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Hi,
Most of these are supposedly taken from the camera in Xperia... They look great for a 3.2 mega-pixel camera...
http://xperiancers.com/images/
Best regards.
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
Hmm... i think you may be right. Their main post led me to believe that most of them were, but i probably interpretted it wrong.
but the picture lineout looks cool with the movements and such
Yes quite cool and it's free to use: tiltViewer
By the way: Here you can find the photo taken with the Xperia X1 in higher resolution: click
Looks very good!
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pre...nia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison-update
Rudegar said:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pre...nia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison-update
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"With the Beta ROM, the house was more yellow then red but now, with the final ROM, the camera quality definitely improved and colors are right now." They say this for the i900... so hopefully we'll see further improvement in Xperia's final ROM.
The Omnia has a pretty decent photo quality for a mobile phone, but to be honest, the X1, Diamond and Touch Pro is really pathetic.
Let's see if the final ROM gives some improvement on this, but my hopes are not very high. (Fortunately, I don't need the camera anyways)
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Looks very good!
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Really?
But he also stated following:
An image shot using the camera on the Xperia X1 at the media preview event on Monday the 15th Sept 08. Bear in mind that this is in very low light, hence the motion blur.
So low light conditions are always difficult and of course especially for an inbuilt mobile phone camera.
foo said:
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
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Why you said that? There is not reason to believe these pictures weren't taken with the X1. Maybe you secretly wished to be bad.
The ones at the bottom OBVIOUSLY, were not. those the original art from Feb 10th 2008. All the others they HAVE text on the reverse but who cares it's just estupid effect of the creators of this viewer that is nice but just annoying. If I want to see a picture or download it I don't need all that tilting.
Well maybe you're right though I don't believe it.
You can also have a look at the flicker stream here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
The naming and the quality of the pictures is very different.
But okay, unfortunately they removed all EXIF otherwise it would have been easy to find out, but so I can only guess by indication.
Much better photos form X1
Lot of good photos taken using X1:-
http://www.wallpaper.com/interiors/london-design-festival-2008/2625
( in the bottom 3 GALLEYS)
The photo quality is better then I would have expected, though it can't compete with a compact camera, it shows a really decent quality for a smartphone.
Very nice
foo said:
The photo quality is better then I would have expected, though it can't compete with a compact camera, it shows a really decent quality for a smartphone.
Very nice
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And a compact camera can not compite the other features of the Xperia.
C'mon... we all know that.
In a positive way, I would compare these great pictures to the Touch Pro. Oranges and Oranges.
I kinda want to see a side by side of the X1 and the K790a/K800i. Judging by the pictures on all the sites the camera on the X1 appears to be far worse than those 2 year old handsets.
Yup, they are worse, worse than most current cameraphones (N95, N82, Innov8, Omnia, many other Sony models). You have to live with that with this phone, but at least they're serviceable enough in decent light conditions.
My camera on my wizard is covered by a skin right now so that goes to show you how much I care about a camera lol.
foo said:
The Omnia has a pretty decent photo quality for a mobile phone, but to be honest, the X1, Diamond and Touch Pro is really pathetic.
Let's see if the final ROM gives some improvement on this, but my hopes are not very high. (Fortunately, I don't need the camera anyways)
Really?
But he also stated following:
An image shot using the camera on the Xperia X1 at the media preview event on Monday the 15th Sept 08. Bear in mind that this is in very low light, hence the motion blur.
So low light conditions are always difficult and of course especially for an inbuilt mobile phone camera.
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I was comparing that with the Kaiser
foo said:
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
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does x1 have got cam
cihanleanne said:
does x1 have got cam
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That thread is from 2008.
And yes, the x1 has cam (1 front. 1 back)
hi all ive just contacted HTC uk line and asked about the camera issues with the pink/red tint in the midldle of the pictures and it seems that HTC expect a fair amount of people to complain before they will look at it, the person i spoke to took a htc hd2 out and tested it and she stated she had the same issue but untill enough people ring and complain its a bust
so if u want the camera sorted then look here and call to complain
http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
p.s. do u think the camera issue is software or hardware related
Is there a white balance manual adjustment anywhere? Haven't received my phone yet so can't check. I'm not talking about preset modes like "sunny", "couldy" and the likes, but somewhere where the colour temperature can be manually set? I'm a photographer btw
Edit: saw the other thread about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584675&highlight=pictures with pictures! Could have something to do with metering modes cos this looks like it's getting the white balance wrong on some kind of spot or centre metering mode. Is there an "average" metering mode at all? Might be worth a try.
hi theirs no color temperature settings but their are three metering modes
-touch focus (spot)
-center area
-average
some tests of white/cream door:- autowhitebalance setting, super fine, everything else default, no flash
-------------spot----------------center area----------------average-------
some tests of stuff mag:- auto whitebalance setting, super fine, everything else default, no flash
-------------spot----------------center area----------------average-------
some tests of stuff mag:- indoor whitebalance setting, super fine, everything else default, no flash
-------------spot----------------center area----------------average-------
some tests of stuff mag closeup:-indoor whitebalance setting, super fine, everything else default, no flash
-------------spot----------------center area----------------average-------
if u have the time to change the settings depending on the lighting environment ur in, i.e. using the auto lighting setting gives red tints but with the indoor lighting settings its seems alot better dont u think, BUT its still visable
ouch, that white spot with the magenta halo thing is really bad. I'm kinda stumped on that one, especially as I can't have a play with it (and have no idea when I'll get mine!) I don't suppose you have an 18% neutral gray card lurking around you could take pictures of lol at least that'd give me a reference point. Sunny or cloudy settings might improve the overall appearance in daylight conditions rather than using the auto wb but it's never going to get rid of that much imbalance, even the left and right sides are different tones. While I'd never expect a picture from phone camera to be great, I'd certainly expect something better than that!
Isadora said:
ouch, that white spot with the magenta halo thing is really bad. I'm kinda stumped on that one, especially as I can't have a play with it (and have no idea when I'll get mine!) I don't suppose you have an 18% neutral gray card lurking around you could take pictures of lol at least that'd give me a reference point. Sunny or cloudy settings might improve the overall appearance in daylight conditions rather than using the auto wb but it's never going to get rid of that much imbalance, even the left and right sides are different tones. While I'd never expect a picture from phone camera to be great, I'd certainly expect something better than that!
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emm what is this "18% neutral gray card"
DAMIEN123_666 said:
emm what is this "18% neutral gray card"
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It is exactly what it says lol - a bit of card that's "officially" neutral grey - that's what we use to meter off to get the correct white balance in any lighting conditions.
A friend of mine should receive his phone before the end of the week, if he does I'll see if I can do some testing on the camera in daylight with a grey card and will let you know, of course
have you try to adjust white blance? Do not use auto model and choose something else. That may reduce the tint in the central area.
DAMIEN123_666 said:
if u have the time to change the settings depending on the lighting environment ur in, i.e. using the auto lighting setting gives red tints but with the indoor lighting settings its seems alot better dont u think, BUT its still visable
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yep the indoor setting for indoor shots is much better so at least it's doing *something* nearly right lol - auto settings are rarely good anyway but they should manage better than that.
I personally think this can be fixed with a ROM because if you read the 4winmobile.com review and look at the pictures they took in the main review with a pre release ROM the pink spot is very noticable
Then scroll down to the updated pics taken with a Retail O2 ROM and the spot doesnt seem to be there.
I dont have a HD2 yet, but when I do and if its has the pink spot I will be ringing up, as I suggest anyone else who has it does too
have you try to adjust white blance? Do not use auto model and choose something else. That may reduce the tint in the central area.
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when i say indoor light setting or auto light setting i ment to say " indoor whitebalance setting or auto whitebalance setting"
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I've got the English retail HD2 and there is NO tint.
All the pictures I've taken with my HD2 are great so far.
i have the english retail version too, please post ur device info, i.e. rom version and other info on the spec settings page
ROM version
1.43.405.1 (70124) WWE
ROM date
10/26/09
Radio version
2.04.50.22_2
Now I looked again and there is a bit of a tint but almost not noticeable, if you don't know about it. Might be an issue with all HDs but frankly, I don't care too much, because it takes great pictures nonetheless.
The folks from GSMARENA.COM have posted their full review of the HD2. it seems that they've encountered the same phenomenon as described here - pinkish color cast towards the center of the frame, especially noticeable when viewing the thumbnails.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_htd2-review-418p9.php
maati said:
ROM version
1.43.405.1 (70124) WWE
ROM date
10/26/09
Radio version
2.04.50.22_2
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same on my device matey
maati said:
ROM version
1.43.405.1 (70124) WWE
ROM date
10/26/09
Radio version
2.04.50.22_2
Now I looked again and there is a bit of a tint but almost not noticeable, if you don't know about it. Might be an issue with all HDs but frankly, I don't care too much, because it takes great pictures nonetheless.
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Exactly the same here - ROM and results. Several test photos both of plain surfaces (wall/paper/sky) and general photos and there might be the *slightest* tint to one or two if you look at them funny. Certainly there's nothing even remotely like the disaster pics posted here and elsewhere, thankfully.
If it is a ROM issue, it seems this is a solid working ROM.
Hi all,
I reported this issue to HTC and sent them some sample photos. I received the following reply within several minutes:
Dear Mr Bale,
We are aware of this issue at HTC and are currently looking into it.
Apologies for any inconvienience caused.
Best Regards,
HTC Technical Support.
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Colour tint issue
The halo of different colours would suggest chromatic abberation, which is hardware(lens) based so no fix possible.
Chromatic abberation normally shows up as fringing around contrasty edges (so could be anywhere in the picture depending on what you're shooting) not a massive magenta blob consistently in the middle of every single picture!
It's not C.A. you can notice this phenomenon with normal DSLR Cameras, which have exposed the sensor for long periods, and some parts of it being heated.
example - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2560/3670598368_1cc6f5f72e.jpg
Checkout the upper left corner.
whether the sensor is defective, or its mounting process causes this - I expect HTC to handle this problem by replacing the affected units.
I'm sure like me, many people here have installed the camera hotfix by now. is anyone else's flash super bright now after the second flash? taking pictures in the dark is near impossible now. all I get is a white blob of what should be the person I'm taking a picture of lol...
Yes mine is now super bright Ive not been able to tome it down yet
This problem has been discussed before on this forum (try searching for it) and has been a problem even before the hotfix. Looks like HTC will need to come out with a second hotfix.
Well, for me the hotfix worked realy well, and the flash now is better then ever.
RRibeiro said:
Well, for me the hotfix worked realy well, and the flash now is better then ever.
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Try to take a picture of something close to you. Or in a dark environment, take a picture of a person sitting right across the table from you.
Yes, using flash on close-in objects is useless. All you get is a bright picture. This ain't good.
Here is a picture I just made with my HD2.
It was takem 20cm away with flash on.
EDIT: Sorry, my mistake. Now it's the photo with flash.
RRibeiro
Is that picture with the lights on or off?
Problem happens with flash on in dark environments.
Still it's not a good picture. Look at the bottom of the picture, not good. There's room for improvement IMO.
Not just in dark environments, see attached pictures of HTC Official Online Store discount card (for scale, it's about the size of a credit card) taken at my office (with rather bright ambient light).
I installed the hotfix and I'm loving the camera now. Better color, better overall image. And the strange hue is gone. Also tested the flash, it's not the best flash ever of course, but coming from a no-flash at all (HD), I'm satisfied enough. It does the job fine.
try taking a photo of yourself at arms length
you'll be blind for a bit, plus the photo will be way too bright
totally agree...the hot-fix has now ruined all close up flash photographs as it just burns out to a bright white blob. Very poor.
(and in doing so they only managed to reduce, not eliminate the pink blob without the flash)
double post due to Bad Gateway...
I don't see anything that was "ruined" by the hotfix, it was the same without it.
Response From [ Amany (South East EU Support (Tech)) ]
Thank you for contacting us,
Regarding your enquiry, kindly follow the steps below:
Start>Settings>System>Remove Programs
Please remove the update you have installed and check the performance of the device. Kindly install the update once again.
Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
you'll find a toll free number that you can dial only from a landline.
Best Regards,
HTC Team
Working for me.
Fixed the bright flash issue... i just dont know how??
If this is a little late and the issue has already been addressed, then my apologies.
Anyway, Yesterday, i was becoming very annoyed with the sudden increase in flash power since the pink blob hotfix, so i started looking at what the problem might be.
Firstly it appeared that the problem was that the timing was slightly wrong with regards to the exposure. So i looked through all the settings and started switching features on and off in the hope that there might be an action that delayed the exposure long enough to get a good reading.
Basically this became boring very quickly as i was not getting any change in the result but while my attention lagged in the task, i must have made the essential change.
Now the flash works exactly as it did before the Hotfix!
Now the question is: who else still has this problem and would you be willing to try adjusting all the settings to achieve the same result... but this time with more attention to detail than i had.
As far as i can remember the setting i had adjusted were Shutter sound "ON" and wide-screen "ON", then went back and turned them off again.
Its a long shot, but something made it work.
For me, the flash is still too much bright. I have to disable it. And the HTC update didn't solve the pink blur at all. And i don't talk about the JPEG compression which is awful.
Well this camera is just a disaster ...
Lucius Snow said:
For me, the flash is still too much bright. I have to disable it. And the HTC update didn't solve the pink blur at all. And i don't talk about the JPEG compression which is awful.
Well this camera is just a disaster ...
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Agree about the flash power... only way for a hotfix to address that issue would be to decrease the duration of the flash when it fires.
Disagree about the camera being a disaster overall... with the hotfix and the settings tweaked (contrast +4, sat +3, sharpness +4), the HD2 camera takes pics that are pretty-much identical in overall quality to my Nokia N95 8GB.
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Agree about the flash power... only way for a hotfix to address that issue would be to decrease the duration of the flash when it fires.
Disagree about the camera being a disaster overall... with the hotfix and the settings tweaked (contrast +4, sat +3, sharpness +4), the HD2 camera takes pics that are pretty-much identical in overall quality to my Nokia N95 8GB.
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Compared to my previous phones (Asus P525 and P750), the quality is very bad when you look the picture at 100% of the real size. All JPEG artefacts are hudge. I prefer a medium resolution and good JPEG compression than high resolution and bad JPEG compression.
Is it not that good, or is it just me?
Everytime I take a picture, the camera freezes when saving the picture,
Problem is.. the "frozen" image, is slighly before the actual image which is saved..
Most of my picture so far, are blurred...
Id sort of expected that this camera was lighting fast, but so far it dosent seem so....
On the other hand.. My hands are constantly shaking, and that dosent help much.
So anyone here with steady hands, who takes great pictures, and its just me whos a bad photographer?
I could post on saturday. since the stores are closed aswell as the postal office now in the easter. and I won't be home again untill friday.
But I could post some so that we could compare when I got the phone in my hands.
ukon said:
I could post on saturday. since the stores are closed aswell as the postal office now in the easter. and I won't be home again untill friday.
But I could post some so that we could compare when I got the phone in my hands.
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Lets do, Ill be here all week
TakenName said:
Lets do, Ill be here all week
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I am really interested in how the picture quality will be compared to the X1 and the Magic. If it is anything like either of them, then I hope the Magic.
It is such a shame that I can't get it now, when it is in the mail. but I am just to far away from home at the moment :/
it really sucks tho
Tip for non blurry pictures, use touch focus mode - works very good here.
Seems to focus better and you don't risk rocking the phone because you press the camera key.
Otherwise it's as with all mobile phone cams, the sensors and optics are limited by size, so of course you get better pictures the more light you have.
I find the camera very nice in comparison to my N1.
My pictures turn out just fine. maybe a blurry one once in a while but nothing to complain about. Try turning on the image stabilizer
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My pictures turn out just fine. maybe a blurry one once in a while but nothing to complain about. Try turning on the image stabilizer
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Image stabilizer!!!! Why didnt I think of that while checking in the settings....
Not the pictures are actually good... Strange thing now, when I click to take the picture, it freezes with a blurry image, but the actual picture is great!
here is some pictures that I've taken today can be found here.
I might upload some other pictures later. but we will see.
I do not think that it is that bad, it is better than the X1 camera, and I do think that the picture quality was slightly better than the Magic camera aswell.
The only thing that I can complain about with this phone would be the battery I guess.. It could have been better. but I tought the same thing about my x1 in the beginning, but now does it last 2 days some times.
2-3 hours when I am teethering the network and downlading with torrent on it tho... but that is things that takes alot of battery.
mine freezes with a blurry image aswell. not sure about the actual quality since ive only seen them on the phone itself.
ive got another question tho, does your camera in macro mode make noise when pressing the button halfway(focusing) its like a loud click, very mechanic sounding?
id say the x2 had a much better camera so far
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mine freezes with a blurry image aswell. not sure about the actual quality since ive only seen them on the phone itself.
ive got another question tho, does your camera in macro mode make noise when pressing the button halfway(focusing) its like a loud click, very mechanic sounding?
id say the x2 had a much better camera so far
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The loud click is from the autofocus and it is normal!
allright coming from an iphone without autofocus so i didnt know that, cant remember the x2 i had for a week having that sound though.
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allright coming from an iphone without autofocus so i didnt know that, cant remember the x2 i had for a week having that sound though.
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My X1 has the same clicking noise. It's just not that loud. But hey, it's not the same camera either.
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hi . i juz bought an x10, howevr i am a little worried about its FLASH. is it necessary to swtich on the photo light and click pics? if not then from where do i change the flash settings
charbiwala said:
hi . i juz bought an x10, howevr i am a little worried about its FLASH. is it necessary to swtich on the photo light and click pics? if not then from where do i change the flash settings
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Yeah. You have to turn on the LED in settings before it's usable. I've read that it's a limitation in 1.6 but I don't know really. Seems to work great on HTC Legend with 2.1 though.
Yeah, what is the flash like on the x10? Is there a flash????
theres no flash, only a constant light that will blind you!
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theres no flash, only a constant light that will blind you!
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Yeah, that's true. But I've never really felt the need for a good LED flash, i just use it as a flashlight.
How would you rate the camera then?
dubdec99 said:
How would you rate the camera then?
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I thought the camera in the X1 was pretty good actually but the one in the X10 is insanely great! The image stabilizer is just GREAT! I don't know how I could live without it with my X1! The image quality is great too!
For anyone interested in photo samples from the X10, check this thread from the Esato.com forums:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=195111&watch=topic&start=15
hello guys i want the best Camera Configuration ( macro or single or infinity ......)
because really my camera suckss my xperia was .14 and i debrand it to .16 but my camera is very bad !!!!!
Or the problem is with the photographer
I saw on Esato some amazing pictures taken with X10.
cant complain here ... best pic ever with that phone .. and fastet ever seen readjusting from light to dark places ... the only thing i dont like is the autofocus .. it cant focus to close to an object ( that is 3 - 5 cm away from the camera lense like my x10) but since i rarly do that i dont care
ok noblack can u tell me ur config.
I've found using the camera on Touch Capture, 8mp, Normal scene, Centre metering, Auto white-balance gives me the best pictures.
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my pictures are just awful! i'm really hoping this is a softwer issue, i have a prototype so i'm running an old 007 apposed to 016 which is the newest afaik
sample 1 sample 2 sample 3
btw. can this be cleared with photoshop? it's just silly to have an 8mpx camera and have this bad pictures!
i'm using 6mpx wide screen rezolution, everything else on auto/single focus
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my pictures are just awful! i'm really hoping this is a softwer issue, i have a prototype so i'm running an old 007 apposed to 016 which is the newest afaik
sample 1 sample 2 sample 3
btw. can this be cleared with photoshop? it's just silly to have an 8mpx camera and have this bad pictures!
i'm using 6mpx wide screen rezolution, everything else on auto/single focus
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pretty sure it's the firmware of ur phone that's giving out crap picture. i didn't even bother changing the setting on the camera and the pic comes out just fine. it does pretty amazing in dark places too for a phone
what si ur firmware ?
firmware version 1.6
baseband version R1DA007
i have
firmware version 1.6
baseband version R1FA016
what is the different !!!!
yours is newer
I think the problem is your phone.
Try using EV -1 here has improved 50%
-1 EV is too much...
I think -7 is better and also, for better results is a photoshop app on the market.
A bit +contrast and saturation and everything is ok.
My images are a bit ... washed so, -7 EV + contrast makes them a bit better.
I'm not happy either with the quality compared with what picture i saw on esato.
Astral07 said:
my pictures are just awful! i'm really hoping this is a softwer issue, i have a prototype so i'm running an old 007 apposed to 016 which is the newest afaik
sample 1 sample 2 sample 3
btw. can this be cleared with photoshop? it's just silly to have an 8mpx camera and have this bad pictures!
i'm using 6mpx wide screen rezolution, everything else on auto/single focus
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You are right, those look awful. There's clearly something wrong there, but you already knew that. You should return the phone if you can't get it any better than this.
this are mine !!!!
http://i42.tinypic.com/34qoj5y.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/9i5xyq.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/166yovs.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/10miutc.jpg
!!!!!!
Cinner said:
You are right, those look awful. There's clearly something wrong there, but you already knew that. You should return the phone if you can't get it any better than this.
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i would but since i got it fairly cheap and 2 months ago when no x10 were out yet...i don't have any return policy for it, nor a bill of any kind so i'm pretty much stuck with it
figofigo said:
this are mine !!!!
http://i42.tinypic.com/34qoj5y.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/9i5xyq.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/166yovs.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/10miutc.jpg
!!!!!!
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Those are pretty bad as well, make sure the sun is at your back and lower the ev to -.7
figofigo said:
this are mine !!!!
http://i42.tinypic.com/34qoj5y.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/9i5xyq.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/166yovs.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/10miutc.jpg
!!!!!!
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Also you might want to turn on the image stabilization
And yes, be careful with the sun.