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Hero vs. other phones re: speed

Hi all,
First post, but I've been lurking for a bit.
Anyway, I just got my Hero with Sprint about a week ago and am running DamageControl's current ROM. It's a killer phone, but from what I understand the Droid has more processing power. I've got another 3 weeks to give back everything and get free Droids with Verizon.
I know this is a Hero forum, but I wondered if anybody knew of a "benchmarking" resource for all Android phones.....
thanks!
PS You guys are amazing! I can't believe the amount of product that comes out of this board.

as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)

mountaindont said:
as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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Or wait for the one after that with the dual-core 1.5ghz snapdragon...

regaw_leinad said:
Or wait for the one after that with the dual-core 1.5ghz snapdragon...
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or wait for the one after that with the 2TB internal storage and stock blowjob app.
whats after that? lol
i like the hero and am willing to stick with it until the evo, and as for whatever comes out after that...i dont know. (android, htc, ect) will eventually release their own iPad, im sure, but i guess its a matter of what YOU want. i got a great plan with sprint (54$ for unlmtd everything) with great coverage (detroit it a major city, its bound to be set up good for the 3G user) and a highly customizable phone to say the least (ill admit i was disappointed when i got the hero, learned of the nexus and all the new upncumins) and am excited to move onto the evo, and can wait patiently.
well, idk about patiently...but ill be waiting...

mountaindont said:
stock blowjob app.
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I got the leaked version and backported it to the hero...
pm me if you want it

regaw_leinad said:
I got the leaked version and backported it to the hero...
pm me if you want it
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You know you just indirectly asked him if he wanted a blowjob..

Decad3nce said:
You know you just indirectly asked him if he wanted a blowjob..
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whoops.... not really what I meant. It's 3:45am. I need sleep. Working on version 300434 beta 98 of my rom lol

regaw_leinad said:
whoops.... not really what I meant. It's 3:45am. I need sleep. Working on version 300434 beta 98 of my rom lol
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lol funny read
looking forward to the beta, PM if youd like me to diagnose dr
and its kewl about the BJ app, i found a freshly seeded torrent, multiported(wtf?) for any phone/ROM

mountaindont said:
as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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I was able to see the evo up and running the other day.... WOW. Slim and sleek and very fast... took about a 1/3 or less of the time it took the Hero to open stuff. It was running on 2.1 as well and look really similar to Damages 2.1v5 ROM. This handset is going to really help out Sprint. Only thing the one I saw lacking was they hadn't activated the 4g on it yet.

mountaindont said:
as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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Yeah, after studying competing prices, I don't know that I could stomach what everybody else is charging. I just don't get how anybody is competing with Sprint at this point!
I'm paying $129 -%15 for two lines, 1500 minutes, web, txt, and mobile-to-mobile. ANYBODY else charges $40-80 a month more!
I guess it's good for us they're so desperate for customers
PS I'm curious as to the price of the EVO. Any guesses?

lattiboy said:
Yeah, after studying competing prices, I don't know that I could stomach what everybody else is charging. I just don't get how anybody is competing with Sprint at this point!
I'm paying $129 -%15 for 1500 minutes, web, txt, and mobile-to-mobile. ANYBODY else charges $40-80 a month more!
I guess it's good for us they're so desperate for customers
PS I'm curious as to the price of the EVO. Any guesses?
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with contract? maybe 250 with a rebate? i honestly could NOT even begin to speculate

something i sorely missed somehow
the evo has a fn kickstand?!?!

regaw_leinad said:
I got the leaked version and backported it to the hero...
pm me if you want it
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Hehehe leaked version, sounds a bit premature if ya know what I mean.

josh_131 said:
I was able to see the evo up and running the other day.... WOW. Slim and sleek and very fast... took about a 1/3 or less of the time it took the Hero to open stuff. It was running on 2.1 as well and look really similar to Damages 2.1v5 ROM. This handset is going to really help out Sprint. Only thing the one I saw lacking was they hadn't activated the 4g on it yet.
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HTC is hacking 4G support into the Evo. Just like they did with CDMA

abcdfv said:
HTC is hacking 4G support into the Evo. Just like they did with CDMA
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At least until the next android update (Froyo) is out. I believe Froyo is supposed to support 4G natively

haha, yeah it does. they had it on another phone of theirs in the past (winmo). I wonder what video formats will be supported natively. I hope they add .avi support.
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im still stuck on the freaking kickstand.

Just ask regaw_leinad for a copy of his backported leaky bj app...that'll take your mind off things for awhile.
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id love to see a full working port of android for the tp2, id hop on that super quick. the design and screen resolution is awesome. other than that id say if you want fast wait for the n1 or evo.

mountaindont said:
.. And stock blowjob app.
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do want.
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Stock 2.2 eventually?

I know Froyo was just recently announced, and the incredible has yet to be rooted, but assuming that it eventually does get rooted, is it unreasonable to assume there will be a way to get a stock 2.2 ROM onto a rooted incredible?
I just read over on engadget that "most" HTC devices will get Froyo by the end of the year, and being a sense-based device, I would assume it would be receiving a Sense-ified 2.2. Thanks for all the help.

morkon said:
I know Froyo was just recently announced, and the incredible has yet to be rooted, but assuming that it eventually does get rooted, is it unreasonable to assume there will be a way to get a stock 2.2 ROM onto a rooted incredible?
I just read over on engadget that "most" HTC devices will get Froyo by the end of the year, and being a sense-based device, I would assume it would be receiving a Sense-ified 2.2. Thanks for all the help.
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Just a few threads down this is being discussed. It looks like Evo, Droid, Incredible will be getting it in June. This is not a huge leap like it was going from 1.6 to 2.1. It shouldn't take too long for this to be rolled to all.

Gimpeh said:
Just a few threads down this is being discussed. It looks like Evo, Droid, Incredible will be getting it in June. This is not a huge leap like it was going from 1.6 to 2.1. It shouldn't take too long for this to be rolled to all.
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Where'd you hear we're getting it in June?

Its the same URL you posted in a previous thread-
http://www.timesnewsline.com/news/F...Motorola-Droid--Nexus-One-In-June-1274383704/

Gimpeh said:
Its the same URL you posted in a previous thread-
http://www.timesnewsline.com/news/F...Motorola-Droid--Nexus-One-In-June-1274383704/
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The Droid Incredible and the Droid are two different phones by two different manufacturers.
For our phones there's no specific information, just that Droid Incredible and other flagship phones are a priority.

I would guess that if the EVO gets it, we are too, considering they're both CDMA, SenseUI, and are the flagship android phones for the carrier they're on. it wouldn't make sense not to.

Yes yes, as I pointed out in that thread. I was piggy backing off of your hope and optimism. My bad.

Gimpeh said:
Yes yes, as I pointed out in that thread. I was piggy backing off of your hope and optimism. My bad.
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I never implied we were getting it in June. All I ever said was that the N1 and Droid were getting it in June, because they're both stock Android.
The only way we're getting it in June is if we manage to root by then and can install a port.
Even if we don't, we'll be among the first SenseUI phones to get it. When exactly that is depends on a lot of things, how different the API for 2.2 is, how long it takes HTC to produce Sense for 2.2, how long carrier testing takes, whether there's an early leak, etc

Well I can tell you this much, jit and sense do not play nice together, so it may be awhile for HTC to get all the bugs worked out.

Its supposed to be way faster than even 2.1 so on our device it should be awesome. I just wish (though I doubt HTC will do it) they would give us the option to turn off Sense UI. Its nice but it really should be optional. That would make 2.2 complete for me without rooting. Otherwise this phone will never be complete for me until rooted.

binny1007 said:
Well I can tell you this much, jit and sense do not play nice together, so it may be awhile for HTC to get all the bugs worked out.
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Sorry if this question has been asked in any of the other threads involving Froyo - but are there any specific reasons why SenseUI and JIT don't work well together? Is this based on experiences with custom ROMs for other devices using JIT and SenseUI or is this something that's a bit more officially recognized?

aol8mydog said:
Sorry if this question has been asked in any of the other threads involving Froyo - but are there any specific reasons why SenseUI and JIT don't work well together? Is this based on experiences with custom ROMs for other devices using JIT and SenseUI or is this something that's a bit more officially recognized?
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This is based off of others using a incomplete version of JIT from eclair and attempting to use it on eclair.

as soon as my incredible has root with custom recovery i will be releasing a 2.2 custom froyo rom based on stock 2.2 as well as porting any 2.2 sense leaks that are released. all we need is root

heavensblade23 said:
I never implied we were getting it in June. All I ever said was that the N1 and Droid were getting it in June, because they're both stock Android.
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n1 already has froyo

Edit: Nm, maybe I'm wrong?

doom22 said:
n1 already has froyo
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Like ONE person on the interweb claims he's gotten an OTA update...

seanmcd72 said:
Like ONE person on the interweb claims he's gotten an OTA update...
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And that person has alot of credibility.

seanmcd72 said:
Like ONE person on the interweb claims he's gotten an OTA update...
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A lot of us actually.

For those of you interested in what HTC has to say about phones getting 2.2.
Prodded on the subject by Pocket-lint, the company has replied that it's starting out with the Desire and Incredible and working through other "hotly anticipated new phones,"
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/htc-most-phones-launched-in-2010-will-get-android-2-2/

TooSlo said:
For those of you interested in what HTC has to say about phones getting 2.2...
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Good to know =). Now all I have to do is wait for Asia to build my phone and send it to me... not sure which will take longer at this point o.x

When, when, when!?

I have a rooted Evo running 2.3, and I know a lot of you won't want to take time to help a fellow OP out, but. When will Sprint release an OTA 2.3 update for the HTC Evo 4G? Any ideas? Facts?
Youre input would be much appreciated, thnx.
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Probably never...it's been suggested that manufacturers will be skipping 2.3 and just move to 2.4.
And Sprint won't be releasing anything anyway, this is all on HTC.
Manufacturers make the updates, send to carriers, carriers approve and and bloatware apps and release.

Yeah 2.4 sorry, so probably not then? Wow that's lame.
mattykinsx said:
Probably never...it's been suggested that manufacturers will be skipping 2.3 and just move to 2.4.
And Sprint won't be releasing anything anyway, this is all on HTC.
Manufacturers make the updates, send to carriers, carriers approve and and bloatware apps and release.
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Gilly11277 said:
Yeah 2.4 sorry, so probably not then? Wow that's lame.
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What do you mean probably not then?
My guess would be within the next 45 days.
We know the Evo is getting Gingerbread [2.3/2.4] so it will come.
It makes sense that it would come before Spring.

Ohh he meant sprint doesn't release updates and that its up to htc, no I know that I just meant sprint actually getting ahold of the final product and sending it out to us. I thought he was saying regardless of htc having a 2.3/2.4 update sprint will just be all natzi about it and not give it to us after they have ruined it via, bloatware and other disgusting apps. Lol sry my bad, so hopefully in 45 days cause this has taken way too long.
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mattykinsx said:
What do you mean probably not then?
My guess would be within the next 45 days.
We know the Evo is getting Gingerbread [2.3/2.4] so it will come.
It makes sense that it would come before Spring.
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How do you know the Evo will get 2.3 or 2.4?

mattykinsx said:
What do you mean probably not then?
My guess would be within the next 45 days.
We know the Evo is getting Gingerbread [2.3/2.4] so it will come.
It makes sense that it would come before Spring.
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unless you know some super, uber secret that we don't, it's was NEVER confirmed that the evo would get any update past froyo.

fixxxer2008 said:
unless you know some super, uber secret that we don't, it's was NEVER confirmed that the evo would get any update past froyo.
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They're considered maintenance upgrades so unless sprint's flagship phone is already considered eol while it is still selling out I'm sure we'll keep getting updates
... this thread looks familiar for some reason, I could swear there is another one just like it on the next page lol

xHausx said:
They're considered maintenance upgrades so unless sprint's flagship phone is already considered eol while it is still selling out I'm sure we'll keep getting updates
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when i see confirmation from google or sprint, then ill believe it.

fixxxer2008 said:
when i see confirmation from google or sprint, then ill believe it.
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Why would you ever see confirmation from Google?
HTC is working on it, promise.

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Why would you ever seen confirmation from Google?
HTC is working on it, promise.
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it's gonna be awhile for them to implement the new sense into ginger. then sprint would have to test before releasing it. if anything at best we might see it by late spring. ive never seen any documentation that even stated htc was working on it for the evo. just like the evo2 is nothing but a myth at this point.

fixxxer2008 said:
it's gonna be awhile for them to implement the new sense into ginger. then sprint would have to test before releasing it. if anything at best we might see it by late spring. ive never seen any documentation that even stated htc was working on it for the evo. just like the evo2 is nothing but a myth at this point.
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Gingerbread was released what...almost four months ago?
It's already been a while...
Also, Froyo was released to the Evo about four months after Froyo was released by Google.

mattykinsx said:
Gingerbread was released what...almost four months ago?
It's already been a while...
Also, Froyo was released to the Evo about four months after Froyo was released by Google.
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not for the evo and to my knowledge not with sense. the evo would only get a sense version of it, not aosp. im done going back & forth, you get the point.

fixxxer2008 said:
not for the evo and to my knowledge not with sense. the evo would only get a sense version of it, not aosp. im done going back & forth, you get the point.
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Huh??
Google released Gingerbread about four months ago...
Google released Froyo about four months prior to the Evo getting it...
You said it's "gonna be awhile"
And I'm saying it's already been a while.
Spring time at the latest.

OP here, Well I'm sure that we will but since its like dead and nobody talks or knows for sure you start to think if its gonna happen at all...I don't see the echo as sprints new flagship phone and as far as I know the evo sells more than the epic and shift so if they abandon all ships on 2.3 I think yours truly is gonna have to switch over to Deutsche Telecom.
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OP here, **** I meant 2.3/2.4 DAMMIT I always forget about the change.
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OP here, Well I'm sure that we will but since its like dead and nobody talks or knows for sure you start to think if its gonna happen at all...I don't see the echo as sprints new flagship phone and as far as I know the evo sells more than the epic and shift so if they abandon all ships on 2.3 I think yours truly is gonna have to switch over to Deutsche Telecom.
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Epic gets 2.2.1 and we get 2.2????

So why does the Epic have 2.2.1 and we only have 2.2??? can someone pull the 2.2.1 kernel and stick it in one of our roms???

2.2 for us was the "here's your froyo, now shut up" update for us.
2.2.1 is coming but it's back to the waiting game.
Just be happy we got an official 2.2 and source code.

presence06 said:
2.2 for us was the "here's your froyo, now shut up" update for us.
2.2.1 is coming but it's back to the waiting game.
Just be happy we got an official 2.2 and source code.
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Agreed... now lets hope some amateur rapper doesnt turn this into a revolution.

That person might have to get sued by Sammy or something first

presence06 said:
2.2 for us was the "here's your froyo, now shut up" update for us.
2.2.1 is coming but it's back to the waiting game.
Just be happy we got an official 2.2 and source code.
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I understand why they pushed it out to us, but still if they have 2.2.1 on the Epic then we should, at the very least, have seen one or two leaked builds with 2.2.1. So far all of our post "shutup" release's have all been 2.2 and those have even stopped coming.
I guess my main reason for posting was not really complaining as much as could we rip the Epic apart and use it in our custom ROM's?

Senorkabob said:
Agreed... now lets hope some amateur rapper doesnt turn this into a revolution.
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Hahaha
.1 r-r-r-remix!

reddragon72 said:
I understand why they pushed it out to us, but still if they have 2.2.1 on the Epic then we should, at the very least, have seen one or two leaked builds with 2.2.1. So far all of our post "shutup" release's have all been 2.2 and those have even stopped coming.
I guess my main reason for posting was not really complaining as much as could we rip the Epic apart and use it in our custom ROM's?
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Krylon360 mentioned that Samsung changed their ports they used for their ROM updates so they have had issues trying to find the ROMs.

Does the Galaxy S 4G ship with 2.2.1 or still 2.2? If so, then the old Vibrant may have just been passed over (hopefully only temporarily).

The Epic shipps with Eclair. It just got its FroYo update, and it's 2.2.1 instead of just 2.2.
2.2.1 on Galaxy S phones runs much better than 2.2 (which has worse performance than JI6 on our phones, IMHO).
The reason why we don't have 2.2.1 is because so many people cried about the Vibrant following the Vibrant 4G announcement and T-Mobile/Samsung wanted to save face.
The fact that they pushed 2.2 out and they haven't heard many complains about KA6 from customers (I haven't seen many on FB/Twitter/T-Mo Forums) means that getting 2.2.1 out to Vibrant 3G users is probably one of their lowest priorities.

N8ter said:
Getting 2.2.1 out to Vibrant 3G users is probably one of their lowest priorities.
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Probably true. As if I needed another reason to be thankful for XDA / it's generous members.

I was under the impression that 2.2.1 was only for the 4g variants of the galaxy s.... maybe I was misinformed...

mavictb said:
I was under the impression that 2.2.1 was only for the 4g variants of the galaxy s.... maybe I was misinformed...
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never heard that, and 2.2.1 is on the nexus one so it is not an upgrade for 4G reasons. The OS version really doesn't do anything for connectivity.

Senorkabob said:
Agreed... now lets hope some amateur rapper doesnt turn this into a revolution.
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I had forgotten about that whole episode, wonder how his c.a.l. is doing now...
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and the vicious cycle continues..

I guess i was misinformed... oh well I will have official 2.2.1 starting tomorrow anyway.

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Agreed... now lets hope some amateur rapper doesnt turn this into a revolution.
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You just made my day with this.
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HTC Falls Behind Motorola In Updates

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.

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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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You need to ***** at sprint HTC is waiting for sprint to let them update that is what HTC said its up to Sprint so everyone needs to flood Sprint with calls emails and demand update.

ItsLasher said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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Well bub, thats the price of a locked/signed bootloader & Moto Blek...
This is why we have XDA my friend.

There's also a difference from Eclair to Froyo from Froyo to Gingerbread.
Froyo actually offered something new from Eclair, Gingerbread does have some benefits but mostly nothing groundbreaking. The X and the Evo were updated to Froyo in about the same time frame of their release.

Didn't the Droid X2 already launch though?
Guess it makes sense, if that is true, that they'd start pushing the update. Isn't that the idea with the Evo? Wait for the successor to drop, then update the past device?
Either way, it'll be here soon enough.

reaper24 said:
You need to ***** at sprint HTC is waiting for sprint to let them update that is what HTC said its up to Sprint so everyone needs to flood Sprint with calls emails and demand update.
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Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.

swaze said:
Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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And you know this to be fact or purely speculating?

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And you know this to be fact or purely speculating?
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Think about it, its a marketing ploy. Want GB on sprint, buy the Evo 3d, then after they start selling it, oh by the way, the rest of you guys already signed up can get your update now. If they were to update our phones, what incentive would we have to get the 3d since we already would have GB??

swaze said:
what incentive would we have to get the 3d since we already would have GB??
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I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?

m4rk0358 said:
I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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Sure, for those of us who are into that, but for the casual user they dont even know about better hardware. They just know GB is the latest software and thats all they want.

swaze said:
Sure, for those of us who are into that, but for the casual user they dont even know about better hardware. They just know GB is the latest software and thats all they want.
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I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.

m4rk0358 said:
I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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To the average consumer? No.
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novanosis85 said:
To the average consumer? No.
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LOL. Let me call my wife and ask her what she thinks of Gingerbread. I'll assume she'll have no idea what I'm talking about and maybe bring up cookies.

m4rk0358 said:
I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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My brother knows about a better phone but he Hung onto his G1 till a great deal came, and it did with t-mobile free mt4g....
So some won't care of better hardware or even software....
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m4rk0358 said:
I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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I agree. I don't think HTC makes better phones btw, motorola kills them in battery life, and I prefer phones made of metal.

I also would rather believe that people in general would want the newest phone over the newest software update. The "average consumer" probably has no idea what the latest iteration of Android is or how to even check for the ota for it lol.

Is it really that big of a deal? The majority of us have rooted phones running custom ROMs anyway. There are handfuls of GB ROMs, both Sense and AOSP. We've had GB on AOSP ROMs (CM) for months now, while the Droid X didn't get GB ROMs until recently.
I know sometimes it's just to ***** and complain about something for the sake of *****ing and complaining, but seriously, is there any need to say that HTC isn't the "leader of the cell phone game" anymore just because of one simple software update?
Also,
Unlocked bootloader >>>>>>> OTA GB update

Holy speculation based thread we have here batman!
Sprint "holding back updates to all phones" comments are silly.
Also, who cares? With HTC phones I can run Cyanogen and have had Gingerbread for what three months now?
With Motorola I can say I have root...which is meaningless.

swaze said:
Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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Money hungry corporate whores
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mattykinsx said:
Holy speculation based thread we have here batman!
Sprint "holding back updates to all phones" comments are silly.
Also, who cares? With HTC phones I can run Cyanogen and have had Gingerbread for what three months now?
With Motorola I can say I have root...which is meaningless.
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Lol I wrote HTC they said its up to Sprint .