and a Kaskus.us Community member who's Cooking ROMs and Kitchens.
Update 02-10-'10:
tj_style was successful in rewriting the Keyboard Driver so the Keyboard Errors and Bugs are fixed!
Now he's busy to build and, after that, releasing the Beta2. This will still be for Testers only!
He will make the Beta2 more stable by fixing the other System Parts and after that he will release the Beta3 for Public!
I'll keep you in touch!
Thekn
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Screenshots
(These are from the first Beta (WM 6.5). The second Beta is WM 6.5.3, I'll place the screenshots soon!
For WM 6.5.3 Proof, watch the Video!):
Kaskus.us Valencia and Smartphone Lounge:
This device doesn't had a lot of development until a half a year ago. At the Kaskus Valencia Lounge they started to cook the first WM 6.5 ROMs for the Samsung Device and until now there are a couple of custom ROMs (thanks to the Kitchen of tj_style), Apps and Tweaks, not only for this device but also compatible with all Smartphone Devices. Some Apps are the first one ever for WM Smartphone Devices. This Lounge is very active and has new Apps and Tweaks every week.
Everyone thinks the Smartphone Development is dead, but this Lounge/Community is bringing WM Standard back to live!
Porting:
The latest big news I wanna to talk about is the process of Porting WM 6.5.3 to the Samsung Valencia. It's done before, but that was WM 6.5 and it was for the HTC Tornado. That Chef broke his Device only a couple of weeks later so there isn't improvement and development anymore, that project is dead now. Now, the first beta ROM is released only for 2 persons (except from the Chef of course), that includes me and a other person of the Kaskus Community. We are testing it and working on it to make it better and more compatible with the Valencia Device.
Screenshots
(These are from the first Beta (WM 6.5). The second Beta is WM 6.5.3, I'll place the screenshots soon!
For WM 6.5.3 Proof, watch the Video!):
Beta:
Because this is a beta Project, there are still some bugs, but only from the the keyboard/hardware buttons to the System, everything else is working great. It's also very very fast and stable (faster than the WM Standard Firmware we noticed).
Please notice: This project is still in BETA Development, so right know it's not open for public, but the release is getting closer! I'll keep you in touch!
Donate and Video:
I'm going to post a video on Youtube for the people who doesn't believe it! Watch it, love it and when you want to support this awesome project, please buy a cup of coffee for this great Chef!
(Right Top Option for changing Language to English)
Video (when link not working: Click on the Link beneath the Video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1tVgElBicI
Thanks to: Thekn, Boardrider, Spydon, BeCo, Ham3r & all the Valencia Lovers at Kaskus.us!

This is great news. I would love to see a ROM developed for other phones such as the Motorola Q9 which have similar specs. I'll be checking on this post and your progress. Thanks a lot!!

Could you port it to?
could you make a 6.5.3 for the samsung intrepid please! its almost exactly like this phone but with a touchscreen
no1 has been able to... or tried...

hmm But on screenshots is WM 6.5 NOT 6.5.X
but movie is great

coolpoete said:
This is great news. I would love to see a ROM developed for other phones such as the Motorola Q9 which have similar specs. I'll be checking on this post and your progress. Thanks a lot!!
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You're welcome! When there are some new updates, I'll post them here!

selkie707 said:
could you make a 6.5.3 for the samsung intrepid please! its almost exactly like this phone but with a touchscreen
no1 has been able to... or tried...
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That's because we can't right now, we can't extract the firmware from the update file! And there is no kitchen for this device! The Samsung Intrepid has wm 6.5 right?

JaCoL_JcL said:
hmm But on screenshots is WM 6.5 NOT 6.5.X
but movie is great
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these pictures are from the first beta, that had wm 6.5, I'll place the new pictures about the wm 6.5.3 soon!

Update: See first Post!

yes the samsung intrepid is 6.5

Can i try this on my Samsung GT-B7320 ????

magesh999 said:
Can i try this on my Samsung GT-B7320 ????
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no sorry! only for c6625

Thekn said:
no sorry! only for c6625
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i supposed to ask the same question..
i always wanted to make my bars and icon frame transparent on my b7320 omnia pro. maybe next time.
thanks