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I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"? Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person...
All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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can't tell you how many times i've done the same, lol.
meanvulcan said:
I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
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for you, giving up network discounts and 3G is crazy. for me, those 2 criteria are low on my list. i view it more as a tradeoff/investment to get what i want (not what i need, lol). i used 1 subsidized device in that past 4 years; everything else was/is unsubsidized. my experience suggests that unlocked/unsubsidized devices sale faster and at higher prices. anyway, i resale my phones via ebay and use the proceeds to fund some or all of the cost of my next device. i must admit that i've been fortunate enough to also fund my tech habit via dividends from sporting "investments". we all have our addictions, vices, etc. unfortunately, the phone addiction can be an expensive one.
meanvulcan said:
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"?
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i agree with you 100%! my suspicions are that contractual agreements between htc and at&t and at&t and "the fruit company" have something to do with the HD not coming to the US. at&t is the only GSM carrier with an extended 3G footprint and bringing the HD to at&t would directly compete against the fruity phone. the fruit company wouldn't like that, lol. now that still doesn't explain why the HD is missing the us 3G bands...this could be due to technical reasons.
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Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person....
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with the improved sensitivity of the HD, one-handed or two-handed thumb typing is better than i expected. there's always room for improvement, but it works very well for me.
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All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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tried the crackberry drug once and had major withdrawal issues, lol. for me, it's not a viable substitute.
Feeding the addiction, eh? I'd actually live without 3G -- I keep my Kaiser on Edge most of the time anyway, if only it was cheaper. I am just surprised this is the only phone either than the fruity company's youPhone that has a touchscreen >= 3.5" (HTC Universal excluded). Bastardos... the lot of'em.
Answer me this...
I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
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I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
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so, if you're selling to get 3G, you must be using 3G extensively everyday? true? if yes, and i was in your shoes, i would have passed on the HD. regarding the 3G bands, well, marketing decisions by someone led them to exclude the 3G bands on the HD. the market has changed (for whatever reaason) since the Polaris was relased. the first evidence of that was the release of the Diamond without 3G. we're just small pawns in the game...
3G remorse
Yes, I lived in Orlando and now NY where both had great 3G almost all times. I am constantly checking the internet on pricing items and looking at emails. I hate to admit this too, but the Iphone 3G was pretty functional for me. I just hate Mac everything so i got rid of it. I just love the screen on the HD though! I think I'm buying a Polaris tomorrow.
Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
HD fever
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Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
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ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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It's a GSM phone, so if it's not locked it will work on any GSM network -- that's AT&T and T-mo in the US.
Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
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Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
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it's already unlocked if you purchase from someone like Clove, Expansys. and yes, all you have to do is pop in your SIM card and you're good to go. i got mine from Clove Technologies and it's working great on at&t. it will even configure your internet settings...
you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans an I think I can narrow down to 5 people to put on my faves. any suggestions man ever since I got my hands on this phone the other day which it was my friends...all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans ..all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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I've been using unlocked ppc's with tmob for about 2years...hard to beat the price plans, Edge works great, and Gms works anywhere in the world!
I love my hd2, I just got it. But, I'm using it on ATT and currently am seeking to unlocking it. I'm thinking about switching to Nexus one because of it's ATT 3G and wont need to be unlocked. I have been without phone use for about 3 weeks. I want an easier to open battery door, but that's about it. I really don't want to have to mail my HD2 back and wait for a refund, then buy a N1 and have to wait.... I just really need help, should I switch or not? I barely ever make calls on my phones, I usually text and don't have Data but was planning on adding it on when I got the HD2. Will Edge Data speeds be really bad? I'm just so confused right now, I was hoping I could trade my HD2 for a N1 to make it quick and easy so if I didn't like it I could switch back but NOBODY with a N1 wants a HD2. It's stressing me out because I need a phone to use ASAP, but don't want to make the wrong decision and be stuck with a phone I hate for possibly years since I'm not signing another contract with ATT, but don't plan on switching to another carrier.
the N1 has ATT 3G bands
EDIT: wow, I guess it does. How the hell did I miss that they released an AT&T/Rogers version of the N1??
The difference in EDGE vs 3G is quite substantial. Nowadays I would consider EDGE data connectivity speeds almost useless. So for you, I would recommend a native 3G device over an unlocked device that only connects via EDGE. ( Not that I am recommending the N1 over the Hd2 )
I understand the inconvenience you state about having to return your phone online and to be without a phone in the meantime. Have you considered selling your HD2 locally via Craigslist? Then use the $$ towards the Nexus!
Or better yet, since you're out-of-contract you should just keep the HD2, since you love it so much anyways, and switch to a no Contract Tmo plan with Data and save some $$ !
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I love my hd2, I just got it. But, I'm using it on ATT and currently am seeking to unlocking it. I'm thinking about switching to Nexus one because of it's ATT 3G and wont need to be unlocked. I have been without phone use for about 3 weeks. I want an easier to open battery door, but that's about it. I really don't want to have to mail my HD2 back and wait for a refund, then buy a N1 and have to wait.... I just really need help, should I switch or not? I barely ever make calls on my phones, I usually text and don't have Data but was planning on adding it on when I got the HD2. Will Edge Data speeds be really bad? I'm just so confused right now, I was hoping I could trade my HD2 for a N1 to make it quick and easy so if I didn't like it I could switch back but NOBODY with a N1 wants a HD2. It's stressing me out because I need a phone to use ASAP, but don't want to make the wrong decision and be stuck with a phone I hate for possibly years since I'm not signing another contract with ATT, but don't plan on switching to another carrier.
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So you have me a bit confused. Do you have a T-mobile HTC HD2? & why would keeping this bind you into a contract with AT&T?
If you are using AT&T and worried about data speeds I'd say to get a phone that works with AT&T 3G, You do know that AT&T will be releasing iPhone 4 this month? ( I know I am probably going to get bashed for this) This phone will be the biggest bang for your buck if your looking into touch screen, 3G speeds, & smartphones. I'd say return your HD2 wait for your refund and buy a simple phone til the iPhone 4 comes out.
But that is just me. I am just fine with my HD2 but I am on T-mobile so I get 3G speeds already.
Edit: okay I just reread your post so please disregaurd my above statement, I thought you were signing another contract with AT&T
But regaurding your N1 if you are big on data speeds and the N1 can both support both 3G networks for AT&T & T-Mobile then i'd almost say its worth it and do what I said above and get a cheap phone off of like craigslist to hold you down til then.
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So you have me a bit confused. Do you have a T-mobile HTC HD2? & why would keeping this bind you into a contract with AT&T?
If you are using AT&T and worried about data speeds I'd say to get a phone that works with AT&T 3G, You do know that AT&T will be releasing iPhone 4 this month? ( I know I am probably going to get bashed for this) This phone will be the biggest bang for your buck if your looking into touch screen, 3G speeds, & smartphones. I'd say return your HD2 wait for your refund and buy a simple phone til the iPhone 4 comes out.
But that is just me. I am just fine with my HD2 but I am on T-mobile so I get 3G speeds already.
Edit: okay I just reread your post so please disregaurd my above statement, I thought you were signing another contract with AT&T
But regaurding your N1 if you are big on data speeds and the N1 can both support both 3G networks for AT&T & T-Mobile then i'd almost say its worth it and do what I said above and get a cheap phone off of like craigslist to hold you down til then.
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AT&T's data sucks... Everyone that I know using an Iphone says the data, interenet, etc is slow as hell. Also At&t just announced they are doing away with their unlimited data plan... How nice of them...
If your not getting 3g speeds HD2 its pretty useless.
Yea, I heard about att's new "courtesy" for data. I'd like to switch to T-Mobile but my contract doesn't end till sometime around April of 2011. Craigslist isn't an option because I'd need to get the same ammount I paid for it and I'm not sure if I can take it back anymore. I'm never using eBay again either.... TOO MANY FEES, I'd end up losing $50 if I got $400 for it. Nobody on here is looking for an HD2 either.... I love the phone but if Edge is as bad as i'm hearing I don't think I can go through with this.
Do yourself a favor and throw that hunk of crap in the garbage and get the new iphone on the 24th, i have had 4 HD2's and all were huge piles of ****, you cant even text message on the thing unless you type one letter per 20seconds LOL i actually threw my last one at the wall and smashed it cause it is just a **** phone with good parts that HTC obviously couldnt sput together to make it run smooth, Even the scrolling is choppy as ****, anyways sorry im so angry but these phones are ****!!!! Im even gonna switch to ATT if i have to from tmobile on the 24th to get the iphone 4 if i have to, but hopefully verizon will have it as well. GL buddy
Thanks... Their was an offical statement made by Apple that their would be no CDMA iPhone anytime soon.
who knows with apple, they might throw out a bone, it would be sick if they offered it through Tmobile.
yeah i'm trying to sell my HD2 too.
might have to resort to ebay...
*sigh*
I've heard you can get very fast edge speeds with at&t... around 700-800kbps. Theres a thread about it somewhere in the original Leo General section.... thats as fast as I'm getting with T-Mobile 3G. I'd prefer the HD2 over a N1. I would definitely not go with the iphone. But thats just me. I prefer WinMo. I'm not a fan of locked down OS's like apples. I like the versatility and functionality of winmo. My HD2 has been one of the most stable phones I've owned.... and what other phone can you play any playstation game at full speed?
ATT has the best 3G for a GSM carrier, I live in South Florida so I suppose if your correct about fast EDGE speeds than I may take a second look about that. I just need to unlock it first...
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who knows with apple, they might throw out a bone, it would be sick if they offered it through Tmobile.
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Haven't you heard? It's called 'Jailbreaking and Unlocking.'
yup i know but they might be able to stop that with the new Iphone but who knows, if there is a jailbreak and unlock i will just cancel ATT after i get it and switch back to Tmobile and keep the Iphone. I have a way of not having to pay the cancel fee so its all good.
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ATT has the best 3G for a GSM carrier, I live in South Florida so I suppose if your correct about fast EDGE speeds than I may take a second look about that. I just need to unlock it first...
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It all depends on the coverage of your wireless carrier.
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution
I meant in my area, ATT is fastest.
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Do yourself a favor and throw that hunk of crap in the garbage and get the new iphone on the 24th, i have had 4 HD2's and all were huge piles of ****, you cant even text message on the thing unless you type one letter per 20seconds LOL i actually threw my last one at the wall and smashed it cause it is just a **** phone with good parts that HTC obviously couldnt sput together to make it run smooth, Even the scrolling is choppy as ****, anyways sorry im so angry but these phones are ****!!!! Im even gonna switch to ATT if i have to from tmobile on the 24th to get the iphone 4 if i have to, but hopefully verizon will have it as well. GL buddy
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Im with you on this starkall. Im not going to get an iPhone but really cannot stand this damn HD2 anymore. Coming from a G1 which has flawless SMS and MMS and going to this where you have to repeat stupid steps just to type a message is killing me...I love the display, like winmo, but just cant live with this sms and cracking phone calls.
According to recent posts in the LEO non-tmo section HTC doesnt feel like its their problem. So probably no fix for it unless its replaced completely or Win 7 is ported soon.
I have an HTC incredible for my work phone and everytime i pick that back up for emailing, sms or just straight web browsing im more disappointed with the HD2..Im not one of those " F^#K WinMo, android rules" people. I actually haven't used the winmo os since back on my TMO dash. I really like it and see huge potential with some of these devs...But basic sms..come on meow.
yeah Ima pick up a nexus one not an iPhone.
I'm using an HD2 on AT&T right now. EDGE isn't bad on it; it's definitely manageable for most websites. Only downside is that YouTube is pretty much a no go.
So, I am getting bored with my iphone 4... and feel like tinkering again. I loved my nexus one and these forums.... now I am thinking about getting a desire hd (my biggest concern is, it will NOT run on 3g on my network - rogers).
I am hoping and assuming I can get by with wifi and 2g.... if that phone is that good and fun.....
Will 2.3 get on this device... as soon as these guys get their hands on it?
How is the battery life? Is it easy to change the battery (buy spares etc)
Any input would be appreciated. thx
**updating this a bit: So, I thought this would at least work on 3g with telus new network..... if that is not the case, I might just sell the phone.... even though I ordered the otterbox and higher capacity battery! My question is, am I better off leaving and selling the phone as is mint and untouched (sim free phone). Or would the value be better rooted? thx again
I live in the states and I don't even notice it missing 3G. I'm mostly on wi-fi, and when I'm not, 2G is enough to not care it's not 3G. The phone is worth it for me. I wouldn't trade it for any other phone right now, not even MyTouch 4G which I could have, but the DHD is to awesome. I have it now just over a week, and the battery lasts a solid day and a half, and it keeps getting better each charge. I could probably get two days if I needed to. FroYo 2.2 is all I need, so I'm not concerned when it will get GB, but I assume soon after it's release, seeing how this is a flagship phone. I say get it, and you won't regret it.
Oh, and as far as changing the battery, it's not that hard once you get the hang of how the cover comes off and on. Same with the sim/antenna cover, and if you do happen to break them, HTC already has them on their site, so you can buy more if you need to. Once you remove the battery cover the battery actually just falls out. It's held in by the cover, so once you remove it, be careful not to drop the battery out without having your hand there to catch it.
thx, yea... I kind of just want to try the beast, lol.... just to be stupid, what is dhd? I have not researched the phone yet... I just see one in canada on ebay... ends in 9 hours, thinking about bidding on it..... I just like trying new phones, if you have any more input, it is much appreciated
thx
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thx, yea... I kind of just want to try the beast, lol.... just to be stupid, what is dhd? I have not researched the phone yet... I just see one in canada on ebay... ends in 9 hours, thinking about bidding on it..... I just like trying new phones, if you have any more input, it is much appreciated
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DHD = Desire HD, I will be mad if you get the DHD before me. (just kidding haha)
Don't worry too much about 2.3, there will probably be a way on here (xda) for you to flash to it when it comes out anyway.
Won the auction, I should have it by wed at the latest
He claimed there was a 3g fix out there somewhere, but that makes no sense... if it does not use the band....
but he has a utube video out there, using the htc telus hero on rogers w/3g.... the hero and the desire use the same bands right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWEAfJ_DxZc
up for this youtube video, if these phones use the same band/freq.... does that mean I can make it work on rogers via 3g?
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up for this youtube video, if these phones use the same band/freq.... does that mean I can make it work on rogers via 3g?
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Nope you can't, that's the Hero he got from Telus which have the North American band ...it's nothing special. However, the Desire HD have the Global frequency, 900, 2100.
Rogers, bell, telus are using 850, 1900
that sucks, 2g blows..... I mean, really... if I am going to focus on wifi, I won't even need a data plan.... unless they release a new desire hd for telus
but I do love my rogers retention plan
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So, I thought this would at least work on 3g with telus new network..... if that is not the case, I might just sell the phone.... even though I ordered the otterbox and higher capacity battery! My question is, am I better off leaving and selling the phone as is mint and untouched (sim free phone). Or would the value be better rooted? thx again
I wonder if 3g matter that much though ... but to answer your question, I would say leave it untouched.
well, I do use a fair amount of data via 3g... approx 300 mb a month.... 2g is almost unusable in comparison.... I will get it and play with it and see how I like it.... but without 3g, makes me sad, lol
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Desire HD Coming
OMG. I just ordered my DHD today so hopefully i should get it in about a week's time. No more uTube watching for me when you've got the real thing to play with.
got mine today and put the otterbox on it! I highly recommend the case....
however, I could not get my rogers "2g" to work.... I hope it is just me being new to android, I know 2g is garbage.... but atleast it would still work for email etc.... I was told it would work on this phone?
Any ideas
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You need to set the right APN settings. You can call rogers technical support for that. Tell them you have an Android phone, they should be able to walkthrough the steps with you. Or you can google it too.
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You need to set the right APN settings. You can call rogers technical support for that. Tell them you have an Android phone, they should be able to walkthrough the steps with you. Or you can google it too.
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figured as much, will call them tomorrow. thx
Phone is pretty sweet overall..... but a few odd things I noticed so far, the camera is "off".... if I point at a bright yellow piece of paper, it appears white....
the colors seem washed in comparison to the ip4, the dual led flashlight is not as bright as the ip4s single (not a fanboy - just stating the obvious)...... I been playing with it for atleast 4 hours, battery life seems pretty good overall, all things considered.
At&t sent me a message that i HAVE to upgrade to their 2.2 is this actually important?
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At&t sent me a message that i HAVE to upgrade to their 2.2 is this actually important?
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Perhaps the message you received today is different from the one I got. The one I got didn't say I had to flash the update, it just implied as much by emphasizing what an "important" update this is. In any event, it's all a load of crap. The update is not required (it's your device; no one can make you flash a ROM that you don't want to install), and be advised that if you do flash it you won't be able to root. In fact, you'll lose root if you have it and you won't be able to get it back. AT&T can bite me.
This is what the txt message said:
AT&T Free Msg: An important software update is available for your HTC Aria. To update to Android 2.2, connect to http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/ and follow the instructions.
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It is as Buck said, it is an optional suggestion.
Ok thanks guys I guess mines different they also said I need to install software to my phone
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I got one this afternoon.
I hate at and t
Im pretty sure we all got that same message. You dont HAVE to upgrade (or downgrade for those of us on 2.3 already ). Just delete the message and go on with your lives as usual.
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Ok thanks guys I guess mines different they also said I need to install software to my phone
AT&T Free Msg: An important software update is available for your HTC Aria. To update to Android 2.2, connect to http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/ and follow the instructions.
This is what I received. In any event, disregard it.
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yah, i got the same message too. DELETE
told my friends also to disregard. Damn ATT trying to take control
I looked at the message as I was heading into the bank, laughed because I was already on 2.2 (Liberated FR008) and deleted the message.
Coming to find out, it was ironic that I received the message the same day AT&T started clamping down on iPhone users for tethering, since I had to use the hotspot function on an unlimited data plan the weekend before due to a fried cable modem in the house.
Deleted message. It was also on the day that I read somewhere that AT&T is buying out T Mobile. Another bad sign...The less competitors to AT&T = Higher pricing, less stability, poorer customer service and pretty much an all around awful experience..
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Yeah, like everyone has said don't be fooled into this update.
A friend of mine went to att and bought an android, but they helpfully updated the device before giving it to him. He promptly asked for a virgin device and they did so.
They will sell you what you want... well mostly. Heh
"Do you mind if I turn up the AC?"
So, hypothetically, say I'm an idiot
and updated with ATT before reading this forum post about how I won't be able to root/mod. Any estimates on how long it will take before 2.2 is rooted for the Aria? I now realize a few of the very simple things HTC/ATT haven't changed that would have helped a lot in simple day to day stuff, like light sensor control (why do those damn buttons at the bottom have to be so bright at night), and removing ATT bloatware.
Amen 2 that simplemobile is the bomb 60$ unlimited an 4g ooh nice fucc tmo an at&t
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Deleted message. It was also on the day that I read somewhere that AT&T is buying out T Mobile. Another bad sign...The less competitors to AT&T = Higher pricing, less stability, poorer customer service and pretty much an all around awful experience..
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I never understood the frustration or hate over any provider honestly.
AT&T/HTC finally coming around with their 2.2, which is great for folks who don't want to do what a lot of us do to the phone.
For the rest of us, delete/ignore the message. Nobody is forcing you to take 2.2. Situation resolved.
ATT isn't the bane of wireless communications. Fact is, no single provider out there is the end-all be-all godsend for everyone, because it's a volatile industry and everyone's wants/perceptions/experiences are different.
Many smaller networks piggyback/lease frequency/bands/bandwidth from the same towers we're all on. As such you're not going to see hellish lag or vastly deposed quality. Their network priority levels -might- change a bit, but they're not taking over the bandwidth. They were already on the same highway with us, just in a different lane.
If it's like any buyout, the inducted customers will be offered a package to stick with their grandfathered plan (if it has benefits over the company's standard plans), and will probably also keep the same limitations as before.
Example, if TMO had no service or roaming service in City A but ATT has service there, they won't get the service because of the grandfathered plan unless they go with a full ATT plan. Even though the whole time the only difference was a network flag somewhere saying that this person's account isn't authorized to use the tower in that city.
That's really what a lot of it boils down to most of the time.
SimpleMobile might work for someone, VZN might work for another.. etc.
Customer Service is always going to vary no matter what, that's based on expectations/experience. If you like the outcome you love the service, if not they suck. So take that out of the equation. Most of the big boys have similar plans right now, and have been playing the technology game.
Until someone decides to suddenly get fruity with plan prices or has some epic technology gamepiece to play.. it's going to remain mostly the same across the board.
We're all simply dollars and cents. We're a number in a database which is then multiplied by how much they pull from us annually, so they can forecast their own income. We pissed someone off, boo hoo, we have a few million other customers.
I'm not PRO ATT either. I help friends find what works for them. I give them advice based on what their needs/wants are. I used to be Bell South, then it went Cingular, now it's AT&T--and I've kept my original plan from day one because it's better than what any other provider has right now. Last I checked, 2 years ago, I'm one of two people in the entire ATT network with that particular plan. It works for me.
Good hunting to everyone out there, and enjoy the technoloigy.
I have been a long term customer of att and have for the most part been happy. However, it is frustrating that they charge for every feature versus other carriers who give it for free or cheaper.
I think for the most part there are good reasons why people bash the company. Maybe they should switch carriers if it bothers them enough, I'm not sure. However, my minor compliants do not warrant a switch.
Btw, a phone is now more than a voice communication device and to put artificial restrictions in software in my mind is absurd.
I'm happy for you that you have a great plan, but as you know the curent plans are poor in comparison. People are allowed to complain. Let them.
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Deleted message. It was also on the day that I read somewhere that AT&T is buying out T Mobile. Another bad sign...The less competitors to AT&T = Higher pricing, less stability, poorer customer service and pretty much an all around awful experience..
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Doesn't this mean we get better signal ?
vicmora5 said:
Doesn't this mean we get better signal ?
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No. They use/share/pay for the same towers.
actually, as a tmobile customer you might have more access or something but, honestly, I really dont know..lol
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I have been a long term customer of att and have for the most part been happy. However, it is frustrating that they charge for every feature versus other carriers who give it for free or cheaper.
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I haven't compared their plans since summer, and at that point I'd compared their plans with VZN and Sprint, for someone else. At that time all 3 companies had the exact same plan offerings down to the feature and penny. Only difference was how each one billed data.
For this person, data wasn't an issue anyhow because they wanted a "regular" phone. So it came down to what phone they wanted, and they went VZN because ATT's regular phone selection blows whale chunks.
We didn't look at other smaller or competing providers because they didn't offer the same overall coverage as the big 3 did.
So what I'm saying is, I dunno what's out there now, but it seems the big 3 have similar plans as each other every time I look. Smaller competitors may have better options/plans/all-inclusive-stuff but again, you have to make sure it works for you.
And bear in mind one reason TMO scuttled the ship is because they were losing income fast.
TheFurnace said:
I think for the most part there are good reasons why people bash the company. Maybe they should switch carriers if it bothers them enough, I'm not sure. However, my minor compliants do not warrant a switch.
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Totally agree! "your mileage may vary", everyone's experience will be different. SprintPCS pissed me off years ago, one reason I was glad to drop them. They were undergoing heavy technical issues with their towers in our area, but because of how they had the phone programmed, even though it could roam digitally it didn't--they set it up to use their service only if we were near their signal.
Couldn't even dial 911 at one point, and I showed this to the techs. They tried with their phones.. same thing. The white-washed faces and lack of response said it all.
Prior to their working on the towers I dropped calls more frequently than I took steps walking. One time when I dropped my phone, the antenna broke off and part of the PCB was actually damaged--and it got a better signal.
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Btw, a phone is now more than a voice communication device and to put artificial restrictions in software in my mind is absurd.
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Totally agree! They've got their reasons though. They're there to stay in business, we're here to make use of their service. It's a matter of keeping each-other happy.
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I'm happy for you that you have a great plan, but as you know the curent plans are poor in comparison. People are allowed to complain. Let them.
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I didn't mean to come off as a jerk and hope nobody took it as such. I'm a huge supporter of getting your complaints out there and letting people know how your experience went.
I just hate it when I see endless complaints and it seems like none of it is fruitful. If you complain, that's good! Just try and make it count. Do more than complain, explain your situation so others can make informed decisions about which carrier to go to. Things like "XYZ Carrier SUCKS they should burn to the ground!" doesn't help anyone.
Not saying anyone here has done that! I just saw a stream of "random hate for various reasons" starting to come out, like I do everywhere, and wanted to encourage folks to try and make it count. And to understand how things operate a little bit better.
Happy hacking everyone
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I haven't compared their plans since summer, and at that point I'd compared their plans with VZN and Sprint, for someone else. At that time all 3 companies had the exact same plan offerings down to the feature and penny. Only difference was how each one billed data.
For this person, data wasn't an issue anyhow because they wanted a "regular" phone. So it came down to what phone they wanted, and they went VZN because ATT's regular phone selection blows whale chunks.
We didn't look at other smaller or competing providers because they didn't offer the same overall coverage as the big 3 did.
So what I'm saying is, I dunno what's out there now, but it seems the big 3 have similar plans as each other every time I look. Smaller competitors may have better options/plans/all-inclusive-stuff but again, you have to make sure it works for you.
And bear in mind one reason TMO scuttled the ship is because they were losing income fast.
Totally agree! "your mileage may vary", everyone's experience will be different. SprintPCS pissed me off years ago, one reason I was glad to drop them. They were undergoing heavy technical issues with their towers in our area, but because of how they had the phone programmed, even though it could roam digitally it didn't--they set it up to use their service only if we were near their signal.
Couldn't even dial 911 at one point, and I showed this to the techs. They tried with their phones.. same thing. The white-washed faces and lack of response said it all.
Prior to their working on the towers I dropped calls more frequently than I took steps walking. One time when I dropped my phone, the antenna broke off and part of the PCB was actually damaged--and it got a better signal.
Totally agree! They've got their reasons though. They're there to stay in business, we're here to make use of their service. It's a matter of keeping each-other happy.
I didn't mean to come off as a jerk and hope nobody took it as such. I'm a huge supporter of getting your complaints out there and letting people know how your experience went.
I just hate it when I see endless complaints and it seems like none of it is fruitful. If you complain, that's good! Just try and make it count. Do more than complain, explain your situation so others can make informed decisions about which carrier to go to. Things like "XYZ Carrier SUCKS they should burn to the ground!" doesn't help anyone.
Not saying anyone here has done that! I just saw a stream of "random hate for various reasons" starting to come out, like I do everywhere, and wanted to encourage folks to try and make it count. And to understand how things operate a little bit better.
Happy hacking everyone
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Ah, then we definitely agree. Thanks for clarifying your point. I understand completely. Cheers!
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Has anyone been caught / harassed by atnt for tethering or portable hotspot? I very rarely use these but have recently heard of them cracking down.
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Everyone seems to be returning their atrix :*( I don't wanna phone with no community to talk to so if thas the case ill ax mine.... but for what... the inspire isn't better I have had it
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I still have about 80 days to return/exchange mine, and I probably will if HTC has a nice high end dual core phone by then.
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Everyone seems to be returning their atrix :*( I don't wanna phone with no community to talk to so if thas the case ill ax mine.... but for what... the inspire isn't better I have had it
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That's how I feel. I got a few days left and I'm really considering just leaving AT&T all together because there is nothing in their lineup that I can think of that could replace the Atrix. It's sad, the best (Android) phone that AT&T has and I don't want it.
i'm keeping mine granted the locked bootloader up to now sux, but i really do like the phone alot, i find myself on it more than my IP4, when the IP5 comes out that may change tho lol
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I still have about 80 days to return/exchange mine, and I probably will if HTC has a nice high end dual core phone by then.
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How????
Haplodroid said:
I still have about 80 days to return/exchange mine, and I probably will if HTC has a nice high end dual core phone by then.
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How do you have 80 days? I am a new customer and I thought it was just 30 days.
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yes i am goin to return the phone soon i am leaving this group..
I'm planning on keeping mine until Motorola rolls out the Gingerbread update; I figure by that time, if the bootloader hasn't been cracked, and Gingerbread doesn't address all the issues I've got with the phone...I'll unlock it and sell it on eBay and go for something else. I'm trying to be patient, but it does seem like there's been an mass exodus of Atrix owners on XDA. There's really nothing I'd want more than the Atrix on AT&T though.
I just got to this party. Why is everyone leaving? Inspire isnt that much better, if at all. Im giving this atrix a run and it feels snappier than my inspire I just returned and this is basically stock.
i was thinking of returning my atrix but i plan on doing the same as KaLiBLeeK.
nothing really seems to interest me right but i have until the 9th of april
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How do you have 80 days? I am a new customer and I thought it was just 30 days.
Atrix4G Rooted!
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Costco has a 90 day return/exchange policy.
considering i've loved the phone with just stock UI and Go Launcher EX, i don't plan on returning it. i have to stay on AT&T, and nothing is really better. the inspire doesn't have an FFC, it's too big for me, and I like using the webtop interface on my TV when I need to.
what i'm really disappointed in is AT&T's rollout; absolutely ****ty network and trying to re-market it as "4G" when it's clearly not even close to max 3G speeds, and their utter lack of marketing for the phone.
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Costco has a 90 day return/exchange policy.
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Duh, I knew that lol. Too bad they wont sell them outright. Tried to buy a Captivate outright from them for that very reason but the refused.
dLo GSR said:
considering i've loved the phone with just stock UI and Go Launcher EX, i don't plan on returning it. i have to stay on AT&T, and nothing is really better. the inspire doesn't have an FFC, it's too big for me, and I like using the webtop interface on my TV when I need to.
what i'm really disappointed in is AT&T's rollout; absolutely ****ty network and trying to re-market it as "4G" when it's clearly not even close to max 3G speeds, and their utter lack of marketing for the phone.
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Where I live, AT&T's the only one with any real presence. Sprint and Verizon (Shockingly) are non existent. T-Mobile has very, VERY little reception.
Having it work at home is extremely important, so for all their faults, where I live, AT&T has been stellar.
Plus, I talk to some folks at a nearby store. Luckily, many of them seem to know what they're talking about. They know the difference between LTE and HSPA+ and all that.
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Where I live, AT&T's the only one with any real presence. Sprint and Verizon (Shockingly) are non existent. T-Mobile has very, VERY little reception.
Having it work at home is extremely important, so for all their faults, where I live, AT&T has been stellar.
Plus, I talk to some folks at a nearby store. Luckily, many of them seem to know what they're talking about. They know the difference between LTE and HSPA+ and all that.
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I should clarify. by "****ty network" I meant it's performance vs. expectations. I've had AT&T since forever and on my BB it was never a problem because I didn't do any heavy actions, since the BB OS and browser is way limited. Signal coverage in LA is great for me. however, data speeds usually crawl (1-2 Mbps) and that annoys me as my roommate will easily get 4-5 on his T-mo HSPA+ network.
AT&T shouldn't have jumped the gun by marketing out 4G when it clearly wasn't ready and/or activated in most areas. Nowhere i've gone in southern california (from LA to SD to inland) have I seen anything more than 3 Mbps, which is pitiful unfortunately.
Hell no. I love my Atrix
jange said:
Hell no. I love my Atrix
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I love mine too!!!
keeping my Atrix bought from at&t unlocked and using it on rogers in canada dvice and im coming from the nexus one and desire z and a slew of other android devices by far the best ive had and this laptop dock is so damn innovative i cant see my self with another device for a while.... even tho bootloader is locked i think moto really stepped up there game with this phone...
You would think that with this being motos most powerful phone they would want to push out 2.3 as quickly as possible. We have had this phone about a month and I have not heard anything from motorola. I hope they don't abandon the atrix because it wont be anythi.g more than a gimmick with the webtop functionality
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This is my first Android device. Came from all of the iPhones. I am very impressed and plan to keep it. 3 weeks in and I am still learning things!