I am a complete noob when it comes to phones, but i did manage to root my MyTouch3g using the tutorial from Unlockrz.com...anyways, i loaded up the dwang-1.12 ROM, and it is working quite fine. Waaaay faster than before. Now i have some questions though. I've seen lots of people talk about using apps like swapper or DroidSwap in order to speed up phone by using memory from their sd cards? idk if i got that correctly, but anyways, i would like a step by step explanation on how to use this feature. Thank you.
Also, another quick question, how do i know if my ROM is the latest version? i assume the phone doesnt check for itself, so any ideas where to check/get the updates? and would i have to delete everything on the phone? any help is much appreciated.
If you did it by the tutorial at Unlockr.com, then you should have the amon_ra recovery image already. What you will want to do is go to "Partition sd card", then partition your sd card. It'll ask you to set the swap, ext (which you won't really need unless you use ROMs like superD where app2sd is automatically set). By setting swap on your phone via recovery image, certain ROMs will detect your swap right away and use it, again like superD.
I don't know about dwang since I have never used it myself. However, maybe you should look into flashing other ROMs that are used for G1. Since you have a MT3G, you will be able to flash almost all ROMs that are made for the G1. The only bad part is that some ROMs use app2sd when MT3G users have enough internal memory to have a lot of apps on board without app2sd.
Also, MT3G users do not require DangerSPL when flashing G1 ROMs even with sense, eclair, or some other ROMs that require it. With that in mind, try the latest superD ROM which is posted on the G1 Development section or maybe cyanogenmod 5? Very popular these days introducing a new era for G1/MT3G with 2.1!
You may also use swapper from the market, and it'll automatically set it up for you if you select "swap on" from swapper. But I recommend partitioning regardless because with swapper, every time you boot, you have to apply it again.
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Can someone point into the right direction on doing the apps to sd card process? I downloaded Paragon and all the files and now I am wondering which link to follow? Sorry I tried another process and my G1 would just stay at the boot up screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512743 I am a little confused on this link? I have a 1gb card that is already formatted...in which order do I follow the steps?
You aren't giving us much information to go on. What build are you running? That method uses Unionfs, not all builds support that method.
As stated, we are going to need more information on the ROM you are running.
If you are using Cyanogen's Recovery, you can do all the partitioning from the Console.
JF 1.5 and JF Heros theme
I followed the steps on the link below to do the hero rom my G1, did the root, rom and then when I got to the apps to sd process, the phone just stayed on boot up with the G1 screen.
http://theunlockr.com/2009/06/24/how-to-load-the-htc-hero-rom-onto-your-g1/
So I am still trying to do the apps to sd process
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JF 1.5 and JF Heros theme
I followed the steps on the link below to do the hero rom my G1, did the root, rom and then when I got to the apps to sd process, the phone just stayed on boot up with the G1 screen.
http://theunlockr.com/2009/06/24/how-to-load-the-htc-hero-rom-onto-your-g1/
So I am still trying to do the apps to sd process
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Well that's even more confusing, because you have mentioned two different ROM's with two completely different A2SD methods. JAC Hero uses automatic A2SD if you have an ext2/3 partition, so if you do you should be good to go. If you just want cupcake, I'd go with Cyanogen's build. Has everything JF1.5 does and more, but it also has automatic A2SD aslong as you have ext2/3. Hope that helped, please try to be more explicit
Sorry
My first on all this and it does get confusing when i try to do it.
I have a G1 that has been updated with the 1.5, i followed the steps to root, install a rom, I used JF files as I followed the link above...While trying to do save the apps to sd card process with the linda manger and trying to set the part on the sd card, something went wrong. it doesnt work for me, my G1 just stays on the G1 screen on boot up....so i had to reload the JF rom...
This is what I would like to do:
1. Do the apps to sd card process
2. Get the Hero rom on my G1
I am stuck on #1 before I can do #2
FenderGuy said:
Sorry
My first on all this and it does get confusing when i try to do it.
I have a G1 that has been updated with the 1.5, i followed the steps to root, install a rom, I used JF files as I followed the link above...While trying to do save the apps to sd card process with the linda manger and trying to set the part on the sd card, something went wrong. it doesnt work for me, my G1 just stays on the G1 screen on boot up....so i had to reload the JF rom...
This is what I would like to do:
1. Do the apps to sd card process
2. Get the Hero rom on my G1
I am stuck on #1 before I can do #2
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Ahh thank you, this clears things up.
Apps2SD is dependent on the ROM, so when you get A2SD on one ROM and want to switch to another you have to start again (not always, but that's besides the point ). So, forget about A2SD on JF, because you go to hero it will break.
What you need to do, is format the Fat32, ext3 and linux-swap, then install the Jac Hero ROM. Please ignore that Jac Hero video you linked to, it will just complicate things. After you have partitioned that card correctly, you also need to upgrade the SPL. This is risky, you could brick the device, but as long as you follow the directions you will be fine.
You have several options for formatting the card
1) Buying Paragon 9 for windows
2) Using a live Ubuntu cd
3) using the terminal in cyanogens recovery image
Easiest is using cyanogen's recovery image
you can find it here : here
afterwards format the card using the guide on the Jac Hero page
Ok I'm a newbie and sorry to be asking so many questions but I should format my sd card to fat32 and ext3 and linux-swap?
I have Paragon 9 for windows and would prefer to do it this way, so the sd card will have 3 parts?
And then I can just load the Hero Rom as you suggested?
I am so excited I have to give props to this link
Best link ever!!!!!!!!!!! Have Hero on my G1, its laggy but I am excited to put on the Mytouch when it comes out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731
This linked helped so much and I did the install in less then 10 minutes since all the other links were confusing me, I recommend this link for newbs like me....
I am amazed at the hero software its cool
i'm confused about this. i've seen people recently saying that apps2sd is no longer needed, but lots of people still run it.
i currently run dwangs latest 1.6 rom, and its blazing fast... does this have apps2sd built in? if it doesnt, why do people say its no longer needed? i also run ra recovery console 1.2.2. if dwangs doesnt have it built in, all i need to do to move to it is click the link in my console right? (i already formatted fat32/ext2)
It's not needed for the Magic because it has enough internal memory for your apps. Many ROMs are developed primarily for the G1 which has less space and hence could do with apps being stored on the SD.
I recently removed all partitions from my SD so the apps are now on the phone and also there is no swap. With the latest Cyanogen ROMs I have found this to be a more stable setup, don't think I'll ever partition the SD again.
Nothing too big. I've searched everywhere on this and apparently this is supposed to work, but:
I can't get Live Wallpapers to work
and I can't get the Nexus Launcher to work. Both of these just force close.
Oh, and how do I use Apps2sd? Its greyed out in the settings menu and I can't touch it. Thanks in advance.
All of this has already been answered. Just search the thread of the rom you are using. I promise, its in there.
Thanks haha. Should've done that. But I didn't get anything answered on the Nexus Launcher. It just keeps force closing. Would you choose ADW or Nexus?
Hey Nikolai, what ROM did you use? I've been really busy with a new job and didn't want to get crazy after (finally) rooting, so I went with Ivan's 1.0 ROM. It's essentially the basic Verizon setup without the junk, and overclocking. Apps2SD doesn't work...grrr.
I'd like to try something with Apps2SD and Live wallpapers, but I don't want anything buggy.
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Thanks haha. Should've done that. But I didn't get anything answered on the Nexus Launcher. It just keeps force closing. Would you choose ADW or Nexus?
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Launcher Pro is a lot faster than both of those. I would choose that.
im just wondering. now that im rooted what specific apps do you guys reccomend? i have Fresh Rom installed with overclocking just curious what other utilities i should get
A2SD has to have the SD card partitioned. You can do this in the Recovery menu where you flash new ROMS. It will erase everything so make a backup of what you want from your SD Card first then in the partitioning setup it ask for a swap and ext3 size default it is 32mb for swap and 512mb for ext3. After that you should be able to turn A2SD on.
If you choose, and shortly after you turn A2SD on you will, to stop using A2SD repeat the same steps for partitioning the SD card but when you are asked sizes scroll the track ball down till it is 0 for both swap and ext3.
I don't like it because I don't feel like buying a Class 4 SD card or higher to make it worth while. If you are using the stock SD card you got with the phone it will make your phone boot slower and take longer to access the Apps.
I don't know what ROM you are using but the KaosFroyo ROM is a great ROM it is small and that will save you more room for apps if that is what you are looking for.
this thread has nothing to do with development for the eris. can someone please move this to general?
lostpilot28 said:
Hey Nikolai, what ROM did you use? I've been really busy with a new job and didn't want to get crazy after (finally) rooting, so I went with Ivan's 1.0 ROM. It's essentially the basic Verizon setup without the junk, and overclocking. Apps2SD doesn't work...grrr.
I'd like to try something with Apps2SD and Live wallpapers, but I don't want anything buggy.
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I was on eris lightning bolt but i just switched over to ic3rom
Oh and can someone please explain to me what a MAPS rom is? I got the ic3rom lwp version but i dont know the difference
morphius2036 said:
A2SD has to have the SD card partitioned. You can do this in the Recovery menu where you flash new ROMS. It will erase everything so make a backup of what you want from your SD Card first then in the partitioning setup it ask for a swap and ext3 size default it is 32mb for swap and 512mb for ext3. After that you should be able to turn A2SD on.
If you choose, and shortly after you turn A2SD on you will, to stop using A2SD repeat the same steps for partitioning the SD card but when you are asked sizes scroll the track ball down till it is 0 for both swap and ext3.
I don't like it because I don't feel like buying a Class 4 SD card or higher to make it worth while. If you are using the stock SD card you got with the phone it will make your phone boot slower and take longer to access the Apps.
I don't know what ROM you are using but the KaosFroyo ROM is a great ROM it is small and that will save you more room for apps if that is what you are looking for.
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I think I know why apps2sd slowed down your phone. You selected 32mb for swap. I selected 0 for my swap and it's been fast on every apps2sd enabled rom I've used. I bought a class 6 sd card thinking it would make my phone even faster but that was joke. My wife's Eris has the stock class 2 card and I can't tell a difference in the speeds.
I also agree with LexusBrian400 above. Launcher Pro is my favorite launcher. Play around in the preferences for a bit. It has some cool options.
snyluc13 - You need setcpu (or some other app) to control the overclock. Do not set on boot until you have found a setting that wont lock your phone.
Nikolai2.1 said:
Oh and can someone please explain to me what a MAPS rom is? I got the ic3rom lwp version but i dont know the difference
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Without some trickery and some tweaking, you can either get nav(maps version) and no lwp or lwp and no nav (working that is)
So I keep getting the low space alert, and it seems like my emails and texts stop when that happens, which is no bueno... I don't know why since I only have like 5-6 apps installed and have cleared my text msgs, but it keeps happening...
Is there a way for me to move my apps to the SD Card, as well as have them install there in the future *without having to root*? I'm not rooted, and due to it looking like a PITA, I really don't want to have to do it. I did the upgrade to 2.2 when I got it, and the option is in the setting to move each app to the SD Card, but that option is disabled and I cannot engage it.
Any ideas?
No one? Seriously?
Ok, how about this. If I do need to root to remove some apps and whatnot or however to make space, and I have no interest in custom ROM's, Radios, etc, what is the quickest and easiest way to root? One without having to install the SDK or anything like that? I am currently on 2.2.1, stock.
unfortunently, you do have to have root access to use apps to SD. BUT, i said the same thing about custom roms when i first started modding. heres what you can do.
1) Root your phone and install a CWM recovery using one of the many useful guides on this site
2) (optional) Achieve S-OFF in Hboot. this allows for further modification of a roms internal files after it has been flashed.
3)Download and flash the CM7 Rom(and gapps) from cyanogenmod.com (ensure that it is the rom for your phone)
4)Partition your SD card for EXT 4. (this is done in an app called ROM manager from the market.)
5) After you've booted into android, go to the android market and download an app called S2E. CM7 has its own built in A2SD, but ive found this to be the simplest and best overall.
neoslink1 said:
unfortunently, you do have to have root access to use apps to SD. BUT, i said the same thing about custom roms when i first started modding. heres what you can do.
1) Root your phone and install a CWM recovery using one of the many useful guides on this site
2) (optional) Achieve S-OFF in Hboot. this allows for further modification of a roms internal files after it has been flashed.
3)Download and flash the CM7 Rom(and gapps) from cyanogenmod.com (ensure that it is the rom for your phone)
4)Partition your SD card for EXT 4. (this is done in an app called ROM manager from the market.)
5) After you've booted into android, go to the android market and download an app called S2E. CM7 has its own built in A2SD, but ive found this to be the simplest and best overall.
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Thank You Sir! Is there any way to root w/out a gold card?
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Thank You Sir! Is there any way to root w/out a gold card?
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There are several options on how to root your fone after you've upgraded to 2.2. Your real problem is, & this is the reason why they made the update available on HTC's website, rather than just doing an OTA, that the 2.2 package w/ Sense is just too big for the available internal storage...
The 2nd problem is, I noticed the guy prior suggested obtaining "S-off". This CANNOT, @ least last time I checked around, be done once you've updated to the stock HTC build of 2.2. You can still root the phone using one of the many methods available in the MT3GS android development boards & then install CM7 which frees up a lot internal storage space on the phone....
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After using my HD2 for close to 1.5 years, I finally manage to get root on the Froyo NAND ROM I have, and installed Titanium Backup. What took me so long? Partly due to the fact I don't have much time to try out different ROMs and also I need something reliable, which made me stuck to the same early NAND release for so long, but the lack of internal space is really getting on my nerves recently.
Just a backtrack on what ROM I used. I followed instructions on the [GUIDE] Flashing Your First HD2 NAND Android Rom [For Newbs] thread, installed LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM by Cotulla and never bothered with anything else, even with the fact it doesn't have root access.
Upon installing Titanium Backup, I discovered a section where they listed "System ROM: 274MB (18.6MB free)" and "Internal: 144MB (17.2MB free)", well, that explains why I kept running out of space, the first boot up, I remembered I only have like 30MB out of the 144MB Internal space to use for any other external apps I installed! But another question beckons, 274MB + 144MB is only about 418MB, I thought we have 576MB to begin with on the HD2? What happened to the rest of the storage? I've checked my radio and I'm running on 2.15.50.14 which is supposed to have unlocked the extra memory.
And I'm also thinking of installing a new ROM after all these years, probably sticking with a Sense based one, which I've seen a pretty good Rom SENSATION XL V 3.0 or DESIRE HD OFFICIAL RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_V 3.0 made by haldric, but the partition of 5/220/5 or 5/180/5 is a little worrying as that would mean less internal space left for apps I install, but how does one calculate and estimate the amount of internal memory left after a clean install? If not, I would be considering tytung's NexusHD2-Gingerbread V3.2a which has a small system partition of 135MB, which probably meant I have more internal space left for apps instead, but it doesn't have SENSE, which I prefer to have even though it makes the phone slower.
Also, I guess I prefer to stick with the MAGLDR way of flashing thru DAF.exe as I think it's probably the most straight forward and easiest way compared to the other methods which seemed kinda complicated.
My main question is actually the "System ROM" and "Internal" size showed by Titanium backup, is that normal that it doesn't add up to the RAM/ROM size?
Hope to get some response soon. Thanks in advance!
ever thought of using ext???
Thealshear, I would, but it seems the procedure to set it up seemed pretty complicated, and, well, I've been thinking of trying out a new ROM as well.
I guess I got confused anyway, it's 512MB of ROM, so after deducting 274MB out of System ROM and 144MB out of Internal memory, where did the rest of the 94MB went? Cache?
First of all, RAM is a completely different thing from ROM.
ROM, stands for Read-only memory , is where your OS resides. Whereas RAM, stands for Random Access Memory (you should already know this), is where your running apps are kept ... RUNNING !
The HD2 only has a RAM of 576 MB (after radio install).
But as for the ROM:
The T-mobile packs a 1GB ROM, while the regular (Euro) HD2 only packs 512MB (not 576MB).
And finally, don't trust TB . Mine says (167 System ROM & 1GB internal when I actually own a European HD2 ) and that is because the A2SD script.
When you want to flash a recovery, your maximum is 400MB system (considering 10MB cache, 2MB boot, 5MB recovery & 1MB misc) Which totals to about 418MB.
I don't know why the rest is not used, but since it is happening on both DAF flashing AND CWM, then I assume it's a thing we cannot change.
Well, yeah, I just found out I got mistaken, it's the ROM size that I need to take note about, one of the things that baffled me coming from iOS is that, in iOS, whatever listed storage size, I could use it all up for apps instead of like in Android's case, it's based on the ROM size.
Anyway, other than checking the flash.cfg configuration, there's no where else to roughly estimate how much internal memory is left? Moving apps to SD doesn't seem to be the full blown solution as I think some parts will still be left on the ROM, or I had been misinformed?
Is it possible to setup without Clockwork Mod?
Settings > Storage
Always shows you the actual amount of MBs left for you to install apps. (If you're not using an A2SD script)
Why are you still on that rusty ROM ?
There are now much better ROMs with better functionality. Furthermore, the installation procedure is rather simple.
I recommend doing the following:
1- Sync your Contacts & Calendar Events to Google. (Auto by default)
2- Backup your SMS with any app from the Market. (Optional)
3- Backup your apps using TB backup (requires root ofc )
After that, wipe off your device using Task29. Then choose either MAGLDR or cLK (see what suits you best). Then install CWM (cWM comes pre-installed with cLK 1.5) .. then customize the partition sizes. Finally, flash your favourite ROM.
Well, as mentioned, I'm still on this rusty ROM due to convenience and I didn't had much time to tweak around. Back then, I got the HD2 as it was the only possible phone that has 4.3" on Android
Recently, the internal memory issue is getting on my nerves as I need a couple of apps that's impossible to install without having more internal memory! Which was why I finally decided it's time to read a little bit more to get a much better ROM instead without resorting to changing phones.
So, basically, whatever I do, I would still need to run Task29? I just found out about the HD2 NAND Toolkit, so in accordance to the procedure you mentioned, I would still need to run Task29, install MAGLDR, use HD2 NAND Toolkit and then install whatever ROM I choose to use? Is CWM necessary? Or it just helps to ease up the work later on?
Thanks again!
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Well, as mentioned, I'm still on this rusty ROM due to convenience and I didn't had much time to tweak around. Back then, I got the HD2 as it was the only possible phone that has 4.3" on Android
Recently, the internal memory issue is getting on my nerves as I need a couple of apps that's impossible to install without having more internal memory! Which was why I finally decided it's time to read a little bit more to get a much better ROM instead without resorting to changing phones.
So, basically, whatever I do, I would still need to run Task29? I just found out about the HD2 NAND Toolkit, so in accordance to the procedure you mentioned, I would still need to run Task29, install MAGLDR, use HD2 NAND Toolkit and then install whatever ROM I choose to use? Is CWM necessary? Or it just helps to ease up the work later on?
Thanks again!
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Task29 is unnecessary I feel. Just follow this guide and you should be fine. Do a wipe in MAGLDR, flash CWM and carry on from there.
In terms of the internal memory apps, which ones are these? I made sure to move all of my games to the SD card, and any app which has a significant amount of data. All the apps on my internal storage right now are Widgets and Launchers, works fine for me.
^What he said.
And yes, CWM is fundamental. On the other hand, task29 is not. But I like to do it when switching from MAGLDR to cLK or vice versa.