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Hi.
I'm quite impressed by the freaking huge screen on the Dell Streak but have a few concerns when it comes to Data Usage...
The plan Im looking at for it (Optus) only has 2GB Data. Would I go over this if I just use Facebook, MSN and occasional Google Maps day after day on it? I rarely download music and don't watch any streaming content. Might take a look at CNN or The Australian once in a while.
Or am I better off with a Blackberry Torch on unlimited BIS (Data) plan?
EDIT: Oh and I've never used Android before.
I can say with certainty, if you do not download music or movies... no way you'll exceed 2gb. You wont even exceed 500kb.
Save your downloading for WiFi and you're fine.
PS: I have 1gb plan and EASILY stay under that.
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Oh... and...
My blackberry (for work) collects dust these days. Don't waste your time with blackberry unless messaging is your primary thing.
For media/web experience, blackberry doesn't compare... and it is not even close.
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CGI_Ram said:
Oh... and...
My blackberry (for work) collects dust these days. Don't waste your time with blackberry unless messaging is your primary thing.
For media/web experience, blackberry doesn't compare... and it is not even close.
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I just retrieve MSN emails, never bother replying.
Facebook, Bout a thousand texts a week and MSN is all I do lol.
Oh and some Mp3s.
I got a 500mb on mine and was concerned it wouldn't be enough. But turns out im only using 250-300 a month. If you are really concerned just download net.counter to.keep track of it.
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Which wireless tether will work on a rooted glacier? Is thee a way to patch the stock one to work with out the added fee?
Scott Xavier- mind hacker
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I'm using 2.0.5-pre13 off this list and it works flawlessly, but I imagine any 2.0.2 or 2.0.5 would work.
Im using 2.05 pre 11. Works great.
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myrdhyn said:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I'm using 2.0.5-pre13 off this list and it works flawlessly, but I imagine any 2.0.2 or 2.0.5 would work.
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+1 on this version
When did they decide to start charging with the built in tethering? Is there going to be some sort of notification if you use it?
I don't think they are actually doing anything specif as far as charging or disabling the stock setup. They have stated that they will be monitoring data usage (don't know if they could tell the difference between tethering and device only connections).
Therefore, if you are running up the gigabytes through tethering (or bit torrent downloads, etc.), they may take action (I would guess like limiting your connection to 2G).
I am still using my stock tethering, and will be watching my TMo statements carefully.
I normally hit about 8-10gb a month since I use it as my primary internet. I don't p2p, but I do watch Hulu which uses up a whole lot of data. I've been warned via text that I've used more than my share, but I was only throttled down for a day. It was terrible. I was running a speed test and it was consistently under 100kbps the entire day.
I've been using stock tethering.
Tmobile tech super states that when you start tethering, it won't work you have to cal then up and activate it on your account. the app uses a server port that is monitored and blocked.
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drzodiac said:
Tmobile tech super states that when you start tethering, it won't work you have to cal then up and activate it on your account. the app uses a server port that is monitored and blocked.
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If that is the case, then using a generic Google tethering app with a different port could fix it.
However, mine worked fine yesterday with the stock app, and have not been able to try it today yet.
skyungjae said:
I normally hit about 8-10gb a month since I use it as my primary internet. I don't p2p, but I do watch Hulu which uses up a whole lot of data. I've been warned via text that I've used more than my share, but I was only throttled down for a day. It was terrible. I was running a speed test and it was consistently under 100kbps the entire day.
I've been using stock tethering.
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holy bandwidth abuse batman...8-10gb a month is ridiculous.
When I went into the store to buy my HD2 on launch day, the rep and I were talking about tethering. He said he did it on his Cliq when he needed to and at the time I used to use it on my MT3G when I needed it.
He showed me a photocopy of a bill that someone brought in complaining about...Tmobile finally got tired of this dbag abusing the privilege and charged him .20 per mb for everything over 5gb...the bill was like $1100.00. Even back in March, he told me that they would be tightening up on data usage and tethering because of the HDPA+ rolling out. T-Mobile is not into the business of supplying people with dirt cheap home internet.
He looked at my past and current usage and said I was totally safe. I stream Pandora/Slacker for 8 hours a day 5 days a week...tether occasionally if im on the road or at a hotel that does not offer free wifi...and moderately browse the internet just like everyone else. I have only managed to hit 3gb usage in a single month once...and that was on vacation in Cali when my wife was using my connection to upload vacation photos to facebook.
I know it may impact a few honest people...but I think T-Mobile should charge every customer who exceeds the 5gb cap...maybe people like you could give the rest of us a price break on our plans
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..not true, it work with unlocked phone with at&t so it does not go thru any server of such.
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Tmobile tech super states that when you start tethering, it won't work you have to cal then up and activate it on your account. the app uses a server port that is monitored and blocked.
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agentaaron said:
I know it may impact a few honest people...but I think T-Mobile should charge every customer who exceeds the 5gb cap...maybe people like you could give the rest of us a price break on our plans
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Um...throughout much of 2009, I was going through 3-4gb per month on my G1...with no tethering and no torrent action.
I hope to move on to the myTouch 4G now that I'm out of contract, but suspect I'll probably break the 5gb mark often when running on that speed...maybe not by much, but it'll happen. If they think I need to be throttled (who are they? the TSA?!) and want to charge me extra for my *normal* mobile usage, consistent with my two previous years' use then I may, sadly, have to use WiFi more often...
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Um...throughout much of 2009, I was going through 3-4gb per month on my G1...with no tethering and no torrent action.
I hope to move on to the myTouch 4G now that I'm out of contract, but suspect I'll probably break the 5gb mark often when running on that speed...maybe not by much, but it'll happen. If they think I need to be throttled (who are they? the TSA?!) and want to charge me extra for my *normal* mobile usage, consistent with my two previous years' use then I may, sadly, have to use WiFi more often...
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I have never come close to touching 5gb...and I use what I think is a lot of data.
...I would bet I use a lot a home, but I do pull some torrents and lots of netflix, hulu, and PS3 content.
As I said in my previous post...I constantly stream music, at least 8 hours a day. I tether for I would say 2-3 hours a week (casual web browsing), and use the hell out of the phones browser and other data services such as Ustream (live podcasts and such)
Here is a screenshot of my current data usage for this month (only two days to go on this cycle)
Same here not even close
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I have never come close to touching 5gb...and I use what I think is a lot of data.
...I would bet I use a lot a home, but I do pull some torrents and lots of netflix, hulu, and PS3 content.
As I said in my previous post...I constantly stream music, at least 8 hours a day. I tether for I would say 2-3 hours a week (casual web browsing), and use the hell out of the phones browser and other data services such as Ustream (live podcasts and such)
Here is a screenshot of my current data usage for this month (only two days to go on this cycle)
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Why not use the stock one? They aren't doing anything to prevent us from using it
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Which wireless tether will work on a rooted glacier? Is thee a way to patch the stock one to work with out the added fee?
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Well, I use my tethering for Hulu, Youtube, browsing, and chatting. On occasion I'd download a ROM update. Since I do that pretty much daily, I'm sure that's why I ring up such high GB usage. It's probably mostly Hulu. I've been throttled down, but as I mentioned before it lasts about a day after getting the text.
Here's what I got for this month:
I've had tmo for about 9 years, they have never throttled me once... I don't go over 5gb every month, but easily more than half the year. I use it for school work on my laptop, stream slacker and Pandora, stream from my server at home, navigation.
Basically I use it all I want, never worry about anything, and tmo treats me fairly, that's why I'm still with them after all this time.
That's with WiFi use at home
The only reason i use WiFi at home is for the speed bump, my mt4g gets 16mbps down 16mpbs up on my WiFi
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I've been using tmo for ages too. Last month was the first time I got the text warning me for going over 5GB. I was around 9GB's when it was sent to me. This current billing cycle is the first time I was throttled down.
I'm going to cut out streaming video and see how my usage is next month.
my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
Her problem is sharing the connection. I have used over 10 gig a month with netflix, hbo go. But I don't share the connection.one month I used almost 20 gigs.
It could be the fact that shes using a P2P software to download music. MP3 Rocket is very similar to Limewire.
I'm not going to go into a whole thing here, but I think that you could stand to take a step back and look at this situation objectively. Do you think it's reasonable to be doing P2P over 3G with an unpaid for wireless tether and not expect any flack from Sprint over it?
Hell, I don't really appreciate it as another Sprint user. Do your P2P at home, please.
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I'm not going to go into a whole thing here, but I think that you could stand to take a step back and look at this situation objectively. Do you think it's reasonable to be doing P2P over 3G with an unpaid for wireless tether and not expect any flack from Sprint over it?
Hell, I don't really appreciate it as another Sprint user. Do your P2P at home, please.
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Agreed.
The amount of usage isn't the concern here.
dezel29 said:
my wife got a call from sprint last week telling her she had 10 days to reduce her usage or they would cancel her line...she was rooted and using wireless tether...not installed from the market....she uses mp3 rocket on her pc to download music, streams movies via netflix and various other outlets...thats it for her...it was all over 3G data connection...i called sprint to find out wat the deal was and they straight told me the sites and protocols she used...they also told me that yes data is unlimited unless u use it to stream or download things...had them push me up to higher dept manager and i complained that the 3G speed was so slow, .5 dl, and they told me that is perfectly normal and fine, you dont need anything faster to web browse...i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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Wait. You are furious because Sprint wants to cancel when you are illegaly tethering?
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MaxCarnage said:
I'm not going to go into a whole thing here, but I think that you could stand to take a step back and look at this situation objectively. Do you think it's reasonable to be doing P2P over 3G with an unpaid for wireless tether and not expect any flack from Sprint over it?
Hell, I don't really appreciate it as another Sprint user. Do your P2P at home, please.
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Couldn't have said it better.
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why she using her phone to download music?
why not download to your PC and then transfer the files to your phone?
I have never gone over 3Gigz myself....one month i had 4.5GB's
maybe you need to teach her how to use her phone and keep herself under 5GB?
Haha, you came on here to ***** about Sprint and now everyones *****ing at you #fail
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dezel29 said:
i am still furious over this...i had her unroot her phone so we wouldnt be canceled...i am still in shock that this happened...they said she was using over 5Gb a month for 3 consecutive months...
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Unfortunately, it's users like your wife that are accelerating Sprint's justification in supporting some people within Sprint for the need to switch from going from an unlimited data plan to a tiered data plan, like the other carriers. Because of that, I don't think you're going to get much sympathy on this board.
MaxCarnage said:
I'm not going to go into a whole thing here, but I think that you could stand to take a step back and look at this situation objectively. Do you think it's reasonable to be doing P2P over 3G with an unpaid for wireless tether and not expect any flack from Sprint over it?
Hell, I don't really appreciate it as another Sprint user. Do your P2P at home, please.
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ahhhhh...........gone todash..............
There's a lot more to this story.
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DirtyShroomz said:
There's a lot more to this story.
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I agree. Why wouldn't they just tell her that she would have to pay for hotspot?
so if you use 5gb or more of data for 3 consecutive months sprint will boot you?
Was she roaming?
Nick N said:
I agree. Why wouldn't they just tell her that she would have to pay for hotspot?
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If you owned a store and found out someone was stealing for over three months, would you just tell them to pay next time?
DirtyShroomz said:
There's a lot more to this story.
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Notice he is silent.
Smells like some stale copypasta.
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iwin2000 said:
so if you use 5gb or more of data for 3 consecutive months sprint will boot you?
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They can boot you if you use 300mb of roaming data over 3 months. That much I know.
Award Tour said:
They can boot you if you use 300mb of roaming data over 3 months. That much I know.
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And Sprint should because they have to pay Verizon (or whatever company's tower it is) for the overage.
Alright, I woke up this morning to a email from AT&T saying I'm in the 5% this month.
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This is the data that I have used.
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Is anybody else getting these emails at such a low amount of data use?
It's pretty stupid to say that you're at the 5% when you're only at 5 gigabytes, last month I used 20 gigabytes and didn't get anything.
Also please don't respond if you're just going to say "you can start using wifi." Well I can't, because this is my only way online where I live.
I just hit 8GB when i received the email.
Yeah, they also sent me a text about an hour ago saying,
" AT&T Free Msg: Your data usage this month is in the top 5% of users. Use Wi-Fi to help avoid reduced speeds in future bill cycles. Visit www .att. com/dataplans. "
This is kinda pissing me off now.
There ought to be some sort of audit on this.. I doubt 5g is in the top 5%
AdamOutler said:
There ought to be some sort of audit on this.. I doubt 5g is in the top 5%
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Apparently, anything over 4GB puts you into that category now. Two of my friends who have AT&T got that message and only use around 3-4GB a month.
Way to go AT&T, control your customers and take away their freedoms and what they pay for.
dang 4gbs? what do yall do on a phone to acheive that?
I get to 4gb when streaming video (wink)
At&t does this to try lessen the stress on their network.
They also use this as a scare tactic when users use "free" online services...
At&t should have at least said "Anybody over 2gb, will be throttled."
I highly doubt they even looked at how much data gets used per month before putting this into effect, it's like they just tossed out anything over 2gb as the 5%.
2Gb Warning
I got the message this morning and checked my data usage and it was 2.1GB
I used 13.2GB last bill and I never got the msg.
dang how do people reach so much data use?
I don't know, but The guy I know who works for the big red thinks I used alot of data.
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dang how do people reach so much data use?
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Pandora, netflix, downloads, etc.
It's not hard to go over 2gb in a day... or even a few hours, without tethering.
After years of using AT&T I have never once had data throttled while averaging about 5 GB a months for the past year. still waiting for AT&T to say something because its like that on both my line and my wife's line where we use a combined 10GB a month.
I got the message this morning at 2.1Gb. Funny thing is, my download speeds have actually gotten better. I used to average 2-3Mbps down, 1-1.5 up, but after 3 speed tests, I'm running 4.5-5.5 down, .75 up. Throttle my upload speed all they want, I really don't care. But I'm definitely loving this new download speed. I don't know if this has anything to do with the Cingular 410 APN I'm using on my Galaxy Nexus.
Still, I find it ridiculous that AT&T is allowed to implement this kind of system without a means of releasing their tracking methods. Using the "top 5%" is such a asinine method of choosing who to throttle. IF they went ahead and just told grandfathered customers they would throttle past a particular GB, akin to what t-mobile is doing, it would make a lot more sense. Now, we have users stating they have reached anywhere from 2-13 gigs saying they have been placed in the "top 5%". I'm filing a complaint with the BBB petitioning AT&T to give us more information on how they distinguish who is in the top 5% of data consumption and to give us a better way of tracking our data usage compared to the others placed in the top 5%.
I've gotten the message for the past couple of months. They now say they will throttle at 5gb. Either we need to come up with a work around like tmo guys did on cm7 or I'm switching to sprint. Been with them for yrs now and I used 10 to 25 gb on my old dumb phone razr.
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boborone said:
or I'm switching to sprint. Been with them for yrs now and I used 10 to 25 gb on my old dumb phone razr.
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thats not even possible on that phone lol
and btw good luck with sprint.
enjoy the 75-200kb/s downloads
which is what im getting on the crappiest network, lots of dropped calls etc
im looking at verizon or tmo right now
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thats not even possible on that phone lol
and btw good luck with sprint.
enjoy the 75-200kb/s downloads
which is what im getting on the crappiest network, lots of dropped calls etc
im looking at verizon or tmo right now
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Yes it is possible. Why you say no? I do at least 150+ on my phone now. Always used lots of data, always will.
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boborone said:
Yes it is possible. Why you say no? I do at least 150+ on my phone now. Always used lots of data, always will.
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And because of this we will always be throttled lol. Like that's just excessive in my opinion
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MWilkenson said:
And because of this we will always be throttled lol. Like that's just excessive in my opinion
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I haven't had cable or internet for about 4 yrs now. My phone is my source for tv, movies, news, games, ect.
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Ever since I got my Nexus 4 (from S3) my data usage has been really funky. I check both the T-Mobile my account app and the built in data monitor and apparently I'm using hundreds of megabytes of data within just days? That's not even possible, I'm on wifi more than half the time I even use my phone.
Can anyone help me figure out what's going on? I only have 2GB per month of 4G from T-Mobile and previously with my S3 I've only used about 1GB per month and I haven't changed my usage patterns from when I switched. This is starting to scare me because I heavily rely on data sometimes whether it be for school or finding a phone number online or navigation or whatever. I don't want to get throttled mid month.
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nyyankees1237 said:
Ever since I got my Nexus 4 (from S3) my data usage has been really funky. I check both the T-Mobile my account app and the built in data monitor and apparently I'm using hundreds of megabytes of data within just days? That's not even possible, I'm on wifi more than half the time I even use my phone.
Can anyone help me figure out what's going on? I only have 2GB per month of 4G from T-Mobile and previously with my S3 I've only used about 1GB per month and I haven't changed my usage patterns from when I switched. This is starting to scare me because I heavily rely on data sometimes whether it be for school or finding a phone number online or navigation or whatever. I don't want to get throttled mid month.
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that screenshot looks like normal data usage to me. i use more than 10gb-15gb a month, so hundreds of megabytes per day is average use. if you are worried about data use, dont use those apps that use/need data, or keep your data turned off until needed. and take control of you background apps/notifications, that uses your data without your knowledge of how much(but you let it). 2gb use for me takes about 5-6 days.
No offense to the guy who said he uses over 10 GB a month, but that's not normal usage. Most people get by just fine with much less. If I didn't stream from Google Play Music All Access, I'd never go over 2 GB. There are apps that will track data usage and find any excessive offenders (3G Watchdog is one). I don't know if that'll be more accurate or have more info than the stock meter. From the screenshot, you may just want to cut back on the Instagram.
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No offense to the guy who said he uses over 10 GB a month, but that's not normal usage. Most people get by just fine with much less. If I didn't stream from Google Play Music All Access, I'd never go over 2 GB. There are apps that will track data usage and find any excessive offenders (3G Watchdog is one). I don't know if that'll be more accurate or have more info than the stock meter. From the screenshot, you may just want to cut back on the Instagram.
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i like using my device to the fullest, more than just streaming music, thats one reason why i buy only nexus devices. but youre right, most people use less than 2gb. until they start really using their device, less as a phone in the traditional sense, and more as a mobile internet(tethering too)/information/data/entertainment/gaming/crackflashing device.
nyyankees1237 said:
Ever since I got my Nexus 4 (from S3) my data usage has been really funky. I check both the T-Mobile my account app and the built in data monitor and apparently I'm using hundreds of megabytes of data within just days? That's not even possible, I'm on wifi more than half the time I even use my phone.
Can anyone help me figure out what's going on? I only have 2GB per month of 4G from T-Mobile and previously with my S3 I've only used about 1GB per month and I haven't changed my usage patterns from when I switched. This is starting to scare me because I heavily rely on data sometimes whether it be for school or finding a phone number online or navigation or whatever. I don't want to get throttled mid month.
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But your main data usage is instagram, it would be pretty easy to cut that out unless on wifi.