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I had all of my SMS messages for over a year saved on the phone. A couple thousand of them at least. Until today.
I was receiving a couple of SMS from a friend of mine and lamenting that the built in messaging software doesn't provide a nice way to see a message at a glance without having to unlock the phone and bring down the notification bar, etc. With my G1 I had been using SMS popup for most of this past year and I liked it, but thought I would just try seeing how it was living with the basic messaging system on the N1 since I got it.
So, just as I'm thinking that maybe I should reinstall SMS popup since the built-in support had me swiping and swiping too much to just check the messages I get a FC on the "MMS" system app. Through the FC screen I could see all the thread of messages and was worried that if I FC'd it then I would lose the latest message. Well, that's not exactly the danger there.
I OK'd the FC message and the messaging app closed, and then I brought it back up and I have 1 single message saved - just that last message, nothing else. All couple thousand messages my phone had been dutifully saving for me for over a year - from the earliest RC releases of Android 1.0 when I got my G1 the night before it was released - all the way through cupcake and donut, all the way through my experiments with using Cyanogen through the month of December - through thick and thin - all of them are gone now from one FC on a seemingly innocuous message.
And, even more oddly - the single message I'm left with doesn't show the sender's contact picture.
Grrrrr... Should have backed up more often I guess. At least I have a backup from a couple of weeks ago when I switched from my G1 to my N1.
So, beware - backup your SMS/MMS early and often if you want to save your history...
Try using handcent app it has pop up built in also.
Get SMS Backup and Restore from the Market... I back up my SMS messages every few weeks.
uansari1 said:
Get SMS Backup and Restore from the Market... I back up my SMS messages every few weeks.
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I use MyBackupPro - any reason to switch?
(It has scheduled backup capabilities, but I've never made use of them...)
flarbear said:
I use MyBackupPro - any reason to switch?
(It has scheduled backup capabilities, but I've never made use of them...)
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Nope... no reason to switch if you've already paid for MBP. Probably want to start using the scheduled backup now though, eh?
Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?
pjcforpres said:
Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?
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Thank you. I was wondering the same exact thing. If they were that important, why not have people send messages to your gmail so that it's saved to the cloud. . . Or, setup a GoogleVoice account and have all SMS go there, then forward to your phone, so that they're still on the cloud.
pjcforpres said:
Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?
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The phone keeps up with it quite fine. In the first 1.0 releases it would take a long time to open the Messages app if you had more than a few dozen messages, but they fixed that in one of the earlier releases and so there was no real performance penalty to keeping all messages. By the time I reached enough messages for it to possibly trigger that performance problem they had released the fix. And since then it's been smooth sailing with upwards of 4000 messages.
My question back is - why delete them? I'm a pack rat. I save things, especially when there is no reason to get rid of them. Now, keeping physical things around the home - that can get to be a problem and so there is a cost to keeping everything, but email and SMS - keeping them is essentially "free" (I've never even noticed the storage hit on any of my Blackberry or Android phones) and you never know when you are going to want to go back and say "Actually, you texted me XXX and YYY back in March" just to needle someone... ;-)
And yes, I have a couple of gigabytes worth of email saved on my laptop from the past decade or so too. (Though I do delete most messages at work - anything of the nature of "this weekly meeting will be held in such and such a room" or "Can someone fix the build?" or an automated status message from a server get deleted, but anything with any technical content gets saved...and has occasionally proven useful...)
Mi|enko said:
If they were that important, why not have people send messages to your gmail so that it's saved to the cloud. . .
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They aren't "that important". I'm just a data packrat by nature. Storage is cheap nowadays. ;-)
Mi|enko said:
Or, setup a GoogleVoice account and have all SMS go there, then forward to your phone, so that they're still on the cloud.
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I haven't delved into Google Voice at this point, but that does sound like an interesting solution...
I can't imagine why you would want to keep a years worth of sms!
I purge all mine fairly regularly anyway, just to clean up.
I use G-backup to backup my SMS/MMS and call logs to GMail
Fair enough. I am a huge car nut, and have a bit of a pack rat nature as well. So, I have a garage stall filled with spare parts for Volvo 240's, and then random bits from other cars that might be useable on a Volvo 240, or a future planned project car. As well, I have managed to gather a small pile, yes small, of tools.
I just never though SMS would be affected by a pack rat mentality. For me, it is one of the few things I do keep neat and clean. Hell, I am that guy that saves 1 of every different beer bottle he has ever had, and so forth. I got it from my mom, she had 3 giant plastic buckets filled with receipts from who knows how long(at least 15 years!)
I had this happen to me as well and I was pretty pissed. I'm a packrat by nature as well, so this didn't sit well with me. And it seemed to happen in a similar way with me. I was using chompsms and got a new text, read it, went back to my conversation list, and it was the only one in there, and even then that text was the only text in that conversation.
But I guess it was time to start over anyways, but with the kind of stuff I'm involved with, text records can be very important sometimes.
They're just texts, no one cares about them.
midnite23 said:
but with the kind of stuff I'm involved with, text records can be very important sometimes.
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Sms backup saves all your texts to your gmail with an sms tag. It backs them up when theyre received so youll never lose them.
muncheese said:
They're just texts, no one cares about them.
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Clearly some people do.
midnite23 said:
Clearly some people do.
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That's my point.
Anything really important should never reside in a 160 character medium.
Clearly, you've never heard of twitter....
muncheese said:
That's my point.
Anything really important should never reside in a 160 character medium.
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Hello!? Those late night texts are never something that would hold up in court or anything, but they are worth their weight in gold on the "social blackmail" black market...
I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.
Try another messaging app like handcent or chomp. You have choices.
No problems here, and I'm on my 2nd Android phone. Both have worked great with no problems such as yours.
Seems like more of a rant then a request for help. that being said, my family has 5 Evo's between us and we have had not one complaint with the SMS. possibly sprint service in the area? i know when i'm in smaller towns the sms seems to lag, almost like its stuck in queue somewhere before being sent to me.
good luck mate!
Use Handcent. Problem solved. The stock app is slow and sucks.
If you hate it, go back to the iPhone where you obviously came from?
Now to try to find a question to answer within all that complaining....... hmmm... oh yes, I'm having issues with the SMS coming in odd orders occasionally. I did not ever experience this with my Hero.
So what I can derive from that is that this particular release of Sense, which is NOT Android, has a bug. You need to differentiate between the OS and the VERY deep reaching Sense UI that HTC puts on top.
I'd tell you to wait for the ROM development to pick up, but something tells me you're not a tinkerer. The iPhone is a fantastic phone.. you just can't tinker as much as you can with Android. So with Android you'll have choices but you'll have bugs. It's just something I come to expect.
It's like running Linux. Sure it's trendy to hate Microsoft, but holy hell there are a lot of problems with Linux apps in design, UI, and in general stability (Note, I didn't say Linux has problems.. I said apps. Because it's the crap on top of the underlying system I have complaints with). I still love it, I just have to approach it with an attitude that it's not going to be as polished as OS X, and it's not going to be as stable either.
Welcome to Open Source and the stuff people put out with it.
After hearing everyone praise handcent I decided to give it a try myself and wow is it better. Choice is very nice
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Edited to remove ranting, I'll give handcent a shot. Hopefully it doesn't lose random messages =(.
I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?
pekosROB said:
I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?
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Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.
BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?
pekosROB said:
Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.
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Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.
afazel said:
Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.
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Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?
pekosROB said:
Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?
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Handcent has its own notification settings.
Jye75 said:
Handcent has its own notification settings.
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Thanks, I turned off the messaging app notification and it still notified me when I got a text.
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BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?
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Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.
I prefer chomp, and have had no issues. well maybe one, or two texts out of order. Like if the sender typed a "two page" text and sent, then sent a short text the short one might come in before the second half of the "two page" text.
roybotnik said:
I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.
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that doesn't happen with my sms app but it does happen with my google mail from time to time.
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Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.
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I ran some tests and I can send over 3g it's only when wifi is enabled. So I did some research and found out sprint only sends MMS over their connections. The default messaging app will bypass wifi and use 3g to send mms. Handcent had patched this for the Hero.
I'd like to put in a plug for ChompSMS. I hadn't used it before, but people were saying that it automatically resizes your pictures when sending MMS. Maybe this isn't a problem on the Evo, but it was on the Hero. I will occasionally get a text out of order if someone sends me a long one that is broken up into more than 2 messages. But, I really like it's interface better than Handcent, which I have also used. As far as I know, I have never had a text go missing when using Chomp.
Android is all about choice. It's really nice to have all these choices and these are FREE (as in beer).
Hi, I have a question about deleting multiple emails or sms. When I go to either one of them, I can not select more than one (I used to have X1 and when I clicked on one of them and keep scrolling down, I could select more than one). Is there any way? Do I need to dowload a program?
Thanks!
chimas16 said:
Hi, I have a question about deleting multiple emails or sms. When I go to either one of them, I can not select more than one (I used to have X1 and when I clicked on one of them and keep scrolling down, I could select more than one). Is there any way? Do I need to dowload a program?
Thanks!
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If you want to delete a whole sms thread, then you can just long press on it and you should get a popup where u can choose delete entire thread
No idea about email - the inbuilt mail app sucks anyway
Thanks, but the what I more need to know is how do I delete multiple emails, instead of deleting each individually and just click on one and scroll down until I select the ones I want to delete. I guess is not possible...that really sucks
I feel like a broken record, and honest I don't work for them, but Handcent SMS allows you to delete multiple threads. It does lots of other stuff too.
The email app does absolutely suck, but having looked for the answer on this before I believe it is an android problem not just an X10 prob. Not found any answers on any of the forums that I lurk on.
suzed said:
I feel like a broken record, and honest I don't work for them, but Handcent SMS allows you to delete multiple threads. It does lots of other stuff too.
The email app does absolutely suck, but having looked for the answer on this before I believe it is an android problem not just an X10 prob. Not found any answers on any of the forums that I lurk on.
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Have you been able to find a decent email app?
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Have you been able to find a decent email app?
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The 2 most popular email apps are K-9 Mail, and Droidmail. I personally prefer K-9, but both are better than the regular email app that comes with android.
Multi-Select delete, and all of those great options are there in K-9.
Ok thanks! Hope they do something soon for this matter.
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The 2 most popular email apps are K-9 Mail, and Droidmail. I personally prefer K-9, but both are better than the regular email app that comes with android.
Multi-Select delete, and all of those great options are there in K-9.
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Ooooh thanks for the heads up. Must have missed this one on my trolling thru. Downloading now. See, it is true you learn something new everyday!
Update... have downloaded it and finally found a way to get rid of the gmail folders, as I dont use them, that are a constant on the stock app. Loving it so far. Thanks again
For deleting multiple sms without wiping a thread, there's an app called sms cleaner. Couple of different options for deleting messages including by date received and keyword. Some reviews say it doesn't work, but it's because the numbers don't reflect instantly. Waiting a bit after closing the messaging app and checking later will show the correct number of messages remaining.
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I know i'm over looking something very simple. I see an option to disable vibrate for calls, but do not see anything for notifications.
TIA gents.
i didnt see it either.
I think they are in the individual apps. Like for SMS, there is a vibrate notification option in the settings of the SMS app itself.
rikfu said:
I think they are in the individual apps. Like for SMS, there is a vibrate notification option in the settings of the SMS app itself.
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Good call kind sir. Worked for me!
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Good call kind sir. Worked for me!
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Cool. I searched for hours trying to find out how to do that, lol. I guess that what happens when you're coming from WinMo.
Because it is clearly too much to expect google to make it as easy as windows or an iphone.
For this, and also for alarms, for selecting text, for clicking on phone numbers and urls (not all of which work) in email and calendar entries, etc.
I would be very surprised if froyo fixes any of this.
Maybe the googlies made too much money on the stock that they simply don't care because they already own iphones.
end of rant.
Does any one know how to disable threaded sms in android..
Any body there....
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should be apps for that on market.
but i think its one of the best features they added to sms app
and you shouldent be asking those sort of questions in dev-forum right?
WHY? threaded sms is a top invention of 21st century. I can not think of one reason to disable that. Did you try Google it?
zmesler said:
WHY? threaded sms is a top invention of 21st century. I can not think of one reason to disable that. Did you try Google it?
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^ Indeed, why would you even want that inbox-sh*t.
i hate it too and would love to know if it can be turned off.... its the first thing i do on a winmo phone. sometimes i just want to keep one particular text someone has sent. maybe its a personal message or some important information i want to be able to get to straight away. id rather keep all the messages seperate so i can see whats what. with threaded texts its buried in a huge conversation. i can understand why people might want it, but theres plenty who dont want it aswell, so why not give us the choice?
I'm not completley sure, but I THINK Handcent gives you that option..
But I may be wrong and I'm kind of tired so don't expect me to be right.
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i hate it too and would love to know if it can be turned off.... its the first thing i do on a winmo phone. sometimes i just want to keep one particular text someone has sent. maybe its a personal message or some important information i want to be able to get to straight away. id rather keep all the messages seperate so i can see whats what. with threaded texts its buried in a huge conversation. i can understand why people might want it, but theres plenty who dont want it aswell, so why not give us the choice?
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Well you could scroll to the message you want , press hold it and select lock message. Thus of you delete the entire thread and not tick the delete lock messages button, what you would have left is only the locked message.
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