Do someone know when HTC will give out a new htc hd (blackstone) rom? maybe with colour Manila TAB. or something like that.
Because the stock rom is the fastest and most stabile ROM, I think! BUT not a pretty ROM, like the Manila 2.5 and W6.5**. It just need a OVERHAUL!
I think we can have W6.1 with... Manila 2.4 maybe hehe. not as fancy but cooler then Manila 2.1
LET's press the HTC, because they think everyone ****t money to buy a new device every month or week!
im happy with my HTC HD, but i think HTC has forget about us old-device-user! and they come out with upgrade to other "new" devices, but i want somthing to, somthing cool. and if xda and our worlds best developers can, then the htc company with the tecnologi can do it to! wtf i think, crapy done by htc! i have sent 1000 of mails too them and they keep say " dont know" then why do u work at support for god f###.. or? feks. the stock HD ROM have the ugly keybord, i want the new one on a stock rom.. so!
Sorry for my english =P but u guys understand what i meen!
Good Luck with that - Whilst I share your frustration that those who keep faith with Stock ROMs aren't rewarded with updates, the fact is that with the sheer amount of devices that HTC currently release year on year, the odds that some of it's back catalogue will get any such update are quite small.
I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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Me too ....... I really would appreciate some stock rom, that would have qualities of Duttys rom with Co0kie Home Tab and CHTEditor versatility.
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Me too ....... I really would appreciate some stock rom, that would have qualities of Duttys rom with Co0kie Home Tab and CHTEditor versatility.
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thats what I really mean!! Stock rom with qualities of our chief would be the best for HTC HD Cheers!
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Good Luck with that - Whilst I share your frustration that those who keep faith with Stock ROMs aren't rewarded with updates, the fact is that with the sheer amount of devices that HTC currently release year on year, the odds that some of it's back catalogue will get any such update are quite small.
I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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I have flashed xda cooked ROM, but our chiefs have stoped building ROMS with WM6.1, and manilla 2.1. And I prefer the speed and the stability of the WM6.1 and manilla 2.1.
Answer is no, and that is just the nature of business
There are too many new devices out there that they are focusing on (and still have issues), just to name a few, HD2, Nexus One, Desire...
Actually I don't mind them doing so, but at least make it easier for outsiders to access info on older chipsets (MSM), which to me is the main hurdle to maximize performance on the phones.
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Answer is no, and that is just the nature of business
There are too many new devices out there that they are focusing on (and still have issues), just to name a few, HD2, Nexus One, Desire...
Actually I don't mind them doing so, but at least make it easier for outsiders to access info on older chipsets (MSM), which to me is the main hurdle to maximize performance on the phones.
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ok, ur right now as i thinking, but.. WHY! do everyone want WM6.5? is stil laggy after some use, at the begining its WOW cool and fast, stable, but after 2-3 weeks its starts to be slow. so, why not make the 6.1 even better and faster + new design ( manila 2.5) tabs? the rest dont have to be as "cool" as htc hd2 (leo) i allways use the kwbr topix rom, but im dont going from his rom topix 3.5 wwe =D anyway, his new rom topix 3.6 or somthing, is it wm 6.1 or 6.5? heh
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ok, ur right now as i thinking, but.. WHY! do everyone want WM6.5? is stil laggy after some use, at the begining its WOW cool and fast, stable, but after 2-3 weeks its starts to be slow. so, why not make the 6.1 even better and faster + new design ( manila 2.5) tabs? the rest dont have to be as "cool" as htc hd2 (leo) i allways use the kwbr topix rom, but im dont going from his rom topix 3.5 wwe =D anyway, his new rom topix 3.6 or somthing, is it wm 6.1 or 6.5? heh
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u know why? because it takes effort to do software development, you need more people to support two platforms than one. It would have been nice if htc just upgrade/tweak manila 2.1 to 2.5. but from general use, you know that's not the case, as they behave differently (functionality is the same).
So why is this decision made? Could be many reasons, maybe feature, flexibility wise, 2.1 is just not good enough for the future, who knows?
For sure htc is not going to work on 2.1 & 2.5 to acheive the same goal, even though its for different phones, sadly in this industry the upgrade cycle is 6 months to 1 year (just like computers). I am not try to bash on the company, but take a guess which htc phone is at top quality in user experience (hardware & software) at release, and have good upgrades/support after 2 years. When you hang around xda long enough, you will know
ok, i understand now! HTC HD is dead. the company is thinkig about new phones. but if ill buy HTC Desire HD, do i have to keep installing coocked rom's frome here? The HTC Desire is not getting the "new" htc sense, ( htcsense.com) why? its so lalala stupid, look at the xp,vista and win 7. only new design, but u still have internett explorer and other stuff, i dont care about the design, only about nice updats.
thats why i dont like htc loonger, the forget about our phone after 5 months.
Pff, it's useless asking for updates for old HTC devices. They launch a dozen of phones every year. Their goal is to sell the new devices and earn money, not update the old ones for free. I use HTC Touch HD and i haven't seen any official updates on their site, except for some bug fixes and an official ROM which does nothing more than my preinstalled ROM. Haven't checked the updates for other HTC devices, but it's obviously they didn't give a damn about HTC Touch HD immediately after its release.
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... do you, the devs of xda developers think it is feisable to run a WM 6.5 ROM at optimum performance on a Touch HD? Okay so we dont have the dedicated Windows Key, but surely we have the spec to run things such as the honeycomb
why ? Where told HTC to not suppport HTC Touch HD any further ?
hans
Did they? how silly of them.
dontworry key mapping is trivial
So, any links to back up that HTC won't release a updated rom?
link #1 - MS statement
"no devices in the market today will receive official 6.5 updates"
link #2 - HTC statement
"customers of the Touch Pro2 and Touch Diamond2 will get 6.5 upgrades for free"
So forget about official upgrade for out Blackstone..
So that means no WM6.5 with right updates for us huh?
No. To be honest, why should they? It's a major upgrade, and would cost HTC money to implement.
Bug fixes we are entitled to, not a new OS.
sorry to say
this has always been the same with WM.....
GET USED TO IT
Well I can't say that I'm particulary bothered about missing out on a free official upgrade to 6.5. From what I've seen so far Microsoft have just done what we've all be doing for some time now, that is making the OS more 'finger friendly'. I'm quite content with my HD now after installing some apps and tweaks to achieve this. Most from the pages of this wonderful forum.
And as for the honeycomb style today page.....they can keep it. Ugly!
To be honest why bother with 6.5 !!! Like all recent upgrades from MS it is just eye candy and nothing more...... Nothing radical or new just a knock off of the eye phone... The HTC Touch screen is more novel than MS....... Be nice if they innovated.....
Im not so bothered on the today section its the better finger menus i think will be good.
I think WM 6.5 looks great and IS A MUST for the Touch HD.
I also think it is absolutely customer ... off giving not wm 6.5 as a update - its ok to take money for it.
As you XDAlers always complain about apple - look at them - they improve the OS every 3 month and give new features and bug fiexes.
We with our nice HTC gadgets don-t get updates or new features.
I have my htc touch hd and love it, but the software is a hell of sloe any you can write as much as you want - WinMo 6.1 ist fuc... slow.
Take the G1 and see what the hardware is capable
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complain about apple - look at them - they improve the OS every 3 month and give new features and bug fiexes.
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They have to. OS X Mobile does not have proper Bluetooth support, multitasking support, MMS support, copy&paste support, etc., so most advanced user are really angry.
Windows Mobile, on the other hand, is mature OS. There is not much reason to upgrade from Win Mobile 6.1 to 6.5.
I've already talked with the manager of the distributor (father of a friend) here in my country before I bought the phone. They really said that they will not give updates to get the 6.5. but if xda-devs can make a rom out of it, it still wont be official. Hopefully MS solves the auto answer call when taking out the phone, i hate using s2u2 cuz there are sometimes delay and wastes a couple of rings (caller side)
Come on guys. 6.5 ? Honeycomb interface and that is about it, right ? Who cares since most of advanced users use 3rd-party UI anyway. It has FingerMenu version too and IE 6, but they are already here on HD
And since Diamond2/Pro2 will have 6.5 - HD will have it too. May be not officially, but ...
Listen ... I had HTC Wizard with WM5, which had never been officially upgraded. Did not stop me from have it with WM6.1 Pretty sure even Wizard will have 6.5, why not HD ? Dont worry about it.
is the ui all that 6.5 will bring? no additional backend features/settings?
Till yesterday i wanted WM6.5 in HD badly... actually, i still want it.
But now what i really really really want is the new TF3D
Jesus. Are only novice users writing here You want WinMo 6.5 Head over to the ROM section of THIS forum and you will get at least 2 WinMo 6.5 ROM's TODAY They are with early BETA versions of the OS, so you can see things others will MAYBE see in 7-8 months. That's the really cool thing about HTC devices. You always get the good stuff first
On the other hand...HTC actually offers WinMo ugrades for premium phones. Many WinMo 5 phones (including my old Artemis) got an official WinMo 6 upgrade and my Polaris recieved WinMo 6.1 as did the Kaiser, HTC Touch etc.
So stop complaining. The VERY first WimMo 6.5 ALPHA leaked for the...Blue Angel. For those not knowing this great device: The Blue Angel is shipped originaly with WinMo 2003 (not even SE) and is 5 years old.
Here see a Video people demonstrating WM 6.5
http://video.golem.de/handy/1860/windows-mobile-6.5-mobile-world-congress-2009.html
Its not so well performing, as I hoped, maybe it'll get better.
also is bricking the phone recoverable or must sent back to manufacturer? i lived in the u.s.
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also is bricking the phone recoverable or must sent back to manufacturer? i lived in the u.s.
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If you actually brick the phone it means you cannot use it ever, won't even turn on i.e. its as much use as a brick!! All you can do is return it.
Are you experiencing problems with your phone? Or are you just worried that you may brick phone if you flash to new rom?
If latter follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide in my signature and you'll be fine. As long as you use USPL or HSPL I'm 99.99% sure you won't brick phone.
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i lived in the u.s.
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you are fortunate to have escaped out then!
You generally have to do something pretty dumb to brick your phone to get it into a non-usable state. Most things you'll be able to do with standard flashing tools is bung up a firmware upgrade ( and you start again ). The chances of blowing away the boot loader, are smaller - but if you follow the instructions and don't pull the cable out while its doing stuff, then you'll have no worries.
for me, 6.5 flys and I'll not be going back now to 6.1 i fear. I use minimal ROMS where available as I never use facebook and half the other crap that bloats most of them.
I went back and forth quite alot between 6.1 and 6.5 and finally settled on 6.5 after much personal testing I find 6.5 to be better/perhaps faster and even sharper, clearer screen shots of everything especially noticable in emails. I'll be stickin' with 6.5. Don't care much for the wm default titanium thing tho...jmo
I've had 6.5 for a few months (fast & stable) and don't plan to go backword to 6.1!
sucess on upgrading to miri 6.5 v16.1
one problem now is i cannot play any of the youtube site videos and... i'm looking for this theme that widgetkid on youtube was running... anybody know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOFw19ec0o
Not to open a new topic, is HTC intend to release a new official rom based on WM 6.5?
AFAIK (from multitue of WM/HTC forums) Probabely Not
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Not to open a new topic, is HTC intend to release a new official rom based on WM 6.5?
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No - HTC will not provide official ROM updates to 6.5 for the Touch HD!
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No - HTC will not provide official ROM updates to 6.5 for the Touch HD!
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Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part. Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part. Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Aside from encouraging you to upgrade to the new shiny model (which is the main driver), manufacturers have to pay licensing costs to Microsoft for each version of WM (just as you would for a desktop Windows upgrade). So it would cost them money to make it available retrospectively for existing phones when they have already paid for the 6.1 licence. It was made fairly clear by HTC and most other manufacturers that 6.5 would only be made available with newly released devices after the WM6.5 launch.
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Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part.
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Yepp, I'm pretty sure that's the reason...
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Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Even if we already use WM6.5 because the great cooks on this forum have provided us with it - it still makes sense for HTC not to offer official upgrades for two reasons:
1. With no official upgrades, we void our warrenty using cooked ROMs. In a worst case scenario they could refuse any support on a damaged item running 6.5.
2. They don't have to offer any support (online, mail, website) for 6.5.
EDIT: For proof of number 1, read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3907598&postcount=5
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I've had 6.5 for a few months (fast & stable) and don't plan to go backword to 6.1!
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So which is the most stable 6.5? I tried a couple but I keep having to reboot my phone to get out of crashes and so miss a lot of calls. For me, speed is essential but stability is precious!
Thanks!
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So which is the most stable 6.5? I tried a couple but I keep having to reboot my phone to get out of crashes and so miss a lot of calls. For me, speed is essential but stability is precious!
Thanks!
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Well in my case i tried almost all the 6.5 roms and my favorites were lost in asia and miri v17 i feel both are stable and faster than the 6.1 htc rom
honestly if u want stable, dont use a beta rom ...
btw if you bricked it, i doubt they will restore right ? since u r "not" suppose to do so
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honestly if u want stable, dont use a beta rom ...
btw if you bricked it, i doubt they will restore right ? since u r "not" suppose to do so
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Well, not to be picky, there are stable (lifting off the cover every 30 minutes) and there are stable (using the reset software once or twice a day). Yes, even for beta which is what they all are. I know which stable even you will choose.
any chance to get it working on rhodium??
see the video...
http://www.macitynet.it/macity/aA38603/htc_hero_arriva_il_terzo_android_con_nuova_interfaccia.shtml
Nice interface, but I think it's a very long way off any hope of being ported for the Rhodium, and thats if anyone sees it as a great advantage. It would be a massive project.
Seems to be largely based on TF3D, just remoulded, and probably re-engineered. Looks a lot smoother, but then again it's only a video and they can make it look as smooth as they like! Certainly has all the trademarks of a HTC interface though....like a cross between TF3D and PointUI.
When is this device out anyway? It would be typical of HTC to announce a new one, only weeks after we've all forked out for our Rhodiums!
here's hoping HTC bundle something similar with their 6.5 update for the rhodium!
We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )
jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2
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jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2
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i hope so...but knowing htc i think the new interface will be available for new devices (devices released after the HTC Hero...)...i hope im wrong...
I don't think so, they have promised upgrades to 6.5 for diamond 2 and touch pro 2 owners (as part of the sales blurb) and i imagine this is their big push at doing something different, creating a consistent user interface throughout their range regardless of OS.
I think they really want to dominate and they're certainly doing a good job so far.
Now if only I could get flash working with the default browser...
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We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )
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yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..
Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort
this Hero (HTC Sense) really really adorable
Tried android with Raphael, i love the new OS experience
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Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort
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Exactly – thx God for XDA developers :-D
sometimes I wonder whether any other platform has such a great support .. well who cares … we DO :-D
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yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..
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...as i said...
thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too
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thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too
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and if not that XDA will (hopefully)
Do want!
Looks like a big improvement over TF3D.
Hopefully we'll get this in the official 6.5 upgrade...
yes yes
Lightbulb HTC Hero TF3D Manila 2.1 V2.0 on TP2
it works on mine TP2
cab fils @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538826
I believe this is called PointSense...
You can see more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542107
Apparently this works but it's slower than the TF3D
Is it just me or have the major players in the Touch HD ROM Section given up and moved onto newer handsets now? Miri, Dutty etc...
I am also thinking in the same way as you, no body is contributing much toward the HD now a days. At least Android is required for our HDs to enjoy it a little further.
i think they have but it doesnt matter because every chef as multiple good roms to use for daily base
and some are upgraded to newest things that still are in beta but work quite well on oure blackstones
and its quiet from htc/windows side
Duttythroy doesn't post on XDA anymore. He moved to a new website http://htcpedia.com/
On thuesday he released his latest ROM, the "Duttys HD WM6.5 Leo R3". Haven't tried though
Dutty's new rom is nice enough Miri is on vacation until Monday & promises new roms from the newer builds.
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Is it just me or have the major players in the Touch HD ROM Section given up and moved onto newer handsets now? Miri, Dutty etc...
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well (sadly 4 us ) many of the good devs have multiple devices, and since HTC is puching out like 5 devices each year or more, its natural the would upgrade, myself feel an urge, been looking at the hero, but i am afraid the android launch will leave me bored from not being able to flash in the same way i think miri have a rhodium, i know dutty have a topaz and so on, so since the rhodium and topaz owners can benefit more, i think we lose out some but hey, the HD is getting quite old anyway so maybe we should all just move on
that new LEO device with 1gig processor seem very attractive.....
Where is onkolg?
my guess is our dev are waiting for the official release of wm6.5!
patience guiessssssssssss!!
btw i dont want to move on! THD form factor is perfect. no other phone would be an "upgrade" for me right now
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patience guiessssssssssss!!
btw i dont want to move on! THD form factor is perfect. no other phone would be an "upgrade" for me right now
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Maybe a Touch HD 2
Throy is still extremely active on the HD. He's just released R4 Leo. Miri is currently on holiday and still active, as are NRG to name a few. So its not over yet!
Throy only has the Touch HD & Touch Diamond 2, think I'll wait and see where all the big names go before I make a decision on what device to choose. For the time being I'm content
To each his own, but for me personally, the only thing I can consider an upgrade would be the Leo. I'm a flashing junky and it saddens me that I have to keep a rom for longer than a week, but all my fave devs aren't releasing new ones as often as they used. Oh well... I guess I better get a girlfriend to partially fill this void
but i guess roms calm down once there is a sable wm build and touchflo.
i really want to see leaks of wm7... i think i'm going to keep my HD for another year then move to LEO 2
I guess people get bored when the phone has been around for some years, I got pretty bored of my Diamond very fast, 2 months after I bought it I bought a Topaz.
Even if the HD is old and outdated (I HATE Manila 2.5/2.6, I won't upgrade for a long time) it's still a great phone to listen to music and watch movies on. It got everything I would ask for except a camera flash.
In addition to that ... what NEWER devices they could move to ? Come on, HD is the best Until Leo comes at least
kwbr
Hey guys, dont forget kwbr!
This guy is still regularly turning out what is, in my opinion at any rate, some of the best ROMs for the HD.
(check it out for yourselves - ROM name = Topix)
LL
I think onkolog might be caught up with studying for the boards (medical licensing) or in internship.
You just have to have patience. A lot of chefs throw out roms quite consistently, but once their roms become stable, output slows. This is enevitable until another build is leaked.
I just bought an unused Omnia II i920 off Ebay - It should be here in a week or so. So, I'd like to know...what ROM do you think is the best?
As some background, I'm coming from the i910. I'm currently using Lioryte's latest, with Titanium turned off and SPB MS3.5 with Mskip's enhancements. It's a thing of beauty, and took the Omnia from virtually unuseable to awesome. (I was formerly a huge Evidence/Bgill fan - his ROMs were rock solid! Hated losing him.)
This is how I'd planned to run the O2 - MS3.5. But, the Sense ROMs look pretty nice, too.
Lemme know, folks. I know there aren't many O2 owners here, but I also know that any here are striving to make the phone work to it's fullest potential. These are the type of folks I want advice from!
Man thats tough to say. I mean Ninja makes some AWESOME roms, I just don't like using 6.5
I have made a few and currently my favorite is the Sense 2.5 rom.
Just my 2 cents.
(BTW there are a BUNCH of us on MoDaCo)
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Man thats tough to say. I mean Ninja makes some AWESOME roms, I just don't like using 6.5
I have made a few and currently my favorite is the Sense 2.5 rom.
Just my 2 cents.
(BTW there are a BUNCH of us on MoDaCo)
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I know, I've been an i910 Modaco member for a while. There just doesn't seem to be much activity in the i920 forum over there.
hi, I m 2 owner of omnia 2 and still doesent know how to upgrade my phone to offical latest rom, software say its allready latest, but i know that is Windows mobile 6.5 21863 build