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The GPS function was disabled in Trinity and may be it will got a chance to re-enable it. But how about the USB Host function? Is there any way to enable it?
u have to buy an htc adaptor
I don't believe it, an adaptor?
I think it will be activated with a rom-update
Energie: source for that comment..?
I too think a rom-update is the thing...
Is their any word about the USB-Host in the new update?
What do you mean by "USB Host" ? I mean, that is hardware related thing so if you want to connect eg. flash disk to Trinity you must have some kind of adapter to do that, am I wrong?
banesi said:
What do you mean by "USB Host" ? I mean, that is hardware related thing so if you want to connect eg. flash disk to Trinity you must have some kind of adapter to do that, am I wrong?
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Yeah i think you're wrong.
It was said it was hardware implemented already (just like the GPS) but it just had to be activated with the new rom (just like the GPS)...
Any News anyone?
if we use this device http://cgi.ebay.de/USB-2-0-OTG-On-T...160683QQihZ016QQcategoryZ131881QQcmdZViewItem
does that mean, i can connect my trinity directly to a mobile USB HDD and access say 250 GB of music or pictures or movies?
Guys, STOP. There shouldn't be any USB host in Trinity, because if it has one, where would you find an idiot to buy any other PDA phone??????? That would kill the market. Even without USB host it's one of the best machines around. LOOX T830 was the only machine to have GPS and 3G, but it's a monster...
Trinity is the only PDA to ombine Wi-Fi, BT, 3G (inc. HSDPA), and GPS. Asking for USB host would be to much I'm afraid...
is this something you think or do you have proof?
Cuz this page says the trinity does have USB-OTG...
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
Look at the second page, last part....
Well actually I want USB-Host (didnt know Trinity had the ability until today), Fm Radio (still not sure if there is a build in FM Radio Chip but Chinese site states it), and I want Airbag, ABS, DVD reader/writer (double sided ... no, better Blue Ray Disc), a Coffee machine, two bathrooms and an pop out 23 inch screen for TV...
It is a great device.
Well dudes, why do you keep on whining? The topic starter asks a serious question. You all keep posting crap. Please quit it, we all want answers.
I only know that the chip does support USB-OTG, but if it's hardware implemented? We don't know at the moment. But if it is, it's up to HTC to enable it.
Well, can someone explain to me what is USB Host and what good is it for?
banesi said:
Well, can someone explain to me what is USB Host and what good is it for?
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u can use www.google.com & u can found it
What a smart guy, instead of posting stupid, useless reply maybe you can try again and find some info back in the dark corners of your brain?
banesi said:
Well, can someone explain to me what is USB Host and what good is it for?
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http://sharp-developer.net/Fun/img/I-will-use-Google-before-asking-dumb-questions.gif
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What a smart guy, instead of posting stupid, useless reply maybe you can try again and find some info back in the dark corners of your brain?
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Well actually it is a good idea to use information sources by yourself first. By the way: Could you give me an overview of the history of Belgrade?
saminegm said:
Well actually it is a good idea to use information sources by yourself first. By the way: Could you give me an overview of the history of Belgrade?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade
I do not see any mention of the HTC Trinity or USB Host.. but that could change
Man, that's exactly what I want to see with this question, many of you don't know either what USB host is and what is it for?! You keep posting things about hidden features in Trinity and moaning about it everyday but actually don't know what good it will get you, very strange.
So, smart guys, what will you do with your "USB Host" enabled Trinity ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the Trinity can act as a Host, you could connect an external HDD to it and transfer files. Or you could connect a memory card reader to empty your camera's card on the move.
Anybody know if there is a cable that can give you video-out for the Tilt?
I want to be able to plug it into my 7" screen in my truck and watch videos.
Is that even possible?
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Anybody know if there is a cable that can give you video-out for the Tilt?
I want to be able to plug it into my 7" screen in my truck and watch videos.
Is that even possible?
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Does your truck have a USB in? if it does you can use the tilt as a usb drive using Card Export.
no usb in.
punkhawaiian said:
Does your truck have a USB in? if it does you can use the tilt as a usb drive using Card Export.
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Sir, I need to thank you. Excellent little piece of software! Working perfectly on my laptop, and I can't wait to try this on my car stereo and my flat screen. Damn the iPod in the car! I'll use my phone!
where is the link for card export?
dvn2008 said:
where is the link for card export?
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Google is your friend
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
brynwall said:
Anybody know if there is a cable that can give you video-out for the Tilt?
I want to be able to plug it into my 7" screen in my truck and watch videos.
Is that even possible?
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tilt doesn't support video out ... therefore no video out cable.
the tilt CAN do video out.
witness the celio redfly.
whats on the screen is a video out.
how do they do that?
joihan777 said:
the tilt CAN do video out.
witness the celio redfly.
whats on the screen is a video out.
how do they do that?
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i think its a piece of software. The Redfly works as USB Host and installs a cab on your kaiser (reference MyMobile)
Corpsegrinder said:
Google is your friend
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Not my friend. I've lost both my GF and my dog to Google. Damn you Google!
maybe its a ***** stealer
there both WHOREZ, google is such a slut. it seems there should be some type of software to get video out. be one hell of a coding job thou.
What about http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=120353015876? It is for the Raphael, but uses the same USB proprietary plug... I know that the TyTN II does not have video out, but is it a hardware limitation, or is it a software implimentation thing?
Additionally, what about http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280152731909? That would get you to VGA/composite... then I guess you'd run that as video, then run audio out the head phone port... I think it'd be possible that route easiest, albeit not cheapest... and as I look at it, it may only be good for still slides... like maybe it acts as a "printer port" of sorts, and you 'print' the slide to the device... bummer... I thought I was onto something there...
If you read the description of the second link, the requirement says the pda has to have an sd slot. Kaiser would not work with that solution.
Um, isn't the SD slot the thingy that I put my micro SD in? The description states that it is for a MicroSD slot... and by the picture, that sure it what it looks like...
But every thing I read, the SD Slot gets recognised as a printer device, and you 'print' your documents to the port, and the port compiles the 'pages' into slides to output for you as a slideshow...
However, I think the question with the first post stands most important... is it a software difference in the Raphael, or a hardware difference?
Hardware. The chipset in the Kaiser can technically do video out, but the required circuitry is not implemented.
kilrah said:
Hardware. The chipset in the Kaiser can technically do video out, but the required circuitry is not implemented.
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Wonderful reply, thank you. If I happen across the TyTN II I want to find, I will go hacking at it and see if I can do anything with it...
Does anyone know if we have the SDIO port, or if we just have a standard SD port?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733&view=1
This lists it as SDIO capable.
If the Redfly and MobileMe can both do video out on the Kaiser, then I'm sure you could get the Kaiser to do video out with the right software.
The trouble is, who is going to write the software? The device has basically been discontinued, and the replacement devices all have video out. So unless you happen to come across an awesoem programmer who just happens to have a Kaiser himself, the chances of it ever happening are pretty slim.
I'm not sure if this technically counts as video out, but there's a freeware application called "mymobiler" that installs a service on your winmo device and then outputs a fully functional display of your device on your computer screen via a USB cable. I used it a few times when I was giving presentations of winmo software I was writing on my Tilt and it works well enough, although it might choke on heavy animation.
Overall not something you could just plug into a video-in somewhere, but it might be a start for those who have PC's etc. running with a touchscreen in their dash.
http://www.mymobiler.com/
hello,
i've heard that the universal WOULD support USB host drivers if an unconnected pin inside the universal was connected... could anyone tell me;
- if i manage to get the pin connected, would i get usb host features like on any other usb host phone with proper drivers?
- how hard is it to do?
- WHAT to do?
Oh man,really really nice interesting idea,hope it's true and possible,i hope someone knows all about that and soon writes here how that is possible maaan,would be really awesome to play with that
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Oh man,really really nice interesting idea,hope it's true and possible,i hope someone knows all about that and soon writes here how that is possible maaan,would be really awesome to play with that
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nice to hear someone else would like to get it to work too
EDIT: just found this on another thread on another forum about a PXA270 phone, someone was trying to get it to work, seems like all we need is
- switch the pin to host mode
- a driver (maybe zenos latest ones?)
After about 6 months of not touching this project, I decided to take another quickie look at the PXA270 docs and programmers reference. What I now see is very interesting.
Originally, I was looking at bringing out the USB Host 1 interface pins to the outside world as they were only terminated internally on the motherboard. Only about 1% of users might be able to do that.
I then started to look at the USB OTG (On The Go) interface that this chip supports. The USB OTG interface can be used as both a client and host. It shares the same pins as the Axim's serial port. Unfortuately, there are two serial control lines pins that are not brought out to the connector, so I scrubbed that idea.
This past weekend I picked up the programmer's design reference book to look at how the various USB interfaces are programmed and I saw something that I missed before as this was in the USB Client section. It appears (to me anyways) that the USB Client pins can also be programmed to act as a USB Host when in the USB OTG low power operation mode. The manual discusses how the additional control registers are used along with an output mux and charge-pump circuit (to provide the +5v). Refer to the PXA27x Processor Family Developer's Manual - dated Jan 2006, sections 12.5.2 and 20.
I will be looking at this more closely to see if a simple driver can be written (Afarre, where are you...) to switch the USB client pins into Host mode. In addition to this, the USB device drivers would be needed. Please remember, an additional IO interface circuit will be needed to connect between any USB device and the Axim as the proper voltages are not on the sync connector.
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the_fish said:
nice to hear someone else would like to get it to work too
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Suuuuuuuuuure,every crazy idea to abuse my PPC and i'm in for the quest
PalDragan said:
Suuuuuuuuuure,every crazy idea to abuse my PPC and i'm in for the quest
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haha same, btw thats the link to the topic:
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/140071-hacking-pxa270-internal-usb-host-24.html
Unfortunately, this means it's not for 99% of users as it requires a delicate hardware mod/addition to the motherboard (see my earlier posts & photos in this thread).
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seems like they were still working on the driver (which we already have(?)) so we only need the hardware mod.... i guess...
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haha same, btw thats the link to the topic:
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/140071-hacking-pxa270-internal-usb-host-24.html
seems like they were still working on the driver (which we already have(?)) so we only need the hardware mod.... i guess...
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Ummm it's definately a crazy idea. We were discussing with mamaich (our guru) last year. Unfortunately it's not that simple to provide the power in sync connector, which is acting as a usb client (connector) at the moment.
tomal said:
Ummm it's definately a crazy idea. We were discussing with mamaich (our guru) last year. Unfortunately it's not that simple to provide the power in sync connector, which is acting as a usb client (connector) at the moment.
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did you read in the thread i posted a link to? they had the same problem, but also found out that it maybe is possible to provide the nessecary +5v too, they were not sure tho, and i thought maybe zenos drivers contain the code to do that.
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did you read in the thread i posted a link to? they had the same problem, but also found out that it maybe is possible to provide the nessecary +5v too, they were not sure tho, and i thought maybe zenos drivers contain the code to do that.
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Ok, seems there is a new idea of power injection from outside.
Anybody tried it...?
Couple of months ago, I was trying with outside +5v power but nothing happens
Win_XP said:
Couple of months ago, I was trying with outside +5v power but nothing happens
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did you use one of those special USB cables that have two female USB-A, one for power and the other for the device to plug in?
http://htc-tytn-ii.handster.com/software.php?id=3339&for=HTC+TyTN+II
i don't know anything about this.. i'm actually looking to hook up something that normally has a rs-232 port.. but is also made in usb.. It draws power from another source
with something like that program doesn't that suggest usb host is possible..
http://gnalpgnarf.handster.com/software.php?id=3339&for=gnalpgnarf
hmmm....am I right or am I wrong?
Theoretically speaking the idea with a pin is supposed to redirect power from intake to output, however, not only Uni is incapable of supporting the output (you are essentially attempting to piggyback another device), the external support will not be possible due to pin configuration, regardless of the cable used.
Another thing, other than sheer experimentation, what would be the real point of such USB host?
STOP TORTURING YOUR UNIs, GUYS!!!!
I am pretty sure, that the Universal doesn't support USB Host.
It did not, it does not, it will not.
Sorry guys!
To be honest:
Yes, the PXA270 chip supports USB Host, but in most HTC devices they use this feature already for something else, like: WLAN or 3G connection.
DOMy
seen this?:
http://hhtinker.blogspot.com/2008/10/usb-host-on-treo-650.html
do you know what USB Host already busy?
it used as data call transfer radio <-> CE.
USB hub will not solve this problem easy.
also if you want attach it to miniUSB connector, you need additional OTG chip.
=> Host on universal is very hard to do, ...impossible.
Good news. I found the magic registry hack. With the hack, all that is needed is the original -unmodified- multi-adapter that came with the Touch Pro and a cheap ipod 3.5mm AV cable (i.e., http://www.amazon.com/Macally-Audio-Video-Cable-classic/dp/B000GGQ2ZU).
Simply plug your ipod AV cable into the 3.5mm port on the multi-adapter, plug the adapter in the phone, and set the following registry entry to a value of 1:
\HKLM\Software\HTC\H2W\TVOutCableIn
Immediately after it is modified, the Video Out format selection will pop-up. Select the proper format for your display/TV, and it should immediately show up on the big screen in beautiful color with perfect sound.
When you disconnect the multi-adapter, the value of the registry entry will revert to 0.
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IMPORTANT NOTE: Apparently, not all 3.5 to RCA AV cable have the same pin-out as iPod compatible cables. You must use iPod compatible AV cables or hope that you get lucky with whatever you've got lying around.
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Great Work!!
Off the hook!!! This is gonna be sweet! Thanks for the info!
I'll write a quick lil app to do that should be able to finish it by this eve.... if someone else has done it before me welllll good haha but I'll post it up if not!
Thanks
JFlitt
Just downloaded resco. went into \HKLM\Software\HTC\H2W\TVOutCableIn
Typed 1 inplace of 0. Saved the file The tv out screen comes up but does not display anything on the tv.
Tried 2 differnt cables and 2 tvs as well.
What can i be doing wrong?
Here's the link to the PPCGeeks thread. Someone has created an .exe over there.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=59236
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badal said:
Just downloaded resco. went into \HKLM\Software\HTC\H2W\TVOutCableIn
Typed 1 inplace of 0. Saved the file The tv out screen comes up but does not display anything on the tv.
Tried 2 differnt cables and 2 tvs as well.
What can i be doing wrong?
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Not sure what you are doing wrong. I'm using NTSC format for video out and an ipod AV cable. Are you using a camcorder or ipod AV cable set?
Nevermind i figured it out. It was actually a bad set of cables.
video was coming out of the RED cable instead of the white one.....
Great! hack tho.. you just saved me 25$ for the cable...
I'd rather flip it myself than run the utility...yet another forum to register in
badal said:
Nevermind i figured it out. It was actually a bad set of cables.
video was coming out of the RED cable instead of the white one.....
Great! hack tho.. you just saved me 25$ for the cable...
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It's not a bad cable. It's right for a camcorder but I had the same issue with an ipod too
Just to be certain, is this the cable that is mentioned?
http://www.smartphoneshop.nl/product/57427/52822/3361/htc-multifunction-audio-cable-yc-a300.html
I didn't get this with my MDA Vario.
I think I have one of those cables. I don't think I'll use the VGA out though. I might try it out just for giggles.
Nice finding.
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Just to be certain, is this the cable that is mentioned?
http://www.smartphoneshop.nl/product/57427/52822/3361/htc-multifunction-audio-cable-yc-a300.html
I didn't get this with my MDA Vario.
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That "looks" like the one. Uh...is the Vario a Raphael??
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Here's the link to the PPCGeeks thread. Someone has created an .exe over there.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=59236
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Could anybody post this cab file, for those unregistered users of ppcgeeks forum, thanks.
woaloo said:
Could anybody post this cab file, for those unregistered users of ppcgeeks forum, thanks.
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Here you go. Creds go to techfury90 on ppcgeeks (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/member.php?u=147182)
Worked great with a Canon A/V cable. Red for video. Thanks!
Anyone had an issue with low volume?
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Here you go. Creds go to techfury90 on ppcgeeks (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/member.php?u=147182)
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Thanks a lot! man . I have a Ipod, a sony and and a vosonic, cable and will have a try for all those cables.
thats frickin awesome, and it works like a charm, too!!!
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With the hack, all that is needed is the original -unmodified- multi-adapter that came with the Touch Pro a
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I haven't received my Pro yet, arrives later this week hopefully.
Anyhow, on all the unboxing videos I've seen, I've never spotted them unpacking this adaptor. Here's hoping that it actually does arrive with one.
tzb said:
I haven't received my Pro yet, arrives later this week hopefully.
Anyhow, on all the unboxing videos I've seen, I've never spotted them unpacking this adaptor. Here's hoping that it actually does arrive with one.
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All of the raphaels come with adapters.
I have a odb2 engine monitoring program that i ran on a palm IIIc. The pda crapped out on me the other day. Is anyone willing/able to port this over to work on my HTC Hero?
The program itself has always been free as long as I can recall. The product that you bought was a cable with some sort of module on it so this shouldn't be a warez problem. If it is my apologies.
This is the download link:
http://www.ls1m.com/demo/LS1M_v1.7e.zip
There's an .exe in the zip that you run from the desktop to install to the pda.
This is the website:
http://www.ls1m.com/
I don't even know if it is possible, it would be amazing if it was though. LMK
Thanks!
No one? Don't be scared to tell me it can't be done if that is the case. Is there a better place to ask?
Sent from my Hero running CyanogenMod Stable
I'm guessing that the hardware in the cable does most of the heavy lifting. It looks to be a CAN to RS232 cable so the app would just have to deal with serial communications. Unfortunately, I don't think most androids have any kind of serial connection.
That's how I think it works too. Yes it is a serial cable, i was just hoping to use a serial to usb adaptor, then usb to mini usb cable. I'm a dumb dumb, so I don't know what it would take for android to handle it.
This is just something that I envisioned, I have no idea if it is a practical task or not.
Thanks for the input.
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That's how I think it works too. Yes it is a serial cable, i was just hoping to use a serial to usb adaptor, then usb to mini usb cable. I'm a dumb dumb, so I don't know what it would take for android to handle it.
This is just something that I envisioned, I have no idea if it is a practical task or not.
Thanks for the input.
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As far as I know, the android USB is "device" only. To use it with a RS232 adapter, you'd need a USB "host" device.
I have the solution to your woes. Check out the app called Torque on the market. My favorite app on android period. It can do everything your palm app can 10X. It uses a bluetootb odb2 adapter. They're 26 bucks on ebay. I use the program on my S2000 for datalogging and its a godsend. Buy the paid version, the developer responds to requests and is constantly updating the program.
www.appbrain.com/app/torque/org.prowl.torque
Devs site is torque–bhp.Com
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