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Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!
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Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!
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First off, welcome to XDA
Secondly, do you mean the 3G Camera or earpiece or the light sensor?
Can you provide image of what you are describing?
Check out page 25 of manual
Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.
DTNT said:
Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.
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No sensor, just your imagination, scratch or build defect.
I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!
DTNT said:
I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!
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I have check on my girlfriend's TouchHD and there is....... NOTHING!
There is nothing there. Your phone might have some kind of minor manufacturing flaw that makes you think there is something there. I have had my HD for a year and have never heard of anything being there. I looked at it from all angles, and compared it to the right side. My phone shows nothing. Both the left and the right side look the same.
Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!
DTNT said:
Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!
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I highly doubt there's anything. I've recently opened up my phone to replace the screen and had to mess around in there with the camera/speaker/light sensor and there was nothing else.
Please see attached photoes, can anybody explain this window dedication? Waiting for your replyes.
looks like a air bubble under the screen protector.
Oh common guys, it is not bubble, not scratch, please look on top of htc logo untill calldynamic, this thing placed between them. Mayby mine is special, super-assembled!!!
ok, i was doubtful but i checked anyway and couldnt see anything, then i saw your pics and thought id give it another try and nope, nada, then i figured id pull it to bits and have a gander and inside and still nothing.
Whilst this was slightly entertaining im affraid to say you have probably got a bubble under the first layer of screen.
That is the most likely explination, the chances you have a one off device that no one else has which has some mystical new sensor is so small you'd be better off putting your life savings and the money you made selling your house on the lottery in the hope you'll hit the big one!
Ok, if accept the version that it is bubble under first layer, can you explain why this bubble has so right geometric forms? The guy next to me has an IPhone, and even him thought that it is porximity sensor like his apple has. Strange and Mistyc!!!
I agree that the shape is very geometrical, and I can understand how it would make you think there is something special there. It is unique, but I still don't think it's related to any functions or features the phone has. Look at the letters "htc". You have a slight frame around each letter that is the same shade/color as the "window" you are referring to. My "htc" letters have no such frame around them. The black of the phone comes up directly to where the white letters start.
So, I think it's some kind of strange manufacturing effect.
I'll even attach the service manual for you to look at.
Download service manual here
To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.
Absolutely agree with htc letter, before your post i don't even see this feat, well, i think i should agree with that this window has no any function. Besides i saw off. manual, no-nothing. OK, waiting for another variants of reply.
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To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.
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Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.
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Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.
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I would just ask HTC directly on their contact site:
http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx
Looks like something trapped under the screen protector, did you peel it back and check?
Hi,
One iPhone fan boy suggested to compare my HD2 with his iPhone by simple test as described here:
http://labs.moto.com/diy-touchscreen-analysis/
What I saw on my screen looked less good than Motrola Droid. In some places there is splashes on the line (close to center of the screen).
Do you have straight lines on your HD2 devices ? Please let me know because I think that's explanation of troubles typing with built in keyboard, positioning is quite bad.
Thanks !
Tried it yesterday and I have straight lines.
Edge performance seems to be not so good on mine, more like the iPhone.
No problem here...
I have no problem with this test on my HD2 nice stright lines... anyway i am using fix for touchscreen sensitivity.
mine are nice straight lines as well.. seems like OP has unsteady hands!!
Straight lines here too. I tried that test as soon as i saw it on the web. The HD2 performs well.
I have exactly the same problem. Not with my first HD2 but the last one ! is it a hardware fault? HTC support is not able to help
That sensitivity (and straight lines) fix v3.3 will solve your problems! I installed it and its straight as an arrow... search the forum for it....
I've not installed anything...
I repeat. I did not have any problem with my old HD2 that had the earpiece broken. But I have it with my last HD2. I tested both. Could that be a faulty touch screen!?
No, certainly not. Maybe they're using touchscreens from different manufacturers.
What exactly is your problem? Cause what you see is in the first post is not a problem, a problem would be it the lines jumped several millimeters, but that's just a slight inaccuracy there (~1mm), nothing to worry about.
Wait for some more answers here, and I hope people will post screenshots, it might turn out that HTC uses two different touch panels.
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No, certainly not. Maybe they're using touchscreens from different manufacturers.
What exactly is your problem? Cause what you see is in the first post is not a problem, a problem would be it the lines jumped several millimeters, but that's just a slight inaccuracy there (~1mm), nothing to worry about.
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My problem is that sometimes the screen is accurate but suddenly it makes weird jitters like this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t54m1dSLnV8&feature=related
and specially this !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8MmIErLhag&feature=player_embedded
Ah OK, I see. That's something different, not the normal inaccuracy that the OP was talking about. In this case, yes, looks like a faulty device.
Have you tried if it goes away when you apply the tweaks here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604831&highlight=touchscreen
I haven't tried sensitivity fix myself, but I noticed that by default my device can't handle slow motion of finger. It starts jumping around as it was presented on you tube video as well.
i do have really straight and continous lines here too
Yes, I saw that and the first thing I thought of was the fact that I've yet to try an HD2 with a usable keyboard.
It would be nice if people could try this test without the sensitivity tweaks and see what kind of lines they get and also let us know if their keyboard is okay or not.
It would also bee good to know if the sensitivity tweaks affect the outcome of this test.
It would be nice if people could try this test without the sensitivity tweaks and see what kind of lines they get and also let us know if their keyboard is okay or not.
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Look at my screenshot in the second post. I've not done any sensitivity tweaks.
And my keyboard is perfectly fine.
Actually, th screenshot in the first post doesn't look bad either. Definitely not as bad as the Moto Droid, more like the HTC Droid Eris, and that's fine.
The only thing that's not fine is what you see in that youtube video. But that's another story, there's definitely something wrong with the device you see there.
Here's my screenshot again. As you can see, perfectly straight lines without any tweaks.
mine seems to be quite good, but I've done other experiment. breathe on the glass in Your window and draw same pattern. do it slowly... wth?? I have a faulty doubleglazed window... imho this test is not that relevant, as sometimes when sliding finger slowly it shakes slightly... or maybe it's just me??
Here are two more. Looks perfectly fine, IMO.
freyberry said:
Look at my screenshot in the second post. I've not done any sensitivity tweaks.
And my keyboard is perfectly fine.
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Thanks. This is the kind of information I was hoping for.
I'm really just wondering if people with poor line results are those with unusable keyboards. I remember there have been a few threads here about the keyboard and some people have no issue at all while others find their keyboards unusable.
What program are you using to draw the lines fella's?
First off, I'm not a hater.
I'm a previous HD2 user and in no way an apple fanboy.
However, I cannot fail to notice how increadibly bad our touch experience is with our dhd's. For instance, when you move your finger sideways, you'll notice how choppy it is.
Also, for example when playing Gun Bros, you'll notice that you won't be able to aim properly. Also there, it is choppy. Instead of giving all 360° you'll find segments where it just jumps over, if you understand what I mean.
I tried playing it on my friends iPhone 4, and it worked perfectly there. Very accurate.
I guess I just wanted to write my anger off and see if anyone agrees with me that HTC could have done a better job on the touch. I suppose samsung has a better touch with their 60 hz (or is it 69 hz) digitizer?
I have no issues at all with digitizer, what would say is that gun bros is still in beta stage.
I play plenty of games and not once come across any issues.
Yeah I've noticed that too when I was drawing stuff on it, when moving finger diagonally in a straight line it creates like a wavy line. Pretty disappointing but oh well, you can never have a perfect device...
I'm still happy I bought it though, much better then my last phone.
EDIT: Here's a pic, I tried my best to make straight lines as slowly as possible.
I find the touch screen perfect with no glitches or jumps in any game or app
Could be the game or could be an issue with your rom and the game
Do you have it overclocked and without general bugs? Those could be causing it
Or a power hungry app in the background making the game seem to jump
Another thought is a screen protector, when I put mine on it seemed to be alot less responsive
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I find the touch screen perfect with no glitches or jumps in any game or app
Could be the game or could be an issue with your rom and the game
Do you have it overclocked and without general bugs? Those could be causing it
Or a power hungry app in the background making the game seem to jump
Another thought is a screen protector, when I put mine on it seemed to be alot less responsive
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It's definately not an issue with the game, as I see this everywhere. It is a matter of the digitizer.
Also I am running it stock right now.
To those that say their screen is working perfectly, try flipping through the home screens very slowly from left to right or the other way around, with your finger on the screen all the time, and let me know if it follows the finger perfectly or if it's a bit choppy, as compared to when you go up and down in the app drawer for instance. You'll see about 9-10 "chops". This, I've reproduced on 3 different DHDs.
i'm using a -android Revolution HD and have no problems with the screen, i was trying to do dose things with finger and the window is yust there where i first put my finger on, so i don't see the problem here.
One of the kolegs have a iphone4 and we didn't notice a diference when using mine or his phone...
sorry for bad einglish
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One of the kolegs have a iphone4 and we didn't notice a diference when using mine or his phone...
sorry for bad einglish
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yeah, one of my friends has an iphone 4 and doesnt notice the difference
we excuse your bad "einglish"
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EDIT: Here's a pic, I tried my best to make straight lines.
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That is exactly what im talking about. Vertically it works fine but horizontally it is choppy big time! hence you cannot get a straight diagonal.
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Agree completely. Very poor from HTC. Again.
I'll probably be shot down in flames by the HTC apologists around here...
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There no reason to get flamed, we're merely stating the truth.
Surely, the dhd is a great device, but we shouldn't ignore the fact that even HD2 was smoother horizontally. The fact that a high end device cannot draw diagonals across the screen is simply crazy, seeing as it was possible with previous devices, and I cannot help to feel a bit ripped off from htc.
But before concluding too much, is there anyone that actually cannot reproduce this problem? If so, please post a picture where you can draw a diagonal (of course by moving your finger in a slow enough motion)
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No problems with the touch screen here, I do a lot of gaming and never run into a single issue.
dhiral.v said:
No problems with the touch screen here, I do a lot of gaming and never run into a single issue.
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Please, as I said, try to reproduce drawing a diagonal before you say you don't have any problem. Or you'll just be spamming this thread.
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ErOR22 said:
Yeah I've noticed that too when I was drawing stuff on it, when moving finger diagonally in a straight line it creates like a wavy line. Pretty disappointing but oh well, you can never have a perfect device...
I'm still happy I bought it though, much better then my last phone.
EDIT: Here's a pic, I tried my best to make straight lines.
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I tried to do this with a drawing app and I can make "straight" diagonal lines when using a swipe action. I can also recreate the sample posted by drawing the line slowly.
What this means for the digitizer, I will leave for others to pursue.
Cheers from my DHD.
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I tried to do this with a drawing app and I can make "straight" diagonal lines when using a swipe action. I can also recreate the sample posted by drawing the line slowly.
What this means for the digitizer, I will leave for others to pursue.
Cheers from my DHD.
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Yep, when drawing diagonally in a fast sweep motion the line is drawn correctly and when drawing slowly it becomes wavy.
I'm also interested if there's anyone not having this issue.
for me, fast would be straight and slow would be wavy...
It could be bad software. I read the LauncherPro thread here on XDA, and people are experiencing this choppy behavior on their Nexus S' and so on using LP.
Bad Sense coding? Might be. Can people with custom ROMs post their results?
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I took that picture on LeeDroid 1.5.1 but that being said, it was the same result when I was on stock as I tested it out before.
I wonder if it's the same with a CM7 Gingerbread ROM.
junta_mpb said:
I tried to do this with a drawing app and I can make "straight" diagonal lines when using a swipe action. I can also recreate the sample posted by drawing the line slowly.
What this means for the digitizer, I will leave for others to pursue.
Cheers from my DHD.
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Id say that when moving fast you exceed the 50 hz limit and not all the "reading points" are used.
But it might be software related, could anyone with CM7 try to reproduce this?
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It is all about software, the digitizer itself is great. I have a touchscreen pen, and I can draw bullet straight lines with it, no matter how fast or slow.
Then when I put my thumb on the screen and draw, the result is wavy. Our devices just need better handling for large touch areas.
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It is all about software, the digitizer itself is great. I have a touchscreen pen, and I can draw bullet straight lines with it, no matter how fast or slow.
Then when I put my thumb on the screen and draw, the result is wavy. Our devices just need better handling for large touch areas.
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Hmm! He's right you know. If I press VERY lightly (so only the very tip of my finger is on the screen) I get a pretty straight diagonal - but if I press down with the pad of my thumb, it's got the steps in it.
Seems like it's having issues determining which point is actually the centre of the capacitance.
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Im wondering if, because of the hinge, can I put the HTC Desire Z in front of me, while I look upwards at the ceiling with me seeing what on the screen...
A (bad ) drawing example is included.
Some sites say that it cant be done but they havent tried it as I havent read anything with personal expirence with this issue and this is pretty important to me. Thanks.
I guess i don't understand. Are you saying that some are saying you shouldn't do this for some reason?
I am able to, but I know others who aren't.
it helps that when I hold my phone to type on the physical keyboard, my index fingers naturally wrap around the screen, which holds it in place... but even if I intentionally move my index fingers so that there is nothing hindering the screen from moving by itself, it does stay up. if I give the phone a slight wiggle, it will pop down though.
again, I believe with these phones it just varies from device to device... the hinge threads I've read have been all over the place.
pmcqueen said:
I am able to, but I know others who aren't.
it helps that when I hold my phone to type on the physical keyboard, my index fingers naturally wrap around the screen, which holds it in place... but even if I intentionally move my index fingers so that there is nothing hindering the screen from moving by itself, it does stay up. if I give the phone a slight wiggle, it will pop down though.
again, I believe with these phones it just varies from device to device... the hinge threads I've read have been all over the place.
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Ditto for me too.
It fine the week I got it but after a month of use it's loose and I also jsut hold it inplace
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I guess i don't understand. Are you saying that some are saying you shouldn't do this for some reason?
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No, I ment some are saying you cant, some are saying you can, some dont say anything at all....
Thanks for the replies. I thought of 2 fixes/mods:
1: A thing magent
2: Tighten screws (if there are)
Feedback? I mean lying on my bed typing is problably something Im going to do alot.
In Bed
riahc3 said:
Hey
Im wondering if, because of the hinge, can I put the HTC Desire Z in front of me, while I look upwards at the ceiling with me seeing what on the screen...
A (bad ) drawing example is included.
Some sites say that it cant be done but they havent tried it as I havent read anything with personal expirence with this issue and this is pretty important to me. Thanks.
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LOL, man! One of the funniest posts I have ever seen. Even with that drawing.
To answer, though, I hardly manage to type like this, because the device tends to close. You can hold it with your thumbs, though.
I love your drawing, buddy
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No, I ment some are saying you cant, some are saying you can, some dont say anything at all....
Thanks for the replies. I thought of 2 fixes/mods:
1: A thing magent
2: Tighten screws (if there are)
Feedback? I mean lying on my bed typing is problably something Im going to do alot.
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the accepted fix involves modifying the spring that opens/closes the hinge. there are several threads floating around with the process... note that it does void your warranty, however (you have to partially disassemble the phone). for me, the hinge hasn't been a huge nuisance anyway. yeah, it's loose... so what? you learn and adapt your "methods" to work around it as you use the phone. it has never caused a serious problem for me.
I would like to add that over time I have noticed it does loosen (noticably, but not so much that it has been a problem for me) more and more.. which makes sense because the spring is being compressed and relieved repeatedly.
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I guess i don't understand. Are you saying that some are saying you shouldn't do this for some reason?
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pmcqueen said:
the accepted fix involves modifying the spring that opens/closes the hinge. there are several threads floating around with the process... note that it does void your warranty, however (you have to partially disassemble the phone). for me, the hinge hasn't been a huge nuisance anyway. yeah, it's loose... so what? you learn and adapt your "methods" to work around it as you use the phone. it has never caused a serious problem for me.
I would like to add that over time I have noticed it does loosen (noticably, but not so much that it has been a problem for me) more and more.. which makes sense because the spring is being compressed and relieved repeatedly.
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Obviously, your needs arent the same as mine. You say "so what?" if the screen closes and Id like it to stay open.
Could you please post some links to those threads? Id like to see if the process is difficult.
Thanks
I rarely use the phone laying on my back, but when I do I move my hands a little bit higher on the keyboard and push my index fingers inwards toward each other slightly so that they are touching the device where the screen meets the keyboard. Holds it in place just fine, no need to modify the springs.
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Obviously, your needs arent the same as mine. You say "so what?" if the screen closes and Id like it to stay open.
Could you please post some links to those threads? Id like to see if the process is difficult.
Thanks
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I think you misunderstood (I didn't word that very well - apologies). I'm not saying it's not an issue, it is an issue.
but, as I and a couple others have posted here, there is a remedy: positioning your index fingers such that they hold the screen if you are one of the unlucky ones who gets a hinge that is so sloppy that it falls at whim. on my G2, I don't even have to do this, but I do it naturally so it's added security that the screen isn't going to slam shut.
there's no such thing as a perfect phone. but as far as android phones with keyboards go, you're not going to do much better than the DZ/G2 at this point.. that is a fact.
here's a link to the best hinge fix thread I've gone through:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863919
if you search "hinge" in the main G2/DZ subforum, you'll get a plethora of thread matches.
pmcqueen said:
here's a link to the best hinge fix thread I've gone through:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863919
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Cant "Thanks" you as it says more than 5 per day arent allowed so....
Intresting. Looks a bit complicated though but I guess Ill have to do it if I want to use the phone correctly the way I wanted.
Thank you
Just as a update: I can use my phone perfectly without applying any fix about using it for about 3-4 months. There is no issue at all.
That bed is too small. Your legs are hanging off that would drive me crazy.
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This will be hard to explain but I'll do my best. So I found out about this while playing a game. Anyway when I use an app like multitouch visualiser it draws a horizontal and vertical line trough the point where I put my first finger. Then, when I put my second finger on the screen and move it for example upwards, so that it crosses the horizontal line of my first finger, the point where my first finger is will move slightly down. (also happens when moving the second finger downwards but then the point will go upwards, and when moving the second finger trough the vertical line the same happens). And yes this is actually affecting my user experience as I play games which require 2 fingers.
But I haven't experienced this earlier as far as I know so my hope is that it is the problem of the new update (I just updated the phone yesterday). I don't know though.
So can anybody tell me whether they have this or not?
Here's a video. Sorry for the bad quality but I think it may be enough to give you guys an idea of what the problem is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dv_Gm7gehI
Come one, anyone?
S2 doesn't have proper multi-touch....
Only apple devices have it.
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S2 doesn't have proper multi-touch....
Only apple devices have it.
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So this problem is known?
I'd suggest using multitouch visualiser 2 as it's for devices with 3+ multitouch so it will be more accurate. I've tried it with mine and I do not have the problem you describe.
Incidentally, please ignore the obvious troll. What he said is rubbish.
johncmolyneux said:
I'd suggest using multitouch visualiser 2 as it's for devices with 3+ multitouch so it will be more accurate. I've tried it with mine and I do not have the problem you describe.
Incidentally, please ignore the obvious troll. What he said is rubbish.
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Yeah that's one of the 3 apps I tried it with. And cause I played Chaos and Magic before a lot, and only just started noticing the problem, while playing that game, I just hope it's the "new" (KG2) firmware. I'll wait for the 2.3.4 update (which is not out yet in my country). If the problem is still present I might return the phone..
i tried doing like you mention it and found no problem.
Also tried holding 1 finger still in the middle of the screen and almost circling around it with another finger from my other hand.
I see no change whatsoever in the position for the 1st finger.
temp9300 said:
i tried doing like you mention it and found no problem.
Also tried holding 1 finger still in the middle of the screen and almost circling around it with another finger from my other hand.
I see no change whatsoever in the position for the 1st finger.
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Yeah - just tried that with the same results. I'm on 2.3.5 KH3.
temp9300 said:
i tried doing like you mention it and found no problem.
Also tried holding 1 finger still in the middle of the screen and almost circling around it with another finger from my other hand.
I see no change whatsoever in the position for the 1st finger.
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If you only put your finger on the screen and don't move it, the position is locked till you move it. So could you please try putting the first finger on the screen, then moving it and then do the rest.
Thanks in advance
fenjen said:
Here's a video. Sorry for the bad quality but I think it may be enough to give you guys an idea of what the problem is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dv_Gm7gehI
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Sorry mate, but I see no problems with that whatsoever. I really don't see what you're getting at now that you've uploaded the video. Bear in mind that the circles around your fingers do shrink slightly when you cross axis, but other than that I see no movement at all.
The bit at the end where you have 2 fingers on the screen when scrolling through home screens is not relevant. That's just software that's only meant to be single touch trying to make sense of what you're doing, and is no reflection on the accuracy of the screen.
If you can see an issue on that video then I definitely can't be of any help, because I simply don't see anything wrong.
this is getting a bit confusing but i tried doing as you mentioned.
This time i moved both fingers at the same time and let the lines cross. I still don't see any problem, everything is smooth and looks fine.
maybe you can do a video showing the problem?
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Sorry mate, but I see no problems with that whatsoever. I really don't see what you're getting at now that you've uploaded the video. Bear in mind that the circles around your fingers do shrink slightly when you cross axis, but other than that I see no movement at all.
The bit at the end where you have 2 fingers on the screen when scrolling through home screens is not relevant. That's just software that's only meant to be single touch trying to make sense of what you're doing, and is no reflection on the accuracy of the screen.
If you can see an issue on that video then I definitely can't be of any help, because I simply don't see anything wrong.
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Imo you can clearly see the circle moves up and down, but the circle really moves upwards and downwards. I wasn't talking about the circles becoming bigger, only about the movement.
The bit of the homescreen is actually relevant as it only detects the first finger, and it behaves exactly the same as in the test apps (only moves when moving the second finger near the first). This behavior also happens in games which makes me for example look up and down (N.O.V.A or Order and Chaos) or shot another direction (PewPew)
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temp9300 said:
this is getting a bit confusing but i tried doing as you mentioned.
This time i moved both fingers at the same time and let the lines cross. I still don't see any problem, everything is smooth and looks fine.
maybe you can do a video showing the problem?
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You can see the video in my first post. Someone else said the problem is not visible, but you can decide for yourself. Also I didn't mean you have to move your two fingers at the same time. If you don't move your first finger the position is locked so you have to move it first a bit and then hold it still.
Sorry for being confusing though, I'm doing my best to explain it as clear as possible.
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I think it is pretty clear to see at around 1:12
It seems I can replicate the issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpfUAJ8p8cc
If I plonk the finger on my screen without any movement the first touchpoint doesn't bob at all. As soon as I move the first finger it starts bobbing up and down when the multitouch points are crossed.
i watched the video, it seems there is some very slight movement in the other circle (i'm not talking about the diameter) but it's so small that i can't be sure you didn't move the finger slightly yourself a bit.
Anyway, tried to replicate it with no success, there is absolutely no extra movement on the 1st finger when the 2nd crosses the horizontal or vertical axis.
chazam said:
It seems I can replicate the issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpfUAJ8p8cc
If I plonk the finger on my screen without any movement the first touchpoint doesn't bob at all. As soon as I move the first finger it starts bobbing up and down when the multitouch points are crossed.
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Thanks for that vid. So it might just be a problem in the line or in the sofware.. What firmwire are you on? I'm on the Dutch version of KG2.
But as I now know I'm not the only one with this problem I'm just going to wait for the next firmware update and see if the problem is resolved. If not, I might go to the T-Mobile store to see what they think.
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temp9300 said:
i watched the video, it seems there is some very slight movement in the other circle (i'm not talking about the diameter) but it's so small that i can't be sure you didn't move the finger slightly yourself a bit.
Anyway, tried to replicate it with no success, there is absolutely no extra movement on the 1st finger when the 2nd crosses the horizontal or vertical axis.
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I'm sure I didn't move it myself as it doesn't move that way when just holding my first finger still. Anyway thanks for still trying. But my last question is, what is the firmware you are on?
fenjen said:
Thanks for that vid. So it might just be a problem in the line or in the sofware.. What firmwire are you on? I'm on the Dutch version of KG2.
But as I now know I'm not the only one with this problem I'm just going to wait for the next firmware update and see if the problem is resolved. If not, I might go to the T-Mobile store to see what they think.
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I recently debranded my SGSII to I9100XWKF3 I9100XXKE7 I9100XEUKD1 (stock UK firmware).
chazam said:
I recently debranded my SGSII to I9100XWKF3 I9100XXKE7 I9100XEUKD1 (stock UK firmware).
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Hmm is that android 2.3.3?
fenjen said:
Hmm is that android 2.3.3?
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Yeah, still 2.3.3.
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Yeah, still 2.3.3.
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Ok. I'll just wait for the 2.3.4 update then, and see if the problem persists.. Thx for your help
fenjen said:
Ok. I'll just wait for the 2.3.4 update then, and see if the problem persists.. Thx for your help
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The problem uve mentioned does persist. Ive just reproduced it on my Lite`ning ROM 6.1 (android 2.3.4, ninphetamine 2.0.5, XXKH3).