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With the economy getting worse I'm trying to tighten my belt as best as I can. Right now I'm paying a lot to talk on my HTC Wizard using T-Mobile. One idea that popped in my head was to just get unlimited internet access to my phone and then use Skype to talk all I want, given that I pay for Skypes service to make calls to landlines. Course another beauty in this is that I can cancel my home phone number as well.
Here's my questions.
#1 Are there plans to pay for only unlimited internet access, doesn't have to be T-Mobile it just needs to work with my Wizard.
#2 Can signal quality really cause a lot of trouble with Skype?
#3 Does Skype work flawless on my Wizard, and if not explain?
If someone already does this can they give further input about this?
(bit late to reply maybe)
I tried skype in my wizard with T-Mobile.
It works but the processor is a bit slow for skype.
Sometimes I even had to reset the phone...
So, it's not an ideal solution, but it does work.
(for me at least )
skype is free with unlim inet
apart from if you call to real phone numbers
rather then to other computers using skype
if you use skypeout which is what skype call it when you
call a normal phone from skype rather then a skype user
they charge you and to be able to do so at all you
need a skype out account
Isn't there alternatives to using Skype software? The Wizard is buggy is general.
I'm also curious about this for my HTC Diamond.
Here is my solution, it's not free but I think it's resonable! I am using Kaiser with software called AGEPhone mobile 2, and I have a 3G connection with 384k speed,which cost 9,8 euro/month, with a voipstunt account, every deposit like 10 euros, I get 120 days free call to the landline(Finland), and 1 cent/min. to call China from Finland. I am pretty satisfy with the sound quality.
Unlimited Talk time
Try the new data network: zero1mobile. Unlimited data for $70 / month.
http://www.zer01mobile.com/
Is there any chance the Skype mobile apk file could be modified to work on T-Mo network?
Of course this thread might get the easy answers such as:
1) "No"
2) "It cant be done"
3) "It checks verizon's network?"
... but I'd be happier to hear from experts that know how it actually works/could be done.
Verizon skype apk: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rnwab1
No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.
Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off
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No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.
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LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul
ap3604 said:
LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul
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: P
Check out my second post (we posted at same time)
This might also help: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=264ef8ddf7c82bcc&hl=en
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Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off
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Yeah your right it is pretty crappy that Skype put those restrictions on it by sleeping with the enemy (Big Red).
I was just going to see if it could work on T-Mo though because then I could get my family members to use it as well and make good quality voip calls like I could on the iPhone version.
SIPdroid is dear to my heart but the quality on outbound calls is pretty unusable for me, inbound is still good though. I tell all my friends that "if you get a call from me, dont pick up and just call me back."
Fring 3g quality was serviceable before but it was laggy (I would say something and the other person would start talking and then mid sentence would hear what I said and it would mess up the conversation). It probably has had some updates though so I will try it out again.
dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.
3 has got this for a long time now (no Android client yet) but the acctual calling is routed using a gsm center, no VOIP at all. I have installed the apk for t-mobile and it almost does the same thing ( it doesn't work outside tm network)
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dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.
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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!
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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?
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Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)
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Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)
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How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..
Paul22000 said:
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!
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so does that mean I won't have to pay a monthly bill? I can just basically, use my google voice number through wifi?
ram130 said:
Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..
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@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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What do you have set for Google Voice settings?
Use for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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ask only for international calls. I have not setup vonage yet, gonna do it now and see what is possible. I'll update ya in a few.
Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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On my end I can guarantee that its making the calls through WiFi because of the data only plan I am on. T-Mo has two different types of $40/mo data plans:
1) $40/mo with T-mo hotspot access but cannot make ANY calls (except 911)
2) $40/mo without T-mo hotspot access but can make calls for $.10/min
I have the first option and if I try to make a regular call it says "the service you are attempting to use has been restricted or unavailable" and hangs up. Even if I try to make a call through GVoice it says the same thing so I know I cant make any cellular calls. But I can make a call through the Vonage app with WiFi (although I do have to have on Edge/3g with the WiFi your right).
I just checked my T-Mobile account as well and I dont see any minutes used either.
Now if only we can get this thing to think its on WiFi even if only on 3g!
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@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...
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I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...
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When I set GV to not call intercept, it will just call using my normal phone number. Vonage just sits there doing nothing.
A few times the Vonage dialer has popped up (if I had GV set to make ALL calls), but then Vonage crashed (Force Close).
Bleh, must be an issue with the Desire caller =\
Fring is flawless with skype dumb easy to setup for idiots like myself
I use it w/o a simcard in my g1 and keep my sim in the n1
I tried this vonage doesn't seem to work with the sim card out or in...if any one can post the correct steps to make domestic calls over wifi on the vonage app please(w/o a sim card it the only sure way to know its using wifi only)
Hi all, just wanted to know if any of the android builds or winmo roms allow WiFi calling, because I get no service in my house in nyc..Ty all
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BUMP. Cannot get any service within my college dorm either (yet outside, there are 5 bars and no network connectivity issues). I've been reading up on T-mobile wireless frequencies and their inability to effectively penetrate walls and other surfaces.
Here is the forum post from the Nexus boards (unfortunately a bit above my technological knowledge).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807116
Apparently to get wifi calling working, kernel-deep implementation must be applied before the app is even installed.
Google voice, although I believe you have to use a different number. On the plus side you can use gvoice over 3g as well
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dung8604 said:
Google voice, although I believe you have to use a different number. On the plus side you can use gvoice over 3g as well
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Calls with GV android still go out over a standard cellular network so therefore this doesn't work in the case where you have no network access. An alternative is to use a SIP service in combination with GV which is terribly unreliable (I can speak from experience of using a variety of SIP services, et.al) and also uses a different telephone number which isn't ideal in my case. Thank you for the suggestion though.
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Calls with GV android still go out over a standard cellular network so therefore this doesn't work in the case where you have no network access. An alternative is to use a SIP service in combination with GV which is terribly unreliable (I can speak from experience of using a variety of SIP services, et.al) and also uses a different telephone number which isn't ideal in my case. Thank you for the suggestion though.
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LOL, are we at the same school? No signal whatsoever when I was in my freshman dorm... Damn the walls were thick!
I had a backberry back then, which supports Wifi calling.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774672
looks like cmyxlgo has it going in this thread (link above). do you know if this still takes minutes from your plan.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774672
looks like cmyxlgo has it going in this thread (link above). do you know if this still takes minutes from your plan.
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Unfortunately yes it does take away from your minutes. T-Mobile decided to get rid of the '$20 unlimited wifi calling package' in exchange for the new UMA service. Its primary purpose now is to provide service where there isn't any and/or to allow customers traveling internationally to make phone calls using their plan minutes over wifi--completely avoiding the need for an overseas phone/plan.
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Unfortunately yes it does take away from your minutes. T-Mobile decided to get rid of the '$20 unlimited wifi calling package' in exchange for the new UMA service. Its primary purpose now is to provide service where there isn't any and/or to allow customers traveling internationally to make phone calls using their plan minutes over wifi--completely avoiding the need for an overseas phone/plan.
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thanks, that is what i was afraid of. they also got rid of "my Faves", which eliminated free calling with google voice. has anyone had any luck with fring ?
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Unfortunately yes it does take away from your minutes. T-Mobile decided to get rid of the '$20 unlimited wifi calling package' in exchange for the new UMA service. Its primary purpose now is to provide service where there isn't any and/or to allow customers traveling internationally to make phone calls using their plan minutes over wifi--completely avoiding the need for an overseas phone/plan.
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So, if you travel internationaly you're not charged roaming if you use your phone over wifi calling?. You just use your plan minutes as if they were domestic?
roycio said:
So, if you travel internationaly you're not charged roaming if you use your phone over wifi calling?. You just use your plan minutes as if they were domestic?
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WIFI Calling takes your call from anywhere in the world and routes it back to the states as if you were next to a T-Mobile tower. This doesn't mean that you can call a number that would be classified as roaming at no cost. For example, if you are in a London hotel and connect your phone via wifi to call a local London restaurant for reservations, this would be considered an international phone call. However, if you just call your friends and family with their US based area codes, you would just be using your minutes.
Source:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/t-mobile-androids-getting-wi-fi-calling/
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WIFI Calling takes your call from anywhere in the world and routes it back to the states as if you were next to a T-Mobile tower. This doesn't mean that you can call a number that would be classified as roaming at no cost. For example, if you are in a London hotel and connect your phone via wifi to call a local London restaurant for reservations, this would be considered an international phone call. However, if you just call your friends and family with their US based area codes, you would just be using your minutes.
Source:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/t-mobile-androids-getting-wi-fi-calling/
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Understood, thank you. Do you know if the sms work the same way or is only for voice?
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Understood, thank you. Do you know if the sms work the same way or is only for voice?
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Yeah SMS works the same way. I really wish I could get this to work for me as well. But Wifi calling doesn't work on the newest HD2 Android builds.
Has anybody been able to get WIFI calling to work on TMOUS, NAND?
Doesn't seem that the Devs really care about this. It's hard to even find any info. I wish this could be done as Then I could replace my wife's blackberry with UMA with my Spare HD2.
I see one dev who seems to care. Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927671
Notice where it says:
Coming Soon:
Kineto GAN interface(based on CM kernel style to help work on T-Mo US Wifi Calling)
Kineto is the company that created an app that can do wifi calling for certain android phones and the app was (I think) successfully ported to the Nexus One. It doesn't do cell tower to wifi handoffs because that is apparently a chip-based feature and this is purely a software solution.
dublus said:
I see one dev who seems to care. Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927671
Notice where it says:
Coming Soon:
Kineto GAN interface(based on CM kernel style to help work on T-Mo US Wifi Calling)
Kineto is the company that created an app that can do wifi calling for certain android phones and the app was (I think) successfully ported to the Nexus One. It doesn't do cell tower to wifi handoffs because that is apparently a chip-based feature and this is purely a software solution.
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Yep. One of the smartest user comments all day
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Hi Folks,
So I am not a programmer but an avid user of technology. On my tab I can:
Send and receive SMS to my permanent number, and when someone calls me, the call is forwarded to my work cell. Out bound calls go from my work phone (with or without Google Voice). Or I can use the Google Voice web interface to dial and then Google calls my work phone and the other phone.
The Tab # call forwarding is as far as I can tell not an official feature offered by VZW. In fact most of the folks I spoke to, at VZW, swore up and down that it wouldn't work.
Here is what I did:
Activated call forwarding from the regular cell on my permanent line.
Got a Tab, with its own #. Then swapped the two numbers and the call forwarding stuck.
I think there are about 4 people out there that this will be useful for but none the less all 5 of us will revel in our geekyness. (Insert mad scientist laughter here)
The advantage of all this is that I can finally get my SMS messages without carrying 2 "phones" (yes now I carry a tab and a work phone, that is bulkier package, yes, stop pointing out the obvious. This is only for a total of me and the 4 others remember? haha)
PS. Any programmers reading this, a clean Dialer app for the Tab that interfaces with the Google web dial feature would be awesome.
Hey I'm one of those four that appreciates the suggestion and idea! Ended up borrowing a friends old turd phone to port my ATT number to Verizon on. After it was activated and working I setup call forwarding to forward to my Skype number then immediately had them transfer that number to my new unactivated Galaxy Tab.
Works great have my same old cell phone number that I can text and pictures message and at the same time get calls automatically sent to my Skype so it's transparent to everyone calling me. Went ahead and set up Caller ID on Skype to appear as that same old cell phone number.
Thanks works great here as well hopefully they don't disable that down the line .
i just dont get why people would buy sprint or verizon tab? you can't do much with them, to me the GSM versions are the best.
Verizon has much better 3G coverage then both ATT and T-Mobile combined. Add to that Skype calling is $2.99 a month unlimited and works pretty great. Consider those using Skype need some strong and consistant 3G traveling.
Does this work with a Bluetooth ?
Morkai Almandragon said:
Does this work with a Bluetooth ?
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Current modded Skype app (allows 3G calling) supports media profile only meaning only sound no mic support from the bluetooth headset. It's not that bad in my opinion you just need the tab in your immediate space.
Apparently it's partially a limitation with the Skype app, there is a much newer version out that might have added full bluetooth support but I haven't seen anyone mod it for 3G calling yet (keeping eyes peeled).
Maybe not everyone wants to make carrier based calls on their Tab? I know I have no desire to do that. I have a Sprint Tab and can do exactly what I want with it. I don't need a 7" phone. I bought my EVO for that =)
Carrier based calls on my cell and voip calls on my Tab for when I am going to have long work related calls (once they fix the BT profile that is)
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
WarlockLord said:
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
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I'm still new to android. Do you mind explaining how you set up superior with google voice. Don't know how to use superior.
WarlockLord said:
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
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I'm also using sipdroid to make free calls thru google voice but how do you configure sipdroid to receive calls thru your google voice number? Bluetooth works for me though
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I am now using the free CSipSimple app with a trial of Sipgate SIP service and Google Voice service.
I am giving out the GV# to my contacts so that I can change SIP or VOIP carriers without affecting the way I am contacted ever again. To do this I am forwarding calls that are made to the GV# to my Sipgate number, and in the future, any SIP or VOIP number I may end up with.
Sipgate seems pretty reasonable beyond the trial in that it costs 1.9 cents per miniute and you just load your account with credit when you need it. I am using the "Voice" GV app on my tab to handle text messaging to the same GV#, so that GV# is used for both text and voice.
Now to find a reasonable unlimited data plan.
Honestly for what Skype cost a month for unlimited calling in the US and Canada ($2.99 a month) it's a hard to beat option. I simply forward my cellphone/tab number and GV# to Skype and I have Skype caller ID setup to display my GV# when I make calls out.
Add in the latest release 1.0.0.614 (1.0.1) fixes every single shortfall with the Skype app including more notifications for chat and everything else, no more signing out / time outs (8 hours strong without touching the tab still signed in and running), contact integration, etc. I'm using a modded apk for 614 that allows incoming and outgoing calls on 3G and it works without issue.
I may look into Sipdroid and Sipgate as alternatives but for the price Skype works great and has a great backbone as well (considering it's size and use).
Can you post the link for .614? ....
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Well I hit the dreaded bug we've been experiencing on 614 since adding the 3G hack "Already 2 ongoing calls, you must end one call before you can start another one". So it worked great and then now road block , reboot and flush and still the same thing it's like it magically can't call out from 3G (strange).
I'll report as I figure it out.
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I am now using the free CSipSimple app with a trial of Sipgate SIP service and Google Voice service.
I am giving out the GV# to my contacts so that I can change SIP or VOIP carriers without affecting the way I am contacted ever again. To do this I am forwarding calls that are made to the GV# to my Sipgate number, and in the future, any SIP or VOIP number I may end up with.
Sipgate seems pretty reasonable beyond the trial in that it costs 1.9 cents per miniute and you just load your account with credit when you need it. I am using the "Voice" GV app on my tab to handle text messaging to the same GV#, so that GV# is used for both text and voice.
Now to find a reasonable unlimited data plan.
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Does anyone have this working over bluetooth on a Verizon SGT?
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Does anyone have this working over bluetooth on a Verizon SGT?
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Do you mean working over a bluetooth headset?
i have tmobile, i can forward calls to my tmobile number to google voice and have it work over 3g or wifi?
i get a very bad signal only at home and cant make calls sometimes, so when someone calls my number itll just send to GV instead?
*i have unlimited data and a voice plan with tmobile*
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Do you mean working over a bluetooth headset?
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Sorry. Yes, over a bluetooth headset.
magnum_touchpro said:
i have tmobile, i can forward calls to my tmobile number to google voice and have it work over 3g or wifi?
i get a very bad signal only at home and cant make calls sometimes, so when someone calls my number itll just send to GV instead?
*i have unlimited data and a voice plan with tmobile*
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With Google Voice you can forward calls to multiple devices, including your cell phone, or your land line if signal strength is poor at home. Alternatively, Skype over WiFi can be very cool and very cheap - I use Skype on my tab for all outgoing calls from home as I have a poor cell signal.
GV is more than just Visual VM for Android - it is opening the door to a new generation of voice communications that will leave telephone numbers as obsolete as the old Compuserve numbers...
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With Google Voice you can forward calls to multiple devices, including your cell phone, or your land line if signal strength is poor at home. Alternatively, Skype over WiFi can be very cool and very cheap - I use Skype on my tab for all outgoing calls from home as I have a poor cell signal.
GV is more than just Visual VM for Android - it is opening the door to a new generation of voice communications that will leave telephone numbers as obsolete as the old Compuserve numbers...
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thanks i have it set up and will test it out when i switch over to 3g, my plan was to switch over to 3g and disable the phone but if someone calls my tmobile # it can forward to google voice and ring me while on 3g.. hopefully this works lol
Well today I finally had enough of my crappy lack of coverage with att, and called their cancelations line.
Once on the line I asked how much it would cost me to cut ties with them. The csr on the phone gave me the info and then asked why I wanted to leave them. I was honest and told them I didn't want to leave but as it stands, I have virtually no coverage where I live and can not make phone calls. I also explained that it had been that way for years and I was tired of having no service and having to call and register complaints daily.
Well after I finished he told me I could have a microcell for free. He notated my account and then told me to just stop by the local store and they would give it to me.
I now have a nice little microcell in the house.
Figured I would share with all those who Need one and can't get it.
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So you're paying to fix AT&T's problem? MicroCell's are the second biggest scam on the planet.
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So you're paying to fix AT&T's problem? MicroCell's are the second biggest scam on the planet.
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He said it was free..how is he paying?I mean yeah he has to pay for his service but thats nothing new, he'd been doing that...
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So you're paying to fix AT&T's problem? MicroCell's are the second biggest scam on the planet.
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If you had read my other post on this subject a month ago, you would know my thoughts on microcells and AT&Ts scam. Trust me, I ranted and raved enough on it.
The device itself is a good idea as a great deal of my calls are VOIP calls anyways. If I am going to use my network to make phone calls, I might as well use the Micro Cell I got for free to make certain my business clients can call me when I am at home.
As for the plan they offer, I did not need to sign up for the $20 a month plan for unlimited calling because with A List, Mobile to Mobile, Night and weekends, and 1400 minutes with rollover, I never need extra minutes. I think I used 800 minutes last month on the minutes portion and probably 3000 plus on the other portions.
Remember, the microcell only works with my devices or ones I list (up to 10) so everyone else in my neighborhood can either kiss off or go get their own.
joshyy_rey said:
He said it was free..how is he paying?I mean yeah he has to pay for his service but thats nothing new, he'd been doing that...
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Because he is using his electricity and bandwidth because AT&T's inadequate network. I think the microcell is a crock too. Whats a even bigger crock is people tht have to pay for it. Not only they pay for the device, an extra fee in addition to the above.
I would rather see them adopt Tmobile's Wifi calling.. Free, no extra devices to plug in, and it's use is purely up to the user.
I have spotty coverage at home and work. Should I have to buy two microcells or use use the existing Wifi at both locations?
My .02
joshyy_rey said:
He said it was free..how is he paying?I mean yeah he has to pay for his service but thats nothing new, he'd been doing that...
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Unless AT&T is reimbursing him for the data, he's paying for it. Doesn't matter if he would have already had internet service or not. With microcells the carrier doesn't have to fix their network, they just have to sell people these little boxes and still charge too much for their service.
DarrellRaines said:
Remember, the microcell only works with my devices or ones I list (up to 10) so everyone else in my neighborhood can either kiss off or go get their own.
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Cool, they changed the software then. Before it was those 10 get preference, but there was no way to exempt other phones from using it.
"I would rather see them adopt Tmobile's Wifi calling.. Free, no extra devices to plug in, and it's use is purely up to the user."
Since this is about an ANDROID phone...You can do the same thing, unlimited WiFi VOIP calling with your Atrix and any WiFi connection.
The poorly documented solution is to get a GoogleVoice number, and enable GVoice on your cell phone. Once you enable it, it will always pop up before a call is placed, asking you if you want to place it with GVoice (over WiFi) or not. If you select GVoice it uses your GVoice number and the free wifi. If you say not, it uses the cellular.
And if you just give people your GVoice number, you get their calls no matter where you are or what phone is ringing, they all work together. You just don't need to give out your cell phone number, you just say "this (gvoice) number rings all my phones."
There's a lot more it can do.
Rred said:
"I would rather see them adopt Tmobile's Wifi calling.. Free, no extra devices to plug in, and it's use is purely up to the user."
Since this is about an ANDROID phone...You can do the same thing, unlimited WiFi VOIP calling with your Atrix and any WiFi connection.
The poorly documented solution is to get a GoogleVoice number, and enable GVoice on your cell phone. Once you enable it, it will always pop up before a call is placed, asking you if you want to place it with GVoice (over WiFi) or not. If you select GVoice it uses your GVoice number and the free wifi. If you say not, it uses the cellular.
And if you just give people your GVoice number, you get their calls no matter where you are or what phone is ringing, they all work together. You just don't need to give out your cell phone number, you just say "this (gvoice) number rings all my phones."
There's a lot more it can do.
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I finally got that working with PBXes and Sipdroid but it wasn't nearly user friendly as T-Mo's official offering. My biggest qualm was having my google password stored insecurely on PBXes servers.
Sorry for the threadjack
Rred said:
"I would rather see them adopt Tmobile's Wifi calling.. Free, no extra devices to plug in, and it's use is purely up to the user."
Since this is about an ANDROID phone...You can do the same thing, unlimited WiFi VOIP calling with your Atrix and any WiFi connection.
The poorly documented solution is to get a GoogleVoice number, and enable GVoice on your cell phone. Once you enable it, it will always pop up before a call is placed, asking you if you want to place it with GVoice (over WiFi) or not. If you select GVoice it uses your GVoice number and the free wifi. If you say not, it uses the cellular.
And if you just give people your GVoice number, you get their calls no matter where you are or what phone is ringing, they all work together. You just don't need to give out your cell phone number, you just say "this (gvoice) number rings all my phones."
There's a lot more it can do.
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Google Voice uses data to tell Google that you are dialing through the google voice number. It has never been wifi calling and it probably never will be. I don't know where you got that idea, I've been using google voice since day one. The only 'wifi' part is if you call from google talk or gmail. (Why can't you call on the Google Voice page???)
scoob8000 said:
Because he is using his electricity and bandwidth because AT&T's inadequate network. I think the microcell is a crock too. Whats a even bigger crock is people tht have to pay for it. Not only they pay for the device, an extra fee in addition to the above.
I would rather see them adopt Tmobile's Wifi calling.. Free, no extra devices to plug in, and it's use is purely up to the user.
I have spotty coverage at home and work. Should I have to buy two microcells or use use the existing Wifi at both locations?
My .02
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Ahhh gotcha..never really looked at it that way ha
barry99705 said:
Unless AT&T is reimbursing him for the data, he's paying for it. Doesn't matter if he would have already had internet service or not. With microcells the carrier doesn't have to fix their network, they just have to sell people these little boxes and still charge too much for their service.
Cool, they changed the software then. Before it was those 10 get preference, but there was no way to exempt other phones from using it.
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I've had the microcell from the day it launched. I always had to authorize a number before it could connect to the microcell.
Guys, I posted this as a help post for those that need it, not to start an argument over our crappy carriers towers.
Yes I am using my bandwidth and electricity, but i am willing to sacrifice a. Dollar or two a. Month for better service and considering I have a 60 meg down and 6 meg up circuit, I think I can spare the bandwidth.
For those who don't know, you don't have to have the unlimited $20 a month microcell calling feature if you don't want it.
Now let's just. Let those who need the information and device know how to get. If. Free.
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Before it was those 10 get preference, but there was no way to exempt other phones from using it.
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Wrong. I wont elaborate, your just wrong.
Kind of related and kind of not:
Today for the first time I had to unplug the microcell and use Atts service at the house.. I was uploading (a lot of) music to the cloud and on Charter I only get 2up. I could hear everybody just fine (download), but I was told my words (upload) were cutting in and out. Only one bar here w Att but it was better than with the Mcell, or so I was told. First time thats happened in a year, but def not the first time Ive been uploading + talking.
I love people that hate on the micro cell. If you have bad service with Verizon, guess what your options are? Shove off, or go to RadioShack and buy a signal repeater, which the cheapest one is $250 and can only support one active connection at a time. You'll spend $350-$400 for on one that can support up to 4 connections. Oh, and if it can't grab signal, your sol. No, AT&T isn't going to spend $6m to put a tower in everyone's backyard. Almost everyone who is in a bad coverage area has a free MicroCell offer on their account. Go to your local store, and ask them to check your PCA, they will probably have you listed for a free one, then your on your way. If a microcell uses $0.10 in electricity per month, I'd be surprised.
The micro cell has always forced you to provision 10 numbers, and all others can not access your data. Don't make stuff up just to make someone look bad please.
WiredPirate said:
Wrong. I wont elaborate, your just wrong.
Kind of related and kind of not:
Today for the first time I had to unplug the microcell and use Atts service at the house.. I was uploading (a lot of) music to the cloud and on Charter I only get 2up. I could hear everybody just fine (download), but I was told my words (upload) were cutting in and out. Only one bar here w Att but it was better than with the Mcell, or so I was told. First time thats happened in a year, but def not the first time Ive been uploading + talking.
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Are you a google music beta user? If so the app by dsfualt uses the maximum bandwidth possible for uploads. Try dropping the upload to a max of 512kps or switch you router to use qos for the device.
Just a thought.
For all you fks arvueing about the google voice calling, i assure you, google voice is not a voip client by default. It does nit give you wifi calling. It only connects to data the first few seconds in order to make the call and then you use you regular cell minutes.
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link12245 said:
I love people that hate on the micro cell. If you have bad service with Verizon, guess what your options are? Shove off, or go to RadioShack and buy a signal repeater, which the cheapest one is $250 and can only support one active connection at a time. You'll spend $350-$400 for on one that can support up to 4 connections. Oh, and if it can't grab signal, your sol. No, AT&T isn't going to spend $6m to put a tower in everyone's backyard. Almost everyone who is in a bad coverage area has a free MicroCell offer on their account. Go to your local store, and ask them to check your PCA, they will probably have you listed for a free one, then your on your way. If a microcell uses $0.10 in electricity per month, I'd be surprised.
The micro cell has always forced you to provision 10 numbers, and all others can not access your data. Don't make stuff up just to make someone look bad please.
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More wrong.
Verizon has a femtocell too, its called the "network extender".
Whats with all the misinformation in this thread!?
DarrellRaines said:
Are you a google music beta user? If so the app by dsfualt uses the maximum bandwidth possible for uploads. Try dropping the upload to a max of 512kps or switch you router to use qos for the device.
Just a thought.
For all you fks arvueing about the google voice calling, i assure you, google voice is not a voip client by default. It does nit give you wifi calling. It only connects to data the first few seconds in order to make the call and then you use you regular cell minutes.
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Thanks for the gMusic tip, I have that account but Im using mostly Amazon.
I had thought about the setting the QoS, i may search for the ports later today.
GrooveIP will let you make calls with your GV# over internet, no service, no sim required.
Mgamerz, you shold try reading a post and then finding out for yourself if it is true, before you say it is impossible.
Let me repeat this in small clear words: YOU CAN PLACE GVOICE CALLS, USING YOUR WIFI CONNECTION AND ZERO CELLULAR DATA OR VOICE TIME, FROM ANY ANDROID PHONE.
The Google Voice software that ships for every Android phone, has a POORLY DOCUMENTED OPTION that allows for a pop-up box on the cell phone every time you place an outgoing call. Assuming thta your cell phone HAS A WIFI RADIO and HAS AN ACTIVE WIFI CONNECTION, to your own router, or Starbuck's, or whoever?
That pop-up tells GVoice to either:
a) place the call use GVoice over Wifi instead of using the cellular system, having GVoice connect to both parties the same way it would if you placed the call from your computer, or
b) step aside and let the cell phone place a celluar call over the cell system as it normally would.
If you have an Android phone, and you have Google Voice installed on it, look at the options to "Use Google Voice". It isn't obvious, but it is there, and I use it every day without using any cellular minutes. My counter widgets confirm this. So does my bill.
OH DUH! The geeks at Google are just real real poor at documentation. With all their products, not just this one.
Rred said:
Mgamerz, you shold try reading a post and then finding out for yourself if it is true, before you say it is impossible.
Let me repeat this in small clear words: YOU CAN PLACE GVOICE CALLS, USING YOUR WIFI CONNECTION AND ZERO CELLULAR DATA OR VOICE TIME, FROM ANY ANDROID PHONE.
The Google Voice software that ships for every Android phone, has a POORLY DOCUMENTED OPTION that allows for a pop-up box on the cell phone every time you place an outgoing call. Assuming thta your cell phone HAS A WIFI RADIO and HAS AN ACTIVE WIFI CONNECTION, to your own router, or Starbuck's, or whoever?
That pop-up tells GVoice to either:
a) place the call use GVoice over Wifi instead of using the cellular system, having GVoice connect to both parties the same way it would if you placed the call from your computer, or
b) step aside and let the cell phone place a celluar call over the cell system as it normally would.
If you have an Android phone, and you have Google Voice installed on it, look at the options to "Use Google Voice". It isn't obvious, but it is there, and I use it every day without using any cellular minutes. My counter widgets confirm this. So does my bill.
OH DUH! The geeks at Google are just real real poor at documentation. With all their products, not just this one.
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Wow at the lies.
Take your sim card out, you wont be able to make calls. Same if you dont have cell coverage, you WONT be able to make calls. Unless you are using GrooveIP, this app will allow voip calling w/o coverage.
Google voice alone will not provide a true VOIP calling experience, you must also have cell coverage. The end.
Rred said:
Mgamerz, you shold try reading a post and then finding out for yourself if it is true, before you say it is impossible.
Let me repeat this in small clear words: YOU CAN PLACE GVOICE CALLS, USING YOUR WIFI CONNECTION AND ZERO CELLULAR DATA OR VOICE TIME, FROM ANY ANDROID PHONE.
The Google Voice software that ships for every Android phone, has a POORLY DOCUMENTED OPTION that allows for a pop-up box on the cell phone every time you place an outgoing call. Assuming thta your cell phone HAS A WIFI RADIO and HAS AN ACTIVE WIFI CONNECTION, to your own router, or Starbuck's, or whoever?
That pop-up tells GVoice to either:
a) place the call use GVoice over Wifi instead of using the cellular system, having GVoice connect to both parties the same way it would if you placed the call from your computer, or
b) step aside and let the cell phone place a celluar call over the cell system as it normally would.
If you have an Android phone, and you have Google Voice installed on it, look at the options to "Use Google Voice". It isn't obvious, but it is there, and I use it every day without using any cellular minutes. My counter widgets confirm this. So does my bill.
OH DUH! The geeks at Google are just real real poor at documentation. With all their products, not just this one.
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Wow you sir are an idiot. That function is to send out the calls via you gv number or your cell number, not route all calls through a magical nonexistent voip service that google offers.
Wiredpirate is correct that the only way to do it is through a voice service that he mentioned or through another sip gateway
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