I am really thinking about getting the HTC HD2.
I have just seen some videos of fully running android 2.2 on the HD2 just wondering if this was possible and if so how easy is it.
I was also wondering the gaming capabilities.
Because i know that android, webos and iphones can play gameloft games like NOVA, Avatar, sims 3 so can the HD2?
Thanks!!!!
PS: The thought of having windows phone 6.5 (possible chance of windows phone 7) as well as android 2.2 on one phone blows my mind away, it really does!!!
Evan
It truely is an awesome phone... however, the andriod port is still very much a work in progress and difficult for the average user to set up. MS and HTC has clearly stated that the HD2 will not recieve a WP7 upgrade, so it would also have to be a user port.
Considering that it is unlikely a port of either andriod or WP7 will ever reach the functionality and stability of a device that ships with the OS, you should not get this phone based only on the possibilty of running multiple OS. If, on the other hand, you are very comfortable with winmo 6.5 then yes, the HD2 is a wonderful device.
As for gaming, I don't have any experience with gameloft games (since I don't like to pay for stuff) but there are TONS of great games that work perfectly well. With Morphgear and FPSEce, you have hundereds of classic games at your disposal (assuming you know where to get the ROMs)
some of the videos show the android 2.2 (Froyo) running really smoothly and loads of the functions working, including the app store which surely means you could get some of the android apps as well which would be cool.
I don't mind how well it works and if some bits don't work, just the fact that i could have both operating systems would be cool.
I also know about the windows phone 7 announcments but the chance of someone building a ROM for it are quite likely.
With the games i found on the Nokia n900 it was able to play a n64 emulator, can the HD2, so it can play Ocarina of Time etc. would be amazing on the HD2 and if the n900 can do it the HD2 definatley can.
But yer i have seen some quite nice games on windows phones ( and android and seeing as the chances are that you might be able to acess both app stores...)
I'm not aware of any N64 emulator in development for the HD2. Morphgear can do up to Snes and FPSEce does PSX very well. The Win95 emulator runs good for me as well so I can play a few classic PC games as well.
i personally think if this phone had a n64 emulator it would be one of the most amazing phones, the large range of games on the n64 is amazing if u look at the n900 it runs them quite slow but on the htc it would be super duper
am i allowed to put video links on this forum so i can show the video i found on android 2.2 running well on the HD2?
I'm sure I've seen it. This one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f891vm6vWHM
yes thats the one.
It just looks so nice and is so smooth and fast.
It just looks amazing!!!
But yer it does indeed look like a very nice device
does the psx, gba etc. emulators run at full speed (or faster than other devices) because i have seen some on other OS that go really slowly
I get a pretty steady 60fps when playing playstation games and I've never experienced the slightest slowdown in Morphgear either. Occasionally the Psx will drop a bit during some highly demanding situations but the worst I've gotten is a few seconds of about 30fps before it's back to normal. The games I've tested are Battle Arena, Coolboarders 2, MLB 2005, FF7, Driver 2. All work really nice.
Hi Just to add a bit of input here...
Yeah the HD2 is awesome.
About Android - the current Desire V5 port with latest zImage is 'almost' perfect.
Its as smooth and fast as a HTC Desire (compared side by side with a colleagues Desire).
Pretty much everything is working and the stability issues are almost fully gone (i'v had it running all day with no freezes or crashes).
I can download items from the market and they work perfectly - games included so yeah Android on the HD2 is really amazing.
Also don't be put off installing Android it's nowhere near as complicated as the previous poster makes out - there are a lot of useful guides in the Android threads - as long as you know how to drag and drop files your good to go. There's even a dual boot app that aloows you to choose which OS you boot into at start up.
Cheers
Paul
fpsece runs at full speed on HD2 - there's loads of videos on youtube if you want to check it out. This alone was one of the biggest reasons I got the H2
Personally I'm really happy with my HD2 because I have got two operating systems on one device...brilliant.
with Android..All the apps/games i've downloaded from the marketplace have worked so far.
At the moment I still use winmo for day to day use, but I boot android up when I want to view any flash website (android's got flash 10.1, winmo's not) or use any of the apps that are just on android like.. footmob or solo
If I broke my HD2 today, i'd still go out and buy another one instead of anything else that's available
Dual Booting sounds so awesome.
I really want to try thi out!
are there any other OS that can be used, cause that would be cool
e.g. WebOs, Maemo 5 etc.
Well this thread makes things so normal.
Comon both mentioned thing are so awesome. Playstation games on mobile phone? It wont get more awesome than this. Comon people it also have multitouch, G-sensor and more stuff (like vibration feedback).
Also the latest ANDROID runs so great. The speed is amazing. The stability is just great and almost everything works.
Comon guys be more enthusiam about it (oO,)
i just thought about dual booting and the amazing possibilities of this.
I know some people may have put some posts and showed there intrest in thise but what if you could dual boot more than 2 operating systems!
What if on one device you could have
1. Windows
2. Android
3. Maemo
4. Web OS
This could make one Legendary device and surely is possible on the HD2 if this happened or even if 3 os were managed it would be orgasmic.
OMG i would love it.
Just the possibilities AHHHH!
I am so excited!!!
does anyone know if that is possible??????
please answer because i am really excites
it can run win 95 remember...... that counts as an os right?
At the moment the only real "dual boot" is Linux/Andriod and WM. You can run Windows 95 on top of WinMo, but techically you're not booting into it, just emulating it. I've read Win 98 also works but it's very slow (havn't tried '98 personally). Andriod is comming along really well. I'm running Desire V5 at the moment, but contrary to what a previous poster mentioned, I experience quite a bit of lag/freezing (depending on what I'm doing). It may be that I need to flash a different ROM I'm sure the experience varies from user to user, but it's far from perfect for me atm. Don't get me wrong, much of it works very well and avioding the parts that are not quite complete helps. But when using Android on my wife's Evo4g and on my HD2 side by side, the difference is noticable (as would be expected). It's also not quite as simple as "drag & drop & run". It's not rocket science either but you should familarize yourself with flashing HSPL and Radio Roms as this may be necessary to get everything working properly.
I'm not aware of any port of WebOS or Maemo but since they run off the linux kernel it should be possible. I'm not sure if there would be enough demand however, to make it worth the time/effort requried to get it working.
i would pay for both of those ports i really would
you never know...
have you decided on the HD2 for certain then?
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an iPod Touch/iPhone can play 3d games, utilise the g-sensor and run smoothly - for example racing games. Tilt the iPhone, the car turns.
Why can't our phones run these sort of games? Or is it just the case they haven't yet been produced?
From what I'm aware a Diamond is more powerful than an iPhone therefore these games "shouldn't" be a problem?
Shoot me down in flames if I'm wrong, just kinda thought there should be iPhone-esque software for these phones now.
I am right with you, i keep thinking the same thing.
Because Apple has crazy fanboys and they provided a simple infrastructure to facilitate payment and downloading (appstore). They also gimped the iphone out of the box so as to pretty much require people to sign up for the appstore if they actually want to use it, ensuring that they have the user base they need for it.
Now the iphone has several million users - how many Diamonds do you think are sold? Windows mobile itself is bigger, but the capabilities of the phones running it vary too much that profiting from making advanced games is as feasible.
I have wondered about this as well. I think the problem is 3 fold
Firstly, the Diamond has 3d and graphics performance issues for sure. Sometimes my Diamond will slow down terribly when running some simple animations. I have read that HTC are notorious for providing poor graphics drivers and this could be part of the reason.
Secondly, I actually dont think Windows Mobile is capable of doing what the iPhone UI is capable of in terms of interactive gaming.
Thirdly, Apple provide your at home developers a great business model to go out and develop great games and apps for the phone. Plus with the Appstore they know that if they develop something good, people will see it - there is only one place to get apps from - and the developer will make money.
For me, the iPhone is not the right phone, but I would love Windows Mobile and HTC to be able to do what the iPhone and Apple can do.
The iPhone has v-sync, so the 3d graphics are drawn smoothly with no tearing and sadly win mo just does not. At least that is what my mate said who is a games developer. The power is there but you just can't get it to the wheels! This just makes it fundamentally unappealing to a lot of developers.
yeah totally agree, i love the diamond, but i've been using windows mobile for years now, and each new model HAS generally got better and better. however the iPhone is just something else.. for people who aren't nerds and into mucking around iwth their phone etc, i could never recommend a windows mobile over an iPhone. its just so much more polished compared to the diamond.
i'm an AMD fan too, godamnit why do i always have to back the underdog
Yes, even though i have a diamond and have had great fun tweaking it, i still can't help but envy the iPhone users for their graphically superior games and video playback prowess .
Another explanation would be that iPhone games are developed solely for... u guessed it, iPhones! ...whereas WinMo games have to be developed to run across many different devices, with (or lack of) accelerometers, touch screens etc. Therefore, to achieve this interoperability / compatibility across the many different devices, compromises have to be made.
That said, there are still gd games for our beloved devices, my favourite being PDAMill, whom develop aesthetically pleasing games with intuitive controls, and they're cheap too.
Nudge.
So all in all, will it become possible? And what's vsync? Portable to diamonds?
I think V sync is something to do with the way images are drawn to the screen, and it is just not implemented in win mo, I don't know if it could be written into the drivers or of it is a hardware thing, but then I don't actually have a clue what I'm talking about! Can anyone confirm this?
vsync actually makes bad performance even worse since it forces the back buffer to wait until right after a screen refresh before it copies its data to the frame buffer.
it's great if the device is capable of rendering an FPS that is higher than the refresh rate, but in the diamond case it's just another fps thief
if you want games like iphone get an ipod touch. The diamond never advertised gaming as a capability. Think of it this way: The iphone is like a mac with mediocre hardware but also comes with a mid range video card. The diamond/touch pro are like PC's with raging motherboard/cpu/ram combo, but bottom entry level video card. You can get a lot done with the PC, but the fun factor lies in the mac.
Go buy virtual pool mobile, it runs great and it's very fun. Its the best pool video game ive ever seen actually.
Simple reason
The reason to me is simple: Apple cares about user experience. Just look at win mobile contacts, or explorer. Do you think this software is made for 2008-2009 hardware? Now look at iphone's ones... Seriously, Microsoft has the power to make good things for mobile users, but they released win mo 6.1 one year ago, which is mainly the same OS that existed in 2003.
Silly we when we buy pocketpc running on windows mobile.
Just to revive a dead thread for quite a good reason..
I've seen a few videos on Youtube and also a few write ups on the wonderful Tinterweb in relation to Windows Mobile devices running and successfully playing iPhone games through emulation.
Is this just simple hear-say or fake ? I've been thinking for a long time about focusing simply on making the graphical capabilities of the diamond better through customising the graphics drivers. That's the main flaw for me.
According to a few posts the graphics card has 64MB dedicated memory.. is this right?
If so, these things SHOULD be capable of running bloody good games but the drivers are just nowhere near good enough. I did hear about changing to ATI drivers - is this right? If so, where can I find the info on this cause I would like to maybe bash at hybrid-combining the drivers and modifying them a bit as to allow maybe a bit more fluid graphics. If you check one of my other posts on the Diamond, I've been complaining about split-graphics. It's really getting on my nerves as I'd rather just see a full picture move around my screen fluidly. None of this "split it up" rubbish.
Cheers
Driver dev
This seems to be a good thread with most/all of the available drivers posted.
well I have been enjoying copy + paste and fully working GPS on my Diamond ever since
now why hasn't Apple offered this so far?
I guess each company chooses their own battles
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well I have been enjoying copy + paste and fully working GPS on my Diamond ever since
now why hasn't Apple offered this so far?
I guess each company chooses their own battles
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Hrrm.. In the new 3.0 SDK update for iPhone 3G and iPod Touch which will be released soon there is copy and paste + redo.. in a very stylish and functional way.
And there will be mms + almost every single function that the iPhone was lacking before + some more.. many, many new stuff for improved gaming, new OS improvements etc.
I watched the presentation on the apple website..
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Hrrm.. In the new 3.0 SDK update for iPhone 3G and iPod Touch which will be released soon there is copy and paste + redo.. in a very stylish and functional way.
And there will be mms + almost every single function that the iPhone was lacking before + some more.. many, many new stuff for improved gaming, new OS improvements etc.
I watched the presentation on the apple website..
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Stuff that should have been released last year. The only reason Apple is releasing it when they are is because people's 2 year contracts are starting to expire, and Apple wants to try and persuade them from leaving by finally giving them features they've been demanding from day 1.
Honestly, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I knew Apple would do that.
Heres my question:
Smart phones and windows mobile operating system have been around for something like, oh, 15 years now. Why is it some EMO company like Apple releases a phone (badly I might add) and it becomes THE Benchmark for mobile devices? Its just purely unbelievable to me that so many people obsess over "well the iphone can do this, and it can do that.. I want my ______ to do what the iphone does..." If you like the turd and all its glory so much, why don't you just buy one and get it over with??
the iphone is so easy to use, thats why so many people bought one. when everyone has something, it becomes the norm to judge other things by. think of the model t from ford
Model T?
Confused.com. Is that the foreign (for me) Focus? lol
Anyways, I've looked about and the ATI drivers have given me the power boost I'm happy with. However - My images are still split on the screen.
Still trying to get this fixed...
I had a chance to download Guitar Hero 5 for the iPhone 3GS today.
After checking out this game (and obviously a host of others), why in the world are games so much more cleaning, crisper and less drag then on the HD2? The HD2 has the bigger, faster hardware with a higher end screen.
CAn you someone shed some light on why the games are just horrible on the HD2 (al la PS1/NES/SNES graphics) whereas the iPhone with its less then higher hardware performs so much smoother and games look a lot better?
I read somewhere that winmo 6.5 is limited to output display which may very well have everything to do with the weak graphics. I don't know
Thoughts appreciated
lazy developers
Well, there's the obvious reason why it's better. The touch screen on the HD2 sucks, this is vital part of the gaming experience.
the touch screen has nothing to do with the quality of the graphics, and as for using it once you get the hang of your screen its just as good as any other, practice!
im gonna agree with above post, the developers probably did a piss poor job just to get it out of the door, if its not optimized for the hardware we have then its not going to work, an you can bet it will be optimized for the iphone with all its publicity.
think of it like an old computer game thats not using SSE or HT&L, gonna be a huge drag on performance but it will work
Windows Mobile devices have all different hardware. Some prefer snapdragon, while other uses another arm chip. Then you have different graphics chips. One more powerfull the the other. In the end, it would be impossible to optimize games to run on every winmo device. iPhone for example, doesn;t have these obstacles. So it's pretty fair to say that it is because of the many, many differnt winmo devices with all different hardware.
Try Rockband instead it is far superior!!! UI is great, game runs fluid, controls are awesome, game has MUCH more content...
Only fail: you need internetconnection to play it.
Greets
you are right.. games on winmo SUCKS.. i have iphone 3g also. Hd2 is better than iphone in all other aspects than GAMES.. Playing Games on Iphone is a Fun.. you can show off the games.. graphics, sound everything is good.
But on HD2 or any other winmo .. Games quality is Like DOS PROMPT GAME.. Sucks in graphics .. even Games available with HD version like assassin creeds, Need for speed, Ferrari gt.. All comes with Stupid HD graphics..
only Bubble breaker n solitaire got good quality in graphics lolz
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Windows Mobile devices have all different hardware. Some prefer snapdragon, while other uses another arm chip. Then you have different graphics chips. One more powerfull the the other. In the end, it would be impossible to optimize games to run on every winmo device. iPhone for example, doesn;t have these obstacles. So it's pretty fair to say that it is because of the many, many differnt winmo devices with all different hardware.
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Not that I have used or have ever owned an iPhone, but maybe, just maybe this is one of the advantages of the tied down system the iPhone employs. This is the the same tied down system that most on this forum moan on and on about.
The majority of iPhone users want games...... not so many wm users give a toss about games....
easier to develop for iPhone etc etc..... its probably all got something to with why moss only grows on the south side of a tree trunk and cows have seven stomachs.......
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The majority of iPhone users want games...... not so many wm users give a toss about games....
easier to develop for iPhone etc etc..... its probably all got something to with why moss only grows on the south side of a tree trunk and cows have seven stomachs.......
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HD2 can have amazing game graphics even better then the iPhone, just follow the following simple steps!
1.Install an Android ROM
2.Run the Android on HD2
3.Now Play HD games
you can run android on the hd2???
well you learn something new every day
xda2_haseeb said:
HD2 can have amazing game graphics even better then the iPhone, just follow the following simple steps!
1.Install an Android ROM
2.Run the Android on HD2
3.Now Play HD games
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Yeah - I'm playing games now like I was a kid again! Having used WM for years, I can't believe the difference in the quality of the games and apps in general.
The HD2 has the power to deliver, it's just that the OS can't. Which is now why I'm running Android 90% of the time.
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Yeah - I'm playing games now like I was a kid again! Having used WM for years, I can't believe the difference in the quality of the games and apps in general.
The HD2 has the power to deliver, it's just that the OS can't. Which is now why I'm running Android 90% of the time.
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Would you be so kind as to recommend a good build???
Im using ENergy ROM - Reference
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Would you be so kind as to recommend a good build???
Im using ENergy ROM - Reference
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For Android, I'm running "Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._2.3_Clean", which is now at 2.4 (which I haven't tried yet) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
For WM, I'm running this one http://hotfile.com/dl/83789233/d43c2d7/Energy.Leo.23148.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Nov.19.7z.html
hey, saw your thread, and I was just wondering about how many people do you guys think abandoned HD2 for WINMO without knowing the fact that HD2 has been running ANdroid for 6 months now... And today it is perfect. Install latest radio, VBN CLEAN ROM and Mdeejay 2.3 sense clean and I get 40HRS BAttery life.
hrm, Thats Windows Mobile my friend.
You want a real OS? go to the Android section on this forum and get any of the vast amazing Android Roms available.
Right now, builds are 99% Perfect.
Using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491 atm, Battery last way longer than it did in WM, phone is WAY faster and the amount of apps you can get... pffft.
Do you want to see all the Androids Runs available?
Check this out: http://android.hd2roms.com/ Sort em by Updated.
I must say I was a big-time Windows Mobile fan, but after trying out Android and all it offers, I'm not coming back to WM ever again.
GL.
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you can run android on the hd2???
well you learn something new every day
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Yeah it does!! Like it was built for it!
Towserspvm2000 said:
Yeah - I'm playing games now like I was a kid again! Having used WM for years, I can't believe the difference in the quality of the games and apps in general.
The HD2 has the power to deliver, it's just that the OS can't. Which is now why I'm running Android 90% of the time.
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I dont think its the WM that lacks but i think its the WM Game Developers that lack, if you player NFS Shift, Real Soccer 2010 HF on your WM HD2 you would know that its pretty much HD like Sony PSP or PC so Windows Mobile was always capable of that but our developers are the ones which lack the capability
its probably all got something to with why moss only grows on the south side of a tree trunk
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*COUGH*... The north side...
thats not always the case, and also try the games on android on the hd2 i think its better than iphone
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*COUGH*... The north side...
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I knew that lol.... just testing you all........
Glad to see somebodys paying attention
I am considering picking up and HD2 and loading it with the latest Desire HD Rom.
Before I fork out, can anyone who has seen both running side by side explain any disadvantages of doing so?
I'd like to hear how the performance is, as the DHD is blisteringly fast and if the HD2 seriously lags with the DHD rom I may well reconsider. Obviously the camera is a selling point of the DHD but when we are looking at nearly £300 difference I can live with the reduced megapixel count!
Seriously tempted to get the DHD and dual boot it with Android and Winmo 6.5 but would love to hear from you guys first about any down sides.
People who have done this already, are you pleased with the result or hankering for the DHD?
Thanks.
maybe the buttons? I hear many HD2 users complaining about them. But I must say I never have troubles with my device, I tested out some other HTC android devices and my HD2 is faster, there are roms here that get 3000 + quadrant score, and the DHD doesn't even get close to this.. But I think, the biggest problem with the HD2 is not always having cell reception. 9% of the time - 30% depending upon the area you live in ofcourse so that doesn't affect but also radio and that does affect so it takes quite a while before you found the best radio for your device, also because the radio affects your battery life. So you need to figure out a radio wich gives you optimal reception and also optimal battery life. I think a radio in the 2.10.50.X class is the best for me, but other users prefer other radio's. I use android every day so I must say, there is absolutely no lag on the HD2 but there is on other devices that run android only. THE PLUS: you can use TOMTOM, play PSX Games with PS3 controller, ... all windows things, yes you can hehe. The minus: booting android takes up to 3 minutes, okay it's not a really big deal but the DHD boots in 10 secs that's really amazing. what is cool is that our builds can be huge because we don't need an internal storage, android runs from SD, and faster than winmo even! so if you use a HIGHSPEED SD (HC), then you will have a nice android device. People are working on a 720P camcorder atm. I don't know I would doubt too! I like having winmo..
The difference is that HD2 has dozen of ROM both for Android and WM you can choose from,this in itself is a big advantage and freedom alike,I myself try an Android build at least a day!,they are fast and furious!,but keep going back to WM,nostalgia ,may be,however my son,who also has an HD2 he has become an Android fan,after he wears out this phone will most probably stick to another HD2.
Sorry if a bit off topic.I say get an HD2 this is a nice device.
Thanks for your input guyts, very helpful!
Can I just ask about the multitouch and the ability to play divx / avi videos using an application such as rockplayer / vplayer? Is this ipossible and as smooth as the native Android devices?
Multitouch I think is important for the on screen keyboard. Is this as good as the native android devices also?
I'm almost sold I think from your comments so far!
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Thanks for your input guyts, very helpful!
Can I just ask about the multitouch and the ability to play divx / avi videos using an application such as rockplayer / vplayer? Is this ipossible and as smooth as the native Android devices?
Multitouch I think is important for the on screen keyboard. Is this as good as the native android devices also?
I'm almost sold I think from your comments so far!
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The hd2 only has 2 point multitouch, and it has issues where it will register 2 touches as being on the same axis if they are close to being on same axis. can mess you up when playing games with onscreen controllers. Newer android devices have 4 point multitouch.
I always say if you plan on just running android, get an android phone. When people say the hd2 runs android better than native android phones, they are usually comparing the tweaked, modified hd2 to a stock android phone. If you put in the time tweaking, rooting, and modifying the native android phone properly, it will run android much better than the hd2 can usually. And android phones also have custom roms with different builds you can try out also. A bunch of android phones can now dual-boot into 2 different android builds, running one off sd card, also.
Now, if you want to have winmo also on your phone, you can't beat the HD2. It does run android great for a port... definitely the best android port on a winmo phone... but you can definitely get native android phones with similar specs to run android much better if you take the time to learn to modify and tweak it like you would do with the HD2.
Despite being a big MS fan, I have not gone back to WM since getting Android working smoothly. It runs perfectly for Divx videos on VPlayer (my personal fave)(and using CifManager I even stream movies from my WLAN server when at home!), and I use PSX4Droid with absolutely no lag issues, or multi-touch issues. My one piece of advice if you go down this route is to get the extended battery, so that you get a comfortable 2-day battery life.
Day-to-day, no issues at all, although you do need some trial and error for ROMs/Radio/Kernal.
If my HD2 died tomorrow, I'd get another HD2 for Android full-time. If money was no issue, I'd get the Desire HD, but honestly I do not see any reason against the HD2.
There are some phones that set the trend for XDA. It is the most popular for the time being and most devs own that phone. It might not be the best hardware for its time but since almost all devs and cookers develop for it, it is best to stick to it. I call this XDA phone. Currently, imho, that phone is HD2. This is why HD2 gets more android builds than many native android phones. My next phone will also be an XDA phone
I know there are reviews etc. online, but they aren't by hd2 owners
So I would be interested in knowing the thoughts of fellow hd2 owners who have been rolling with Android.
How does WP7 compare ? Are you ready to switch your daily OS to it ?
I have had 2 iPhone and HTC legend and the hd2 is mental. The huge community and ROM dev is awesome.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
as sooon as i realized i could install wp7 i tried it.
smootest OS i ever tried, at the moment, although, i prefer Android (I have both)
we'll see..
I was using Android from day 1 he was ported on to HD2 ( best phone in the world , no doubt ).
As soon as i read about porting WP7 i knew i will have to install it .. And i did.. And i like it ..
Like devilman said, smoothest OS ive ever put my hands on.. Some things are missing.. Some things are diffrent.. It just takes time for me ( or any one ) to get used to this type of OS.. Im keeping it definitely.
Laynee
Cool, thanks for the replies.
Gaming looks great, and I am a fan of the tiled UI. Also Zune looks good.
I'll give it a go.
I have an iPhone 4 as my daily use phone and used my hd2 to tinker with all the android builds. After having used Windows Phone 7, I am seriously considering selling my iPhone and using this as my daily phone. For me, it really is that good.
I didn't think I would like wp7 that much considering how locked down it is and it's not very customizable... but after a couple days playing with it, it has really grown on me. Luckily I have the HD2 so I can have wp7 and android, because I'm pretty torn between the 2 as being my main os. I'm keeping both on my HD2 for sure... and hopefully cotulla will release the sd bootable version of wm6.5 for the few apps that I like to use like fpsece and gps apps. WP7 on nand and wm6.5 and android on sd will be perfect for me.
After starting with iPhone and moving to Android, I don't like the iPhone like locked down nature of the OS. I do love WP7's graphical interface, marketplace and music player much better than iPhone or Android. I also like the Zune/Xbox Live connectivity.
Android has a poor music player and a desktop like interface compared to WP7, although I do like the widgets. Also it suffers from fragmentation and inability of many owners to officially upgrade their OSes. However Android is also much more open and has many more apps. Iphone has a good music player but their layout gets boring after a while even with the jailbreak. One positive with the iPhone is that they have the most apps and most app compatibility between their phones (4, 3GS, iPod Touch, etc.)
Hopefully now that we have the ability to change the registry and navigate through the folders, Microsoft will not lock down their phones again when they make their updates. WP7 has the potential to be the best of the three if they play their cards right.
I wrote a little review, kepple.tumblr.com
Ive had wp7 since they released it, in fact, it made me replace my hd2 with a newer one because the old one had a couple knicks..couldnt have a smooth os and a phone with scratches love that windows finally did to the zune what apple did with ipod
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WP7 is indeed the smoothest OS I've seen on my phone. I used WP7 for around 1 day then went back to Android, because of:
- Browser is still slower then Android
- No Flash
- No full facebook integration(chat?, direct link to pictures? messaging?)
- No Spotify
- No Whatsapp
- Freaking high app prices
For the rest I really liked it
I'm using daily on my HD2, i love it.
UI is quite different to others I have used, I really like the live tiles, the screen is very responsive compared to Android, the email client is SUPERB, very very business friendly, only downside for me so far, is the lack of customisation options compared to Android and the market could do with a few more free apps. I am dual booting WP7 and Android, so I switch to Android for the apps that I use that are missing from WP7 namely Copilot and Audiogalaxy.
At this point in time, only a very sad person would protest against the HD2 and WP7. Really amazing OS on a really amazing phone. WP7 for a whole week now. The feeling is undeniable !!
Hello
My dilemma is the following
I currently have Android via Nand and its setup as I like it, but more importantly its setup how my little one likes it. Its got loads of games on it that she plays and was one of the main reasons for switching to Android.
Now I have got a Windows license key and am all ready to go to WP7 but wonder if its the right move.
With current troubles with WP7 I'm reading and the need for kids games should I stay on Android or move to WP7?
Don't really want to go dual boot.
Games on WP7 are expensive. Something to keep in mind.
Thanks for taking to the time to do poll and reply.
Stopped me from put wp7 on, will wait and see what people think tomorrow.
Ian
That and there really aren't too many wp7 games. The android market has been around longer.
Swyped from my Evo on steroids.
Why don't you want to dual boot? Then you can try out wp7 and still have android on your phone. I'm dual-booting and it works great... both OS's are smooth and fast. Getting decent battery life with wp7 and great battery life with android (3-6ma on standby... sometimes as low as 2ma). That's what makes the HD2 special.... you can boot multiple OS's on it.
You have some great points, perhaps I should rethink.
Does anyone else have experience of dual booting both.
If you want games than WP7 is your choice for sure. The selection may be not that great in numbers and there is no Angry Birds yet, but the quality is overwhelming. I'm playing The Harvest for 3 days now and still can't believe this is a mobile game
I took WP7 for a spin for 4 days and I absolutely loved it. Smooth as silk after the initial install and activation. Had a few minor problems like the phone locking after a sync with Zune but this was known and I belifve that there is a fix available.
So, that was really the good side. My take on it is that there are relatively few (few in comparison to other OS) apps. My biggest concern was tethering while being away on a business trip but I could not find a way to do it.
So although I went back to Android, all in all I think WP7 is great. It just needs time to mature in terms of the home brew offerings and Marketplace apps.
Good luck.
I absolutely loved Android, but after using wp7 since it was out I can't use Android again, I will switch back but then flash wp7 before the day was over. Wp7 is great for its silky smooth UI and speed, GPS works instantly...and it looked funny running Android with a windows start button lol joke.
Until I use Windows 7, Android was very fast and preferred OS for me.I like the speed and quality of WP7. But Its too early to choose because lack of application's availablityin WP7.Android has thosands of apps meanwhil WP7 has not many apps.I will decide to use which OS in 6-9 months.until then I will use dual boot(WP7 and Android)WE HD2 OWNERS HAVE ALWAYS 2 OS ON THE PHONE THAT IS WHY HTC CALLED THIS HANDSET HD------- 2(2 OS)that is the speciality of HTC HD2
I have wp7 & android. I find myself using wp7 80% of the time, because of the snappiness. I switch to android only when I need to take a picture or use apps that wp7 doesn't have.
I tried several Android roms both sd and NAND even a few ram versions however once I used the win7 I loved it. True there's not as many apps and games but how many do you actually use? I lost pandora but gained Netflix and found alternatives to pandora. The ui is awesom on win7 ,smooth ,nice hd resolution ,great FB and gps I'm in with the win7 now just sitting back and waiting on updates.
If WP7 could give you even the slightest bit of Multi Tasking, perhaps allow three apps to be held in ram
If the camera worked OK under low light flash conditions
Gsensor needs fixing as its 10 degrees out when playing games like Need for speed
And there needs to be a few more very important apps available.
All of these will be sorted via XDA or Microsoft, fingers crossed for the first point.
OK Android may be slower and feel a bit old fashioned and clunky, but its app market is brimming like the Apple one, multitasking seems to work better, although never as good as WM6.5
Any issues with cameras for me totally destroy the whole build, this is why I waited to go over to Android until they eventually sorted the camera issues, with WP7 the camera is annoying as its brilliant ok slightly greenish in daylight but use a flash and the thing cant focus and totally green blurs the whole image.
I could even just about cope with out multitasking, shame as you cant even have resco radio running while you do other things.
Please get these things sorted because WP7 blows all the other UI's out the water with:
GPS fix instant and accurate
Keyboard wonderful
UI fast, fun and interesting
Games are unbelievable
Calendar is quick and simple to use
Office, even better than WM version
Sound quality is outstanding
Don't mention dual booting to me, can you imaging your in a meeting, my choice of UI would be WP7 for its quick calendar and super fast and brilliant office application, then comes the point for a quick snap of what we are discussing, before the fast passed meeting fly's onwards, "errrr hold on everyone while I boot up Android so I can take an indoor picture of this product"...
LOL ... 'retard' moment
THUDUK said:
Don't mention dual booting to me, can you imaging your in a meeting, my choice of UI would be WP7 for its quick calendar and super fast and brilliant office application, then comes the point for a quick snap of what we are discussing, before the fast passed meeting fly's onwards, "errrr hold on everyone while I boot up Android so I can take an indoor picture of this product"...
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psyCORe said:
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Funnily enough this actually happened to me the other day, bloomin thing just wouldn't focus or take a decent picture...thus why I am back with Android for now