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I know it's been said on other forums, i'm not sure if it has been said in this one though. Anyways, with supposed unrestricted use to the services of the phone, i can't wait to see what sort of games we can see on Android. With wifi, 3g, and bluetooth, this can be the ultimate gaming platform and capitalize where wm and apple didn't. Imagine mmo's, multiplayer deathmatches, or something as simple as spades, all online or played on bluetooth. And androids focus on playing in wm territory can mean potential for a huge installer base. The future for Android looks bright indeed.
http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/07/18/google-remove-xmpp-support-in-android/
apps for android are Managed code in java which in most cases is the enemy of speed
and supporting 3d features in cpu and gpu though
Any phone I have had since the Nokia 3300 has become a gaming phone for me. Special kudos to playing Dragon Warrior I & II on the Nokia 6600's gameboy emulator.
(I wish the trackball would be on the left like gaming controllers, which was the first major thing I had to adapt to when going from Wing to G1, but oh well - what can ya do?)
The one thing i would love to see for the android is pocketnesterplus. I'm not sure if there is a way to use it with g1, but hopefully one will come out soon for the nes games. Its extremely hard to play alot of the nes games on most phones but with trackball it would be easier to control the directions. I've heard some of the top game companies are coming on board, all of them better if they're smart!!!
it seems like there was an opengl demo by google a while back where they ran doom I would like to see more 3D games esp if they are written to run off the kernel and display thru the FB device that android creates. As far as I know there is no reason that android apps NEED to be in java.... maybe to be on the market they do... but it's a linux kernel... it should run arm9/11 compiled programs
Does anyone know if there will be development of an emulator for old school consoles like NES and SNES?
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Does anyone know if there will be development of an emulator for old school consoles like NES and SNES?
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Haven't seen any announcements of one(except that there's a really slow gameboy emulator on the marketplace) but I can say with 99.999999% assurance that there will be some.
I am really thinking about getting the HTC HD2.
I have just seen some videos of fully running android 2.2 on the HD2 just wondering if this was possible and if so how easy is it.
I was also wondering the gaming capabilities.
Because i know that android, webos and iphones can play gameloft games like NOVA, Avatar, sims 3 so can the HD2?
Thanks!!!!
PS: The thought of having windows phone 6.5 (possible chance of windows phone 7) as well as android 2.2 on one phone blows my mind away, it really does!!!
Evan
It truely is an awesome phone... however, the andriod port is still very much a work in progress and difficult for the average user to set up. MS and HTC has clearly stated that the HD2 will not recieve a WP7 upgrade, so it would also have to be a user port.
Considering that it is unlikely a port of either andriod or WP7 will ever reach the functionality and stability of a device that ships with the OS, you should not get this phone based only on the possibilty of running multiple OS. If, on the other hand, you are very comfortable with winmo 6.5 then yes, the HD2 is a wonderful device.
As for gaming, I don't have any experience with gameloft games (since I don't like to pay for stuff) but there are TONS of great games that work perfectly well. With Morphgear and FPSEce, you have hundereds of classic games at your disposal (assuming you know where to get the ROMs)
some of the videos show the android 2.2 (Froyo) running really smoothly and loads of the functions working, including the app store which surely means you could get some of the android apps as well which would be cool.
I don't mind how well it works and if some bits don't work, just the fact that i could have both operating systems would be cool.
I also know about the windows phone 7 announcments but the chance of someone building a ROM for it are quite likely.
With the games i found on the Nokia n900 it was able to play a n64 emulator, can the HD2, so it can play Ocarina of Time etc. would be amazing on the HD2 and if the n900 can do it the HD2 definatley can.
But yer i have seen some quite nice games on windows phones ( and android and seeing as the chances are that you might be able to acess both app stores...)
I'm not aware of any N64 emulator in development for the HD2. Morphgear can do up to Snes and FPSEce does PSX very well. The Win95 emulator runs good for me as well so I can play a few classic PC games as well.
i personally think if this phone had a n64 emulator it would be one of the most amazing phones, the large range of games on the n64 is amazing if u look at the n900 it runs them quite slow but on the htc it would be super duper
am i allowed to put video links on this forum so i can show the video i found on android 2.2 running well on the HD2?
I'm sure I've seen it. This one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f891vm6vWHM
yes thats the one.
It just looks so nice and is so smooth and fast.
It just looks amazing!!!
But yer it does indeed look like a very nice device
does the psx, gba etc. emulators run at full speed (or faster than other devices) because i have seen some on other OS that go really slowly
I get a pretty steady 60fps when playing playstation games and I've never experienced the slightest slowdown in Morphgear either. Occasionally the Psx will drop a bit during some highly demanding situations but the worst I've gotten is a few seconds of about 30fps before it's back to normal. The games I've tested are Battle Arena, Coolboarders 2, MLB 2005, FF7, Driver 2. All work really nice.
Hi Just to add a bit of input here...
Yeah the HD2 is awesome.
About Android - the current Desire V5 port with latest zImage is 'almost' perfect.
Its as smooth and fast as a HTC Desire (compared side by side with a colleagues Desire).
Pretty much everything is working and the stability issues are almost fully gone (i'v had it running all day with no freezes or crashes).
I can download items from the market and they work perfectly - games included so yeah Android on the HD2 is really amazing.
Also don't be put off installing Android it's nowhere near as complicated as the previous poster makes out - there are a lot of useful guides in the Android threads - as long as you know how to drag and drop files your good to go. There's even a dual boot app that aloows you to choose which OS you boot into at start up.
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Paul
fpsece runs at full speed on HD2 - there's loads of videos on youtube if you want to check it out. This alone was one of the biggest reasons I got the H2
Personally I'm really happy with my HD2 because I have got two operating systems on one device...brilliant.
with Android..All the apps/games i've downloaded from the marketplace have worked so far.
At the moment I still use winmo for day to day use, but I boot android up when I want to view any flash website (android's got flash 10.1, winmo's not) or use any of the apps that are just on android like.. footmob or solo
If I broke my HD2 today, i'd still go out and buy another one instead of anything else that's available
Dual Booting sounds so awesome.
I really want to try thi out!
are there any other OS that can be used, cause that would be cool
e.g. WebOs, Maemo 5 etc.
Well this thread makes things so normal.
Comon both mentioned thing are so awesome. Playstation games on mobile phone? It wont get more awesome than this. Comon people it also have multitouch, G-sensor and more stuff (like vibration feedback).
Also the latest ANDROID runs so great. The speed is amazing. The stability is just great and almost everything works.
Comon guys be more enthusiam about it (oO,)
i just thought about dual booting and the amazing possibilities of this.
I know some people may have put some posts and showed there intrest in thise but what if you could dual boot more than 2 operating systems!
What if on one device you could have
1. Windows
2. Android
3. Maemo
4. Web OS
This could make one Legendary device and surely is possible on the HD2 if this happened or even if 3 os were managed it would be orgasmic.
OMG i would love it.
Just the possibilities AHHHH!
I am so excited!!!
does anyone know if that is possible??????
please answer because i am really excites
it can run win 95 remember...... that counts as an os right?
At the moment the only real "dual boot" is Linux/Andriod and WM. You can run Windows 95 on top of WinMo, but techically you're not booting into it, just emulating it. I've read Win 98 also works but it's very slow (havn't tried '98 personally). Andriod is comming along really well. I'm running Desire V5 at the moment, but contrary to what a previous poster mentioned, I experience quite a bit of lag/freezing (depending on what I'm doing). It may be that I need to flash a different ROM I'm sure the experience varies from user to user, but it's far from perfect for me atm. Don't get me wrong, much of it works very well and avioding the parts that are not quite complete helps. But when using Android on my wife's Evo4g and on my HD2 side by side, the difference is noticable (as would be expected). It's also not quite as simple as "drag & drop & run". It's not rocket science either but you should familarize yourself with flashing HSPL and Radio Roms as this may be necessary to get everything working properly.
I'm not aware of any port of WebOS or Maemo but since they run off the linux kernel it should be possible. I'm not sure if there would be enough demand however, to make it worth the time/effort requried to get it working.
i would pay for both of those ports i really would
you never know...
have you decided on the HD2 for certain then?
Two games that would be awesome on android...will it ever happen?? Can it happen?? The phones are certainly more than capable of running the games...
I saw a Starcraft port in Google Code Hosting.
Are the games even natively supported on linux? I remember I got starcraft running on my omnia i910 forever ago, and that phone was a piece compared to just about any android phone out right now...
I would love to see it ported to android, but I feel like the practicality of playing such games on a phone is kinda dumb to an extent....after all, there are reasons games like this were made for an actual PC...
But that's just my two cents... would it be cool, undoubtedly... anyways will check in on this from time to time.
Would be ultra cool. Would love to see some more PC/Linux supported games ported to Android!
So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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I love it! it works perfectly as a low power media center and the games I run on it work well. I'm just having a hard time making it detect my SD card but i'm almost there...
I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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The launcher is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to annoyances: a lot of things I do daily on other devices involve weird workarounds and jumping through "user-friendly" panels. I really don't have a patience with most customized skins, so it's really not worth my time until I can flash CM. As with all things, mileage varies, so take this for what it is.
I personally enjoy the Interface. Coming from an MK808 with a stock Android experience, screwing with the UI using an Airmouse or controller was a pain in the butt. I love the simplicity and being able to just pick what I want and go.
I could see if you are using it more as a media server. But just for playing games (what I purchased it for) the UI is awesome.
The Gamepad leaves a little to be desired for. Really, nothing beats a PS3 gamepad for retro gaming. The OUYA gamepad feels nice, but it feels like a 360 pad... with its iffy circle dpad. The controller responds very well but the dpad makes retro gaming a bit cumbersome. The PS3 is also lighter and just feels right. Fortunately the PS3 pad pairs effortlessly and has become my main go to for EMU's.
Overall I love it. Mine took a factory reset before it saw my USB HDD, but good to go. The Ouya Store is a little cluttered. They have Top Favorites like 5 times and each has duplicate games... so you keep seeing the same ones over and over. Right now, the store is barren, so finding something is easy if you search by categories. This WILL be a problem as it expands.
I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
There is a lack of online multiplayer apps. Local Multiplayer Emulators is mostly what I purchased the console for in the first place. And that it does almost flawlessly.
I absolutely LOVE my OUYA! I love the interface and even the controller, even with the less than perfect D-pad. I've had more fun with some of these games than I have on my 360 in a long time. And actually I've played more games for longer since I got my OUYA than all year on my PS3/360/PC (excluding MMO's)
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I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
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I think this is something they're working on. They actually added a "New Release" category yesterday that made me happy, although I'm not sure how they sort it because some of the new releases were not actually on there. Even then, they need less top 5 lists and more broad categories with SUB categories. I believe 1 level deep should solve a lot of the problems we're currently seeing.
Love my ouya, but have nothing to compare with, i am a pc user.
Bought it for the games and then discovered the emulators. Installed battle city and having the blast with my friend.
Also bought the hocky kickass game and got owned by my little bro :/
So ye, perfectly satisfied with myvpurchase.
And also a big thumb to all the devs, and moders to make it even awesomer
My history and experiences are a bit different but my reactions are similar to everyone else here.
I started messing around with "hacking" game consoles about 10 years ago with an Xbox 1. Pretty quickly became a serious XBMC user.
I actually was only initially interested in the Ouya as a way to get a tiny / silent dedicated XBMC box. The fact that it is a hacker-friendly box that runs Android and is sort of an indie game haven did not hurt at all.
I honestly didn't expect to use it for gaming at all, but I've been surprised to find that that's mostly what I use it for.
The whole "everything is free to try!" model changed the way I found and bought games. The fact that almost all the games are cheap as hell compared to "real" console games doesn't hurt either.
I have done several Kickstarter items in the past, and so I know that the Ouya team is smaller than they should be and has had to solve a lot of unexpected issues along the way, so I am not surprised that a bunch of unsolved issues remain. However, overall I am satisfied with all that it does. There are seriously a bunch of great Ouya games, like TowerFall, Bomb Squad, Hidden In Plain Sight, The Little Crane That Could, etc.
I have been a pretty busy guy in general lately, and so I honestly don't feel like I have the time to play some of these 80+ hour AAA titles that are around right now. In that respect the Ouya has been great. Every aspect of the commitment level from the user is significantly less than other consoles, and I like that.
As others have said, there are some things about the system that bug me, but overall, I can't be bothered with ROMs right now.
It does everything I want already, and the random cool crap you theoretically could maybe do with a ROM doesn't presently overrule my fear that I may brick my Ouya.
At this point I think my laziness also is a big thing. It works well enough as is, so I'm not sufficiently motivated to mess with it yet. Obviously, me browsing this forum means I'm thinking about it though
I am loving my ouya as well! And my roomate who has berated me about my purchase since january, calling ouya an obvious failure, conceded. After having it for 2 days, he stated he is going to pick one up for himself now that they are supposedly available retail. if you went into this thing with reasonable expectations, you will be very happy. if you heard "console" and thought "PS3.5" you are going to be disappointed, but whatever man, you were a fool so GFY.
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I love mine. It likes to fight, but I like to fight back. Getting it to function perfectly is a game itself. As far as games, I recommend You Don't Know Jack and Vendetta Online. Good games that work great; vendetta just isn't consistent with what the menus say controls are.
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I got it for retro gaming and sideload some better emulators and it works great. Can't wait for better roms tho
At this point I'm unimpressed. It feels like it needed another 6 months in development, especially the UI. The library is also very week. There are a few gems like towerfall, but the vast majority of games don't warrant more than 3 minutes of play.
I was underwhelmed at first but now I have the play store, access to my games, emulators, and another launcher running I love it.
I think I will have to purchase a usb hub and a mouse and keyboard before I am truely happy.
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I'm LOVING my Ouya!
Towerfall might be my favorite multiplayer game ever!
My OUYA is amazing. Rooted and CWM already. But still waiting for goog CM port on it)
I still feel burned over the recovery issue - they shouldn't have sold it as open the way they did if they weren't planning on actually living up to that claim....
But....
Overall I'm still extremely happy with mine. The original controllers I got were absolute trash, but they replaced them quickly when I contacted support (thankfully I got mine in late May before they ran out of replacement controllers) and the replacements are fine. The wireless has me wondering if they actually had anyone with any kind of RF experience involved in the design - wifi is horrible and the bluetooth isn't much better. Sitting just 10' from mine the controllers will freak out if I don't sit forward in my seat with a completely unobstructed path between them and the Ouya. The interface isn't great and the Discover section needs a TON of work....but that's software and I'm sure we'll see some major changes there sooner rather than later.
Due to the recovery issue I haven't done much hacking on mine other than root/busybox and a few things like Titanium. But that wasn't my main reason for wanting it - it was what put me over the edge since I figured it was a good price for a Tegra3 board to play with if Ouya tanked....but I was still hoping they'd pull it off and have some decent games. And while the game selection isn't anything to get excited about just yet...it's been getting better and better quicker and quicker and I've had no problem finding games I want to play on it. Heck I've actually bought more games on it than I did for my Wii (the last console I bought) which is mostly due to the fact that while I've bought more games for the Ouya than I did for the Wii I've spent less on games for the Ouya than I did on just one game for the Wii
The main reason I'm happy with it though is because I do believe in the dream and I do love Indie games. And even better having this thing sitting here has finally gotten me to get serious about sinking my teeth into Java and Android development. I cobbled together a few quick and dirty sample apps a few years ago before I even had an android device to run them on (ran them on the emulator and then my wife's phone since she got to upgrade a year before me) but haven't gone any further because while I may be able to sling some code I'm just not that good at making things look nice and my co-workers who are are apple guys who don't want to help me develop for Android. But they're also gamers and are interested in the Ouya so we're finally on the same page and working on some ideas. I was blown away by how easily I was able to get some simple game proof of concepts functional and so was my co-worker. It's been a dream of mine to make my own game for a console since I got my first Atari 2600. I looked into the Wii homebrew scene...but again none of my graphically gifted co-workers had a Wii and weren't interested in doing anything for it so I never got past some quick test code. To finally have a system I can make code for and a friend who's interested in joining forces to make something....it's a dream come true.
Now if I just had more time to play games on it and/or write more code for it
I love this machine! Much better when its Rooted/CWM, its great to have friends over and hookup ps3 controllers to play Smash Bros or play any EMU games, and super portable for travelling.
I'm not already hooked by my Ouya (well almost)
I think it's really a matter of youthness : I'm currently a little disapointed by the quality of the graphics on the games, and to be honest I'm not that fan of graphics
But I can't help to notice the graphics gap between Android mobile games and Ouya games whereas our little square friend pack a very capable GPU (Tegra 3)
I also miss mass player online games which is for me a nice argument for Ouya (I do have friends !)
Again I think the future will be beautifull since Ouya games currently available are essentially from indie enthousiastics who don't have necessary big fund
Finally, I don't regret my Ouya AT ALL, I'm really happy to be a baker
i find it a bit odd how people often emphasize that they use it mainly for emulating the classic consoles.
people could have saved themselves a great bit of money by just buying some no-brand Android device, and even gotten a device that was pre rooted, had official Play store, hardware recovery option 5 full size USB plugs, bluetooth and even SD slot. All for something like half the prize of the OUYA.
At this point i must say i am not to crazy about it. i feel that OUYA have really made an effort in locking down the console rather than living up to their promise of openness. Everything from the OUYA launcher being a walled garden, to no direct access to your own file system, no root access / superuser priviledges, no hardware option for recovery state and no play store access.
i really like the look and also the controller. But i also got this for a silent XBMC dedicated device. i will however wait for a linux based build before that dream come through. i was hoping that i could play and hack around with until then. But without a hardware recovery option, i will just wait for a good Linux based XBMC port instead.
It hit me yesterday, that On Live would be awesome on our Shields for people who don't have computers meeting the requirements for streaming games to their Shield.
So I just tried it, and it works pretty well but you need a fast wifi connection. I only tried a trial of Sonic Adventure DX, which not only was nostalgic but lagged a bit because my wifi stinks. I encourage you guys to give it a shot!
The controls worked without any form of mapping needed which is really nice.
its to bad onlive is dying so terribly lol
I just tried it also, Saints Row III works great! I used my Tmobile LTE hotspot, and surprisingly there is not lag at all. My main reasoning for purchasing the Shield was for Onlive/PSX Emulators..so far, so good!
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I just tried it also, Saints Row III works great! I used my Tmobile LTE hotspot, and surprisingly there is not lag at all. My main reasoning for purchasing the Shield was for Onlive/PSX Emulators..so far, so good!
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I agree onlive is great with the shield.... the shield is awesome in general.... but I cant wait until the Nvidia Grid comes.... they claim to have mastered and conquered all issues that have plagued cloud gaming.... if this is true, this will another game changer for nvidia with the addition of the shield itself.