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how long does it take to update Sence UI for Android 2.0
urgh im dying to get the update 1.5 is so buggy with stuff
they have to release it for their other handsets as well - tattoo etc - they may also be working on a way to get 2.0 on the magic as well. It all takes time!
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how long does it take to update Sence UI for Android 2.0
urgh im dying to get the update 1.5 is so buggy with stuff
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1.5 isnt that bad, I don't see the update coming this year (but still hoping for it)
Patience is a virtue or something like that
I bet that the first 2.0 release will have way more bugs than the current 1.5 (2.73.405.66) version
Hope not...
Volker1 said:
I bet that the first 2.0 release will have way more bugs than the current 1.5 (2.73.405.66) version
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We hope not...
I personally hope we wunt have to rely on Custom Roms to make it faster.
I'm delighted with 1.5 on sense UI as it is, still think its better over stock 2, but I do like pretty things, don't mind waiting a bit longer, maybe they will release it Christmas day
with the leaked 2.1 update to some of the devs, it just got more intense like.
Personally I think that the existence of a leaked "official HTC" 2.1 build for Hero is very encouraging. I'm sure we'll find out more about it over the next few days as those devs who have the build play around with it, but it shows that HTC are definitely working on it and that a release probably isn't too far away.
That being said, I'm personally still happy with the Hero's "sensified" Cupcake build anyway!
Regards,
Dave
It's more like Donut, don't you think? CDMA support, gestures.. even Facebook integration from 2.0.
id prefer if they took an extra month or two if we could get some speed optimisations/memory optimisations on their lovely widgets
Before I get to my point I want to thank all the devs for there hard work that they do in their spare time. They do it for free and hope that some of us donate to make it a little more worth their while.
Maybe it's just me or does it seem like the development thread is slowing down. I've noticed lately that most of the stuff coming in now is ports from other phones and updates for past builds. Theres not alot of new stuff rolling out. EDT seems to stay busy, but what happend to TW? I would have put money on having a stable 2.3 rom out by now to use as a daily driver. We also lost Eugene and leaked samsung builds seem to not be coming out as often.
Is our phone entering the twilight years? Are the dev's losing interest and working on other phones. I've played around with some of the new phones like the atrix and thunderbolt and i'm sure they could be a lil more interesting to build for.
I hope i'm wrong and 5 min. after I post this a new 2.3 rom comes out. It was fun when you flashed a new trigger rom and 1 day later the new bionix came out. This is a really nice phone and you have to really try hard to brick it. It's almost like Samsung designed it to be modded. Hopefully the devs can get inspired again or some new blood comes in to give us something new.
I think we need to be patient. One day there will be a leak for gb and things will fire up again.
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just relax man every phone goes through spells of development. I see you only joined in april so just wait, Whitehawkx had a mostly working gb port working minus the gps and we have CM7 and MIUI support now as well.
Be patient this phone is amazing and im certain development will continue for it for some time.
In the mean time flash a miui beta or try out the EDT roms you wont be disappointed.
Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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u guys keep us coming back for more every day and i thank you for that! great job on all this.
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Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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Yes, but point being is that we're pretty much at the mercy of Samsung & T-Mobile to release a 2.3.
We will not have a kernel source to play with until it releases for I9K, and even then we'll have issues for a while. And we won't have one with rockin' battery life until we get a leak or source.
But yeah, there really isn't much developing coming from anyone except the guys working on kernels & people like Whitehawk, sonique, and of course Untermench who actaully modify the code. Because there's not much else to do.
Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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I actually have tried to develop a theme to post here but there is so much involved with all the editing and i simply don't have the time. I really wish I did. Trust me I have a great respect for what the dev's do once I started playing around with just a theme. I can only imagine what a rom would take. Plus I can honestly say i'm not skilled enough to put out a quality rom any time soon, if ever. I'm really not complaining about effort or quantity from the devs, i've just noticed lately there seems to be a dull in the dev section. I was just wondering why.
Eugene is back. He said on twitter that he bought a Vibrant. You can see evidence, his newest Ginger Clone version has already had 4 updates.
Sure a lot of the development is for 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms, but I'd say we're easily WAY more active than we used to be. We've now got plenty of choices of roms, kernels, and themes. We've also got new people joining the Vibe development scene. There's an experimental Gingerbread Sense that's just started testing. We are now officially supported by the MIUI team. I see new things happening every day. Development doesn't always happen overnight, but I believe we've still got lots of good things look forward to.
Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
Tarzanman said:
Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
dcontrol said:
Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Haha yeah I remember that too. But ROMs every week != good. Most of them are ports and aren't stable.
I really wish we could have AOSP roms so we could have TRUE development going on. None of this hack and patch stuff.
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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They want CM lol (as do I)
Why do we keep having these threads. I rooted my phone late last year. I have been more then satisfied. I'm just glad to have a faster better phone than what I had originally. Just have some damn patience.
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Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
masterotaku said:
Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
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Well said. It's just like what happened when I had the N1, people started to complain because the roms were so stable there weren't many updates being released.
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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i dont know either...
2.3 probably WILL be faster than 2.2 (duh) but besides the speed, we have everything else.
All thats going to be different is when you go into settings about it will say 2.3 gingerbread
instead of 2.2 or 2.2.1
the rest is good.
im on miui, and i switch between cm7 and miui once in a while
im never going back to 2.2.1
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What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
birgertime said:
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Well said. Someone just asked on one of my 2.2.1 threads why it was so quiet and my only thought was because everything works. Here it is everything has been fixed there should be nothing left to discuss here flash and enjoy.
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thegreatcity said:
Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
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That's the point for me. I stopped updating at KA6. Sure KA7 came out not long after, but why? I had been updating daily/weekly until then, always fighting some bug or flaw. With KA6, I flashed the ODIN version, removed bloatware myself, added the round battery icon, power off menu, and that was *it*. More recently I've updated the Kernel to Overstock 2.x and voodoo FS, but I'm not even sure why I need voodoo. Can't tell a difference in the real speed of the phone.
I didn't take the phone apart to add FFC like so many did (and who also never use it in most cases), so I don't need improved support for that... and themes, well... I guess there is that, not much going on in KA6 themes -- but that doesn't affect the use of the phone at all.
KA6 for me has been fast, stable, and by far the best on battery life of any I've touched yet. There are few if any programs out there that require 2.3 or higher, and until that is the case, why change?
The atmosphere is totally different than it was last fall, when the rest of the world was going 2.2 and Vibrant was stuck on 2.1. At that time, there were an increasing number of programs that simply would not work on Eclair - plus Froyo had been promised as an update. Now we have everything Samsung promised, and really if you're running a lightly modded ROM, it *is* bug-free.
So... until I am forced to consider 2.3, I'm sticking with KA6.. It is nice after years of constantly flashing upgrades on the HTC Vogue (wm6), then the G1, then flashing the MT3G constantly, then constantly flashing the Vibrant, to actually pick up my phone and have it work the same way it did yesterday.
Great advancements have been made with the HD2 over the course of the last 6/7 months none more so than us being able to have NAND Android on our phone and much credit and respect due to everyone involved.
I've noticed though over the last few months that Gingerbread with Sense seems to be all the rage, unfortunately I don't believe any great major progress has been made recently, I'm looking through and have flashed various gingersense builds but its the same problems with them all camcorder,graphic glitches, Wi-Fi trouble,etc etc seem to common reoccurring problems,I've no doubt in time that these issues will be resolved but it seems some people who are content to have a build that might only be say 80% complete on their phone just because it is gingersense as opposed to a build that is 100% stable and thats a bit baffling really, as I said no doubt these issues will in time be resolved but until then personally speaking ill just stick with my stable froyo build until I get my Samsung Galaxy S2.
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.....and the point of this was?
MagikWorx said:
.....and the point of this was?
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bit of a smart ass aren't you
The point being that im wondering why no real advancement has been made with gingersense builds, for months now the same issues are still there,im sure in time they will be resolved but to date they haven't been.
Cuz the source code was not released.
gingersense is the most godawful ****ing word I have ever heard. I hate hearing that word, even in my own head.
gingersense.............
!~!!!!!!!
I can do without sense roms personally, but I feel you, fully functional sense builds would be a dream, truly.
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Cuz the source code was not released.
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I wasn't aware of this, i knew that Google didn't release the source code for Honeycomb.
kypeth said:
gingersense is the most godawful ****ing word I have ever heard. I hate hearing that word, even in my own head.
gingersense.............
!~!!!!!!!
I can do without sense roms personally, but I feel you, fully functional sense builds would be a dream, truly.
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BTW i didn't coin the phrase "gingersense" ive no idea who did i just read it on here.
Well google did release gingerbread's source code, but they don't handle the releasing of source code for phones'. The manufacturer's do.
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.....and the point of this was?
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I agree. You never stated that you had a question in the OP. Just that you're staying with froyo with sense. Cool story, bro.
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I have gingercyanomod (did i just make up a word too???) and i tell you pal, ginger is worth it in some perhaps little aspects! (nothing compared to cyanogen mods which i love above all)
all is working ok for me on Android 2.3.4 ...ok, i could do with native usb tethering (theres an app for that!) and true hd camera drivers but these are little things i can live without.
Better that than having to use windows mobile right?
As for sense builds etc, i dont see the point unless you are lucky enough to have bought the TMOUS HD2... every single sense build i tried on my EU HD2, regardless of overclocking, just runs laggy and annoyingly freezes all the time... sure i can have data and sync off and it will run smoother, but thats crap innit?
Using NAND Typhoon for HD2 3.3.2v MAGLDR (clk still has a few bugs imo)
I was looking around to see if the source code for gingersense had been released and I went to http://developer.HTC.com and the first thing on there is HTC Desire HD - GB MR - 2.6.35 kernel source code and when I downloaded it the file is called ace-2.6.35-gb-MR.tar. now I have no idea but isn't that what they need? Or is it there something else?
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Well what the devs have right now is the sensation's build, atleast I think so. Haven't been in that forum in some time.
The devs are waiting for the Desire GB kernel source to be released...then well see some major leaps forward.
Oh and I'm happy with GINGERSENSE because minor graphic glitches don't bother me and I don't use camcorder. WiFi has no issues either for me.
The devs are waiting for the Desire GB kernel source to be released...then well see some major leaps forward.
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well that is good to hear anyway.
Oh and I'm happy with GINGERSENSE because minor graphic glitches don't bother me and I don't use camcorder. WiFi has no issues either for me
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each to their own my friend but a working camcorder is absolutely essential for me and every gingersense build ive tried has had some sort of issue with Wi-Fi so ill just keep the stable build i have.
GB 2.3.3/4 with CM7 runs so smoothly, couldnt change to a sense rom and lose all the smoothness
if ur waiting for anything
its htc to release the source code for their ginger sense and or a group of devs to write up some new drivers for the hd2 case alot of the driver arent compatible with the hd2
Do you think think we will ever see 4.0 or would it be time to move on.
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Yeah, certainly someone will make a rom or port it But it will probably take a long time before it runs good enough for everyday use and it will probably be a step back in performance from GB :/ But hopefully it will run okay eventually
I agree with Habarug. For now we can't tell for sure if it will or if it will not run on the Hero. Same debate was when Gingerbread sources came out... the Gingerbread was heavy on the hero, it was extremely slow for the first releases, but slowly it became faster and faster and by the latest CM releases it became extremely fast almost like Gingerbread was made for the Hero. At first ICS will be slow as **** but who knows maybe after the ICS sources come out and the devs will "cast their spells", ICS will work on our poor Hero.
Developers often do miracles!! I will pray for the 4.0 on my Hero, since I won't change phone until the new Quad-cores will come out..
Well looks like Feeyo over at the Cronos forums is going to try and get ICS on to the Hero but just like Gingerbread it will be slow for the first few build's.
if not the cpu, I would keep that phone for forever, perfect size, nice screen, resolution, colors.. Glad that it is not dead yet and new roms are coming out if not daily, then weekly. Guess there will be somebody playing on this device, hopefully will succeed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352149
It has been done! The Developers made An exelent job!
There is a ROM but itțs under full development, so you have to wait some time before you can use a stable ICS rom.
I wish all the devs good luck with the new project
Stefan
Would be awsome..
..seeing ICS on my Hero, and I am willing to try and alpha or beta test existing ics Roms for Hero, heard that there is already an Alpha4 outside which is already able to make phone calls.
Looking forward to ICS.
I think the Hero is getting to slow for ICS, it's a real challenge to bring a good ICS rom to the Hero.
I'm just flashing a new rom to my Hero.
i think every dev working on it, and will be a usable 4 ,earlier than u think
I would be suprised if they make it stable and fast enough for everyday use. But fingers crossed.
is under development, there are already 4 beta!
Although Hero is already running ICS, it doesn't mean it should.
We saw a big improvement in performance and features from 1.5 to 2.1. However, the 2.2 improvements were minor and the 2.3 are already trade-offs... some things are better and some are worse.
ICS was designed for 2+ cores and GPUs, which Hero has none.
Definitly right, but sometimes it is just great to have things which are not meant to be.
Unfortunatley the Hero is getting old, but I 'll give him the chance to savor an IceCreamSandwich at least once ;-)
i dont see why our little hero's couldnt defy logic once more
well, the alpha 4 hasn't been updated for two weeks already. It is not going that smooth as you wish for
The Alpha 5 is out already, and I find this version quite fast. I advice everyone to try it if it's not your main phone. It made me quite happy seeing it work so fast.
Ice Cream Sandwich for Hero]
I've tried Alpha 5 and must say it's really optimistic
I made a "test" of ICS on the Hero on my blog : bheller.com/2011/12/15/jai-teste-ice-cream-sandwich-sur-un-htc-hero/ (in french, sorry mates!)
Quite funny to see the Hero still on the edge
ICS BUILD WITH SENSE 3.0
I have made a ICS build with SENSE 3.0.
I am still very busy working on it and im expecting a release tomorrow
First here
Nice will be good to see what is working not working etc Good work man!
Looking forward to this then....willing to be the Guinea pig
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ICS with Sense 3.0 ? I need more explanation to be convinced...especially from a 12 posts profile.
Keep on Treckin!
WTF ? ICS with Sense 3.0 ?
If it's true, it will be really laggy, i think.
Hmmmm... Let's all wait to be amazed!
I smell ................
Yeah right!.......
If anyone were that far on with don't you think it would be one of our 'well known' devs??.
Let's stick to the facts. This thread/announcement stinks badly.
First, i could almost swear that Tytung was AOSP kernel, and not a Sense kernel.
Second, ICS, with Sense 3.0... so soon? So fast? No incompat problems ? No framework issues?
I don't like posts like this, to doubt before evidence, but this smells baddly of vaporware.
Unless its cotulla in a mask I don't believe it. Seeing as nobody has a perfected gingerbread sense, it doubt there is a an ICS sense.
Lock please...
As much as I agree with the above posts, the XDA environment allows anyone to make a thread as long as it is relevant.
Before calling a 'lock' or anything on this thread, the guy has the opportunity to come forth with something relevant. Give him a chance (until tomorrow, as he says) to release or at least give feedback on the criticism.
MrP.
You're right. We should not start spreading FUD... but recently... i've seen so many threads promising world (not just in HD2) and after 30/40 pages of posts... nothing.
Still.... lets us wait... and bleed.
This could be another great developer making a dramatic entrance, or a very bad joke. Tomorrow can not come soon enough.
BTW, tytung does have two R14 kernel for sense rom. Check it out here and here.
Have alook to his 11 previous posts... and cry...
Bad joke methink.
burn the witch lol
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ICS BUILD WITH SENSE 3.0
I have made a ICS build with SENSE 3.0.
I am still very busy working on it and im expecting a release tomorrow
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I like this guy.
Moved to general, until you release something usable.
Was wondering why something like this was in general. Will be interesting to see the turnout, hats off to the OP if he has accomplished this